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I was on staff when kids of salt lake became lifeline. There were several reasons but some of the main ones were that the parents wanted to adopt morman religous ethics, disliked the swearing, did not want to be told what to do by 18 year old staff members and they didn't like Miller interfering with their lifestyles. They may have also changed the length of treatment. I believe the parents basically ran the program - the director put in charge was very influenced by the opinions of others. This was over 10 years ago and I only have knowledge of the transition stage so it may have changed over time. You should be concerned but I wouldn't act until you find out the facts. Good luck.

Here is Marc Rosenbergs address and phone#
368 Range Rd
Cumberland Center, ME
04021

207 829 2861

I definitely would've come to Florida for this.  I did 6 months in the Marietta, Ga facility back in 83.

i am wondering if anyone knows gianni, who was in elan in about 1993.. i want to know how he is doing now, we used to be very close.

Hello, I am very pleased to find this web site. I though I was the only one still having nightmares. I ran away from the program when I was 19 years old, I am almost 25 now. I live a great up and down normal life. I am proud to say I am everything they told me I was not going to be. I still struggle at times with all the rage I have towards that s.o.b., but he will get his. I regret that I was a part of that sick ?Tough Love? at times. I feel like such a jerk that I believed that would help, even though at times I knew in my heart it was wrong. I have always wondered what has happened to you all. There is also people I would love to talk to i.e. Tricia, Jennifer, Pam. Erin, Serena, Lulu, Heather, Paula, Diana, and many more. These are the ones that jump into my mind. I hope you all are doing great and accomplishing your dreams. We do not have to let  anyone take any more away from us. I also realize that I did need some help when I was 14yrs old but not like that and not for how long. I know a lot of us did not even have the problems they said we did  and some did. I believe a lot of us were just lost. I also know that some of this is still going on. There is a secret little piece of the program still in progress somewhere  in N.J. I know this because my sister just came out. She is the last of the three of us we are all backing together now  stronger then ever. Well  I will leave it at that . there is just so much that I want to say .  I hope to hear from you guys . take care.      Jessica C.

I've just started constructing a computer security related site mainly focused on protection against hacker activity.

I would like to make this community grow and it'd be great to hear your ideas and suggestions.

The current URL is http://tiac.0catch.com
(sorry about the crap hosting, I'm currently applying for a *.com.nz* domain)

Thanks

Hi everyone.  I am Scott Wagner over here in Philly.  I was in the Springfiled Straight in the early 80s.  It would be great to get together with some of you folks who are still in the area.  Drop me a line at [email protected]

I stumbled on this website after doing a I-net search on Art Barker.  I have to agree with everyone who has posted horror stories about the Seed. I first went in to the seed in '73 at the time they were at the old tropical race track in Miami. They closed the race track facility and I wound up at the old warehouse on state road 84.

I was only 14 when I went in and was a little guy, around 5'0" tall, I wound up being in there for 13 months on a 5 month program. While I was in there I was physically beaten and mentally tortured. The place was an absolute joke and a fraud. The sad part is that the fraud was played on our parents and we were the victims. The scars will always be there.

It took me a number of years to achieve some degree of normalcy in my life. I can remember seeing a documentary on that Straight Inc program many years ago and having nightmares for about a month afterwards. That is what I ean about the scars always being there.

I have been an attorney for about 9 years and on many occassions, on my way to the Broward Courthouse,  I have drove by the andrews avenue facility, and get pissed when I see the sign.  If I knew the law back then I would own Art Barker forever. Any decent lawyer would wipe that piece of crap out. He and his wife Shelly, that piece of trash Libby, John Underwood and others are lower than the slime at the bottom of a sewer.

Anyhow I am glad to see a website like this and I wish everybody that has survived the seed, straight inc or anything else like it the very best.