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AARC's laws.
The thing is that I WAS illegally held. I was told that until I reached the age of 16 I couldnt' sign out and they had the right to keep me, but I learned later that it was bullshit. AARC's been doing that to kids for about a decade now, and it's an absolute complete lie, and the government knows because they're the ones that told me. One girl had a lawyer already, and he came to the center, found her and got her out. For the rest of us, most don't even know that they aren't legally aloud to be restrained and kept from leaving. The problem is finding a lawyer to represt us, when everyone is to scared to touch it.


                       Elle.


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Crossing Boarders
My parents were able to kidnap me and take me over a boarder. Turns out it's quite easy! Seems to me unless you're Drew Barrymore or Brittney Spears, you are unimportant when under 21. Rights? What are those? Go to your room.


                  Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / WInston Churchill on "Sobriety"
« on: July 02, 2001, 12:44:39 AM »
Parents
Does anyone have parents who have "seen the light" yet? because I'm wondering if it's just me, or if anyone has seen a parent figure out that they were programmed. Most parents I know have said "I don't agree with everything that went on" or "Sometimes they pushed things too far and I don't undrstand why" but none of them have outwardly accepted that the whole thing was fucked.


                       Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / WInston Churchill on "Sobriety"
« on: July 01, 2001, 09:26:13 PM »
Parents making me sick to my stomach
My mother and I watched a program (20/20?) a long time ago about a behavioral rehabilitation program on some tropical island. When investigated, boys were found locked in closets where they'd spent days, completely bound with duck tape over their mouths. Everyone was ill, everyone had scabes and every other bug that layed eggs in your skin there. No one was allowed an identitiy fo their own, they all wore raps and no shoes. I asked my mother "can you believe it?" and she said "Sometimes you have to go to great lengths to save a kids life." As we argued I realized for the first time that there was no form of abuse harsh enough to make her see that something wrong is happening in these centers. She is so programmed, that if I had been murdered in rehab she would believe it was for the right reasons.

          Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / WInston Churchill on "Sobriety"
« on: July 02, 2001, 12:44:39 AM »
Parents
Does anyone have parents who have "seen the light" yet? because I'm wondering if it's just me, or if anyone has seen a parent figure out that they were programmed. Most parents I know have said "I don't agree with everything that went on" or "Sometimes they pushed things too far and I don't undrstand why" but none of them have outwardly accepted that the whole thing was fucked.


                       Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / WInston Churchill on "Sobriety"
« on: July 01, 2001, 09:26:13 PM »
Parents making me sick to my stomach
My mother and I watched a program (20/20?) a long time ago about a behavioral rehabilitation program on some tropical island. When investigated, boys were found locked in closets where they'd spent days, completely bound with duck tape over their mouths. Everyone was ill, everyone had scabes and every other bug that layed eggs in your skin there. No one was allowed an identitiy fo their own, they all wore raps and no shoes. I asked my mother "can you believe it?" and she said "Sometimes you have to go to great lengths to save a kids life." As we argued I realized for the first time that there was no form of abuse harsh enough to make her see that something wrong is happening in these centers. She is so programmed, that if I had been murdered in rehab she would believe it was for the right reasons.

          Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I'm back (kinda)
« on: July 01, 2001, 08:39:52 PM »
DM
Hey, we've never met but nice to see you. I go in and out of feeling like they've ruined my life, to forgetting how much they affected it in the first place. All I'd like to say to you is hunny, never let them get in between you and Depeche Mode : ) I was very happy when I saw them, and many other bands I was banned from listening too afterwards. I had a little panick attack once but am glad I made it there anyways. Every time they scare you out of doing something that matters to you they win again, so walk through it. Go on meds if you need too, but (easier said than done) keep moving ahead like nothing ever inturrupted your path. I hope that the pain eases for you.


                            Enjoy the Silence,

                                          Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / AARC
« on: June 01, 2001, 06:52:22 PM »
AARC
Yup. Up running, and growing. They've recieved more positive media attention (from Dateline to covering papers across Canada) than they have negative. However, if you go to the clagary Harold's site, all you'll find is a couple of articles about one of the parents painting a cow for fundraising. I'm guessing that either Alberta is sick of talking about it, or feeling a little more uneasy about it now. Some of the articles I've read were so insane that they made me sick. Like, how the zero club is about having your best friends surround you until you feel loved enough to go on without them. Hmmm. Not what I remember.


                                      Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / AARC
« on: June 01, 2001, 11:54:23 PM »
AARC
Well, I've spent plenty of time in many provinces, so let me tell you about the drugs in Canada from what it seems like on the streets.


First of all it varies from province to province. None have decriminalized any drug, except for medical MJ, which is allowed but kept quiet. On the ohter hand, some cities feel like Amsterdam. There is usually a handful of arrests on major ealers, often MJ, once per year. The rest of the year everyone is safe, now that the police have bettered their reputation. In Vancouver there's been a long time running crack house across the street from a police station. There are line ups around the block to get in, and pimps around the block handing out free crack if you buy one of their girls! In Van you can shoot up, or smoke up in the open and you will be allowed, but technically it is iligal. It's basically a known fact that the police have decided to let it go on, but go on saying "we're doing all we can to keep drug crimes down".

My experience is that Hells Angels control most of the major dealing, and Canada is terrified of them.


There are "tough love" programs around Canada, but I don't know the place that you are speaking of. I've heard some other names that are questionable, but I haven't experienced them myself. Certain area's of Canada are really desperate now, and any ol' treatment program will do, cult or no cult.


And yes, Canadians, we are your backbone. We save your ass year after year, and all you do is watch our sports and call us Canucks. I don't mind. Means less gun bearing Americans will come here : ) Both countries have their goods, so I can't pee on either of them.


Does anyone have a program for the conference? That way if I was to write something, I would know if it fits in or not. Topic suggestion?


                                 Take care,

                                             Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / AARC
« on: June 01, 2001, 03:25:41 PM »
AARC
Hi everyone, W. Fagar told me about this list and suggested I introduce myself. I'm a "graduate" of AARC (Alberta Adolecent Recovery Center located in Calgary) and am told that some others have come here from it. I'm pretty scared about talking about it, but I'm sure it's something you've all been through. AARCville's a small world where everyone has their eyes on you all the time and they're ears open, so I feel as if they're reading this post in Open Meeting right now. Which come to think of it, they probably would do!


I've stumbled upon these pages and can't tell you how relieved I am to find them. I'd love to make it to the conference, but because of money I'm sure I won't be able too. I am however good at letter writing, and if any speaker would be willing to be a muse and read a letter about AARC at the conference, I would be glad to contribute.


Nice to meet every one of you.


                                           Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / i'm still here
« on: June 02, 2001, 02:23:21 AM »
music
There was no singing in aarc, actually those of us who sang before weren't aloud to do it then because it was our "escape mechanism". Of course, happiness is terrible.


Some of us were aloud to listen to music on level 3 when newcomers weren't around, but some of us listened to "wierd" music, or enjoyed music too much to be allowed CD's. We sort of were punished over things like that. Certianly if I was caught listening to something from "my past" I would be set back a couple of weeks. My mother cried when she heard me listening "alternative" music as a graduate, and wouldn't let me leave the house for a week. She seemed to think that the music was going to kill me, and I'd drop dead the minute I left the house.


Oh and yeah, it was Survivor who sang that. Ironic, because their careers didn't last too long did they?


                                       Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / i'm still here
« on: June 01, 2001, 11:54:01 PM »
Sounds of the redneck
Terrible music! In the beginning there was lots of Garth Brooks, Bruce Springstien, Dire Straights, and Supertramp. We were even told that if we didn't like Country music by the time we were on oldcomer we were not aloud to graduate.


After open meeting everyone would hold hands for a prayer while something corny like "I will always love you" played. Staff tried to think of a song that resembled who they were going to target in the rap, so the first song to play was always scary. Everyone would be thinking "Oh god, I've got friends in low places, maybe I'm going to be blasted..." It was rediculous.


The music is better these days, now it just has to be "AARC approved" like Sarah Mclaughlan who's "Angel" they play whenever media or possible donator's are around.


Sorry if you like Garth Brooks and Supertramp : )


                                        Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / i'm still here
« on: June 01, 2001, 07:10:17 PM »
A clockwork straight
I actually just rented the movie again last night! In AARC a song was played before and after every rap. Did Kids and The Straights do that too? Because you know, all the music I heard for those raps do make me sick now, and I can't even be in a store that might be playing them.


Alex's ultra violence scenes made more sense in the end of the film, to the point where I was deffinately on his side. I wouldn't be in real life, but I was relating to the transition of being someone odd and crazy, but living free will, to being contained, controlled, and knocked down to the point where the public humiliation is just a necessary task to try to get out and be yourself again. And then I don't know about the rest of you, but my after aarc life has seemed a bit like one hit after another like what Alex got.


Then again....I saw Cast Away and cried because it reminded me of all these things too....Well, either way they were both really good!


                                    Elle.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Ginger?
« on: August 02, 2001, 12:16:07 AM »
I just went to Anonimity Anonomous, and there didn't seem to be a "Contact me" link. I know Ginger Warbis comes around here from time to time. There are very little links about AARC (Kids spin off) and I was hoping I could ask her to post something on Dean Vuase in the crack pot section! I have articles explaining what's known of his history and pics if needed.


You can mail me at [email protected]


                                                       Elle.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Numbers
« on: August 01, 2001, 09:55:39 PM »
Graduates
Was anyone here ever a part of one of the locations around the time it was being shut down for good? Because I know that most bragged about how many graduates they had.


Face Khan, where did you hear that estimate?


                                                 Elle.


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