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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: DannyB II on August 21, 2011, 08:04:42 PM
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One of our admins here Kelly Matthews is a member of The Reddit Trouble Teen Group, she is also the owner/admin of the TTI Site http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/ (http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/) that asked me to adopt a different user name Quagmire, then turned around and leaked the information.
That group really has two of the biggest distractions there, Pixal and Kelly. Neither are survivors and both have enough influence to sway other survivors to choose over one another. How in fucking gods name did Pixal get Reddit to give her a group in their name is beyond me. Then turn around and use it to discriminate against survivors. This message will be a point I will be raising in the near future because a group such as this is not helping children or their parents at all.
Pixal decided it was her job to get involved in a fight between Elan survivors, I'm sure based upon Matt's stories and Wayne's book.
Matt Hoffman is just as silly and desperately lonely as he ever was. Constantly seeking attention from anyone who will listen about how Danny attacked him. Matt at some point you really need to get some new material.
Felice, well we all know her. She created a whole new alias for me again, Matty is all to happy to endorse it.
Kim M. is just as much a (I run my mouth before I think idiot) as ever.
Hey, I am so happy all you Straight folks found another group to carry on your tradition of bashing me, you even got Aaron and a few Elanians to sit by and watch me get my ass kicked and say nothing.
Matt Hoffman was outed by me concerning a horrific incident that happened while we were at Elan. Did I actually witness this no but shortly afterwards the other person involved was at the facility I was at. Matt became extremely angry and embarrassed when I revealed this situation. What Matt has failed to tell everyone as usual is his part in the whole fight. I have found that many here and on the Reddit group don't care either why I did what I did or that I have been harassed. I have witnessed that because I was staff that I am held to a different abusive standard. You can do whatever you want to me but OMG if I retaliate.
I wanted people to see once again Matt, Felice and Kim M. in there full glory disrespecting another group. As you can see they don't fucking care about the kids or their parents, Matt has given more lip service to this industry then a whore on a busy Vegas Saturday nite. Ya know what Matt, Felice and Kim M, if you 3 took all the energy you put into talking about me and stalking me from site to site and put it into helping children, jeesh, I think more programs would be closed.
What is truly sad is you 3 have been around longer then anybody and all 3 of you act like selfish self centered jerks, grow up.
Kelly and Pixal fair warning people are watching. Pixal don't tarnish the Reddit name, act like you belong there for christ sakes.
I am pulling two comments out of this dribble to high-lite, first is Kim stating I threatened her with physical violence and I knew where she lived. Here is her comment:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/185627381482928/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/185627381482928/)
Kim Morello states: ?Felice Debra Eliscu, I'm really sorry. As Matt Hoffman said, he was a complete asshole to me on Fornits, to the point where I DID get scared and he made actual threats to me...said he knew where I lived and was in the next town over and would "beat my ass". Document everything!! PM me if you need any help. Best of luck!!!
Ok my response, first I have never threaten anyone let alone a woman. I am all over this internet as others stating I am going to kick your ass (meaning in this debate or argument) she knew exactly what I meant because she continued for months on to engage me. Now as far as knowing where she lived. Well Kim supplied that information along with a pic of her ass in a thong on a boat (her boat) with her registration number in full view. Well anyone could check out the registration number and then find her address. No I did not and could care less about where this douche Kim lives.
Now in order to know who I am talking about she will have to provide you with her alias here. I can't do that.
This is to specifically to Kim Morelli -
Would you please document with posts here (I mean plenty of you have copied my posts and you told Kelly Matthews you had emails from me) where I said that I was going to come over to your town/house in Tampa Fla. and beat your ass. See Kim it is one thing to run your mouth on a group where I can't defend myself on and another to have to come back to the site you are saying it happened on and prove it. What a freaking douche.
Second Matt is doing the same thing
http://www.facebook.com/groups/185627381482928/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/185627381482928/)
Matt states: now I consider words at the top of this post under meet Diablo to be a threat ....what am I saying it was a threat .and it was uttered by bennison to me and really I should have taken it to the police cause when I read now it still sounds like he was going to come to my house with a large group of men and the were going to have a beat down on me ....as for the phonecall it never happened , Mark posted that cause asked him to because bennison had convinced me that all he was at elan wasvthe delivery driver for joe and he knew the inner working of that place , and it was a lot earlier when I first believed bennison and .Mark posted that because he respected my wishes and he knew bennison was up to something and lo and behold benniso nposted his first manifesto (the Assistant director of elan ) manifesto where he went off on what he did as an employee druing his 22 months that he worked at elan . bennison posted this manifesto on the staff section of the I went to the elan school back in March of 2010.
August 15 at 8:20pm
Matt Hoffman is a consummate liar and will go to any length to get his point across. Especially when he feels he has a audience.
OK now about the comment I wrote to Matt concerning AA people coming to Richmond Va. During the time this comment was made AA was being discussed on fornits and Matt was in his usual abusive attitude stalking me around fornits and commenting on everything I was saying. Naturally in a very derogatory manner. I used to be in AA and still feel it helps folks up until a point. Well to be funny, sarcastic or weird how ever you want to look at it, I made a comment that I was coming to Virginia Richmond March with 250/450 I don't remember exactly, to a Mens Recovery Weekend. I mentioned while there we would come over and corral him and bring him to the meeting.
I or nobody else mentioned beat down or any violence. He was being negative towards AA in a "pain in the ass" kind of way (only Matt knows how to be a pain in my ass) so I chided him back. Well since Matt is such a fucking pussy if you haven't noticed already, he took this and just started to use it in a manipulative way to hurt me. This whole business about taking it to the police and what not is theatrics because Reddits gives him a platform to do this shit.
Ok getting back to the pussy comment I made. I have had at least a dozen men and women email me and ask if Matt has always been this way. They have questioned his manhood, more woman then men, I'm serious too. I don't care what he is, it makes no difference to me. I just wish the guy would grow up. I mean you have got to be the silliest male I have ever known.
As far as Felice and her pics of Stinkin Thinkin and me being there with various aliases and so on. Hey be my guest, you want to walk with her down that road go on. I think many here can remember when there was so many DannyB Ii listed here you could not count them all, well she has successfully moved on to create the same thing elsewhere.
My only time ever conversing with Stinkin Thinkin was on a LA Times blog. Period.
All this other shit is inside Felice's head.
First page:
Felice Debra Eliscu
Meet Diablo, aka, Danny Bennison – Stinkin' Thinkin'
stinkin-thinkin.com
“Matty be careful I visit your hometowne [sic] with about 250 other AA men for a conference every May look it up. I should be seeing you in May. We just may corral you and before you know it you be brainwashed. Oh and If I forgot to tell you that I come to your [...]
August 15 at 9:58am
Matt Hoffman
when I first saw this back an hour after it went up on the stinkin-thinkin site back in April of this year (I believe it was April ) by a chance googling of bennison 's name and this is what came up to the top of the search . I really doub...See More
August 15 at 1:06pm
Felice Debra Eliscu Too bad he attacks people and then deletes his attacks. Luckily I know how to take a screen shot. It's hard to believe this guy spends years trolling several sites and attacking people who are already having a hard time.
August 15 at 4:23pm
Matt Hoffman
now I consider words at the top of this post under meet Diablo to be a threat ....what am I saying it was a threat .and it was uttered by bennison to me and really I should have taken it to the olice cause when I read now it still sounds l...See More
August 15 at 8:20pm
Matt Hoffman
Hear my fingers read my words bennison in my four phonecalls not once did he tell me the truth as to what he did at elan as an empolyee of elan , I did not find out later until I read bennisons first manifesto pertaining to what he did as an employee at elan .
I read what he posted in astonished silence and then Mark asked me if I felt stupid , I told Mark it was worse than feeling stupid ,I felt violated ...you see I had asked a few people to back off of bennison and I had no idea why they were raging on him . I realize now that bennsion had siply run the old ..."underlay for the overplay" on me , and once he had gotten over then he had to attack full one trying to destory me in the process.
you see shortly after I had met him on fornits it went down ,and I had been gone from fornits for about alnost two years , I had no idea who or what bennison was and In took him at face value as to what he told me. I honestly felt that he was only a delicvery driver that knew what went on in elan and would be an asset to help us who fort years had been working towards exposing and shutting down elan for over ten years.
What I got was more than a kick in the teeth and a knife in the back , I got attacked and threatend as the start of this topic on the thinkin site will attest ,yes those are danny bennisons words and actually those are some of the nicer demeaning things that he has said to me.
In my opinion danny bennison is a sadistic ,sociopath , who is also a maglignant narcissist , who trolls the internet looking for people weak and vernable people to hurt it makes him feel like a real man and good . I n my opinion he is a real sick ,sick paranoid deluded nutcase ,who is a cyber bully and a` stalker.
I hope the police are aware of him by now, before some thing really really bad happens to an
unsuspecting soul.
Second page:
August 15 at 8:40pm
Felice Debra Eliscu
Be Careful – Stinkin' Thinkin'
stinkin-thinkin.com
Just a quick heads up. One of our trolls, Danny Bennison, has been commenting here again under the name of “Quagmire.” His other aliases include the names: Cuggle, Diablo, Heretikreb and Danny B II. We’ve banned him, but like all cyber stalkers, he doesn’t respect other people’s boundaries. In addit...
August 15 at 9:58am
Kim Morello Ugh....god. I dealt with this asshole on Fornits. Stay away!! He's a big fan of that guy who was just found guilty of manslaughter (4 counts, I believe) in that "sweat lodge" fiasco. STILL defends the guy. DannyBoi is a total Kool-Aid drinker and fake guru follower!!
August 15 at 10:00am · 1 person
Felice Debra Eliscu and....now he is over at http://troubledteenindustry.com/ (http://troubledteenindustry.com/) as Quagmire.
August 15 at 10:05am
Matt Hoffman
Stinkin and thinkin folks have him pegged ,no pun intended , he is posting lunacy on fornits and the Stinkin folks seem to think he also uses the name Heritik, also posting on fornits .
yes people really need to be aware of him ,I found he is a cyber stalker and a cyber bully ,he is going to eventually getysome one to hurt themselves ,in my opinion and from my experience with him and what I have witnessed ,a true sadist and pathological liar. Please be very aware of this person ,he is dangerous to all survivors of any program.
If you need any more info on this sick cyber bully/stalker feel free to pm .
August 15 at 10:44am · 1 person
Kim Morello ?Felice Debra Eliscu, I'm really sorry. As Matt Hoffman said, he was a complete asshole to me on Fornits, to the point where I DID get scared and he made actual threats to me...said he knew where I lived and was in the next town over and would "beat my ass". Document everything!! PM me if you need any help. Best of luck!!!
August 15 at 11:03am · 1 person
Matt Hoffman
Thank you Kim Morello ,he was very abusive to many ,many people and in a fashion that was most cruel and hurtful. I am a witness for you Kim as well as for Felice Debra Eliscu and others .
He is a cyber stalker and a cyber bully ,he is goin...See More
August 15 at 12:53pm · 1 person
Matt Hoffman Quagmire huh, really unbelivable what is this now 5 or 6 aliases , There is a reason why some people cany be them selves , cyber stalking/bullying ....I hope the polise or FBI are paying attention.
August 15 at 8:46pm · 1 person
Felice Debra Eliscu The FBI never cared about Elan why would they care about Danny? They are too busy busting Marijuana Smokers.....
August 15 at 8:48pm · 2 people
Matt Hoffman I hear you Felice , I guess it good that he is well documented in case something God for forbid ,terrible happens as a result of him. It would suck , though he is well witnessed and well documented , thank you Felice .
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I am guilty too of deleting as you can see here...
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Let me ask you a question Joel or who ever you are, did it ever occur to you to support rather then condemn or is it just in your nature to do the latter. I posted this here because I felt I would receive a fair shake since they ran from here to there. I wanted others to read my rebuttal to this crap. It is not a big deal so don't make it one.
I posted and I will have nothing more to say. As far as Elan people coming here, yeah two.
Oh yes the "2 Evil people who have been trying to close Elan for years; Matt Hoffman and Felice Eliscu."
Danny Bennison who plans to work at the South American Elan with Juan F.
Danny Bennison who is now recruiting new Staff to re-open the old Elan in Maine. ::deadhorse::
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Danny, You got your ass kicked on another site and then you come here crying? Are we supposed to defend you?
hhhmm........
let me think about it.................
naaahh......................
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"Do what you feel in your heart to be right – for you’ll be criticized anyway." — Eleanor Roosevelt
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I posted what two Elan survivors said about another Elan survivor on a Facebook group that the one Elan survivor could not defend himself on. Whether you feel I need support is your opinion. This facebook site is called Reddit Troubled Teen Group, it was started for the parents and their children who have suffered from abuse at a place like you went to None Ya.
It is not for two selfish individuals to go off on a abusive tangent and make wild accusations. As you can see they were reined in by their own members and told to stop it or get off the group. Felice who is "Dethgurl" here is back on here after she was banned as Felice for abusing people.
I wanted to post in the Elan Forum here because I could have my say.
Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment. Though you put on a display once again of your silly comedic side.
Oh and None Ya, in your mind, you may be able to scrap out some residual memory of 2 weeks ago when Matt went off on me for no reason and was admonished here. He then brought the side show over to Reddits, thinking he had overwhelming support, not.
I just brought it back home here, son.
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Yeah,seems my demented,pot infested brain remembers something.....
about something,somewhere
yeah....
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Yeah now I remember the "admonishment". Something about dribbling something down your chin, wuddn't it?
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A link to this:http://http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/25/be-careful/ was posted on Reddit Troubled Teens facebook account.
Debi Levin Johnson (Danny Bennison's new cult follower).......decided to start a flame war and blame it on Felice (of course)
Debi Levin Johnson
I am "friends" with Danny Bennison. I fight for the under-dog and he gives me hope that people can change and Wayne Kernochan gives me hope that anyone can forgive:) Please people be human!!!!!
August 16 at 9:59pm
Jackies Rants N Raves I have to agree that people can change... and people can forgive...and also that all people need to be humane...
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Debi Levin Johnson I will never post to"get over it" but he is in his 50's now..... Really. we all make bad choices and stupid mistakes out of anger.
August 16 at 10:08pm ·
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Jackies Rants N Raves well i for sure cant deny the anger part lol
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Debi Levin Johnson lol. Jackie!
August 16 at 10:10pm ·
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Jackies Rants N Raves ?>:)
August 16 at 10:10pm
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Larry Beck amen to all of the above
August 17 at 3:03am
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Joicelyn Baer I agree whole heartedly. I do agree that people can change and forgive.
August 17 at 4:50am
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Kim Morello I hope for your sake he really has changed. Fucker threatened and scared the hell out of me.
August 17 at 5:01am
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Jackies Rants N Raves sorry to hear that kim... i just want to see the infighting stop, thats all... time to let personal feelings fall by the wayside and stay on top of the task at hand...
August 17 at 5:02am ·
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Jackies Rants N Raves and when someone threatens someone, they need to be addressed and the issue squashed so it doesnt go further...
August 17 at 5:03am · 2 peopleLoading...
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Jackies Rants N Raves threats and intimidation only make me mad lol :) *hugs* to ya , sorry you went thru what you did...
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Joicelyn Baer I'm sorry he threatened and scared you Kim, I am so sorry for all that you went through.
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Felice Debra Eliscu Have fun! Let me know when you need to pull that knife out of your back.
August 17 at 5:30am
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Kim Morello Thanks. I'm fine & don't fight with him here and won't, but he really crossed the line....several times. And I mean REALLY crossed the line. Matt Hoffman saw the whole disgusting mess. We did attempt to address it with him. He either denied it or, even worse, would brag & laugh and double down on the threats.
August 17 at 5:36am ·
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Felice Debra Eliscu Yes and he is still at it to this day playing the "nice guy" I am a changed Man card. I do not buy it and anyone who does deserves what they get from him.
August 17 at 5:38am
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Debi Levin Johnson I am so sorry Kim that you got that done to you and I am sincere when I say that NO-ONE sould ever be victimized ever! I hope you are O.K. now.
August 17 at 5:43am
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Debi Levin Johnson If you don't mind me asking Kim Morello, when did this happen to you? Again I am so sorry it did.
August 17 at 6:03am
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Kim Morello On Fornits about 8/9 months or even a year ago. Went on for a long time. And I didn't "get it done" to me.....HE did it. Over and over and over again and then bragged and laughed about it. I'm not upset with you at all! I don't mean this to sound that way. Just tread very carefully.
August 17 at 6:22am
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August 17 at 6:23am
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Wayne Kernochan He did worse to me, so I get what you're all saying. What I don't understand is why this is going on now, and why its going on here. He's not a member, and I've been asked by three people in private messages why Elan is dragging an old flame war into this group. I don't misunderstand the anger or the posts, but it does no good and has the potential to do harm here. It could hurt Reddit's reputation. To outsiders this looks like a bunch of adolescents in a flame war. They don't know the history, hell, some don't even know what Elan is.
August 17 at 6:35am ·
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Aaron Seymour I really can't say I care.
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Debi Levin Johnson Thank god I saved my post because someone deleated it... Chicken shit:)
August 18 at 9:32am
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A simple crapmeister I say. Nobody mentioned his name for a week or so he got antsy and started a shitstorm just for his own ego. Good guy-Bad guy it doesn't really matter. It's all about him.
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http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/25/be-careful/ (http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/25/be-careful/)
Felice why you continue to post this is beyond anyone's comprehension. You created the parodies had them talk there and then want to say I had something to do with it. Bravo we are proud of you.
Funny though the only time I talked with this blog was on a LA Times blog.
Thanks though for showing us all once again what a 48 year old whackjob can do when she puts her mind to work.
All anyone has to do is read this blog Stinkin Thinkin and they can see how you and your friends fit right in.
They love to search for anonymous people post them on their site and abuse them.
I really didn't know much about this site till you brought it up with Matt and Wayne months back.
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A simple crapmeister I say. Nobody mentioned his name for a week or so he got antsy and started a shitstorm just for his own ego. Good guy-Bad guy it doesn't really matter. It's all about him.
So why are you feeding my ego then. :notworthy:
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LUV YA' DANNY!!
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And by the way ,I don't know what the big godamn deal is with facebook anyway. They same few people,most with different names, same crap. Nobody wanted to talk when fornits went down. I guess that's where people go to talk about themselves.
I'm sure this will get moved for being way off topic ,but you get my point.
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LUV YA' DANNY!!
I know, you just show your luv in a detached lonely kind of way.
Thanks anyway.
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And by the way ,I don't know what the big godamn deal is with facebook anyway. They same few people,most with different names, same crap. Nobody wanted to talk when fornits went down. I guess that's where people go to talk about themselves.
I'm sure this will get moved for being way off topic ,but you get my point.
What is it with you about Facebook. Is it the social facet that is terrifying to you. See this is exactly what the programs we went through did to us, created a fear of being social.
Hey None Ya, I am hanging in there with ya, I am trying to be social and you want to beat me up.
You are a crazy ole coot...:)
I am not the enemy my ole friend.
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And by the way ,I don't know what the big godamn deal is with facebook anyway. They same few people,most with different names, same crap. Nobody wanted to talk when fornits went down. I guess that's where people go to talk about themselves.
I'm sure this will get moved for being way off topic ,but you get my point.
What is it with you about Facebook. It is a social group. Is that it social....None Ya has to be social. Can't give ya one liners then run off.
Hey look at me, I am hanging in there with ya, ya know being social and you want to beat me up.
You are a crazy ole coot.
It's a littlle too late for me to "get in the ring". But I do want to thank Wayne for at least answering me when nobody else on fb would.
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http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/25/be-careful/
Felice why you continue to post this is beyond anyone's comprehension. You created the parodies had them talk there and then want to say I had something to do with it. Bravo we are proud of you.
Funny though the only time I talked with this blog was on a LA Times blog.
Thanks though for showing us all once again what a 45 year old whackjob can do when she puts her mind to work.
All anyone has to do is read this blog Stinkin Thinkin and they can see how you and your friends fit right in.
They love to search for anonymous people post them on their site and abuse them.
I really didn't know much about this site till you brought it up with Matt and Wayne months back.
http://http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/04/06/meet-diablo-aka-danny-bennison/
The above quotes are from a guy named Danny Bennison, an AA with a spotted history, and a vicious mean streak. Currently, he writes for “McGowdoghouse,” a blog dedicated to this blog’s existence. His handle over there is “heretikreb,” but he is better known among those who peruse our comment section as “Diablo” (also “Cuggle,” and whatever other sockpuppet he may have slinked through our filter). Understanding the context of the quote requires a bit of background information, both of Diablo (Danny) and the recipient of the comment. It all started with Elan School.
Elan is a private school in Maine, dedicated to helping wayward teenagers. It employs a type of therapy known as “therapeutic community,” which makes the 12-steps look like walk through the park. Its most famous alumnus is Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel, made famous for the murder of his neighbor, Martha Moxley – an act he committed prior to attending Elan. Like Michel Skakel, most of those housed there are from well-to-do families, with the current annual fees costing upwards of $50,000.
Diablo was at Elan, starting in the mid-seventies, for almost three and a half years. First as a student, and later as a resident staff member. He made quite the impression on the other students, with threads in internet forums dedicated specifically to him, by former students of the school who characterize him with terms such as “monster.” People now in their fifties, were so traumatized by him, that multiple internet sites and forums have been started to help his victims connect and cope.
One such student, Wayne Kernochan, was so traumatized by his experience at Elan School, that he wrote an online book about his and other students’ experiences there – with our resident troll, Diablo, as the central figure in the plot: A Life Gone Awry: My Story of the Elan School. Among the many abuses chronicled in the book, was a time when Diablo tied a girl up and dragged her behind the back of his car. She was overweight, and this was Diablo’s method of convincing her to lose weight. As horrific as this sounds, it’s an incident to which Diablo fully admits, and for which he has no regrets. This is from an internet forum where Diablo engages his victims:
“…As far as the dragging incident I am not nor will I be ashamed at programs and the courses it takes, I know that the once Fat Girl thanks me now. I will help any of you lose wight [sic] like here [sic] just call me….”
What kind of sadistic ass-clown ties someone up and drags them around behind the back of a car? And with no remorse. This was written after he had written one of his “amends letters™” to those in this forum whom he had abused. Among the highlights in the amends letter™:
“Wayne I also want to take this time to apologize for any and all harm I caused you either directly or indirectly. I was put in charge to care for you (whether Elan wanted me to do this or not) I knew that you needed to be protected and I failed horribly.
I can only hope in time you can see just how sincere I am.
Now I would also like to take the time to express my sincere apologies to others to have gone to Elan that I was unkind to and down right [sic] rude to over the last year or so. As I have said before I could not have prepared myself enough to understand the impact of emotions that stormed back into my life when I ventured onto this site and others concerning Elan.
I did not handle the emotions from others well. I can only hope that Felice, Sharon, Matt, Mark, Wayne and others can forgive my intolerable behavior I displayed here and other sites a while back. My ongoing amends to you all has been to leave you alone and to empathize with your pain and how I can irritate this with my behavior.”
Notice his mention of those who he had been “unkind to and down right [sic] rude to.” He’s making reference to his numerous meltdowns and continued degradation toward those who he had abused years ago. Today, most of these have been deleted by forum moderators, but there are still fragments of conversations – responses containing quotes from now deleted posts – which give a fairly clear picture of Diablo’s emotional instability. A quick google search of “Danny Bennison Elan” will give you a treasure trove of sociopathic-like behavior, both from Diablo’s words, and from the accounts of his victims. For years, Diablo has been trolling the forums set up to discuss him. His comments teeter from belligerence to apologetic. From anger, to amends™, and back to anger again. It’s the same bi-polar M.O. he operated under here. Often in the same, slogan-ridden language of AA – using the standard catch words and aphorisms. It makes Bill Wilson’s personality look like the epitome of stability. Diablo is just flat-out crazy.
Every human has a few skeletons in their closet, and has people in their past they may have harmed and taken advantage of — but how many people have treated others so badly, they have forums dedicated to help their victims cope with the abuse that they’ve had imposed on them. Who has been so abusive in their life that someone from thirty years in their past decides to write a book about it? Who has friends in high school refer to them as a “monster”? How can this possibly be rectified in an amends letter™?
We have debated whether or not to post about this, but we decided to do so for a few reasons. First, Diablo posted his name openly in our comment section, so the question of anonymity on his part was not a problem. We will not disclose anyone’s name publicly, even those with whom we disagree; and even someone as vicious as Diablo.
Secondly, a rumor has started among a couple of people who were vaguely aware of Diablo’s identity, that he was somehow involved in a murder, which is not remotely true. Diablo has done enough to make himself look bad, without any help from false accusations and innuendo. As big of a jerk as Diablo is, even the implication of his involvement in a murder is unconscionable. The truth is that Diablo claims to have been deposed as a witness in the Michael Skakel trial, which is entirely possible, because they were both at Elan School at the same time. There was a question as to whether Skakel had confessed to the murder of Martha Moxley while he was a student at Elan. Diablo’s involvement as a witness (if he actually did testify) was ancillary, and he had no involvement in the incident. It happened well before Skakel had entered the school, or met the other students (including Diablo).
Finally, and most importantly, he has since we banned him, made contact with some of the readers of this blog, whose emails he acquired after contacting them as a member of the community forum. Our primary reason for getting rid of the forum, is because we could not prevent internet predators and trolls from gaining the trust, and potentially harming, other members. Not just with Diablo, but others, as well. If Diabo (or “heretikreb” or “cuggle” or any of his other aliases we are unaware of) has made contact with you, be aware of the type of person you are dealing with. Diablo, Danny Bennison, is a sick person, and he is aptly named.
Diablo has been an AA for over twenty years. He has sponsored people and worked his way through the AA social circle. No doubt those he sat next to in meetings, sponsored, gained trust from, and coached through the program; had no knowledge of his past, and most likely his present. A person who is inclined to drag a girl around on a rope with a car, has problems that stem well beyond drinking. Clearly, just judging from actions here on our blog, his manipulation and abuse never really ended. At least with us, it was simply head games on the internet, which makes him fairly harmless (unless any of you were foolish enough to share email or telephone information). In AA, it is different. This is a person you are told to trust, that his – not your – judgment is what matters. This is who you are asked to give yourself over to. This Diablo is team McGowdog’s, but there are tens of thousands of Diablos throughout AA. This is the guy sitting next to you at a meeting.
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Mmmm. That's quite a saga there. Sounds like it might just have the makings for another Wayne K. bestseller... I can see it now:
"Elan Community: A Love Never Ending"
by Wayne Kernochan (et al)
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"Dethgurl" wrote:
"DannyB II http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/25/be-careful/ (http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/25/be-careful/)
Felice if you add a commercial just before you post about me and accent with some color, I'm sure then we would all believe you. Remember highlites the audience loves highlites.
Come on you know this from all your You Tube training and Casting Parodies of me.
We luv ya girl....tell Kimmy and Matty we miss them.
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Danny, Have you really been an active AA member for over 20+ years? Did you go straight from Elan to AA?
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I don't tell people who to like or dislike, and I would appreciate the same. If not for me, then do it for the kids in programs. Or has this bullshit become more important?
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Guys I have changed from a inexperienced and sensitive internet member who first came here 18 months ago with a whole lot of piss and vinegar. I really don't want to fight anymore or distract from the purpose of this site or any other site.
I felt the need to defend myself.
I will not apologize for what I said here on this thread (the content), I meant every word.
This wholesale attacking of anyone has got to stop. Site owners and admins. should know better, if you don't then get out of this business.
You really think that attacking me is helping your cause?
None Ya, whether this matters to you or not I don't have any ill will towards you, none.
Dragon fly, Wayne, Ursus and the members I hope you will see/know of my discomfort for any and all distraction this had.
I guess I made my point and it is time for me to move on.
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Isn't the attacking of others part of the therapy you guys endured? Maybe it would be wise to point that out. Shouting down people is not ever the answer when approaching these wrongs.
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Isn't the attacking of others part of the therapy you guys endured? Maybe it would be wise to point that out. Shouting down people is not ever the answer when approaching these wrongs.
Yes it is Xelebes. It was a large part of the behavioral modification therapy they made us endure. Intimidation, coercion, violence (boxing ring and spankings), LGAT's (costumes, cutting of the hair and signs) and attack/confrontational therapy groups (Encounter Groups).
I have to be honest here Xelebes, I was a large part of this stupidity (On fornits here) a while back so I will have to watch what I say (pot calling the kettle black) but I am trying my best to get this to stop.
Xelebes wrote:
"Shouting down people is not ever the answer when approaching these wrongs."
Excellent point, thanks.
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I have no malice twards anyone here or any other site. I'm not looking for a fight. I was sincere when I asked of your AA history. I'm simply curious If that keeps you sober to this day. Iv'e done more than my share of drugs,But Iv'e never had the desire for drink. Simply watching drunk people kinda' ruins it for me. I know I'm gonna' take some heat for this but whatever keeps you from wanting a drink,can't be all bad.
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There are a few here who are internet shouting. It wasn't you none-ya, but it might be of some use to let you know that what you said in the one or two posts prior did come across as snide from the POV of an observer, not a participant in the conversation.
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There are a few here who are internet shouting. It wasn't you none-ya, but it might be of some use to let you know that what you said in the one or two posts prior did come across as snide from the POV of an observer, not a participant in the conversation.
I guess now you're a participant.
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Guess so!
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Guess so!
So,who you iz? Did you follow the war from facebook over to here?
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I am a Wayne K follower. Met him on the discussions that would return on AbsoluteWrite. I just got too curious. I was absolutely stunned when I found the website listing so many questionable programs over the years.
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I am a Wayne K follower. Met him on the discussions that would return on AbsoluteWrite. I just got too curious. I was absolutely stunned when I found the website listing so many questionable programs over the years.
Were you in a program?
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I have no malice twards anyone here or any other site. I'm not looking for a fight. I was sincere when I asked of your AA history. I'm simply curious If that keeps you sober to this day. Iv'e done more than my share of drugs,But Iv'e never had the desire for drink. Simply watching drunk people kinda' ruins it for me. I know I'm gonna' take some heat for this but whatever keeps you from wanting a drink,can't be all bad.
I got sober in AA in 1987 I was 28 at the time stayed till I was 45yrs going on a weekly bases. From that point I very quickly stopped going all together. I found their message to be fear based and their religious believes to much for me. I guess I had always felt this way but was to scared to make a move for fear I would loose friends and possibly my life. I soon found out neither was true.
I still do consider myself a non-active member because I will help anyone if they want to get sober through AA. I just don't tell them they have to go the rest of their life nor do I tell them they will die if they don't.
I have not had a drink or drug since 1987, for that my community and family appreciates... :D
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"Do what you feel in your heart to be right – for you’ll be criticized anyway." — Eleanor Roosevelt
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I am a Wayne K follower. Met him on the discussions that would return on AbsoluteWrite. I just got too curious. I was absolutely stunned when I found the website listing so many questionable programs over the years.
Were you in a program?
No, but I did experience institutional abuse (public school) when Asperger's was not a widely recognised neurodevelopmental disorder. I do have experience with locked cubicles, having to stay in them 8 hours at a time, 5 days a week and be neglected during fire drills while in these cubicles. I do understand that terror.
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I am a Wayne K follower. Met him on the discussions that would return on AbsoluteWrite. I just got too curious. I was absolutely stunned when I found the website listing so many questionable programs over the years.
Were you in a program?
No, but I did experience institutional abuse (public school) when Asperger's was not a widely recognised neurodevelopmental disorder. I do have experience with locked cubicles, having to stay in them 8 hours at a time, 5 days a week and be neglected during fire drills while in these cubicles. I do understand that terror.
None-ya, see also Xelebes' thread 'Sorry for rubbernecking (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=37692)' in the OFFA forum...
On another note, there are some who would not classify Asperger's as a "disorder" per se...
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I have followers?
Maybe I'll give Werner Erhard a call. ::evil::
How many followers do you have?
Maybe you have some brochure.
Always lookin' ya know......
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I am a Wayne K follower. Met him on the discussions that would return on AbsoluteWrite. I just got too curious. I was absolutely stunned when I found the website listing so many questionable programs over the years.
Were you in a program?
No, but I did experience institutional abuse (public school) when Asperger's was not a widely recognized neuro-developmental disorder. I do have experience with locked cubicles, having to stay in them 8 hours at a time, 5 days a week and be neglected during fire drills while in these cubicles. I do understand that terror.
My god Xelebes this is just horrible. This doesn't sound much different from what many have related to concerning being isolated against your will.
Thanks for coming aboard, I really don't care what your credentials are, you understand.
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I posted an article in the Rubbernecking thread about those "opportunity rooms" as they were called.
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This is a Facebook site I am a member of..https://www.facebook.com/AutismAwarenessPage (https://www.facebook.com/AutismAwarenessPage)
I have family members that are autistic (adopted) and a cousin with Aspergers all have the same mother.
My aunt was inspired to adopt these two boys years back when she realized her daughter had Asperger's
and no one was willing to help her not the school system, local mental health services ect...
There has been some change since then, late 60's, but not much if you were to ask me.
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I post on WrongPlanet too, if you are aware of that site.
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I post on WrongPlanet too, if you are aware of that site.
No I was not but I will check it out. Thanks!!
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One last blog I check into, this letter was there. I found it inspiring.
http://juststimming.wordpress.com/2011/ ... m-parents/ (http://juststimming.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/dear-autism-parents/)
Just Stimming…
A land we can share (a place I can map)
Dear “Autism Parents”,
with 9 comments
I want to clear a couple of things up.
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I don’t have autism. I am autistic. This is important to me. It also doesn’t mean that I “see myself as a disability first and a person second,” whatever that is supposed to mean. In my eyes, I’m Julia. Just Julia.
I cannot separate out which parts of me brain are wired because baby I was born this way and which parts of my brain should be marked off as AUTISM. Nor do I particularly care, to be honest. I am Julia, and a significant fraction of Julia is autism (and thus, via the transitive property, I am autism but that’s not the point). Am I a writer because I’m Julia, or because I’m autistic? My writing is good in its own right, I am told, and it’s also fundamentally shaped by my neurology–just like yours. I like Glee and Phineas and Ferb and also Sudoku. Am I allowed to have a personality and preferences, or just perseverations? Is my deeply and inconveniently round-about, pedantic, literal, and analytic way of thinking and using language a sign of a what a profoundly gifted child you were, Julia (and you know, no one ever tells the kids in the gifted programs that they see themselves as gifted first and human second, or that they should call themselves “persons who experience a label of giftedness”) or is it a symptom of some monster hiding in my neurons?
I would argue that it’s both, and that it doesn’t matter. Being autistic fundamentally shapes how I perceive and interact with the world, with a million cascading and subtle consequences. I would not be the same Julia I am now without whatever parts of my brain can be marked as AUTISTIC (and that’s bad science in the first place, the brain is a whole lot more complicated and subtle than that, we know that there isn’t one gene or one wiring variation that leads to autism). I also wouldn’t be the same Julia I am now if I hadn’t skipped eighth grade, or hadn’t spent a summer at Stanford, or hadn’t been in choir ororor…
I’m Julia, and I’m autistic, and I will apologize for, justify, qualify, neither.
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The dichotomy between being a person and having a disability is a false, and useless, one. It’s based in the notion that people with disabilities they can’t hide or that we can’t pretend to ignore aren’t people. In a certain, socio-linguistic, sense, that’s true. Disability is used to mean something inherently bad and wrong and scary and consuming and destructive and sick, and why would you ever want to include that in any way in your identity or personhood? I myself have said that in a perfect world, there would be no such thing as disability. But please, pay attention: it’s very, very important to look at how the same word can be used a few different ways here. In the above scenarios, where disability means bad, I’m quite literally talking about what disability means, what the word is used to signify, what attributes are assigned it, how our current modern Western society places it in context and value. But that’s not what disability inherently, objectively, physically and literally is.
When a car is disabled, it doesn’t work the way it was designed to work anymore. Human beings, though not designed and constructed in factories like cars, are similar. There is a certain range of activities and capabilities to which most of us are accustomed. When someone isn’t able to match up, they too become disabled. Difficulty walking, talking, hearing, seeing, eating? Disability. This is what disability is.
Notice, though, that when a car stops being drivable it doesn’t also stop being a car. Similarly, a human who can’t do some expected human things doesn’t stop being a human. In some contexts, a car that can’t drive is a bad car, worthless, lesser, low- or non-functioning. In others, though–art, architecture, scrap metal (remember, humans aren’t cars and these examples don’t have direct equivalents for us, please don’t try and find the scrap-metal humans), a car with an exploded wheel is valued positively. Similarly, in a world without stairs, using a wheelchair can be an advantage. In a world where everyone uses sign language, only speaking with your mouth is a disadvantage. Meaning and value and worth get assigned to people based on how useful their range of capabilities and potentials are for various activities. A person who can’t participate in the activity they are expected to is disabled. This is what disability means.
A disability is a stigmatized difference, one we haven’t found a slot for yet. I would love for that stigma, that disabling context, to go away. The raw physical difference itself though? It’s a part of me, and I’m not going to hide it, ignore it, or lie about it.
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Quite frankly, it doesn’t matter whether or not I see myself “as a person first, and a disability second.” It’s not going to keep me safe. I know exactly what the other people in the store think when they see me rock, flap, cover my ears.
On the internet, maybe, I have the luxury of expounding on the finer points of person-first versus identity-first language. In real life, in a world where our parents kill us, our classmates abuse us, and our employers are virtually non-existent? I really don’t have that luxury.
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As long as there are people demanding that I call myself a person with autism, as though I am just cohabiting with two different brains, one of which I should really want to discard at the soonest possible opportunity, I will call myself autistic out of sheer defiance. The autistic parts of myself are always what are going to be punished and cut away at, they are what are going to get me hurt and killed, and I will put them in the front where everyone else already sees them and fly them as a goddamn flag.
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I am not flattered when you say that I don’t really see you as autistic or it’s just a label.
Because what you mean is that “I don’t really see you as Bad right now,” and while I am incredibly grateful for that safety, I am also furious that autistic means Bad at all in the first place and that I feel I have anything to be grateful for in that entire situation.
It is, indeed, just a label. One without nearly the neutrality of, say, Campbell’s Chicken Soup. All your wishing in the world won’t change that, and taking away the words I have for my experience just hurts me so you can feel a little more enlightened.
For the record, I don’t really see you as much of an asshole, usually.
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“But my child!” you say. “My child can’t feed themselves! My child needs diapers! My child cannot be left unsupervised! My child is medically affected!”
Well, yes. Your child is disabled. So am I. I thought we were past that?
(Is Steven Hawking low-functioning?
My child is no Stephen Hawking. Indeed. Neither am I. No offense, but neither are you.)
So often the dividing line between really disabled (my child) and high-functioningaka not really disabled(you, a self-advocate disagreeing with me) is writing a blog post or making change for a purchase or reading. I remember being told that if someone can add and read, they can live independently. Well I hate to break it to you, but I am very good at both of those things and I can’t live independently, not even close. I just don’t think that this inability makes me worth less or nothing.
I’m not disparaging the reality of complex developmental and physical disabilities. My own world must function in a parallel and yet fundamentally different and separate realm from even that of my typically developing sister. I have enough imagination, enough personal experience with my own disability, enough time spent living and working with other disabled people, and enough of an ability to hear what people who live with complex developmental and physical disabilities have to say, to know that in some sense it’s a question of scale and that the experience can be dehumanizing for everyone involved.
I’ll spare you the gory details of my life, in part because they are private and in part because I refuse to be a self-narrating zoo exhibit. Been there, done that, Temple Grandin and Donna Williams are better at it. I’ll just say this: it never ceases to amaze me how an entry posted every two or three weeks in the ether about deserving human rights somehow reveals–or, rather, erases–the every intricacy and ramification of a person’s disability in their life.
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If my child could write a blog post like this, I would consider him cured. Fascinating. Have you taught him how? Have you given him the time, tools, technology, and accommodations he would need to do so? Have you exposed him to the ideas this blog post runs on, or has he been sheltered and infantilized? Has he been given an accessible, for him as well as his audience, means of communication? Remember, behavior is communication, that’s Best Practice. Have multiple literacies been facilitated? Remember, everyone reads, everyone writes, everyone has something to say is the current forward-thinking in special education, especially for children with complex access needs. But you’re an advocate for your child, of course you must know that. Silly me, I apologize.
Have his attempts at self-determination and self-advocacy be respected and responded to, regardless of form, or has he been taught that passivity is better?
If he were to want to blog about his favorite cartoon, would that be okay? Or does it need to be serious, age-appropriate, legitimate-in-your-eyes business, every time, all the time–because there are no frivolous blogs anywhere on the internet, are there.
If he were to want to document and share his thoughts via, say, music or a painting or an arrangement of objects, would that be okay? Or must it be words?
Are there limits on chances for this? Is any human being ever stagnant?
Oh, and by the way, your child is still a child, right? How many children blog, do you know?
Sorry, I thought this was worth taking seriously.
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I am not going to make nice.
It’s a common directive. We all want the same things. How can we ever expect anyone to listen to us when we can’t disagree respectfully amongst ourselves?
I am not going to pretend that a power imbalance doesn’t exist. I am not going to pretend that when non-disabled people attempt to end a discussion with self-advocates they did not enjoy, it is with chastisements and pleas to just get along which hit about a million times harder when aimed at someone who’s been taught to have quiet hands and who’s first sentence was Iwantball PLEASE and who, when they were bullied, was sent to social skills training while their abusers were left roaming in powerful packs of friends.
(In no other minority community is this level of power-play tolerated. You are not our voices, we are not the same, we do not want the same things, and if you aren’t disabled? Then by definition you are not a member of the disability community.)
You have the power. If you do indeed, as you claim, want to be allies, then I suggest you start acting like it.
(And, because I must be nice and patient and helpful and I must educate the people telling me to shut up: for god’s sake, if being an ally, let alone a super-special parent ally, is so very hard, check out PFLAG.)
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This is not a “disagreement.” You know what people disagree about? Pizza toppings, ice cream flavors, what Shakespeare meant in the third stanza. Things with small consequences.
You know what happens when we “disagree” about disability?
People die. People get aborted, people get institutionalized, people get sterilized, drugged, and neglected, people go without necessary support and services, people are dehumanized, people are abused, people are silenced, ignored, and erased, people suffer emotional and mental trauma and distress with life-long consequences.
Just as “disability” has become an ugly word for a physical fact, so “disagreement” is being used, here, as a polite word for an ugly thing.
I call bullshit.
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I started blogging, years ago, as a therapy tool, as a way to modify journalling so it would be accessible to me. It turned, slowly, oddly, and very autistically, into a method of communication. Now it’s one of the ways I advocate for myself and my people. Mostly I think of it as a survival strategy.
On days like today?
It’s just a lifeline.
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C'mon JJB, the same posts , multiple locacations. The judge and Danny B. Now that's a tag team to be reckoned with.
Go ahead layeth the smackdown.
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"Do what you feel in your heart to be right – for you’ll be criticized anyway." — Eleanor Roosevelt
More republicans quoting dead democrats.
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Blah Blah Blah! All that time you just spent writing this bullshit up you could be using to help save kids! LOL Go away Danny, no one gives a fuck about anything you post here..
One of our admins here Kelly Matthews is a member of The Reddit Trouble Teen Group, she is also the owner/admin of the TTI Site http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/ (http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/) that asked me to adopt a different user name Quagmire, then turned around and leaked the information.
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He REQUESTED I kick him off. That's the funny thing. LOL
Danny, You got your ass kicked on another site and then you come here crying? Are we supposed to defend you?
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Danny, can ya please explain to me why you originally started this thread as a personal flame war against specific posters, originally titled "Matt and Felice on Reddit Group W/Kim Morelli" ... and then changed the title to "Options to unite people on sites- Good conversation," and started posting (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37681&p=404035#p403884) about autism?
This is a Facebook site I am a member of..https://www.facebook.com/AutismAwarenessPage (https://www.facebook.com/AutismAwarenessPage)
I have family members that are autistic (adopted) and a cousin with Aspergers all have the same mother.
My aunt was inspired to adopt these two boys years back when she realized her daughter had Asperger's
and no one was willing to help her not the school system, local mental health services ect...
There has been some change since then, late 60's, but not much if you were to ask me.
It seems to me if that there are a number of threads already in existence about autism and/or Asperger's, or you could even start another one, but to try to hijack this thread and turn it into something completely different, not even remotely related (as per subject matter as well as content of anybody's post herein thus far), is... well... hmmm.
Am I missing something? Can ya please explain to a tired old bear what exactly was/is the point of all this? Thanks!
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Danny, can ya please explain to me why you originally started this thread as a personal flame war against specific posters, originally titled "Matt and Felice on Reddit Group W/Kim Morelli" ... and then changed the title to "Options to unite people on sites- Good conversation," and started posting (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37681&p=404035#p403884) about autism?
This is a Facebook site I am a member of..https://www.facebook.com/AutismAwarenessPage (https://www.facebook.com/AutismAwarenessPage)
I have family members that are autistic (adopted) and a cousin with Aspergers all have the same mother.
My aunt was inspired to adopt these two boys years back when she realized her daughter had Asperger's and no one was willing to help her not the school system, local mental health services ect...
There has been some change since then, late 60's, but not much if you were to ask me.
It seems to me if that there are a number of threads already in existence about autism and/or Asperger's, or you could even start another one, but to try to hijack this one and turn it into something completely different, not even remotely related (as per subject matter as well as anybody's post herein thus far), is... well... hmmm.
Am I missing something? Can ya please explain to a tired old bear what exactly was/is the point of all this? Thanks!
He was hoping to make a friend.
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One of our admins here Kelly Matthews is a member of The Reddit Trouble Teen Group, she is also the owner/admin of the TTI Site http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/ (http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/) that asked me to adopt a different user name Quagmire, then turned around and leaked the information.
That group really has two of the biggest distractions there, Pixal and Kelly. Neither are survivors and both have enough influence to sway other survivors to choose over one another. How in fucking gods name did Pixal get Reddit to give her a group in their name is beyond me. Then turn around and use it to discriminate against survivors. This message will be a point I will be raising in the near future because a group such as this is not helping children or their parents at all.
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Danny, You got your ass kicked on another site and then you come here crying? Are we supposed to defend you?
hhhmm........
let me think about it.................
naaahh......................
He REQUESTED I kick him off. That's the funny thing. LOL
Ok, lemme get this straight... Danny experiences some personal differences with some other posters on the reddit site, requests to be kicked off, and then comes here to complain that he was kicked off and proceeds to flame those who he had personal differences with, as well as the moderator(s) who complied with his request?
Is that how it went down?
Just askin'...
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One of our admins here Kelly Matthews is a member of The Reddit Trouble Teen Group, she is also the owner/admin of the TTI Site http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/ (http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/) that asked me to adopt a different user name Quagmire, then turned around and leaked the information.
That group really has two of the biggest distractions there, Pixal and Kelly. Neither are survivors and both have enough influence to sway other survivors to choose over one another. How in fucking gods name did Pixal get Reddit to give her a group in their name is beyond me. Then turn around and use it to discriminate against survivors. This message will be a point I will be raising in the near future because a group such as this is not helping children or their parents at all.
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Danny, You got your ass kicked on another site and then you come here crying? Are we supposed to defend you?
hhhmm........
let me think about it.................
naaahh......................
He REQUESTED I kick him off. That's the funny thing. LOL
Ok, lemme get this straight... Danny experiences some personal differences with some other posters on the reddit site, requests to be kicked off, and then comes here to complain that he was kicked off and proceeds to flame those who he had personal differences with, as well as the moderator(s) who complied with his request?
Is that how it went down?
Just askin'...
Well he also was upset with me, because I jumped in on a thread on the reddit facebook page to defend my friend Kim Morello, this Debi girl was talking shit. In the process of that I did point out (since Fornits came up) that Danny had in fact been posting on fornits recently. That's all I really said, I didn't imply anything about what he was posting etc.
Apparently this got back to him and he had a problem with it. C'est la vie. So he told me to remove him from the troubledteenindustry.com website. So I did.
When we started that site, people had asked me to ban him from the get go, which I did, but then he emailed me and we talked about it and I decided to give him a chance. But then I got an email from him (about mentioning that he posted on fornits) and he pretty much was an ass, called me an asshole, said I had no business working in this industry, blah blah blah. So that's my part in all of this.
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Sorry everybody, I was really wasted when I posted that crap. I hardly even remember all the lies i told so I had to read the whole thread again. Damn, what was I thinking? I am sorry Webdiva and Ursus and everyone else that I lied to or lied about. Sometimes when I start lying I just cant stop. Its kind of like drugs, over which I am powerless. Just the other night I was sitting in the AA parking lot, getting my buzz on waiting for the meeting to start. I was thinking about my multiple personality disorder and how it had caused me to be such an insufferable ass for so long. I thought about just walking into that meeting and telling everybody the truth about myself once and for all. Here's the real Danny people!!! Yes I am drunk and yes I am stoned, but I still believe in AA! Then I felt powerless to stop myself from continuing the charade, so I picked up my 20 year chip and headed inside for another night of clowning with the other drunks. good times brother, good times.
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Are you powerless over drugs? What an odd statement.
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Sorry everybody, I was really wasted when I posted that crap. I hardly even remember all the lies i told so I had to read the whole thread again. Damn, what was I thinking? I am sorry Webdiva and Ursus and everyone else that I lied to or lied about. Sometimes when I start lying I just cant stop. Its kind of like drugs, over which I am powerless. Just the other night I was sitting in the AA parking lot, getting my buzz on waiting for the meeting to start. I was thinking about my multiple personality disorder and how it had caused me to be such an insufferable ass for so long. I thought about just walking into that meeting and telling everybody the truth about myself once and for all. Here's the real Danny people!!! Yes I am drunk and yes I am stoned, but I still believe in AA! Then I felt powerless to stop myself from continuing the charade, so I picked up my 20 year chip and headed inside for another night of clowning with the other drunks. good times brother, good times.
LMFAO!
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Are you powerless over drugs? What an odd statement.
Powerless over drugs and many many many other things as well. You see, once you accept that you are powerless then you don't have to accept any real responsibility for your own actions. Its a little something I learned while at Elan. Once I accepted the power of powerlessness then I realized that I didn't have to feel guilty about all the horrendous stuff i did. The burden of guilt was washed in the forgiving river of powerlessness!
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Are you powerless over drugs? What an odd statement.
Powerless over drugs and many many many other things as well. You see, once you accept that you are powerless then you don't have to accept any real responsibility for your own actions. Its a little something I learned while at Elan. Once I accepted the power of powerlessness then I realized that I didn't have to feel guilty about all the horrendous stuff i did. The burden of guilt was washed in the forgiving river of powerlessness!
Ah, satire.
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Sorry everybody, I was really wasted when I posted that crap. I hardly even remember all the lies i told so I had to read the whole thread again. Damn, what was I thinking? I am sorry Webdiva and Ursus and everyone else that I lied to or lied about. Sometimes when I start lying I just cant stop. Its kind of like drugs, over which I am powerless. Just the other night I was sitting in the AA parking lot, getting my buzz on waiting for the meeting to start. I was thinking about my multiple personality disorder and how it had caused me to be such an insufferable ass for so long. I thought about just walking into that meeting and telling everybody the truth about myself once and for all. Here's the real Danny people!!! Yes I am drunk and yes I am stoned, but I still believe in AA! Then I felt powerless to stop myself from continuing the charade, so I picked up my 20 year chip and headed inside for another night of clowning with the other drunks. good times brother, good times.
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Sorry everybody, I was really wasted when I posted that crap. I hardly even remember all the lies i told so I had to read the whole thread again. Damn, what was I thinking? I am sorry Webdiva and Ursus and everyone else that I lied to or lied about. Sometimes when I start lying I just cant stop. Its kind of like drugs, over which I am powerless. Just the other night I was sitting in the AA parking lot, getting my buzz on waiting for the meeting to start. I was thinking about my multiple personality disorder and how it had caused me to be such an insufferable ass for so long. I thought about just walking into that meeting and telling everybody the truth about myself once and for all. Here's the real Danny people!!! Yes I am drunk and yes I am stoned, but I still believe in AA! Then I felt powerless to stop myself from continuing the charade, so I picked up my 20 year chip and headed inside for another night of clowning with the other drunks. good times brother, good times.
I just wanna say that I respect you for coming here and confessing this to the group Danny. Everybody else here (rightly) hates you, but not me Danny. You have made it very clear that you are completly powerless to stop your bad behavior. Just like when you tortured those kids at Elan. I am sure you were powerless then too Danny. :moon:
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Sorry everybody, I was really wasted when I posted that crap. I hardly even remember all the lies i told so I had to read the whole thread again. Damn, what was I thinking? I am sorry Webdiva and Ursus and everyone else that I lied to or lied about. Sometimes when I start lying I just cant stop. Its kind of like drugs, over which I am powerless. Just the other night I was sitting in the AA parking lot, getting my buzz on waiting for the meeting to start. I was thinking about my multiple personality disorder and how it had caused me to be such an insufferable ass for so long. I thought about just walking into that meeting and telling everybody the truth about myself once and for all. Here's the real Danny people!!! Yes I am drunk and yes I am stoned, but I still believe in AA! Then I felt powerless to stop myself from continuing the charade, so I picked up my 20 year chip and headed inside for another night of clowning with the other drunks. good times brother, good times.
I just wanna say that I respect you for coming here and confessing this to the group Danny. Everybody else here (rightly) hates you, but not me Danny. You have made it very clear that you are completly powerless to stop your bad behavior. Just like when you tortured those kids at Elan. I am sure you were powerless then too Danny. :moon:
I probably tortured other children because I was a child (brainwashed) just like you Shaggy. I went into the system at 8 yrs and came out at 19 yrs. I went in because I was trying to escape a extremely violent abusive home life (I ran away a lot, this was my biggest crime when it started). I would sleep outside in the woods just behind my home rather then experience anymore abuse. I remember I would curl up and shiver because I was so scared and lonely but it was still better then what awaited me.
Yeah I was powerless to stop the violence, abuse and torture that I endured but I wasn't powerless to stop hurting others. That is why I left in 1978 and never stepped foot in Elan or any other TC as a employee again. In 1983 and 1988 I went into two more TC's for drug addiction. I have been clean and sober since and have not had anything to do with a 12 step program in almost 7 years. I occasionally will attend a meeting, conference or weekend if it will help someone but this has also dwindle next to nothing.
I know you enjoy all this banter and smart ass conversation but at this point in time, it doesn't have the impact on me it once had. It seems very immature and stupid today, to be honest.
I will invite you to come over and commiserate with other survivors on a Facebook group we have called Elan The After Years. We have folks from all programs there. Maybe I'll see you there.
If not take care Shaggy.
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Sorry everybody, I was really wasted when I posted that crap. I hardly even remember all the lies i told so I had to read the whole thread again. Damn, what was I thinking? I am sorry Webdiva and Ursus and everyone else that I lied to or lied about. Sometimes when I start lying I just cant stop. Its kind of like drugs, over which I am powerless. Just the other night I was sitting in the AA parking lot, getting my buzz on waiting for the meeting to start. I was thinking about my multiple personality disorder and how it had caused me to be such an insufferable ass for so long. I thought about just walking into that meeting and telling everybody the truth about myself once and for all. Here's the real Danny people!!! Yes I am drunk and yes I am stoned, but I still believe in AA! Then I felt powerless to stop myself from continuing the charade, so I picked up my 20 year chip and headed inside for another night of clowning with the other drunks. good times brother, good times.
I just wanna say that I respect you for coming here and confessing this to the group Danny. Everybody else here (rightly) hates you, but not me Danny. You have made it very clear that you are completly powerless to stop your bad behavior. Just like when you tortured those kids at Elan. I am sure you were powerless then too Danny. :moon:
I probably tortured other children because I was a child (brainwashed) just like you Shaggy. I went into the system at 8 yrs and came out at 19 yrs. I went in because I was trying to escape a extremely violent abusive home life (I ran away a lot, this was my biggest crime when it started). I would sleep outside in the woods just behind my home rather then experience anymore abuse. I remember I would curl up and shiver because I was so scared and lonely but it was still better then what awaited me.
Yeah I was powerless to stop the violence, abuse and torture that I endured but I wasn't powerless to stop hurting others. That is why I left in 1978 and never stepped foot in Elan or any other TC as a employee again. In 1983 and 1988 I went into two more TC's for drug addiction. I have been clean and sober since and have not had anything to do with a 12 step program in almost 7 years. I occasionally will attend a meeting, conference or weekend if it will help someone but this has also dwindle next to nothing.
I know you enjoy all this banter and smart ass conversation but at this point in time, it doesn't have the impact on me it once had. It seems very immature and stupid today, to be honest.
I will invite you to come over and commiserate with other survivors on a Facebook group we have called Elan The After Years. We have folks from all programs there. Maybe I'll see you there.
If not take care Shaggy.
>>>>Danny :beat: <<<<<<Dethgurl
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Sorry everybody, I was really wasted when I posted that crap. I hardly even remember all the lies i told so I had to read the whole thread again. Damn, what was I thinking? I am sorry Webdiva and Ursus and everyone else that I lied to or lied about. Sometimes when I start lying I just cant stop. Its kind of like drugs, over which I am powerless. Just the other night I was sitting in the AA parking lot, getting my buzz on waiting for the meeting to start. I was thinking about my multiple personality disorder and how it had caused me to be such an insufferable ass for so long. I thought about just walking into that meeting and telling everybody the truth about myself once and for all. Here's the real Danny people!!! Yes I am drunk and yes I am stoned, but I still believe in AA! Then I felt powerless to stop myself from continuing the charade, so I picked up my 20 year chip and headed inside for another night of clowning with the other drunks. good times brother, good times.
I just wanna say that I respect you for coming here and confessing this to the group Danny. Everybody else here (rightly) hates you, but not me Danny. You have made it very clear that you are completly powerless to stop your bad behavior. Just like when you tortured those kids at Elan. I am sure you were powerless then too Danny. :moon:
I will invite you to come over and commiserate with other survivors on a Facebook group
From reading this whole thread complete with topic changes,it is a hoot and a half, It is funny to see how a punk like Danny Bennison twists and turns ,the betwixt and the between. "ah the irony and the satire and the fiction" that espouses from when your finger tips hit the keyboards. Really Danny Bennison you want to invite people to the cult of Danny Bennison for good commiseration.
Do ya really think sane people who know what you have done to survivors of elan and other programs would take any of your blah ,blah , blah , passive -agressive , pathological lying punk garbage seriously .....Danny Bennison ,Danny Bennison you make me laugh .
Oh and Danny Bennison I am very flattered that you are so concerned and CURIOUS as to my sexuality. Really Danny Bennison I am quite flattered ,though because of your constant speculations ,I feel that I must tell you that I am not gay and I am not interested in your sexual interest of me. I feel that you are really wasting your time trying to convince yourself otherwise, and the fact that you do this makes me a wee bit uncomfortable for you . It has been a constant thing of yours that I would like you to try to satisfy elsewhere .I am not the man that you think that can do this for you.
I am sure there are many gay men who would enjoy what you have to offer, I am sure there are some sado-masos that would love to help fulfill your needs , it just aint me ,sorry Danny Bennison I am not gay ,not even a little...lol.
I am humbled that you in your normally misguided fashion, have finally come to realization that I have for many ,many years done my best to expose and shut down the elan school and other abusive programs in your so called "teen help industry" I can also give you credit for attacking the ones who have been the most outspoken in their attempt at exposing and trying to get your precious elan closed. Sick credit as it is you deserve it.
Your passion in these attacks is found all over the internet , you really went all out , you gave us such credibility as to what we were talking about . Your attacks were just like what we experienced in elan ,the coercion,threats and just all out attacks meant to cause pain 34 years after the fact of elan.
We all know Waynes book Danny Bennison is about you ,you proved it by how you treated survivors of elan, and other programs.For us Waynes book was a healing salve for our retraumatized souls. The trauma caused by your vicious and unmerciful attacks, because of your many mental sicknesses.
Really Danny Bennison you are one sick ,sick creature......Why would I or anyone who knows what you have done to survivors of elan and other programs ,would consider joining your cult page. Are you really that stupid to believe that you as an abuser of survivors could get those very same survivors to join your cult of Danny Bennison. You really are one sick distorted freak of a human being type creature .
I imagine that the rest of the human race should be glad that you went to elan , cause it certainly cured you of acting off your serial killer mentality type impulses, nuetured it as a matter of fact ,though they just could not cure that mental illness that drives it , and alas this is what we are stuck with. A very sick Danny Bennison who 34 years after elan is still leaving survivors in his wake.
fuck you Danny Bennison and go to fucking hell you sick ,sick little punk.
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Matt, I have not once initiated a conversation, given a comment or looked your way in almost a year but yet for someone who hates me, calls me despicable names and says over and over how much they don't want anything to do with me. You sure stalk and harass me a bit to much.......or at least try.
Oh, Matt would you please show us all the violence you keep talking about. Because just about every site/group you have been on the members from this entity have read everything and just don't see it the way you and your friends do.
One other thing Matt, I have you banned on facebook but like a little puppy thirsty for water you join The Core so you can read my posts. What's up, am I still a fixation in your life Matty, should I send you a pic of me, come on dude let it go.
Matt, thanks again for coming on someone else thread and being a selfish. I always knew it was about YOU, now everyone is beginning to see them same character flaw you have.
Take care, big guy.
The above words are from Danny Bennison that he posted in response a post that I posted . that yes Judge Joe Brown it was a little off topic , though Exelebes was asking when will it end, and it is obvious that Danny benison doe not understand or comprehend the English language .....
so I am now a Shellfish ...lol...is that what you were trying to say Danny Bennison .
Danny Bennison you have me blocked on face book .I can't read what you post I also can not tell if you are in certain groups . Now Danny Bennison this is the truth, (you really should hold onto yur head so it doesn't expolode from this truth )An Aside before the truth ,I really pray to God that it was the other way that I had Danny Bennison blocked o fce book ,he has unblocked me to pass on abusive messages thru face boo pages and then will re block me he likes to fuck with me , I guess cause he is a sick old sexually frustrated punk
Okay Danny Bennison the truth ,you holding your head ,no the one on top of your neck silly , good... you got it now ...the truth is that I was asked to join the new core face book page by one of the people that created it .What Danny Bennison is lying about is that I have not joined that "core" page ....Danny Bennison you projecting little punk it IS ALL about you ......I asked one of the fellows who is in the new core group if you were3 in it and they said that they didn't know .I told them that I could not join if Danny Bennison wqas a member ,Danny Bennison why do ya think I have never tried to join your cult page , the after .....(and what idiot came up with that name , ,thatall be Danny Bennison)I don't condone your trolling of victims and my God have you ever heard when a person leaves Danny's cult , he reaches out and guilts them to no end ....like a true cult leader ....
the truth is I have not joined the new core facebook page. I could give a flying sanchez ,what this punk Danny Bennison writes cause from reading his tripe at the beginning of this reply ,I know Dam well it is not going to be the truth , though if I see him hurting someone or lying about me I will straighten the punk out .
QAnd Danny I don't care what you have manipulated people into thinking about your threat to me. It was issuesed to me . Now your abuse to me and many others is all over the internet ,and yes if you want to call it mental violence then that is your business , I don't need to over dramatize to minnimize like you are trying to do ....Yeah you are going to be to dumb to understand that one .
Bullshit Danny Bennison your attacks have been in the past few weeks you stupid ,stupid punk. And they have been over the summer and they have been still Happening you distorted abuser of elan survivors .I guess you abuse so much that you don't know who your victims are or when the last time you visited your gasrbage on them .
Its a shame Danny Bennison you can't understand the English language ,for a myriad of reasons. One is the answer to Exelebes question when does this end.
you really need to go back to school and get some remedial English in yur skull.
The other is Dany Bennison , Danny Bennison look man I just told you here which you incindentally posted in the offa also so I know you read it ....Look Danny Bennison I am not gay ,not even a little bit ...lol...sorry man but your need to want to send me pictures of yourself to me when you know this are really starting to border on the stalking sick and twisted version as how I see it .
For the last time Danny Bennison I am sure that you can find some sado -maso gays in yur town that would love to be able to fufill your needs ....Danny Bennison do your self a favor and send themthe pictures of yourself ....who know you might get lucky in your quest .
...and as Randal says when he describes what the Honey Badger is doing to the snake , "ewww thats gross."
Fuck you Danny Bennison and while you are doing that go to hell.