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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: maruska on September 07, 2010, 10:05:01 AM
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http://cafety.youthrights.org/wiki/inde ... rgan_Gauss (http://cafety.youthrights.org/wiki/index.php?title=Morgan_Gauss)
I have not yet been placed in a "character building school/wilderness program/boot camp/gay re-education camp/or a therapeutic boarding school" but as of today I am packing to be placed in the later. Basically, Monday I will be expected to walk into a therapeutic/troubled teen boarding school titled "Academy at Sisters" - which is in Bend, Oregon. So far I have heard nothing but bad things of this school. Facebook groups of survivors have said that it's "taken their hopes and dreams, and replaced them with skills only to be used by housewives," and have claimed that, "it took away our basic rights, and forced us to learn nothing but compliance." My parents think it is a good idea to send me here, however, I disagree to the highest extent. I have done nothing wrong. Sure, In my past I've made mistakes, but whom hasn't? I have never done drugs, stolen, lied to the extent that it has caused me/others harm.. None of the things that the AAS advertises it shall help with. Why am I posting a testimony? Because I want this to be here for someone to edit while I'm in the program. Because I want someone to see that I had a level head about me before I left. I still have hopes, dreams, and ambitions, and I want that documented before it's gone.
I don't want to be added to the list of survivors. I don't want to have to try and survive it at all.
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My son attended not only a wilderness program but also a supposed thereuputic college prep school. He graduated last month and is now attending university (1 of the 2 ) that accepted him. There brochure lists literally hundreds of colleges and universities that their graduates attend and make the place seem like absolute heaven. He has been at university less that 3 wekks and he is not doing well at all, although he is now eighteen he still has the mentality of the 16 year old that was locked away by his father. He initially failed the basic algebra test for acceptance to the university scoring only a 14 out of 50, but supposedly he was doing pre-calculus at their facility. These places do not usually have licensed therapists (none where he was at anyway) the workshops are cruel, having to write your own obituary, pretend that you are dead, etc. Also, the mandatory placement in solitary for weeks on end with only an hour for exercise, being told who you can talk to, you are always on "bans" with someone. Phone calls once every two weeks for 20 minutes. All letters read, ingoing and outgoing. No contact unless you attend there workshops. These places should all be closed. My son is a mess, smoked pot less that one week after getting out. That wasn't mentioned in there fancy brochures. The owners of these facilities are laughing all the way to the bank!! I think your parents should reconsider this plan of action. I don't know their reasons why but perhaps whatever you need help wise can be obtained in your home town.
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I can tell you for an absolute fact that she wasn't sent anywhere on the 21st.
As for questions such as "what's going on right now", [deleted], [you don't need to know], and [classified].
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More like {no one really friggin' knows], [if we knew we'd have already smeared in in certain people's faces for hilarity], and/or [gone apeshit and started raisin' some serious caine].
Oh yeah, and I've gotten tired of this shit. I threw down an ultimatum earlier tonight. Either we get some word directly from the horses mouth or it goes gloves off. I'm tired of pussy footing around with these psychotic program parents.
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http://choosesomethinelse.tumblr.com/ (http://choosesomethinelse.tumblr.com/)
Welp, that was fast.
She was sent around the beginning of the month.
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She never actually went.
http://choosesomethinelse.tumblr.com/po ... ll-im-back (http://choosesomethinelse.tumblr.com/post/1164832931/well-im-back)
I ran away from home to avoid boarding school.
I am back at high school.
That’s all the general public needs to know.
But I’m here again :D
She took Niles' advice and it helped save her fucking ass.
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She took Niles' advice and it helped save her fucking ass.
You read the NEXT entry? Oh wait. All the postings end the next day, despite an uninterrupted stream of posting prior to that. I wonder what happened. I really wonder. Her parents would never lie to her and... I don't know, have her "escorted" to some super-lockdown now that she ran away.
Good job there. Yeah. Real good job. Brilliant advice there. You alienated a parent, encouraged a minor to run away, and managed to get her sent to a program (probably an even worse one) in the process. Programs should hire you and Niles. You do good work.
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Would the admin please ban the previous poster for gratuitous insults and not being able to read a timeline? (Protip: On Tumblr, the date goes before the post)
Her uninterrupted stream of posts starts in mid-August and stops abruptly on August 31st when she eats a yummy bowl of GTFO and evanesces.
They restart on September 21st. Her last post is on September 22nd.
It's the morning of September 23rd.
The idea of her father sending her to some worse shithole is possible, but incredibly unlikely due to his psychological makeup, the fact that she's already enrolled in public high school, along with [deleted] and [not for your eyes].
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PODKs you are a POS. You and Niles threatened and posted a 15 year old girls name and address on a porn site. You encouraged her to run away and live on the streets.... a 15 year old girl. You still dont get it? How old are you? Niles is old enough to know better.
There is nothing good about what you did to her and her family nor your advice.
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According to our analyze of her blog she is not living at home but in a shelter. There are a number of shelters in Hillsboro which have the goal reconnecting families with too much programming. It is the intelligent way to run away. Seek the protection of people connected with the authorities. While running away is poor solution her approach show that she is not just another troubled girl. It is a question of lifestyle and faith (It takes a longer look at previous posts in her blog to understand why).
It is however far from the best solution. Now she has to act with almost as a nun to avoid being shipped off to restricted facility. Of course you can claim that the Academy at Sisters is a modern Nunnery because she give the girls no professional education and pull them a week before graduation so they can hold them back from ever graduating high school so they have to target their career on finding a rich man and live of him.
I am sure that the Academy at Sisters will not touch her now. She is a too tough a case for them and the case did pull them out of the shades they were operating under. I bet they are wondering how they can go back being unknown so they can avoid using so many ressources as the Family Foundation School who has to write "I am not a crook" at least one per week.
But there are other places out there which will go for cases like her. Places which have a higher fatality rate than the Academy of Sisters. Another support group is trying to get a girl released from a facility in the middle of Death Valley.
This case provides a good argument to those facilities which recommend keeping the placement a secret and advocating the use of youth transport companies. They will start to warn parents against discussing the placement openly because the kid could go out and find a support group on the Internet. When we searched articles in Hillsboro we found eyewitness statement about such a transport taking place (http://http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2010/08/northwest_news_beaverton_police_search_for_clues_in_case_of_blindfolded_girl_anger_over_tacoma_medic.html). Next time her parents could start listen to a facility which is operating like that and then it is Morgan which are seen hooded and in mechanical restraints.
This case was handled very wrongly from the very start. We will sit down and talk with some of the groups we work with about how to set up a number of webpages with advice for teenagers who is in risk of a placement. An amount of ethical rules concerning the nature of advices given to teenagers in this situation need to be applied.
We can only pray that the situation works out for Morgan. It is serious business for her.
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I am sure that the Academy at Sisters will not touch her now. She is a too tough a case for them and the case did pull them out of the shades they were operating under..................
But there are other places out there which will go for cases like her. Places which have a higher fatality rate than the Academy of Sisters.............
This case provides a good argument to those facilities which recommend keeping the placement a secret and advocating the use of youth transport companies. They will start to warn parents against discussing the placement openly because the kid could go out and find a support group on the Internet.
This case was handled very wrongly from the very start............
We can only pray that the situation works out for Morgan. It is serious business for her...........
Oscar you are right on the money.
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She took Niles' advice and it helped save her fucking ass.
You read the NEXT entry? Oh wait. All the postings end the next day, despite an uninterrupted stream of posting prior to that. I wonder what happened. I really wonder. Her parents would never lie to her and... I don't know, have her "escorted" to some super-lockdown now that she ran away.
Good job there. Yeah. Real good job. Brilliant advice there. You alienated a parent, encouraged a minor to run away, and managed to get her sent to a program (probably an even worse one) in the process. Programs should hire you and Niles. You do good work.
I have but one thing to say:
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This applies to literally everyone who would rather have her be suffering through horrors many of you know first hand.
For a 'libertarian' you don't give a shit about the chattel, Psy.
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I am sure that the Academy at Sisters will not touch her now. She is a too tough a case for them and the case did pull them out of the shades they were operating under..................
But there are other places out there which will go for cases like her. Places which have a higher fatality rate than the Academy of Sisters.............
This case provides a good argument to those facilities which recommend keeping the placement a secret and advocating the use of youth transport companies. They will start to warn parents against discussing the placement openly because the kid could go out and find a support group on the Internet.
This case was handled very wrongly from the very start............
We can only pray that the situation works out for Morgan. It is serious business for her...........
Oscar you are right on the money.
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Yes of course the program you represent right whootie?
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PODKs you are a POS. You and Niles threatened and posted a 15 year old girls name and address on a porn site.
I think that's actually actionable libel, lol!
You encouraged her to run away and live on the streets.... a 15 year old girl.
In a safe place to do so.
You still dont get it?
Why don't you, we do!
How old are you? Niles is old enough to know better.
I'm many times old enough to know you're a really shitty shill.
There is nothing good about what you did to her and her family nor your advice.
The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life. I doubt mommie-dearest will even notice and Mr Gauss is such a fucking idiot it's not like she's missing out on guidance.
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The spirit guides will show us the way.
My read on it is that she's at home. It's not likely you can just wander your happy ass back to high school without someone noticing. Is she at risk of being transported to somewhere worst? Possibly, but at this point I think old DG has other things to worry about. :fuckoff:
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You justify blindfolding and binding teenagers to take them off for therapy as not harmful, necessary, and therapeutic.
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The spirit guides will show us the way.
My read on it is that she's at home. It's not likely you can just wander your happy ass back to high school without someone noticing. Is she at risk of being transported to somewhere worst? Possibly, but at this point I think old DG has other things to worry about. :fuckoff:
I like whofaggot's sliding-slope fear-mongering about programs.
He supports programs and if we don't go along with kind gentle ones they'll get worse and worse until she's in a gulag in Siberia. Just as a word of advice, I'd tweak my PR before trying to use a thinly veiled "we'll just get worse if you resist!" ploy.
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The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life.
Like your sister? (wink). You suck at helping people, Niles. We both know that. You let your selfishness get in the way. Lets stop pretending you really care. You couldnt even get the balls up enough to help yourself or your own sister. Its all about you and the drama. Now you have a sidekick (PODKs) who sucks up to you.
Its all a anime game for you.
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It's over 9000 now everyone!
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The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life.
Like your sister? (wink). You suck at helping people, Niles. We both know that. You let your selfishness get in the way. Lets stop pretending you really care. You couldnt even get the balls up enough to help yourself or your own sister. Its all about you and the drama. Now you have a sidekick (PODKs) who sucks up to you.
Its all a anime game for you.
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Anyway, for someone so keen on trying to get to know people personally, you sure are secretive yourself. I find it rather amusing you hide behind a veil while telling people to listen to your advice and give people money at your behest.
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The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life.
Like your sister? (wink). You suck at helping people, Niles. We both know that. You let your selfishness get in the way. Lets stop pretending you really care. You couldnt even get the balls up enough to help yourself or your own sister. Its all about you and the drama. Now you have a sidekick (PODKs) who sucks up to you.
Its all a anime game for you.
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Thank you, for stating the obvious. Ya know what is so sad, Niles, is prances around like a peacock acting as if what he has done is really going to effect the outcome. You are kidding yourself, Niles. This is not the time to come on fornits and showcase your ego-mania.
Cool story bro :sue:
If we're talking about my family my sister is on AB honor roll.
Also it's about kids like Morgan, not me, you, or Psy's reverse ???????????.
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The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life.
Like your sister? (wink). You suck at helping people, Niles. We both know that. You let your selfishness get in the way. Lets stop pretending you really care. You couldnt even get the balls up enough to help yourself or your own sister. Its all about you and the drama. Now you have a sidekick (PODKs) who sucks up to you.
Its all a anime game for you.
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I know niles. He lashed out because he didn't think enough about cause and effect and was genuinely offended to the point where he felt he had to act. It wasn't a well thought out plan of action, but his heart was in the right place (sort of)... in other worlds, he wanted what's best for the girl which is the same as what the parents wanted. He just also wanted the parents punished for committing the injustice. PODK on the other hand... I don't know. I lean towards thinking he does it mostly for the "lulz" (shits & giggles). He feeds on drama.
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The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life.
Like your sister? (wink). You suck at helping people, Niles. We both know that. You let your selfishness get in the way. Lets stop pretending you really care. You couldnt even get the balls up enough to help yourself or your own sister. Its all about you and the drama. Now you have a sidekick (PODKs) who sucks up to you.
Its all a anime game for you.
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I know niles. He lashed out because he didn't think enough about cause and effect and was genuinely offended to the point where he felt he had to act. It wasn't a well thought out plan of action, but his heart was in the right place (sort of)... in other worlds, he wanted what's best for the girl which is the same as what the parents wanted. He just also wanted the parents punished for committing the injustice. PODK on the other hand... I don't know. I lean towards thinking he does it mostly for the "lulz" (shits & giggles). He feeds on drama.
cool story bro.
You kind of have that reversed btw.
Not that I actually give a half shit, but I just thought you should know.
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The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life.
Like your sister? (wink). You suck at helping people, Niles. We both know that. You let your selfishness get in the way. Lets stop pretending you really care. You couldnt even get the balls up enough to help yourself or your own sister. Its all about you and the drama. Now you have a sidekick (PODKs) who sucks up to you.
Its all a anime game for you.
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Anyway, for someone so keen on trying to get to know people personally, you sure are secretive yourself. I find it rather amusing you hide behind a veil while telling people to listen to your advice and give people money at your behest.
I am not secretive at all, Niles. Everyone knows who I am, just ask Dysfunction Junction!! lol. I dont take money from people nor tell them where to spend it. I also dont put 15 year old girls info on porn sites and then walk around like you are making a positive effect in this world. You are scum, Niles.
It blows my mind how protective you use to pretend to be about your sister at 15 years of age and then turn around and expose this girl like that. You suck at trying to help people. You have no morals and are only in this for the high drama and it doesnt matter who you hurt. Why not try to help this person instead of letting her go down the same path as your sister? Try to be a man and do the right thing, screw PODKs you dont need his ego boast.
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Your tears are so very, very sweet.
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You are scum, Niles.
seconded. And since this is open free for all (i'll split it later maybe), i'd like to add a healthy "fuck you" for giving that girl horrible horrible advice. You want underage girls to live on the streets? Yeah, that's safe. Where do you think they can go? They can't stay with friends. And so they have to find new friends who will help underage girls. And if I remember correctly she's blind. You know what that means. Yeah. That's real safe. Sure programs can fuck you up but if you're properly prepared you can mitigate the damage. It's a luxury when somebody knows beforehand. You took an incredible risk with this girl's future and the fact that you seem to flippantly not care makes me think you are indeed, scum.
God fucking bless open free for all. I miss this place. It's like a rap.
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"Stop! Stop it god dammit stop it! I'm busy explaining how to hock a loogie and use her spittle as lube when you go and say she should just evade months of being raped completely!"
If she's blind that news to me but I do think you're too busy projecting Virginia, D.C., and your own upbringing to realize how well off the homeless can be in Oregon.
Anyway, I cannot speak for what pile has done, but I can speak for myself. All I did was tell her what could happen and suggest that she make a decision about running away or not, given the reality she was facing. If you really think some cursory education about sociology not very well imprinted into the mind of a 14/15/whatever year old teenage girl is going to somehow make them just float through a program you're smoking some good shit besides cock and various weeds, Mike.
Abuse over enough time can weaken and break literally anyone, including very well trained, elite troops who went through a full litany of hazing and actual training to resist this shit. You're seriously telling me that reading sociology books for a few weeks - as if she can take them with her - will somehow make up for the isolation, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and lack of hygiene. You might as well say if she gets phlegm from the back of her throat, asks nicely, and spits on her hand her rapist will let her lube up first.
It was painfully obvious her parents are dense, merely stupid, or just trying to ditch the kid. She's gone and out of their hands and I'm reasonably sure they just quit giving a shit. Mrs Gauss is probably busy fucking someone from some shitty cover band as we speak!
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You got to look at it from their perspective. These are people who have never been in a program, so they come onto fornits and read the posts from people who had negative experiences in programs, and assume everybody has an experience as bad as that. Those of us who have been in programs know it's not as evil as some people portray it, and that good things also happen in programs. This rhetorical overreach of the posters here engage in has caused an unwanted side effect, which is to enrage these good hearted, yet naive people into an angry mob mentality, people who will do anything to keep people out of the supposed "evil" programs, as they are described here. If my only experience with programs was what I read on fornits, I would also agree with the extreme tactics. The ends justify the means, so long as the teen does not end up in a program, that is all that is important. This extreme position, is the result of people here only focusing on the negative, and portraying programs as evil to teengers as say concentration camps were to the Jews. So this sort of action does not surprise me at all, and it's not a coincidence it's people who haven't been in programs perpetrating it. Those of us who have been in programs, know the difference between what is said on fornits, and what true reality awaits teens entering a program.
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This thread gets better and better, best thing is yall are only encouraging others to join in with them. I find it very telling the number of people who haven't commented on this situation beyond the bare minimum of, "bad niles, bad pile, (insert outraged comments here)."
Those of you who were urging me to get her to run away in private, and there were alot of you people doing that, you really should say your bit now.
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She's not blind, psy. I don't know where the hell you pulled that from.
In case you haven't figured it out, the collective concern trolling around here means absolutely nothing. Cry louder. Maybe someone else might care.
Gookin, if they want to remain anon, let them. There's no point in them sacrificing that for the purposes of a whine thread.
From what I understand, she's at home now, or possibly with relatives, and her odds of being sent anywhere at this point are effectively zero.
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Hopefully she has wised up to her parent's stupidity and avarice enough to have a stand-by exit plan ready and waiting at all times.
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This thread gets better and better, best thing is yall are only encouraging others to join in with them. I find it very telling the number of people who haven't commented on this situation beyond the bare minimum of, "bad niles, bad pile, (insert outraged comments here)."
Those of you who were urging me to get her to run away in private, and there were alot of you people doing that, you really should say your bit now.
Thanks for pointing that out, Che, Their silence is deafening. Many of them got pissed at me before for naming names so I wont do it now because they know who they are.
Its amazing how many people just sit back in silence and let these bullies just do and say what they want. Then later say "Oh, I never supported PODKs and Niles".
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I still love how Psy thinks the key to fixing programs it to teach kids beforehand how wrong it all is and how to make drooly phlegm to slob a knob with to make it not hurt :beat:
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This thread gets better and better, best thing is yall are only encouraging others to join in with them. I find it very telling the number of people who haven't commented on this situation beyond the bare minimum of, "bad niles, bad pile, (insert outraged comments here)."
Those of you who were urging me to get her to run away in private, and there were alot of you people doing that, you really should say your bit now.
Thanks for pointing that out, Che, Their silence is deafening. Many of them got pissed at me before for naming names so I wont do it now because they know who they are.
Its amazing how many people just sit back in silence and let these bullies just do and say what they want. Then later say "Oh, I never supported PODKs and Niles".
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You're the Christine O'Donnell of fornits, except probably less pretty.
Psy's the one who is probably on par as far as dicksucking goes as of late though.
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I still love how Psy thinks the key to fixing programs it to teach kids beforehand how wrong it all is and how to make drooly phlegm to slob a knob with to make it not hurt :beat:
When you can't win a battle you can at least cut your losses and regroup. Kids are going to get sent to programs. The ones who are smart and savvy enough (can't think of a better candidate than a sociology student) to be taught how to survive inside should be. Even if they do "go native" as many eventually will, those with some education, who know how to "swim", won't completely drown in the program's dogma or will be able to scramble back to the surface. Most kids don't get treatment for their program experiences after they leave and the more they wait the more damage. It's best they understand what went on and as a result can better deal with it.
I'd like to think that every parent is open to dialogue but not all parents are. Even when they aren't however, you can't predict the future and it's better not to blow up bridges. That parent may eventually learn it's a con, especially if there is communication.
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When you can't win a battle
But that's exactly what we did, shitbird.
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When you can't win a battle
But that's exactly what we did, shitbird.
We'll see. And even if you're right, it was still a gigantic risk.
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I still love how Psy thinks the key to fixing programs it to teach kids beforehand how wrong it all is and how to make drooly phlegm to slob a knob with to make it not hurt :beat:
When you can't win a battle you can at least cut your losses and regroup. Kids are going to get sent to programs. The ones who are smart and savvy enough (can't think of a better candidate than a sociology student) to be taught how to survive inside should be. Even if they do "go native" as many eventually will, those with some education, who know how to "swim", won't completely drown in the program's dogma or will be able to scramble back to the surface. Most kids don't get treatment for their program experiences after they leave and the more they wait the more damage. It's best they understand what went on and as a result can better deal with it.
I'd like to think that every parent is open to dialogue but not all parents are. Even when they aren't however, you can't predict the future and it's better not to blow up bridges. That parent may eventually learn it's a con, especially if there is communication.
Or, yanno, she could just dodge it completely because she had the option and is in a good place to exercise that option. Nevertheless you can educate them and say to be scarce when the kidnappers show up, which is kind of what happened.
At any rate, the crux of this is I'm saying to put on sneakers, and you're saying to pack condoms, w/r/t the issue of being potentially raped over and over again by people she's capable of outrunning.
Furthermore, if you had wanted to engage them in dialog, watch out to not step on their toes, use doilies and coasters before putting glasses on their table, take off your shoes before stepping inside and give Daniel Gauss the first BJ he's had in years, you should have actually done so, instead of just hinting at it. IF you really want to butter them up and think there's a way to use weasel words so these big fat babies can find a way out without fucking up their kid, just fucking do it.
Or, since you like stupid -chan memes, DIF.
At any rate, if that fails, at least making an attempt to evade a program until 18 while also knowing what it really entails is better than going in and trying to act docile and submissive in the hopes it won't make it worse. You should know better having experienced this first hand. And yes, I know I'll never win an argument with you, but I'm not going to settle for selling "act like you enjoy it!" as a means of avoiding rape.
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When you can't win a battle
But that's exactly what we did, shitbird.
We'll see. And even if you're right, it was still a gigantic risk.
"Get better at taking it up the ass" still carries risks of STD infection, but does reduce anal fissures; yes, it is a lower risk than running away which might make it tighten up a little bit.
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It was me I did it I'm literally the worst prankster ever.
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It was me I did it I'm literally the worst prankster ever.
The reality of you Niles, is just bullshit. You are no better then the Joe Ricci's and the Semblers, ect...You have a great speech (probably been working on it for weeks) all the bells and whistles about abuse, manipulation, all the wonderful words you have heard here and other places....fucking bla bla bla.
Your a phony all they way down to your core, why??? because of your incessant need to sexually debase Psy, all of your criticism and narcissistic crap is sexually based, you exposed her on a pornographic site. Your a fucking pig. This is what parents want to see, you are asking a audience here to read and accept what you have to say as meritorious. That you have a child's welfare in mind, you look and act like a sexual deviant, Niles.
All of your friends Che, PODK's and the other chicken shit motherfuckers who can not cop to their shit. 99% of you, have never been in a program ( being staff doesn't count, assholes) and are not parents, you have no fucking clue.
You clowns, coming on here acting like you had something to do with the ongoing dilemma she is living along with her parents. Some fucking hero's, you are cheap ignorant mercenaries, you are going to end up killing someone.
This is how you young boys like to have fun, at the expense of a young lady;
(20:58:08) Che_Gookin: she's currently in a brother where she is selling herself to the highest bidder in exchange for tawdry sexual favors.
(20:58:22) Che_Gookin: brother= brothel whoopsie
(21:16:42) Nihilanthic: Che stop fantasizing about Morgan.
I was fakeposting you fucking idiot.
Also all the other shit you've said is bullshit too. I recommend learning to tell sarcasm without having to beg PST9K to do it for you.
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Lol, Danny and your outrage. This is why the majority of the forum passes you off as some sort of stumbling drunk fucking moron who probably can't even tie your own shoe laces. I had nothing to do with Morgan bailing. I actually pointed out to her before she ran that doing so and getting caught ensures her a trip to somewhere worst than Academy at Sisters.
My feeling of this issue have been relayed to both Pile of Dongs and Niles privately. I'm just not taking this thread very seriously as it is mostly venting, bullshit, and posturing.
Have fun with your sound bytes.
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At any rate, if that fails, at least making an attempt to evade a program until 18
For her, evading program wouldn't have meant months. It would have meant years. She would have been caught by then. It would be a guaranteed lockdown for her then. Plus, how would she get an education. Education at programs may generally suck but it's better than nothing.
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She seemed to have been disappeared somewhere since March 2011. Did she end up at a program in the end?
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Testimony from a well-known survivor:
I've thrown pieces of my story around this sub a couple of times, but nothing too memorable, so I'll just leave it short and sweet by saying I had an extremely abusive childhood, coupled with absentee parents, and was eventually put into two separate "troubled youth" facilities - one for 41 days which wasn't bad minus transport and solitary confinement and the other for a year and a handful of months, which was abusive, demeaning, and awful - for running away from home to avoid being sent to a clearly neglected - we took a tour together - facility in my home state for, as my parents stated, "someone to do our parenting for us" - yes, verbatim. I never had a drug problem, never committed any crimes, and was simply trying to take control of my life before they continued to beat me into the ground any further - wouldn't recommend it, but in my situation it was all I could do. I needed something to change.
Anyway, It's been quite some years since I've been in either facility, I'm an adult, I've moved past it - for the most part, some PTSD and anxiety still sticks around but it's nothing I can't live with - and I'm trying to make up for the time I lost. Unfortunately, due to financial hardship, I've had to move back in with my parents temporarily - with someone else, no worries, he keeps me sane - and it's been rocky but bearable. Today, however, my mother brings up that one of the program directors of the abusive facility I attended emailed her to check up the other day, and she was going to forward it to me so I could maybe have a nice chat and give him an update? To which I say - a little rudely, today has been excessively rough for a sea of reasons - "Why on earth would you forward me that? Why in gods name would I want to look back on that time in my life?" She then tries to change my attitude. "Oh brother. Why not start looking at that time as a positive, instead of sitting in self pity?" This has been a constant point of disagreement for us since I left the program. I've taken accountability for the things I did to get myself there - running away isn't acceptable, our lack of communication was all of our faults, etc. - but I refuse to believe that sending me there was the best/their only option. As well, I've gained some knowledge and changed some traits because of my time there, but I refuse to see that experience as a positive. Nothing about what I witnessed there was acceptable, respectful of the clients, or in-line with my morals. I was ripped from my bed in the middle of the night and driven three states away with a single bathroom break, no food, no water, no explanation, and constant bullying from the transporters. I was subjected to cruel and rather unusual methods of punishment, and made to feel like I wasn't a valuable human being - nonetheless a human being. Sure, I graduated high school early, but that's a small upside to the situation overall. Along with that, my parents are now in a pool of debt whilst unemployed because they spent both my and their savings on this place that is admittedly dishonest to potential customers - they'd even have us clients feed hopeful parents stories to keep their interest.
She scoffs at me any time I try and explain to her why I try and ignore that period of my life, and won't look at it as a good thing. Is it just denial, and her trying to feel alright with her decision, or is there just no hope for getting parents to believe the wrongdoings of facilities that convince them their kids are manipulating when they explain the troubles they face from these programs?
tl;dr: went to two programs, try to discuss how awful they were with parents years down the line as an adult, constantly belittled and told i'm dramatizing it. no hope to reach the same page?
She ended up at Eagle Ranch Academy (http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php/Eagle_Ranch_Academy). Every source we could find showed that it was way worse than Academy at Sisters.
This was the result of the attack on her parents in public. She was punished with a boot camp which gave her a rubber diploma she should be lucky to get credits for. I am not stating that she would have loved Academy at Sisters. It is also a for profit place but it would have been easier to get the social services involved.
A better strategy is needed in future cases. The focus must be to attack the facilities, the employees and not least the owners. She is not living a happy life right now.