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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Hyde Schools => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 15, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
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09/29/2005 14:47:54 Subject: Re:Woodstock Sports
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This is posted directly from the Hyde Message Board on Hyde's website. Here is a long time staff member who doesn't know the difference between, "there" and "their." Pretty elementary, right? Point is, this is typical of the quality of Hyde's teachers!
As many posters have been saying,the Hyde education is not up to standards of most schools.
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On the site, each team now has there on page. Check it out: http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?name=Welcome (http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?name=Welcome)§ion=Woodstock
Should be an interesting match up between Bath and Woodstock Varsity Football this year. Both teams are pretty strong.
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Some of the Hyde staff have solid academic credentials. But, during the time our family has been affiliated with the school (we're in our third year) I've been amazed by some of the faculty members' self-disclosure about how poor their own academic records and performance were. I understand the reasons for the self-disclosure: Consistent with the Hyde model the teachers are acknowledging their own past (and sometimes current) struggles. What's sad is that the students end up being taught by some faculty whose academic skills are quite deficient. In seminars I've been startled by examples of poor grammar that come from staff members' mouths. I've read written communications from the school that are just plain embarrassing. This is another example of the significant tradeoffs parents must be willing to accept if they enroll their kids at Hyde.
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On 2005-10-15 06:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Some of the Hyde staff have solid academic credentials. But, during the time our family has been affiliated with the school (we're in our third year) I've been amazed by some of the faculty members' self-disclosure about how poor their own academic records and performance were. I understand the reasons for the self-disclosure: Consistent with the Hyde model the teachers are acknowledging their own past (and sometimes current) struggles. What's sad is that the students end up being taught by some faculty whose academic skills are quite deficient. In seminars I've been startled by examples of poor grammar that come from staff members' mouths. I've read written communications from the school that are just plain embarrassing. This is another example of the significant tradeoffs parents must be willing to accept if they enroll their kids at Hyde. "
"Trade-offs"? What the hell are you talking about? To any NORMAL person, what you've stated would be the reason they PULLED their kid from Hyde.
"Boarding School" my ass.
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On 2005-10-15 07:31:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
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On 2005-10-15 06:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Some of the Hyde staff have solid academic credentials. But, during the time our family has been affiliated with the school (we're in our third year) I've been amazed by some of the faculty members' self-disclosure about how poor their own academic records and performance were. I understand the reasons for the self-disclosure: Consistent with the Hyde model the teachers are acknowledging their own past (and sometimes current) struggles. What's sad is that the students end up being taught by some faculty whose academic skills are quite deficient. In seminars I've been startled by examples of poor grammar that come from staff members' mouths. I've read written communications from the school that are just plain embarrassing. This is another example of the significant tradeoffs parents must be willing to accept if they enroll their kids at Hyde. "
"Trade-offs"? What the hell are you talking about? To any NORMAL person, what you've stated would be the reason they PULLED their kid from Hyde.
"Boarding School" my ass.
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Sorry -- my wording was unclear. I agree with you. What I meant to convey was that any parent who decides to enroll their kid at Hyde should know that the kid will be exposed to this kind of incompetence. As you suggest, no one should be willing to accept this sort of situation.
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Their are many measures to a persons credentials, one of which may or may not be spelling.
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Some of the teachers I had there were decent instructors in the classroom. Some, to put it kindly, were not. As I detailed on another topic, the grading system was unconscionable and hurt students like myself.
But what is really mind-blowing is that these teachers are put in charge of these incredibly intrusive and humiliating "family learning seminars" without having any formal training whatsoever! It's a recipie for disaster - they're not satisfied unless you and your parents are reduced to tears, having exposed something shameful and disturbing about your private life. It's theraputic and educational malpractice at the very least.
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On 2005-11-06 11:59:00, Lars wrote:
"Some of the teachers I had there were decent instructors in the classroom. Some, to put it kindly, were not. As I detailed on another topic, the grading system was unconscionable and hurt students like myself.
But what is really mind-blowing is that these teachers are put in charge of these incredibly intrusive and humiliating "family learning seminars" without having any formal training whatsoever! It's a recipie for disaster - they're not satisfied unless you and your parents are reduced to tears, having exposed something shameful and disturbing about your private life. It's theraputic and educational malpractice at the very least."
I couldn't agree with you more. I'm willing to believe that some Hyde teachers are okay in the classroom (although some are not). But, we were astonished to see some of these folks leading FLC's. They were so unskilled and unable to deal with the raw human emotion, intense exchanges, and incredibly intimate disclosures. Our family witnessed a number of appalling incidents where FLC participants were traumatized by family members' accusations and tirades; the teachers in charge of the seminar hadn't a clue about how to handle these situations. Some of the alumni volunteers were worse.
That's the kind of thing that has led many educational consultants to stay away from Hyde. They realize how dangerous this is. It's amazing to me that Hyde's unconscionable use of teachers to run what amounts to group therapy type sessions hasn't been exposed until now. Fortunately, more and more people are finding out about this.
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Speaking of Hyde's staff . . . I'll never forget one of the FLC's I attended. One of the faculty leaders talked about how he had been a terrible high school student and barely made it through college. Here he was, teaching at Hyde and talking about his very poor academic background and performance. To top it off, many of his sentences contained grammatical errors. This is yet another example, among many, of Hyde's flaws. This teacher may have been well meaning, but there was no way in the world he should have been standing in front of a room teaching high school students. Hyde's academic standards are embarrassing.
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You all are talking about teachers who couldn't teach. What about staff who had NO teaching credentials? When I was there, there were several staff members who were either husbands or wives of teachers, or somehow related to one of the Gaulds. Hyde actually put these people in charge of students with absolutely NO training other than at Hyde. Remember Larry Dubinsky who was fired for sexual harassment? He was in charge of Dean's area where he would ask students to tell him specifics about their sexual experiences!! He had NO teaching degree! Very sad to pay all that money for an education and yet not get much bang for the buck!
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On 2005-11-06 13:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You all are talking about teachers who couldn't teach. What about staff who had NO teaching credentials? When I was there, there were several staff members who were either husbands or wives of teachers, or somehow related to one of the Gaulds. Hyde actually put these people in charge of students with absolutely NO training other than at Hyde. Remember Larry Dubinsky who was fired for sexual harassment? He was in charge of Dean's area where he would ask students to tell him specifics about their sexual experiences!! He had NO teaching degree! Very sad to pay all that money for an education and yet not get much bang for the buck!"
You're right about the quality of a number of Hyde's staff. I met quite a few who had weak academic backgounds and/or were relatives of the Gauld family or other faculty/staff members. It's well known that there's a rather incestuous quality to the Hyde staff. One result of this sort of inbreeding is that one ends up with a group of faculty and staff who reinforce each other's points, bow to Joe Gauld, and circle the wagons when there is serious criticism from the outside. Those are typical cult qualities.
I recently read that article by Traub, who hit the nail on the head: Academics take a back seat at Hyde and the school indeed has a cult-like quality. For those who missed it, here's the article: http://www.educationnext.org/20051/22.html (http://www.educationnext.org/20051/22.html)
Any parent who has even a moment's thought of sending their kid to Hyde should read Traub's article and comb through this and other websites where people are finally speaking out about Hyde.
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With any private school, faculty are not required to get education degrees. With many schools, they base academic credibility on their performances in college, pairing Biology majors with science classes, etc. Regardless of whether or not a teacher has had training in education, it takes a long time for a teacher to develop the craft of teaching. If you want to improve the quality of teaching at any institution, find a way to keep teachers there.
At Hyde, it's no different. Maybe more pressure should be put on the school to train their new teachers or to hire more experienced faculty members. However, teachers everywhere are becoming more discgruntled these days due to low pay, bigger classes, less respectful students and most importantly, parents who constantly intervene on behalf of their kids and prevent teachers from failing anyone. I am so glad I don't teach and have total respect for anyone who would these days.
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Hyde staff members consist of high quality, upstanding, intelligent individuals, I can assure you that ...
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On 2005-12-09 12:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hyde staff members consist of high quality, upstanding, intelligent individuals, I can assure you that ..."
And which campus do you teach at?
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On 2005-12-09 13:54:00, Lars wrote:
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On 2005-12-09 12:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hyde staff members consist of high quality, upstanding, intelligent individuals, I can assure you that ..."
And which campus do you teach at?"
Not a teacher, but a student! Hyde rocks!!
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Hyde rocks!!"
Glad you like it, but I respectfully disagree. Unless they've seriously upgraded the academics since I was there, it's a third rate education.
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On 2005-12-09 14:05:00, Lars wrote:
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Hyde rocks!!"
Glad you like it, but I respectfully disagree. Unless they've seriously upgraded the academics since I was there, it's a third rate education."
It's much better now, better than ever! Sorry you had such a miserable time, are you a weak person? No offense.
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Weak? My adversaries in the courtroom wouldn't say so. :wink:
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Oh, a lawyer..Im sorry to hear that. :lol:
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Go back to class. This is silly.
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Yeah, I know. I come from a family full of doctors and the lawyer jokes just keep coming. :razz: But as they say there, it's my unique potential.
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On 2005-12-09 14:41:00, Lars wrote:
"Yeah, I know. I come from a family full of doctors and the lawyer jokes just keep coming. :razz: But as they say there, it's my unique potential."
Your so cool :lol:
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Can we please stop being rude to one another..Lars is always respectful to others, please knock it off..
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On 2005-12-09 12:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hyde staff members consist of high quality, upstanding, intelligent individuals, I can assure you that ..."
Are you on drugs? This is not only a lie, it is so far out there from the truth it isn't funny!
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On 2005-12-09 14:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-09 12:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hyde staff members consist of high quality, upstanding, intelligent individuals, I can assure you that ..."
Are you on drugs? This is not only a lie, it is so far out there from the truth it isn't funny!"
Yea I'm on drugs, want some? God you people are stupid. Hyde is not that bad, get over it..
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Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.
It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
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IS VERY LOW...
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Is extremely high! :wave:
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On 2005-12-10 12:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Is extremely high! :wave: "
No, but you are. :lol:
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As a former Hyde student I can say that many of the faculty members are former students. Many of these people cannot cut it in the real world, so stay in this isolated cult like environment. Honestly when i was there it seemed that these faculty members were more messed up than the students. How can these people help students when they can't even help themselves? If this school wants a better reputation they need to hire some people that have psychology degrees, not former students. I doubt they ever will though, because any doctor would see that this is a very sick environment.
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On 2005-12-11 18:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"As a former Hyde student I can say that many of the faculty members are former students. Many of these people cannot cut it in the real world, so stay in this isolated cult like environment. Honestly when i was there it seemed that these faculty members were more messed up than the students. How can these people help students when they can't even help themselves? If this school wants a better reputation they need to hire some people that have psychology degrees, not former students. I doubt they ever will though, because any doctor would see that this is a very sick environment."
I agree. The pervasive incest at Hyde (staff who are married to each other, related to the Gauld family, former students who are "married" to Hyde) is remarkable. No wonder Hyde seems impervious to outside criticism. This is a bizarre environment. no wonder so many refer to Hyde as a cult.
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On 2005-12-11 18:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"As a former Hyde student I can say that many of the faculty members are former students. Many of these people cannot cut it in the real world, so stay in this isolated cult like environment. Honestly when i was there it seemed that these faculty members were more messed up than the students. How can these people help students when they can't even help themselves? If this school wants a better reputation they need to hire some people that have psychology degrees, not former students. I doubt they ever will though, because any doctor would see that this is a very sick environment."
This is absolutely correct. Hyde only seems to attract former students and parents for teaching or staff positions. If they are fortunate to attract a well educated teacher, they are usually gone within a year! No one with intelligence sticks around Hyde nor will they make waves because they need Hyde as a reference for future jobs. This is why you don't see many former teachers speaking out, but believe me I have talked to plenty who felt Hyde was a very harmful place.
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Hyde is a fucking CULT..It's sick, twisted , and bizzare..It should be shut down FOREVER.
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You WILL NOT win..
I CAN NOT lose..
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Nobody gets out alive
PICK UP THE GUN
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On 2005-12-14 12:41:00, Hyde's Attorney wrote:
"You WILL NOT win..
I CAN NOT lose.."
If you're an attorney, then I'm Sandra Day O'Connor! :lol:
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Hi Sandra! :wave:
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On 2005-12-14 12:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hyde is a fucking CULT..It's sick, twisted , and bizzare..It should be shut down FOREVER."
I disagree, but I admire your will to tear the place down...NEVER GONNA HAPPEN, can you folks give it a rest?
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On 2005-12-14 18:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hi Sandra! :wave: "
Who is this guy who says he is Hyde's attorney? From what I have read, the only person posting on this board who is actually a lawyer is this guy named Lars out in AZ. He seems very intelligent. The guy who says he's Hyde's attorney acts like a jerk and sounds like an idiot. Anyone know about this?
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On 2005-12-14 19:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-14 18:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hi Sandra! :wave: "
Who is this guy who says he is Hyde's attorney? From what I have read, the only person posting on this board who is actually a lawyer is this guy named Lars out in AZ. He seems very intelligent. The guy who says he's Hyde's attorney acts like a jerk and sounds like an idiot. Anyone know about this?"
Shut up you blabbering fucking buffoon.
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Falling is easy
It's getting back up that becomes the problem
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Shut up you blabbering fucking buffoon."
Classy! ::troll::
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On 2005-12-14 19:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Shut up you blabbering fucking buffoon."
Classy! ::troll:: "
Suck it
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Suck it "
Must be a faculty member or one of those seniors who LOVES proctoring 2-4 & making kids do jumping jacks until they puke at 5:30 in the morning
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On 2005-12-15 11:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Suck it "
Must be a faculty member or one of those seniors who LOVES proctoring 2-4 & making kids do jumping jacks until they puke at 5:30 in the morning"
You are correct
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I am one of the two, not stating which
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On 2005-12-15 12:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am one of the two, not stating which"
That's certainly understandable.
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On 2005-12-15 12:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-15 12:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am one of the two, not stating which"
That's certainly understandable."
How did you know, my kind asshole friend?
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Reminds me. My mom, when she was upset about something, used to absolutely shrill "what's the matter with you?!" She did that for about 22 years that I know of. Then I found the answer. "Poor potty training?" Never heard it again. `Course, she had quit attending Program functions some time prior to that.
He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.
James Burgh 1774
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On 2005-12-15 14:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-15 12:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-15 12:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am one of the two, not stating which"
That's certainly understandable."
How did you know, my kind asshole friend?"
I read this board carefully. It wasn't too hard to figure out.
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The prophets of God have left you solaced indeed
A zombie of Jesus insane with his belief
Is all that you know and all you take as you go
You?re one with the rich and only take from the poor
Nailed to the cross by your hands and your feet
Your washed up religion is now worthless and weak
Tenacious conviction has caught up with your soul
There?s no place for mercy in the myths of your lord
Little lamb of sacrifice, full of Bible hymns
Hiding in the house of God, from his suffering
Pray the son will come and call just to make us dead
Bring upon the end of times?worship if you dare
Wiping out masses just for shits and a grin
Is all an illusion of the spell that you?re in
Religious confliction has impaired your control
In his resurrection, revelations unfold
He is you the sacrifice, in the house of bless
Crucify yourself to death just to get to him
Die?. will you?.
Annihilation by the hands of God
Mutilate me?.
Annihilation by the hands of God
Unforgiving?.
Annihilation by the hands of God
Christ ill willing?.
Annihilation by the hands of God
Heaven hates you?.
When it?s time, I won?t look back
Heaven?s gates under attack
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It’s a circus of incompetence, malfeasance, predators, profit-motivated by the Gaulds at the top who get paid (Malcolm and laura) $500k combined a year while paying faculty low pay, and a program that doesn’t seem to demand accredited teachers nor mental health professionals. Such a shit show.