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Deb:

Exactly they lied about things - they are going to go in officially again, my first program unlicensed to go after was DeSisto and well you know that story they were ordered by the courts to license, couldn't handle the "right thing to do" packed up and left - and yes are in FLA under a different name, still same people where in FLA they just don't care.  ASR is next on my list one at a time, these things cost the state a large amount of money, and the programs fight it to the hilt, I just can't understand how anyone can open their doors and do what they do and not want to adhere to oversight, standards, and support.  You would think if they were the best they could be this would not be an issue.   And the fight goes on...  Hey no transporters are licensed to do business in MA that I can find and won't be if we keep up the fight as a matter of fact if I find out a transporter enters this state to remove a kid, I will report the parents and the transporter to the Child Welfare Agency.

Listen I can't cut a quote and say what I need to say on the same thing - I will learn in the meantime again in CAPS.  ASR WAS NOT REQUIRED TO LICENSE BECAUSE THEY LIED ABOUT THE TYPE OF KIDS THAT WERE THERE, AND YES I AM ON TOP OF THIS WITH THE LICENSING AGENCY.  HEY DUMMY WHO CLAIMS TO WORK THERE THEIR IS NO MA ASSOCIATIONS OF BOARDING SCHOOLS - AND NO ASSOCIATION SETS STANDARDS, REGULATES, AND OVERSEES SO GET WITH THE PROGRAM.  SCARES ME YOU CLAIM TO WORK WITH THIS VERY POPULATION AND STATE SUCH IDIOTIC THINGS OR EVEN MORE SO MAY BELIEVE THEM.  WAKE UP!  ASSOCIATION - PAY DUES, MEMBERS, ETC.  OCCS IS NO LONGER IT IS AFFILIATED WITH EEC I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION NOW TO GO BACK TO THE STATE - WHAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT PISSES ME OFF MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THAT THEY REFUSE TO LICENSE, DESISTO DID THE SAME THING, IF ASR IS FINE AND DOES WHAT THEY SAY THEY DO THEN JUST LICENSE.  AS FAR AS LICENSING INSURING ANYTHING NO IT DOES NOT EVER - WHAT IT DOES INSURE THOUGH IS OVERSIGHT, REGULATIONS, AND THAT SOMEONE HAS SOMEPLACE TO GO TO FILE A COMPLAINT THAT WILL BE INVESTIGATED, AND ACTED UPON - RIGHT NOW ASR HAS NO OVERSIGHT AND PARENTS ONLY HAVE WHAT ASR SAYS TO RELY ON.  SICK HUH BUT TRUE!  BE CAREFUL BE REAL CAREFUL - SECONDLY IT IS NOT UP TO THE PARENTS TO LICENSE IT IS UP TO THE SCHOOL ITSELF.  I AM REALLY GETTING SICK OF HAVING TO SAY THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN - ASR KNOWS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO - THEY CHOOSE NOT TO AND HIDE BEHIND THE KIDS THEY HAVE AS THEY ARE THEIR WITH NO IEPS OR DOCUMENTATION OF THEIR SPECIAL NEEDS IN SOME CASES.

MY TAKE AND I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY PUBLIC ABOUT THIS IF YOU ARE GOING TO OPERATE OR EVEN ARE THINKING ABOUT IT IN MA LICENSE OR LEAVE. :wave:

ASR was NEVER licensed and folks their is NO MA Boarding School Association that I know of.  ASR IS NOT AND SHOULD BE LICENSED, WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG THAT THE THREAD HAS TO GO ON AND ON AND ON.  IF THEY WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING OR INTENDING ON DOING IT THEY WOULD LICENSE.  NO BIG DEAL RIGHT?  DESISTO DIDN'T WANT TO LICENSE LOST IN COURT - COULDN'T HANDLE BASIC BASIC REGULATIONS, STANDARD, AND OVERSIGHT PACKED UP = LEFT AND IS RUNNING IN FLA WHERE LITTLE IF ANY REGS OR OVERSIGHT IS IN PLACE.  SO DO TELL ME EXPECT LOCATION AND PEOPLE, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASR AND DESISTO - I THINK NOT MUCH.   :flame:

JRC sued the state of MA years ago and won - they sue everyone, this is a tricky situation.  What is most sickest about this is parents who do send their kids there are so desperate - look at their site - very impressive, those who don't know better well or of other alternatives.  People are fighting this day and night all over the place.

Will not take a child in unless they agree as well to participate in the treatment.

Hello -

Although people do not like the fact that programs are even in exhistance - the fact is they are.  I am drafting a letter in the next week to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts EEC which is the licensing agency for all Residential and Group Care Facilitie in MA.  I did this with Desisto after going to Court - etc. they were forced to license and instead of meeting standards chose to pack up and leave.  I strongly feel that ASW meets the standards of having to license and meet standards.  The problem I have is that I am seeking more evidence of this - they do administer restraint, medication, and take kids with special education needs as well.  Alot of these kids are not publically funded where the statistics are not then available under the Freedom of Information Act.  

If anyone has any information (substantial) regarding this program please email me directly at [email protected] with ASR in subject tag if you are a former student or parent with your name and dates you were or your child was there please and let me know if you or your child was:
On Medication while there, receiving Special Education Services, Restrained (if so type of method and by who staff other residents etc.), or anything relevent.  Aslo if you had or your child has or had a diagnoses while there - under EEC definitions it is clear that Special Needs is a much broader definition than in education.  

The bottom line is they are there, staying open, taking kids in and providing care 24 hours a day for these young people and should have to meet standards and have oversight as well. I am looking for clear evidence that the kids there or who have gone (the past maybe 3 - 5 years) meet the definition of Special Needs under EEC Regulations so they will have to license and meet standards at least - health, welfare, safety and appropriate service delivery are a priority if these places are to be in business.

I thank you in advance.  

Andrea

I was contacted today by a reputable major magazine doing a story on the troubled teen industry a buyer beware they are looking for a parent who had a child in a wilderness program and had a horrific experience, with had they had the knowledge of rights, licensing, etc. would have made a different choice.  Please email me directly at [email protected] with contact information.
Andrea

I am back on this!  Working with these people as they have the clout to make change and more lobby and verasity than the industry.  Actually I never left this cause.