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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Paul St. John on October 06, 2011, 01:00:37 PM
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Now, I know.. I know.. some very sensible people are probably thinking me dumb for feeding into this shit, but I would like to understand what is going on.. AND I really don t feel like sifting through over a hundred pieces of bullshit to figure it out..
Wayne, if you care to respond-
What are you actually accusing Danny of? ( I know it has something to do with sex... and I think taht there are a few different things...
Please , Wayne don t go into a whole big spiel....
I am accusing danny of:
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After you have managed to list them, I am curious, if you have any proof, other then your own word... Again simple..
My proof for 1. is a. , b. c. etc.
Real proof please.. Not a bunch of bullshit....
Now, if you were sexually abused or know about such things occurring, I understand that it is a ver sensitive issue, and very painful to deal with, so I don t mean to be treating you like the criminal, but the burden of proof is always on the accuser, and at least - with me, if you want to be taken seriously, you are going to have to prove your case.
At this point in time, I am leaning towards thinking that it did not happen. However, I am not certain of this. I have lived long enough to know, that when it comes to sexual abuse, it is very the people very least expect, so why not Danny then? I mean- church-goers, neighborhood benefactors.. school teachers.. you name it.. and none of their freinds and loved ones can ever believe it. That is trhe only reason, I am considerring it as possible, and because if that did happen to you, I feel for ya.
I have to say, to me this is a pretty big deal.. One one hand, if Danny did it, he is a sick fuck.. and you are surely a victim... On the other hand, if he did not, you are ripping a man's reputation to shreds, and you are a sick fuck, or maybe even just mistaken.... Your books seemed so credible when I read it, and yet for some reason, I am leaning towards believing Danny.
Paul St. John
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This Wayne K. person spammed reddit with his accusations. They're none of my business. But out of morbid curiosity I wonder: can anyone provide proof W.K. was even at Elan? His story reads as entirely or partially fabricated...
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You were ashamed? it didn't take you 5 min. into you radio show to blurt out that you were raped by your shrink. Anybody else rape you mr.pan?You are completely full of shit!
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I believe you. I had a hard time believing it at first, but now it makes sense. The rumor about having sex with residents was true
Nunez, you're starting to really sound like Danny
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If you think I'm lying,you didn't listen to the show!
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Wayne Kernochan....looks to be a con artist. None of my business, assuredly. But, pretty horrible to witness the destruction of someone's reputation, nonetheless.
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Wayne Kernochan Joined: July 24th, 2010, 4:56 am
Re: Lies Told by (Wayne K) that went Awry of Elan!
Postby DannyB II » Yesterday, 9:30 pm Here is some interesting PM Wayne sent here. I think they speak for themselves. I can't make this shit up.
Re: Wayne
Sent: September 19th, 2011, 10:38 am From: Wayne Kernochan To: DannyB II
I don't mind that you're writing a book, what made me suspicious is that you didn't ask me to write it. I have news for you, Go Go Rach is in with the self publishing people on my Face Book page, she never would have gotten you published, I would have
Program people will never let you out from under this shit, but there's the other 99.99% of the world to consider. Lets erase the shit from fornits and start over. But, let's not friend each other right away.
Send me what you have from before you went to Elan. I'll give you a first chapter that you'll like. I'll even (as a ghost writer) discredit my own book.
I'm editing the next book for my publisher, then if you want, I'll write a book about you that will make these people understand what really happened
You're famous for all the wrong reasons. I can fix that. I'm good at this. I'll friend you after it's on Amazon and B&N. I can't guarantee people will buy it, but I think they will.
I want whatever you gave Rach for this. I'm not a crack head and I need help, if you want to be friends, help me, I'm not these things you think I am. I am worth helping out
I'll call you tomorrow morning if you're inclined to do this. Its not a game, I have a lot to lose if I did something hurtful. Writing is all I care about right now, I wouldn't jeopardize my reputation for money.
Wayne ?June 22Danny Bennison Your Book I don't mind you promoting it on our site, Wayne. Really!! It may make you feel uncomfortable and I have thought of this. But I have really put some brain into this and I keep coming up with that if we are to reconcile then we must first acknowledge together the truth. I just wanted to put this out there for some careful consideration. Your friend Danny
Re: Wayne
Sent: September 19th, 2011, 4:17 pm From: Wayne Kernochan To: DannyB II Your biggest mistake is that you think I'm trying to hurt you. I get angry and say fucked up things, but I've apologized and tried to be a good friend.
Listen, if you tell the world I'm writing your book these people will do everything possible to ruin it. They will succeed because we know how to push each others buttons, and we're dirty motherfuckers when we want our way.
My wife just told me at the dentist's office that she thinks a book about you would be a big seller. I'm intrigued by the idea. You can put my name on the cover for all I care, I just don't need the bullshit while I write, and there will be bullshit
All the things you said in your post can be written in. I have no doubt that you're not this angry guy on the internet, but Go Go was right to say "Stay away from the internet"
BTW, reread that Dingbattery thread and you'll see I didn't say anything bad about you, I wasn't making a joke at your expense, the girl asked if the picture was me. Your message came out of left field and it hurt me. I didn't do anything wrong
And, since you can't read between the lines, it bothered me that you asked someone else and not me to help you write it
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I don't believe or disbelieve Wayne. I'm very open to hearing what he has to say about it. The same holds true for Danny as well.
Well to be honest I don't give a fuck what Danny has to say.
So yeah, I'll listen to Wayne, weigh his information based on the merits of it and make an informed decision. Is it implausible that a staff member like danny raped several residents in a place like Elan?
I have no reason not to believe it is implausible. Given the horrific lack of oversight and covering up of abuse in the place.... it seems like Elan would be a breeding ground for sexual abuse.
Now is Danny one of the former staffers who was out raping kids in his care?
Hell if I know, that's up to Wayne to prove. From what I'm gathering he's out scoring more evidence off others, that will tell the tale. I do find it interesting that Danny is blathering away on fornits in yet another ID.
Wayne I hope to fuck if any of your witnesses were under 16 that you get it reported. No statute of limitation in Maine on rape for under the age of 16 in Maine. At the very least get this entered into public record even if the DA won't go forward with it.
Danny can go suck a barrel of cocks.
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I don't believe or disbelieve Wayne. I'm very open to hearing what he has to say about it. The same holds true for Danny as well.
Well to be honest I don't give a fuck what Danny has to say.
So yeah, I'll listen to Wayne, weigh his information based on the merits of it and make an informed decision. Is it implausible that a staff member like danny raped several residents in a place like Elan?
I have no reason not to believe it is implausible. Given the horrific lack of oversight and covering up of abuse in the place.... it seems like Elan would be a breeding ground for sexual abuse.
Now is Danny one of the former staffers who was out raping kids in his care?
Hell if I know, that's up to Wayne to prove. From what I'm gathering he's out scoring more evidence off others, that will tell the tale. I do find it interesting that Danny is blathering away on fornits in yet another ID.
Wayne I hope to fuck if any of your witnesses were under 16 that you get it reported. No statute of limitation in Maine on rape for under the age of 16 in Maine. At the very least get this entered into public record even if the DA won't go forward with it.
Danny can go suck a barrel of cocks.
So you are working with a reputable organization called CAFETY (Aaron Seymour aka Che) https://www.facebook.com/groups/cafetycrew/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/cafetycrew/) you are a administrator on one of there sites. CAFETY stands for Community Alliance For The Ethical Treatment Of Youths.
You come on here and you harass and humiliate a survivor who spent 11 years in and out of institutions from 8 yrs old till 19 being used and abused by the care givers I was left with. I was a child at 17 when I began my so called employment.
Aaron you should know more about the subject of being Staff since you worked for one of the largest and most successful programs in America Eckard. You went to college and then perused a career working in the TTI as a staff member. You then went on to recruit your younger brother (who he himself was in a Treatment program) upon getting out went to college got a education and with your advice went to work for the same program you were working for Eckard.
You should know a lot about employees taking advantage of children from your history of employment.
I would suggest that you act a bit differently then you have done here (fornits) in the past. Because all your comments will follow you. Whether you like it or not you are representing a organization that wants representation in the halls of DC, they want to be respectful and be considered respected.
Part of the problem in the past were people like yourself, you are a idiot that only thinks for himself (selfish) so long as you can act bullish and profane you were happy. Well guess what pal, picking on a survivor with a history like mine will not get you or any organization you are affiliated with any where. Trust me on that.
So why don't you calm down with the I hate Danny speech. We got it, it was impressive the first time we heard it a year ago now you are just being a jerk.
I hope Wayne K. (or who ever he/she is) does move forward with these claims because it all goes toward intent. Everything this guy has done to me for the past 3-4 weeks has all gone to his intent. All these sock puppets when they are subpenaed (the usernames and the IP addresses) the name behind them will go towards intent. His radio broadcast goes towards intent.
Wayne K (or whoever it is) has so fucked them self it really isn't funny anymore.
Like I said it just keeps giving.
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I don't believe or disbelieve Wayne. I'm very open to hearing what he has to say about it. The same holds true for Danny as well.
Well to be honest I don't give a fuck what Danny has to say.
So yeah, I'll listen to Wayne, weigh his information based on the merits of it and make an informed decision. Is it implausible that a staff member like danny raped several residents in a place like Elan?
I have no reason not to believe it is implausible. Given the horrific lack of oversight and covering up of abuse in the place.... it seems like Elan would be a breeding ground for sexual abuse.
Now is Danny one of the former staffers who was out raping kids in his care?
Hell if I know, that's up to Wayne to prove. From what I'm gathering he's out scoring more evidence off others, that will tell the tale. I do find it interesting that Danny is blathering away on fornits in yet another ID.
Wayne I hope to fuck if any of your witnesses were under 16 that you get it reported. No statute of limitation in Maine on rape for under the age of 16 in Maine. At the very least get this entered into public record even if the DA won't go forward with it.
Danny can go suck a barrel of cocks.
So you are working with a reputable organization called CAFETY (Aaron Seymour aka Che) https://www.facebook.com/groups/cafetycrew/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/cafetycrew/) you are a administrator on one of there sites. CAFETY stands for Community Alliance For The Ethical Treatment Of Youths.
You come on here and you harass and humiliate a survivor who spent 11 years in and out of institutions from 8 yrs old till 19 being used and abused by the care givers I was left with. I was a child at 17 when I began my so called employment.
Aaron you should know more about the subject of being Staff since you worked for one of the largest and most successful programs in America Eckard. You went to college and then perused a career working in the TTI as a staff member. You then went on to recruit your younger brother (who he himself was in a Treatment program) upon getting out went to college got a education and with your advice went to work for the same program you were working for Eckard.
You should know a lot about employees taking advantage of children from your history of employment.
I would suggest that you act a bit differently then you have done here (fornits) in the past. Because all your comments will follow you. Whether you like it or not you are representing a organization that wants representation in the halls of DC, they want to be respectful and be considered respected.
Part of the problem in the past were people like yourself, you are a idiot that only thinks for himself (selfish) so long as you can act bullish and profane you were happy. Well guess what pal, picking on a survivor with a history like mine will not get you or any organization you are affiliated with any where. Trust me on that.
So why don't you calm down with the I hate Danny speech. We got it, it was impressive the first time we heard it a year ago now you are just being a jerk.
I hope Wayne K. (or who ever he/she is) does move forward with these claims because it all goes toward intent. Everything this guy has done to me for the past 3-4 weeks has all gone to his intent. All these sock puppets when they are subpenaed (the usernames and the IP addresses) the name behind them will go towards intent. His radio broadcast goes towards intent.
Wayne K (or whoever it is) has so fucked them self it really isn't funny anymore.
Like I said it just keeps giving.
That should be fun. You do know they'll subpoena both of you?
I want to know if you're Nunez
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I haven't been posting here, but I have been reading. I'll make the exception because it's you asking the question Paul
First, I knew people weren't going to believe me when I said this. That made it harder to say. I've been instructed not to engage Danny, so when he posts here I can't reply to any questions, so I'll be clear. Every word of what I said is true. I didn't put it in the book because I was ashamed. I also knew how he was going to react. When he realized who I was on the phone he became evil. All those posts about my ass and stripping me naked, and shooting my load were to bully me into not saying it. I knew he was going to attack my sexuality and blame the victim. As he did with the sexual fantasy post he started
Read the first post in the thread I started. It will take you 15 minutes. He admitted to it with Yvette.
I don't misunderstand your doubt, but keep your mind open. If someone accused me of this I'd have called the police. He's afraid of an investigation. He's guilty
No Wayne I am not afraid of a investigation I want one more then you think. I am even willing to hire the Police force, FBI, Private Investigators ect....to do it. I would hire a law firm to thoroughly investigate on my dime. There is nothing for me to be afraid of.
You aren't ashamed of anything. Can you even remember how you started this tantrum of yours. What you were saying 3 weeks ago and what you are saying now. You keep trying to confuse the readers here but I have it in sequence or better yet I chronicle everything you said. We all knew you were going to pull this shit of running around saying all these different things to get peoples attention off the rebuttal of the Book.
See Wayne (or whoever it is) every claim you have made you have just said it with no proof. You are under the assumption if I say it enough the thought will settle in peoples minds. I would agree when it comes to lazy (I will not investigate anything Elanians and people like Aaron who just hate) but for people such as most here on fornits we do investigate. Paul St.John investiagtes, None Ya investigates we investigate.
Wayne I have a quote from you dating back to 2003, it has been verified it was you and who you were talking to verified this. It was right out in the open. People need to investiagte.
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That should be fun. You do know they'll subpoena both of you?
WoW you really are brilliant sometimes. Don't you get it I am looking forward to it, I have nothing to hide.
I want to know if you're Nunez
I'm sure you do... ::) ::)
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You keep confusing me with Wayne. This is my only profile here. Come out of your world for a second and look at what you're being accused of. You don't hire police Danny, they're there to call. So are lawyers. I've asked you four times now, why haven't you hired a lawyer?
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I'd also like to know if deleted posts will be brought in as evidence. I have the one you deleted when you weren't sure if I was Yvette or not.
In that one you accused me of being Joicylyn
The line about men jerking off was particularly crass
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You keep confusing me with Wayne. This is my only profile here. Come out of your world for a second and look at what you're being accused of. You don't hire police Danny, they're there to call. So are lawyers. I've asked you four times now, why haven't you hired a lawyer?
You are not that smart are ya. Most of your private investigators are ex cops and cops working on the side. So yes I can hire the police to investigate.
Who cares how many times you have asked.
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I'd also like to know if deleted posts will be brought in as evidence. I have the one you deleted when you weren't sure if I was Yvette or not.
In that one you accused me of being Joicylyn
The line about men jerking off was particularly crass
Why don't you post that deleted post right here or as usual you talk big shit but can not produce anything.
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Danny's aggressive nature really does seem to point towards the increasing likelihood that he sexually assaulted young men and women in his care. That's entirely speculative though and one hopes that any real evidence turned up is submitted to the proper authorities in Maine.
Danny you really ought to sit down, shut up, and get a fucking lawyer. This is one of those things that is going to haunt you forever and a day if you don't get a handle on quickly and quietly.
So why don't you go put your money in your lawyer's mouth and stop coming across as a lunatic on these forums.
Only advice I have for you.
Glad I'm not in your pickle or had your pickle anywhere near me.
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You are not that smart are ya. Most of your private investigators are ex cops and cops working on the side. So yes I can hire the police to investigate.
I'm smart enough to know that this super secret group of active and retired CIA FBI and ninja squirrels are moving a little slow. A two bit lawyer would have had all of these accusations removed from the internet already. Or is it to your advantage to have them up somehow?
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We called you Danny "fucking" Bennison. We called you it when you worked at E-7 behind your back. You wanted to be like Marty so bad. It was ridiculous. You even did that deep voice thing he did to make his scarier points
I saw your message to Juan Ferreria Danny
You haven't changed
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I knew when you had strength positions in the house that you were going to make the Kool Aid some day. You were perfect staff material. You were forced to resign (fired) and I always wondered what you did that no other staff member did. I believed the other rumor then and I believe it now. No one was ever fired from Elan for being physically abusive.
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Danny's aggressive nature really does seem to point towards the increasing likelihood that he sexually assaulted young men and women in his care. That's entirely speculative though and one hopes that any real evidence turned up is submitted to the proper authorities in Maine.
Danny you really ought to sit down, shut up, and get a fucking lawyer. This is one of those things that is going to haunt you forever and a day if you don't get a handle on quickly and quietly.
So why don't you go put your money in your lawyer's mouth and stop coming across as a lunatic on these forums.
Only advice I have for you.
Glad I'm not in your pickle or had your pickle anywhere near me.
Aaron Seymour,
Many of us have noticed this continued vacillating from you concerning Wayne, one day on Reddit your kicking his ass and calling him names then CAFETY calls and you go into cover your ass mode. What did Kathrine Whitehead from CAFETY along with Ricky Linder do to you, pressure you into taking up for Wayne since he is working on projects for CAFETY and CAFETY is recieving money from the sales of his book. Maybe it was Siobhan Patricia Lynch and her inexperienced psychological breakdown of Wayne over lunch last Saturday or maybe it was when Wayne was licking her ass when he cleaned her apartment to gain acceptance and recognition.
Let me show you some emails from your distinguished new leader Ricky Linder CAFETY, Lets see what you think of his manipulative tactics concerning Wayne.
Pm's on Facebook
This was a conversation as of Sept. 11th 2011:
September 11
Ricky Linder
what's going on with wayne? I need more data as quick as you can. Is there a possibility Wayne's profile was hacked or are you two actually feuding? Thanks!
September 11
Danny Bennison
Errr....what about me is that important.
September 11
Ricky Linder
i dunno, it's just he's freaking out and I'm wondering if he has been hacked
that's the main thing
he's acting unlike his usual self
September 11
Danny Bennison
Listen you really have to ask him.
September 11
Ricky Linder
all right
September 11
Danny Bennison
We are fighting, Alexei has already decided to take sides.
I just wish every one would mind there own business buit that isn't possible because Wayne needs to drag our business all over town.
September 11
Ricky Linder
oh, i see
yes that bothers me
the problem is that he is issuing ultimatums, and it's really irritating because i'm working on a project with him.
September 11
Danny Bennison
What are his ultimatums disown Danny or I will not work with you.
September 11
Ricky Linder
please keep this conversation to yourself, OK?
i don't want to piss him off
but yes
Danny Bennison
I will absolutely, I know how to keep things private.
September 11
Ricky Linder
the terms are defriend or i'll defriend you (nothing personal, he says)
but it's very inconvenient
i know nothing about the situation but you have been good to me
i think he is also demanding we leave the group (equally inconvenient)
September 11
Danny Bennison
Well isn't that something. His tantrums are legendary. You know why he wants this so he can control. You have to ask yourself a question I guess.
September 11
Ricky Linder
the problem is he's working with me on a website. honestly the ultimatum just pisses me off.
September 11
Danny Bennison
This is Wayne when he wants his way. He really thinks this is a suitable request he has no idea how many boundaries he crosses asking someone to do this.
I will always be respectful of you Ricky you are one of the good guys here with a stable personality.
September 11
Ricky Linder
thank you :)
here's what i'm going to do
Getting this website up and running should take 2 to 4 weeks
I NEED wayne for that amount of time
Feel free to keep in contact during that period and I will temporarily leave the group and "defriend" you.
then after the website is complete I will rejoin the group.
As for refriending, I am happy to do so if there is good cause, but if it will keep waves from being made and we can just contact through PM perhaps that would be easiest?
If there is a good reason to "re-friend" in which case I will just do that. What do you think?
You can also join me on google+ and have my email
September 11
Danny Bennison
You have got to be kidding me. Listen I don't need this nor want anything to do with this.
Wayne will take this and use it to paint a very ugly picture. I need people like you top stand up for what you beleive for christ sake,
September 11
Ricky Linder
I see
I wasn't trying to offend, it was just an idea
but I was hoping I could at least hold off on pissing him off until the website is done
it's a really important project
September 11
Danny Bennison
I am not offended so much as shocked I guess.
September 11
Ricky Linder
OK
well I won't do that then
he will have to deal with it
unless i learn something i haven't learned yet, and I don't expect that
September 11
Danny Bennison
What are you supposed to learn. Wayne and I are fighting about the credibility of the book and our relationship.
September 11
Ricky Linder
i would imagine there's nothing to learn
I just haven't heard much of anything yet
i didn't even know the nature of the conflict only that there was an ultimatum.
September 11
Danny Bennison
You can read it on fornits and what ever other sites he is dragging into this. He is on the war path.
September 11
Ricky Linder
please please don't take anything i'm saying the wrong way, i'm just covering my bases, trying to understand and figure out how to perform damage control. Another critical component is that I'm with CAFETY now, I can't go getting myself in trouble either. I'm just trying to figure out what to do because I haven't got any issue with anyone.
September 11
Ricky Linder
I'm sorry i came off the wrong way
September 11
Danny Bennison
Ricky I understand you are anxious and want to complete the site.
September 11
Ricky Linder
thanks for your understanding. I'm also afraid because Falcon Wings is my only other real partner in this and if I lose her because of Wayne I'm in trouble. They are two of my best contacts, it would really cause my network to fall apart if I lose both of them--it's bigger than the website.
Whatever faults they have they are active and useful.
September 11
Ricky Linder
shit Kat is calling me
we will keep talking
later
i'm so sorry
September 11
Danny Bennison
I am not saying they have faults cause we all do. Have Falcon contact me, please. So we can talk.
September 11
Danny Bennison
You are a real piece of work. Good luck!!
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Aaron, I could care a less what CAFETY, REDDIT or any other organization or people think of what these stupid remarks and the impact they could have on me (in reality nothing is going to happen because nothing happened). You actually did us all a big favor along with CAFETY / Ricky Linder by hitching your wagon to this guy.
Aaron what you have done by your insufferable ignorance of all the facts is tie CAFETY into a circus they ultimately would not have wanted to be in.
You did this here on multiple occasions with CALO and other programs. You ruined any chance anybody had to gain access to possible changes.
I thank you so much for your aggressive behavior, your bulling of survivors and letting everyone know that you are still are capable of abusing survivors like you did as a staff member at Eckard.
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I was just wanting to direct interested parties over to the free for all section where Danny has posted his manifesto and other insane ramblings. It seems Danny suffers from a personality disorder that causes him to be abusive towards children and he also attends AA meetings inorder to pick up drunks for weird sex. He discussed this fact in one of his rants awhile back. Crazy!!!!!!!
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is Aaron Seymour on CAFETY and Facebook Reddits TTI groups, on the main Reddit he is Captenema also on Kelly Matthews TTI site. Please read the abusive vulgar language he using.
Danny's aggressive nature really does seem to point towards the increasing likelihood that he sexually assaulted young men and women in his care. That's entirely speculative though and one hopes that any real evidence turned up is submitted to the proper authorities in Maine.
Danny you really ought to sit down, shut up, and get a fucking lawyer. This is one of those things that is going to haunt you forever and a day if you don't get a handle on quickly and quietly.
So why don't you go put your money in your lawyer's mouth and stop coming across as a lunatic on these forums.
Only advice I have for you.
Glad I'm not in your pickle or had your pickle anywhere near me.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 9&start=30 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=30079&start=30)
http://www.heal-online.org/eckerd.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/eckerd.htm)
Aaron Seymour Staff (former) Aaron Seymour worked at Eckerd from 2000-2002. Seymour is brother to Joel Seymour who formerly worked at the Clearwater, FL (according to resume) and Rhode Island locations of Eckerd. See below. Aaron Seymour also worked for Three Springs, another confirmedly abusive program.
*(Eckerd Youth Alternatives' Programs, like many other programs in this industry, keeps a "tight lid" on any specific information regarding their staff, qualifications, and practices. Please contact us with the names of any staff of which you have firsthand knowledge or experience. Thank you for your help.)
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Danny's aggressive nature really does seem to point towards the increasing likelihood that he sexually assaulted young men and women in his care. That's entirely speculative though and one hopes that any real evidence turned up is submitted to the proper authorities in Maine.
Danny you really ought to sit down, shut up, and get a fucking lawyer. This is one of those things that is going to haunt you forever and a day if you don't get a handle on quickly and quietly.
So why don't you go put your money in your lawyer's mouth and stop coming across as a lunatic on these forums.
Only advice I have for you.
Glad I'm not in your pickle or had your pickle anywhere near me.
Aaron Seymour,
Many of us have noticed this continued vacillating from you concerning Wayne, one day on Reddit your kicking his ass and calling him names then CAFETY calls and you go into cover your ass mode. What did Kathrine Whitehead from CAFETY along with Ricky Linder do to you, pressure you into taking up for Wayne since he is working on projects for CAFETY and CAFETY is recieving money from the sales of his book. Maybe it was Siobhan Patricia Lynch and her inexperienced psychological breakdown of Wayne over lunch last Saturday or maybe it was when Wayne was licking her ass when he cleaned her apartment to gain acceptance and recognition.
Let me show you some emails from your distinguished new leader Ricky Linder CAFETY, Lets see what you think of his manipulative tactics concerning Wayne.
Pm's on Facebook
This was a conversation as of Sept. 11th 2011:
September 11
Ricky Linder
what's going on with wayne? I need more data as quick as you can. Is there a possibility Wayne's profile was hacked or are you two actually feuding? Thanks!
September 11
Danny Bennison
Errr....what about me is that important.
September 11
Ricky Linder
i dunno, it's just he's freaking out and I'm wondering if he has been hacked
that's the main thing
he's acting unlike his usual self
September 11
Danny Bennison
Listen you really have to ask him.
September 11
Ricky Linder
all right
September 11
Danny Bennison
We are fighting, Alexei has already decided to take sides.
I just wish every one would mind there own business buit that isn't possible because Wayne needs to drag our business all over town.
September 11
Ricky Linder
oh, i see
yes that bothers me
the problem is that he is issuing ultimatums, and it's really irritating because i'm working on a project with him.
September 11
Danny Bennison
What are his ultimatums disown Danny or I will not work with you.
September 11
Ricky Linder
please keep this conversation to yourself, OK?
i don't want to piss him off
but yes
Danny Bennison
I will absolutely, I know how to keep things private.
September 11
Ricky Linder
the terms are defriend or i'll defriend you (nothing personal, he says)
but it's very inconvenient
i know nothing about the situation but you have been good to me
i think he is also demanding we leave the group (equally inconvenient)
September 11
Danny Bennison
Well isn't that something. His tantrums are legendary. You know why he wants this so he can control. You have to ask yourself a question I guess.
September 11
Ricky Linder
the problem is he's working with me on a website. honestly the ultimatum just pisses me off.
September 11
Danny Bennison
This is Wayne when he wants his way. He really thinks this is a suitable request he has no idea how many boundaries he crosses asking someone to do this.
I will always be respectful of you Ricky you are one of the good guys here with a stable personality.
September 11
Ricky Linder
thank you :)
here's what i'm going to do
Getting this website up and running should take 2 to 4 weeks
I NEED wayne for that amount of time
Feel free to keep in contact during that period and I will temporarily leave the group and "defriend" you.
then after the website is complete I will rejoin the group.
As for refriending, I am happy to do so if there is good cause, but if it will keep waves from being made and we can just contact through PM perhaps that would be easiest?
If there is a good reason to "re-friend" in which case I will just do that. What do you think?
You can also join me on google+ and have my email
September 11
Danny Bennison
You have got to be kidding me. Listen I don't need this nor want anything to do with this.
Wayne will take this and use it to paint a very ugly picture. I need people like you top stand up for what you beleive for christ sake,
September 11
Ricky Linder
I see
I wasn't trying to offend, it was just an idea
but I was hoping I could at least hold off on pissing him off until the website is done
it's a really important project
September 11
Danny Bennison
I am not offended so much as shocked I guess.
September 11
Ricky Linder
OK
well I won't do that then
he will have to deal with it
unless i learn something i haven't learned yet, and I don't expect that
September 11
Danny Bennison
What are you supposed to learn. Wayne and I are fighting about the credibility of the book and our relationship.
September 11
Ricky Linder
i would imagine there's nothing to learn
I just haven't heard much of anything yet
i didn't even know the nature of the conflict only that there was an ultimatum.
September 11
Danny Bennison
You can read it on fornits and what ever other sites he is dragging into this. He is on the war path.
September 11
Ricky Linder
please please don't take anything i'm saying the wrong way, i'm just covering my bases, trying to understand and figure out how to perform damage control. Another critical component is that I'm with CAFETY now, I can't go getting myself in trouble either. I'm just trying to figure out what to do because I haven't got any issue with anyone.
September 11
Ricky Linder
I'm sorry i came off the wrong way
September 11
Danny Bennison
Ricky I understand you are anxious and want to complete the site.
September 11
Ricky Linder
thanks for your understanding. I'm also afraid because Falcon Wings is my only other real partner in this and if I lose her because of Wayne I'm in trouble. They are two of my best contacts, it would really cause my network to fall apart if I lose both of them--it's bigger than the website.
Whatever faults they have they are active and useful.
September 11
Ricky Linder
shit Kat is calling me
we will keep talking
later
i'm so sorry
September 11
Danny Bennison
I am not saying they have faults cause we all do. Have Falcon contact me, please. So we can talk.
September 11
Danny Bennison
You are a real piece of work. Good luck!!
Danny, you're the piece of work. You posted a private conversation in public. As bad as it makes Rickey Linder look, you look 10 times worse. He should have defriended you when he was asked.
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Are you saying I’m Danny? This Wayne, whoever, whatever, person spammed the net with this feud. That’s how I’m aware of the subject. You?
After reading the threads I was linked to, I find the situation outrageous. That Wayne character emailed this Danny person and told him, among with other incriminating revelations, that he’d secretly write a book describing “what really happened” for Danny even though that will “discredit his own book” if Danny would please give him the same amount of money he was going to give “rach”.
Is that the sort of letter you write to your alleged rapist and brutalizer that you're terrified of?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37949&start=0 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37949&start=0)
This is also outrageous:
The Driver is a story about the streets of New York in the 1980s, and my involvement with Jimmy Coonan and a group of neighborhood gangsters that the media dubbed "The Westies." I wasn't one of them, I was a confused kid who drove a NYC taxicab and got in with a bad crowd. After I separated myself from them, Jimmy asked me to do a job for him, a simple pick up. The problem is that the man who picked me for the job was John Gotti, the guy I picked up was Richard 'the iceman' Kuklinski, and the job was the execution of Gambino crime boss Paul Castellano [/b]
What is the likelihood that Wayne Kernochan is an accomplice to the assassination of famed mafia boss Paul Castellano?
This Wayne Kernochan guy also threatened, on the internet, where everyone could read it, to make up sex crimes accusations if he "needed to" in order “get” the danny person, after the Danny guy started pointing out factual inaccuracies in his novel.
Was Wayne Kernochan even @ Elan or the Costellano hit? That's my last comment, on something I shouldn't have commented on in the first place.
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First time poster. :)
Danny sounds guilty.Maybe, maybe not. What they really need to do is check into Marc Rosenberg, Marty Kruglik and Peter Rowe. They should be investigated for sexually abusing residents
A couple of others too
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First time poster. :)
Danny sounds guilty.Maybe, maybe not. What they really need to do is check into Marc Rosenberg, Marty Kruglik and Peter Rowe. They should be investigated for sexually abusing residents
A couple of others too
We see through your attention games none-ya! lol
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To get back on topic, I think Danny spoke to an attorney because he's erasing his posts. Whatever happens between them will play out. What I would like to see is a investigation into sexual abuse in Elan. Danny admitted it and Joe was successfully sued for sexual harassment. There are a lot of accusations about Marty Kruglik, Marc Rosenberg and Peter Rowe.
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To get back on topic, I think Danny spoke to an attorney because he's erasing his posts. Whatever happens between them will play out. What I would like to see is a investigation into sexual abuse in Elan. Danny admitted it and Joe was successfully sued for sexual harassment. There are a lot of accusations about Marty Kruglik, Marc Rosenberg and Peter Rowe.
Please cite evidence where Danny admitted to sexually abusing a resident as a resident or as a employee.
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Deleting your posts and saying they never happened just makes you look guilty. You haven't spoken to a lawyer, have you?
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Here's you admitting to it on the discussion about you being a rapist viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37915 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37915)
I hope I copy/pasted right
March 28Danny Bennison
Yvette Portella
Just some inside information, Yvette and I had a thing while we were residents, while I was in re-entry and while I was staff. Which is one of the reasons why I left E-7 so abruptly. Yes we did hook up after she left, her brother almost killed me along with her cousins they did not like white guys in New Haven.
This is the truth, I loved her a great deal. I got my heart broken big time.
Hey I don't want to fight with you. I am asking for forgiveness for crimes I can't remember, honestly Wayne. I have had sleepless nights trying to remember you, I don't. I have a family and a business so I am very careful about things that would harm them. I know you can understand this.
Lets just lay the swords down and let this go for a while and work at shutting Elan down. Maybe in time we can see more of each others souls through our writings here. Many of the people that support your book are my friends some are not. But they asked me how I felt about them supporting your book, I said go for it this is between Wayne and I. Ya see Wayne no one else has wrote a book we could show people so they could read what went on in Elan. Not as explicit as yours. You know your not done writing there is so much more to tell. You are a great writer and Elanians need someone like you to tell their story, please collaborate with others get the real info and get it out there. I believe until Sharon, Jeff and Marty see their names written out their they won't shut down Elan.
Thanks for reading if you did,
Take care
Danny
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Here's you admitting to it on the discussion about you being a rapist viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37915 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37915)
I hope I copy/pasted right
March 28Danny Bennison
Yvette Portella
Just some inside information, Yvette and I had a thing while we were residents, while I was in re-entry and while I was staff. Which is one of the reasons why I left E-7 so abruptly. Yes we did hook up after she left, her brother almost killed me along with her cousins they did not like white guys in New Haven.
This is the truth, I loved her a great deal. I got my heart broken big time.
Hey I don't want to fight with you. I am asking for forgiveness for crimes I can't remember, honestly Wayne. I have had sleepless nights trying to remember you, I don't. I have a family and a business so I am very careful about things that would harm them. I know you can understand this.
Lets just lay the swords down and let this go for a while and work at shutting Elan down. Maybe in time we can see more of each others souls through our writings here. Many of the people that support your book are my friends some are not. But they asked me how I felt about them supporting your book, I said go for it this is between Wayne and I. Ya see Wayne no one else has wrote a book we could show people so they could read what went on in Elan. Not as explicit as yours. You know your not done writing there is so much more to tell. You are a great writer and Elanians need someone like you to tell their story, please collaborate with others get the real info and get it out there. I believe until Sharon, Jeff and Marty see their names written out their they won't shut down Elan.
Thanks for reading if you did,
Take care
Danny
Please cite evidence that I had a sexual relationship with Yvette either as a Resident or Staff. I mean how many times does one have to ask. I understand that you are a bit inept but this is ridiculous.
I have made this request often and I see that it will never be satisfied. So if this is all you have then you really are a sorry individual, who cares for no one but yourself.
Bye..
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All you did is lie about her age
Wayne, shut up because once again you are a freaking idiot. If he did meet her it is when she first got there. So yes she was 16. So wasn't I, so if I slept with her how is that criminal, two 16 year olds having sex.
But that aside lets get to the facts, Doug never said anything like this.
Wayne, you would not know this but Wayne W, Denise, Yvette and myself were all the same age and we all came in within months of one another. Denise and Wayne W. and I were residents together at Elan 3 while I was there.
I just love how you run around screaming like a lune trying your damnest to get this conversation off of you and the fact your are a liar.
But this is it I am all done talking about this craziness.
See you back over on my thread it is back to the Book.
I fun with your wild accusations.
You can't unring the bell Danny
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You're kidding, right? You said you had sex with that girl since Wayne posted it.
Here's you admitting to it on the discussion about you being a rapist viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37915 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37915)
I hope I copy/pasted right
March 28Danny Bennison
Yvette Portella
Just some inside information, Yvette and I had a thing while we were residents, while I was in re-entry and while I was staff. Which is one of the reasons why I left E-7 so abruptly. Yes we did hook up after she left, her brother almost killed me along with her cousins they did not like white guys in New Haven.
This is the truth, I loved her a great deal. I got my heart broken big time.
Hey I don't want to fight with you. I am asking for forgiveness for crimes I can't remember, honestly Wayne. I have had sleepless nights trying to remember you, I don't. I have a family and a business so I am very careful about things that would harm them. I know you can understand this.
Lets just lay the swords down and let this go for a while and work at shutting Elan down. Maybe in time we can see more of each others souls through our writings here. Many of the people that support your book are my friends some are not. But they asked me how I felt about them supporting your book, I said go for it this is between Wayne and I. Ya see Wayne no one else has wrote a book we could show people so they could read what went on in Elan. Not as explicit as yours. You know your not done writing there is so much more to tell. You are a great writer and Elanians need someone like you to tell their story, please collaborate with others get the real info and get it out there. I believe until Sharon, Jeff and Marty see their names written out their they won't shut down Elan.
Thanks for reading if you did,
Take care
Danny
Please cite evidence that I had a sexual relationship with Yvette either as a Resident or Staff. I mean how many times does one have to ask. I understand that you are a bit inept but this is ridiculous.
I have made this request often and I see that it will never be satisfied. So if this is all you have then you really are a sorry individual, who cares for no one but yourself.
Bye..
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This is all on the thread about you being a rapist
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Wow.. this thread is great.. Thanks for the clarification.... LOL!
Anyhow thus far, this is what I am getting from it all..
Wayne is accusing danny of sodomizing him, forcing another dude to blow him, and raping ( statutory) another girl.
This is a stupid place to discuss this, but I really can t think of any better.
I would be curious if Wayne would be willing to scan those progress reports that he mentions on his radio appearance, and post them up... I am sorry.. Overall, I think he probably went there, but it is odd that nobody know shim, and anyone who comes up saying that they know him now could be anybody, or in most cases, Mark Babitz..
Danny, why were you forced to leave Elan?
Paul
PS Does anybody else realize what a big deal this is? Not only is man being accused of numerous sex crimes, but if he is innocent, this brings Wayne's whole book into question, which, outside of Elan closing is probably one of the biggest accomplishments for the Elan community.
PSS This thread is written primarily for the few people who actually have brains and care to use them.. There are those posts that ooze and perplex, and then there are those that stand like solid bricks... Amongst the ooze, I see a few bricks, and from that can guess taht there some decent minds who are actually interested...
PSS None-Ya is not Danny. danny is Danny.. None-Ya is None-Ya.. Now if what Wayne said on his radio appearance is true, that 3 different people pm ed him that No0ne-Ya is Danny, it was probably all the same person using different names, or dishonest people who just don t care what is true.
PSSS Wayne, if you are on the up and up, you should probably watch who you associate with. To some of these people, you may just be a tool.
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Wanye, scan the monthly progress report and paste them here. I have heard you have run around pasting them for others. I see you won't reveal them to the very people that can bust your ass for the PIMP you are.
Get this fat boy, I will kindly give you my address so you can come here and kick my teeth down my throat, I seriously doubt you have your balls anymore.
You have become our stooge, Wayne (or whatever it is). We use you and your book as entertainment when describing the bullshit you can put on the internet. You are a party conversation favorite in my circles.
So what sexuality are you today, Mr. Tuff Guy.
I see now you have another agency/organization you want to solicit to hear your bullshit. Jesus, there are literally thousands good luck.
You will always have one problem PIMP, perjury. That's right cross examination of the truth.
You won't even make it out of the deposition process. All one has to do is read all the shit you have put out on the internet.
Your contradictions you have written on the blog Absolute Write, Derailed Vol.1 Thread will bury you. I copied it all before you had it scrambled.
Your secret facebook groups sites well they get subpenaed.
Your threats to my family and friends they come into the fold.
I can't wait.
You will be thinking about your home away from home, prison. Since you seem to know so much about male on male sex.
As I have always said this is your shit to deal with. Go get a therapist and get it worked out.
Take care PIMP!!
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A few points.
1. Danny threatened to have Yvette raped by the entire house. That's not statutory rape, that coercion. Rape
OK....now it's Danny wanted the whole house to rape this innocent women you so viciously are dehumanizing. Nice Wayne.
2. Danny has been accused of the worst possible crime someone can be accused of and hasn't done a fucking thing about it. Proof? No. Does it make him look guilty? You bet. That's because he did it.
Riiiiight!!! Just like I dragged a child around behind a van.
3. I don't have to prove what's in my book is true, Danny and Elan have to prove it's not. They've been working hard on that and can't. Believe it or don't, at this point I don't give a fuck.
Yaaahhh ya do. You wrote the book, dumbass. If what you are saying is true then James Frey would still be with us and his book would still be a best seller. You wrote a memoir so actually you are covered, no one demands facts out of a memoir.
4. If Nun Ya isn't Danny, who cares? He's just as big an asshole. And, he better hide behind his fake screen name because if I ever find out who he is I'll go to his house and knock his teeth down his throat. What Nun Ya is, is a coward.
None Ya is your fucking Daddy. Second I will be more then happy to oblige with my address. I'll even send you the tickets to fly here.
5. This entire charade is as Jerry (YV53) said, not for me, but to scare anyone else who is stupid enough to come forward.
Wayne (or whatever it is), Oh, OK, now you are YV23/53 and Yvette is 53. I thank you for finally telling the truth about her. Yes you are Jerry (the cat, dumbass) and we all knew it. The charade you are talking about is the lies and foolishness you have put out here. Your right no one wants to get involved with you. Unless they are your sock puppets. You are a liar and a PIMP.
6. The FBI cyber crime unit isn't going to do anything because I engaged Danny for so long on the internet, so I called the National Crime Victims Bar Association. They assigned me a lawyer from Bangor who is going to sue Danny and Elan for what happened to me in 1978, and for his continued abuse today as a cyber stalker.
You really are just one big fat dumbass, aren't you. Why do you insist that we listen to you or better yet believe anything you say. You constantly change everything weekly and sometimes daily.
7. I'm going to testify. I guarantee you Danny doesn't.
How wonderful, I'll bring the popcorn... :jerry:
I don't want money, but I'll take it and give it away, as I did with the royalty check I got yesterday. I want to hang that piece of shit and that piece of shit school. It isn't gone. Not in my mind.
Yeah, that should support CAFETY and Ricky Linder for the next few hours. How did you like what Ricky had to say about your coercive methods you tried and succeeded with him.
I'll see you in court Dan. I'd rather see you in jail, but I'll settle for the public hanging. You can be sure the media will love this. I'm going to call Judy Meyers myself :)
Wayne (or whatever it is) I would enjoy this visit to a court room but I am not counting on it. You really don't want this because then you get outed for the fraud you are.
So if you can make it happen, fine, I'll be there.
But don't count on me to make it happen, I am not that impressed yet.
Take care.
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A few points.
3. I don't have to prove what's in my book is true, Danny and Elan have to prove it's not. They've been working hard on that and can't. Believe it or don't, at this point I don't give a fuck.
I'm sorry, man.. but this where our views on things differ. In a world, where that were the case, things would be very backwards... and well.. fucked up.
The burden of proof is always on the accuser. When law/science/reasoning or anything is practiced properly, innocence never needs to be proven. Guilt has to be established rather... and this is not done through a person writing a book. The person can be anyone and have any motive, or even be mistaken.. Now, perhaps, you consider yourself a straight up guy... but if we applied your logic universally, can you imagine what type of world we would live in...
Anybody could write anything about anyone, and then that person would have to take time out of their lives to disprove it. If you did not like someone, you could just have a bunch of people write stories about them, and they would have to spend so much time disproving things, they would lose all else.
and that's just scratching the surface.. If you apply the principle you are assuming, elsewhere, which, if it is right, there would be no reason not too...
You would have to disprove the claims of every insane person, before you could put them away.... AmityVille Horror guy heard voices, and I can t disprove it.. Until, we can disprove it, we must assume it happenned.
has anyone wrote a book, that thoroughly refutes every detail Mein Kampf, because afterall, we must be fair here, and until that is done, we must assume that everything in the book is true...
Do you see what I am getting at? If not, I don t know what to tell you... Neither Danny nor Elan can called u[pon to claim a negative. I simply don t know for sure, that your claims are correct. You are the only person who has said anything about Danny committing sex crimes, especailly upon other males... I cannot assume it is true, just because someone has said it.
Even this whole fucking van story.. why is there no one who can say- " I WAS THERE! I REMEMBER IT CLEARLY! AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENNED!"
Paul St. John
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Paul, he gave me permission to print the book and admitted to what he did to Wayne Weaver. What kind of fucking idiot would do that? He's not even that stupid Tell him to sue me if it isn't true. As far as the van story Jerry was there. He says Danny wasn't the driver, that he stood there smiling
The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not. If I was out to get him I would have left it in. I was very careful about only printing the truth
And, the burden of proof is in a court of law.
The burden of proof is fucking everywhere.. It is part of the law system, for good reason.. It is necessary to bring about justice.
Danny didn't sue me because he thought an investigation might shake a few witnesses loose
That might be the case, or it may be because you have no assets, he would recieve nothing monetarily, would have to spend to do it, and if the whole story is really confined to just a few message boards and a radioshow called "bi-polar nation" it doesn t seem worth it.. I don't know.. don t know..
He admitted to raping Yvette Portella. If he didn't do anyone else, why doesn't he call a lawyer? He's afraid of the same thing
That's the problem with so much of the bullshit taht sometimes goes on in this Elan circle, and in message boards and forums in general.. What "doe"s admitted mean? When did he do it? Like I said- I haven t followed all this shit...
I mean, Now, you are saying that Danny admitted to raping her... and yet, you can t even get your fucking story straight... First you say fucking raped her... Then you are making an argument that it was statutory rape, AND THEN.. he never even fucking touched her.. he only asked other people if they would rape her, if they had the chance.. Fucked up? YES! But a big fucking difference between that and actual rape... and at other times, he used his power over her to force her into a relationship... What s the real fucking story.... cause you seem to use whatever is to your advantage at the time..
Anyway, I'm going to testify to what he did. He won't because his lawyer will tell him not to or he'll end up in jail for perjury
So fucking do it! Why argue with me then?
Paul
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The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not.
The fact that you weren't even there did not stop you from telling this story on the radio.All you,ve done all along is plagarize other peoples stories.The only support you seem to garner are the johnny come lately trools.(all the elan people who hate Danny but won't use their regular names to support you 'cause they know you're full of shit) Notice since all the new trolls showed up here we no longer hear from Felice or mark or Matt. These folks may very well have a legtimate bone to pick with Danny. But none of them have ever heard of you until your book came out. You are a relitive newbie here. These stories have been around long before the crash. When you used to be able to post anonymously. But you wouldnt, know that would you? You never went after Danny when he was teamed up with Whooter and Max(suckit). You are nothing more than a charlatan. Your story is an amalgamation of everything said here on fornits,and it's alwas changing. You claimed on the last radio show,that you had to read whole posts (outright word for word),'cause you couldn't remember"this stuff".Look asshole if you lived it then you would remember.I say there's a chance that you didn't even write the damn book. After hearing you on the radio I'm sure the last book you've read,was published by Marvel.
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"You're beginning to bore me again"
That's all you've got? You've got nothing! But you just have to try and cover my every post. You are nothing but a stalker yourself. If I bore you so much, then just GO THE FUCK AWAY ALREADY!!
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The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not.
The fact that you weren't even there did not stop you from telling this story on the radio.All you,ve done all along is plagarize other peoples stories.The only support you seem to garner are the johnny come lately trools.(all the elan people who hate Danny but won't use their regular names to support you 'cause they know you're full of shit) Notice since all the new trolls showed up here we no longer hear from Felice or mark or Matt. These folks may very well have a legtimate bone to pick with Danny. But none of them have ever heard of you until your book came out. You are a relitive newbie here. These stories have been around long before the crash. When you used to be able to post anonymously. But you wouldnt, know that would you? You never went after Danny when he was teamed up with Whooter and Max(suckit). You are nothing more than a charlatan. Your story is an amalgamation of everything said here on fornits,and it's alwas changing. You claimed on the last radio show,that you had to read whole posts (outright word for word),'cause you couldn't remember"this stuff".Look asshole if you lived it then you would remember.I say there's a chance that you didn't even write the damn book. After hearing you on the radio I'm sure the last book you've read,was published by Marvel.
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Paul, he gave me permission to print the book and admitted to what he did to Wayne Weaver. What kind of fucking idiot would do that? He's not even that stupid Tell him to sue me if it isn't true. As far as the van story Jerry was there. He says Danny wasn't the driver, that he stood there smiling
Wayne I figure if you keep saying that enough you will get yourself to believe it. I never gave you permission, put the email back up here (not edited either). You will see where I asked you two questions and you blew them off and ran with the publication.
The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not. If I was out to get him I would have left it in. I was very careful about only printing the truth
Listen stop with the Jerry shit. Paul and everyone else knows this is you dumbass. Plus we still have not seen these progress reports you have been peddling around the various sites. The van story would have kicked the validation of the book out the door. Wayne go ahead and post some of the comments you received in the memoir thread on AW forums. People were having difficulty believing you until one of the members finally said that the standard of truth when it comes to a memoir is up for grabs.
And, the burden of proof is in a court of law. Danny didn't sue me because he thought an investigation might shake a few witnesses loose
No the burden of proof is not in a court of law because there isn't a court that even wants this case. You can't even pay your court costs douche bag. Trust me I already have thoroughly scanned that idea and it would actually cost me money (with no return). Plus I keep hearing what I need to hear. The garbage you call a book is not going anywhere because people find it not believable, this includes survivors.
Oh, I have noticed you still have not found the 2 sites that were opened in your honor. Comments coming in are interesting.
He admitted to raping Yvette Portella. If he didn't do anyone else, why doesn't he call a lawyer? He's afraid of the same thing
You still can't provide the truth can you. So go on keep saying "I RAPED A YOUNG LADY IN ELAN"!!!!
Anyway, I'm going to testify to what he did. He won't because his lawyer will tell him not to or he'll end up in jail for perjury
No your not. See this is where your lying just wasn't needed. You were doing fine then you stop and switch gears to this tuff guy role. I going to do this and I am going to do that.
Wayne (or whatever it is) you are a broke dick fucking loser hanging on to the ball sack of Elan members.
You are not a survivor and have never been one. You are a PIMP and this hustling you do is bullshit.
Nobody and I mean Nobody has come forth to validate anything you have said or wrote...NOBODY!!!! No witnesses, No corroboration, No testimonies, No letters, No progress reports, No investigation, No charges, No attorney generals....nothing you promised has materialized.
Yet you keep running your mouth saying this is going to happen and I have this for proof ect......Where the hell is all this shit you keep telling us all about.
It is no where, just a figment of your sick twisted imagination.
Listen you fat old fuck go blow yourself or at least help your imaginary wife with it.
The publishing business is nothing like you think. This is from Celina Summers, a former editor from Aspen Mountain Press who just started her own house, Musa Publishing
Celina is another out of work has been like you that hasn't published shit. She is hawking her wares on a writers site looking to score something. You act as if because she critiqued a post I wrote
on there that she has some importance. She has no clue who the hell you are and/or what you have done in your life. She is on a writers blog sticking up for another writer.
WoW what a concept... :rofl:
Now Paul, go to any Elan group and tell them you think I fabricated the book. Not one has said that except Danny, an internet stalker and abuser of women, who has been caught in numerous lies.
Wayne (or whatever it is) Paul knows more about Elan and it's members on this site and probably others more then you and I would ever know. He is one of the originals of this site. The only people that believe
this book in its totality are people who are blowing smoke up your ASS.
They don't know so how can anyone say truthfully they believe it, they were not there and they don't know you. Are you finally getting this Wayne (or whatever you are).
Every time you have been questioned on this subject (the book) you go ape shit and attack the person asking you questions.
Tell me who is defensive and possibly feeling a bit insecure.
Please don't insult our feeling and give us some pseudo programmy special answer you read or heard from Trish or another of your friends pumping you
with great Pyscho babble.
Like I said, believe what you want. You'll be wrong
No you are wrong since the day you started this bullshit charade.
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The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not.
The fact that you weren't even there did not stop you from telling this story on the radio.All you,ve done all along is plagarize other peoples stories.The only support you seem to garner are the johnny come lately trools.(all the elan people who hate Danny but won't use their regular names to support you 'cause they know you're full of shit) Notice since all the new trolls showed up here we no longer hear from Felice or mark or Matt. These folks may very well have a legtimate bone to pick with Danny. But none of them have ever heard of you until your book came out. You are a relitive newbie here. These stories have been around long before the crash. When you used to be able to post anonymously. But you wouldnt, know that would you? You never went after Danny when he was teamed up with Whooter and Max(suckit). You are nothing more than a charlatan. Your story is an amalgamation of everything said here on fornits,and it's alwas changing. You claimed on the last radio show,that you had to read whole posts (outright word for word),'cause you couldn't remember"this stuff".Look asshole if you lived it then you would remember.I say there's a chance that you didn't even write the damn book. After hearing you on the radio I'm sure the last book you've read,was published by Marvel.
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"Wayne Kernochan" wrote:
Paul, my publisher has deep pockets. Danny would have no problem finding a lawyer to sue them
Jesus, are you really this stupid or what. Read your fucking book. Your publisher is like being on this Fornit Site they have a iron clad disclaimer within the contract it is spelled right out in the front of the book.
Where in the hell did this guy come from.
Wayne, who do you think you are talking to here your buddies like Douglas.
Listen you have been told how many times now. Take your shit and leave this site. You are a liar. A proven liar.
Nothing about you comes up truthful, nothing.
Also, I never said it was statutory rape, I said she was a 15 year old girl who he had the power to beat and torture.
No she wasn't 15 when she entered Elan she was 16 the same age as me. She came in 2 months after me in 1975. Douglas Hannah, if you hear all his You Tube stories he never once perjures himself publicly to back you. He never met Yvette and he was never even in Elan 7. You have done nothing but take a innocent man (Douglas) and use him to further your corrupt cause. Wayne (or whatever you are) why don't you stop and go back to your secret society on Facebook. Hey you can talk with all your sock puppets there.
Please at some point would you provide us with some evidence. "Having A Thing" with somebody does not equal having "SEX" with somebody. In case you wanted to hear the truth.
And, I am going to testify. My lawyer is gathering evidence and will file when he's sure he can make a good case
WoW!!!! Thanks for keeping us posted. Please do give us follow ups when you have more. Are you still going with I sodomized you or is it Willie, Mike, Doug or someone else.
I didn't come here to argue with you. I liked and respected you enough to answer your questions so I did. I'm done with that. You're obviously not going to believe me. Cool. I don't care. I want you an None Ya to tell everyone I lied and my book isn't true. As I said, I don't give a fuck
You did come to argue and persuade. As far as liking anybody I really don't think you are capable of this emotion. You are a PIMP who uses people unbeknownst to them for publicity. None of these people you have me accused of doing unspeakable things to even know what the hell you have done.
You then drop even lower (then I have ever seen anybody drop their standards) and say I committed a sexual crime against you.
If this is what Reddits, CAFETY and all the other sites want from you or you feel compelled to do for them, then this industry has been whored out. Ricky Linder is nothing more then a whore, your whore and you have many more. Hence the PIMP!!!!
Wayne (or whatever you are) you have been enabled to feel you have a voice hear. In reality you don't, hustlers usually don't get the access you have managed to get.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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I'm still waiting you fucking coward
Listen you have my number, dial it and I will explain how to get to Oklahoma City, South Portland St. This is where you will find my company. Airport (Will Rogers) is not far away at all, 15 mins.
Right across the street from my company is a large barn and field they buy and sell cattle and horses there all day every day except Sundays. The fairgrounds is next door also.
If you have trouble ask your friend from Oklahoma City who is on your secret site. This person will know exactly where I am talking about.
So grab your pan sexual vagina and giddy up.
I am not really interested in violence and all that, I just want to finally come eye to eye with you. If you choose to want other things to happen I'll oblige, you have my word on that.
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Welp, no visits this week. Dag gum'it!!!
Nope no deleting. Only thing I deleted was the rebuttal. That was moved to its own site. I am surprised you have not found it yet. Traffic was slow at first but has picked up steadily. Some of your writer associates who didn't care for you for amazingly the same reasons I don't (you are a liar) have posted there. I tried to appeal to the folks who would know you best so I could get a on target opinion of you, it worked.
The membership is surprisingly fair and honest.
All I did was post your book and then my complete rebuttal of the book. I then searched out folks who knew you and I and threw in some extra's for outside opinions. Well we got a very wide range of folks.
Wayne (or whatever you are) if and when you finally find the site, you will recognize some of the people and most you will not, but one thing you will notice they were fair.
Which if you remember is all None Ya was trying to do until you got very ugly about things. You proved my point for me, you are a liar.
Aligning yourself with people who just go along with you because they don't like me is very transparent here. Just thought I would tell you if you hadn't already known this.
It is very sad actually.
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Re: Some Clarification Please?
by DannyB II » Today, 12:44
Re: Defending Danny B.
by none-ya » Today, 12:47
by YV23 » 10 Oct 2011, 23:26
I believe you're Danny. You're always here at the same time vomiting out the same argument. Maybe you're talking on the phone, planning to take down Wayne together. Either way it doesn't matter. Turn on Danny and you'll be Wayne. Just like the past 13 people who opposed him. Funny he's kept his mouth shut when I poked him about when he was a resident though. Or when I asked about when Marty said his mother had to hang a pork chop around his neck to get the dog to play with him. Or when I (twice) asked him about the private message he sent to Juan Ferreria Danny knows I know him. That's why he's been a gutless turd, and not answered any of my questions.
I agree this should be settled in a courtroom, but as long as Danny wants to embarrass himself it's up for discussion. I have to go to work tomorrow so you kids have to play without me till Friday.
You (two?) are always here at the same time. Minutes apart. I've gone through both of your posts on split screen. That happens a lot.
I believe you're Danny
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Re: Defending Danny B.
by none-ya » 14 minutes a
Re: Some Clarification Please?
by DannyB II » 7 minutes ago
All people have to do is check your posts. Even when you fight with yourself you're on at the same time, then you both disappear for hours and are back at the same time
You're so full of shit it's remarkable
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Wanye, scan the monthly progress report and paste them here. I have heard you have run around pasting them for others. I see you won't reveal them to the very people that can bust your ass for the PIMP you are.
Get this fat boy, I will kindly give you my address so you can come here and kick my teeth down my throat, I seriously doubt you have your balls anymore.
You have become our stooge, Wayne (or whatever it is). We use you and your book as entertainment when describing the bullshit you can put on the internet. You are a party conversation favorite in my circles.
So what sexuality are you today, Mr. Tuff Guy.
I see now you have another agency/organization you want to solicit to hear your bullshit. Jesus, there are literally thousands good luck.
You will always have one problem PIMP, perjury. That's right cross examination of the truth.
You won't even make it out of the deposition process. All one has to do is read all the shit you have put out on the internet.
Your contradictions you have written on the blog Absolute Write, Derailed Vol.1 Thread will bury you. I copied it all before you had it scrambled.
Your secret facebook groups sites well they get subpenaed.
Your threats to my family and friends they come into the fold.
I can't wait.
You will be thinking about your home away from home, prison. Since you seem to know so much about male on male sex.
As I have always said this is your shit to deal with. Go get a therapist and get it worked out.
Take care PIMP!!
Everyone here knows you'll never send it you fucking pussy. Faggot that I am, you're afraid of me.
The best part of you ran down your mother's leg
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A few points.
3. I don't have to prove what's in my book is true, Danny and Elan have to prove it's not. They've been working hard on that and can't. Believe it or don't, at this point I don't give a fuck.
I'm sorry, man.. but this where our views on things differ. In a world, where that were the case, things would be very backwards... and well.. fucked up.
The burden of proof is always on the accuser. When law/science/reasoning or anything is practiced properly, innocence never needs to be proven. Guilt has to be established rather... and this is not done through a person writing a book. The person can be anyone and have any motive, or even be mistaken.. Now, perhaps, you consider yourself a straight up guy... but if we applied your logic universally, can you imagine what type of world we would live in...
Anybody could write anything about anyone, and then that person would have to take time out of their lives to disprove it. If you did not like someone, you could just have a bunch of people write stories about them, and they would have to spend so much time disproving things, they would lose all else.
and that's just scratching the surface.. If you apply the principle you are assuming, elsewhere, which, if it is right, there would be no reason not too...
You would have to disprove the claims of every insane person, before you could put them away.... AmityVille Horror guy heard voices, and I can t disprove it.. Until, we can disprove it, we must assume it happenned.
has anyone wrote a book, that thoroughly refutes every detail Mein Kampf, because afterall, we must be fair here, and until that is done, we must assume that everything in the book is true...
Do you see what I am getting at? If not, I don t know what to tell you... Neither Danny nor Elan can called u[pon to claim a negative. I simply don t know for sure, that your claims are correct. You are the only person who has said anything about Danny committing sex crimes, especailly upon other males... I cannot assume it is true, just because someone has said it.
Even this whole fucking van story.. why is there no one who can say- " I WAS THERE! I REMEMBER IT CLEARLY! AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENNED!"
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Paul, he gave me permission to print the book and admitted to what he did to Wayne Weaver. What kind of fucking idiot would do that? He's not even that stupid Tell him to sue me if it isn't true. As far as the van story Jerry was there. He says Danny wasn't the driver, that he stood there smiling
The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not. If I was out to get him I would have left it in. I was very careful about only printing the truth
And, the burden of proof is in a court of law. Danny didn't sue me because he thought an investigation might shake a few witnesses loose
He admitted to raping Yvette Portella. If he didn't do anyone else, why doesn't he call a lawyer? He's afraid of the same thing
Anyway, I'm going to testify to what he did. He won't because his lawyer will tell him not to or he'll end up in jail for perjury
The publishing business is nothing like you think. This is from Celina Summers, a former editor from Aspen Mountain Press who just started her own house, Musa Publishing
Danny, are you a writer? Or are you just stalking Wayne across the internet trying to refute what he says in his book? Because quite frankly, this is a site for WRITERS, not flame wars.
Wayne doesn't promote his book here. For one, 'promotion' doesn't really apply to free books. Second, this site isn't about book promotion. Wayne has, however, discussed his book here with his peers in the writing community, and his story was gripping enough to cause many of us to check into the history of Elan School and the charges against it.
Here's the major facts as they apply here to this site:
1--If you're here to refute Wayne's book, you're here under false pretenses. You are a cyber stalker, cluttering up a writer's forum with your own personal agenda.
2--No one here cares about who you are, what your history is, or what you did or did not do at Elan. No one here cares if you remember Wayne or not. His book is about what HE remembers from Elan, not you, and it is not his responsibility to compensate for your lack of memory regarding him.
3--It's not our responsibility to investigate the 'war of words' you're having with Wayne beyond what occurs on this site. And, quite frankly, I find it so utterly, horribly creepy that ANYONE would cyber-stalk a victim of abuse and challenge him to verify that abuse or corroborate it in some way that I can honestly say all you're doing is undermining yourself. This behavior is the behavior of an abuser, not a victim. So all you've accomplished with this at least as far as I'm concerned is to confirm everything that Wayne has said--a confirmation, I might add, that has been already provided by hundreds of other Elan victims across the internet.
I'd suggest that it is in your best interests to stop the stalking and just let it drop, Danny. You're not doing yourself any favors with this behavior. All you're doing, in fact, is making his case for him. I would assume that's not your intent?
Let it go. And leave the Elan controversy on the Elan sites, instead of dragging them onto writers' forums that aren't involved.
Best wishes for your future endeavors.
Now Paul, go to any Elan group and tell them you think I fabricated the book. Not one has said that except Danny, an internet stalker and abuser of women, who has been caught in numerous lies.
I have not
Like I said, believe what you want. You'll be wrong
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Paul, my publisher has deep pockets. Danny would have no problem finding a lawyer to sue them
Also, I never said it was statutory rape, I said she was a 15 year old girl who he had the power to beat and torture.
And, I am going to testify. My lawyer is gathering evidence and will file when he's sure he can make a good case
I didn't come here to argue with you. I liked and respected you enough to answer your questions so I did. I'm done with that. You're obviously not going to believe me. Cool. I don't care. I want you an None Ya to tell everyone I lied and my book isn't true. As I said, I don't give a fuck
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Paul, he gave me permission to print the book and admitted to what he did to Wayne Weaver. What kind of fucking idiot would do that? He's not even that stupid Tell him to sue me if it isn't true. As far as the van story Jerry was there. He says Danny wasn't the driver, that he stood there smiling
The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not. If I was out to get him I would have left it in. I was very careful about only printing the truth
And, the burden of proof is in a court of law.
The burden of proof is fucking everywhere.. It is part of the law system, for good reason.. It is necessary to bring about justice.
Danny didn't sue me because he thought an investigation might shake a few witnesses loose
That might be the case, or it may be because you have no assets, he would recieve nothing monetarily, would have to spend to do it, and if the whole story is really confined to just a few message boards and a radioshow called "bi-polar nation" it doesn t seem worth it.. I don't know.. don t know..
He admitted to raping Yvette Portella. If he didn't do anyone else, why doesn't he call a lawyer? He's afraid of the same thing
That's the problem with so much of the bullshit taht sometimes goes on in this Elan circle, and in message boards and forums in general.. What "doe"s admitted mean? When did he do it? Like I said- I haven t followed all this shit...
I mean, Now, you are saying that Danny admitted to raping her... and yet, you can t even get your fucking story straight... First you say fucking raped her... Then you are making an argument that it was statutory rape, AND THEN.. he never even fucking touched her.. he only asked other people if they would rape her, if they had the chance.. Fucked up? YES! But a big fucking difference between that and actual rape... and at other times, he used his power over her to force her into a relationship... What s the real fucking story.... cause you seem to use whatever is to your advantage at the time..
Anyway, I'm going to testify to what he did. He won't because his lawyer will tell him not to or he'll end up in jail for perjury
So fucking do it! Why argue with me then?
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Still waiting for that address you coward
Wayne, grow up. You are not coming to Okie or Atlanta. I am very easy to find.
If you are so inclined you will do what ya gotta do.
Like I said I am not looking for violence just a opportunity to settle things.
Plus I didn't like how you talked to None Ya. Stop threatening violence.
Go back to the beginning of his thread it was about the lack of defense from
folks who know me.
People are trying to work with you but you are not making it easy.
Stop lying. That's it.
Back up 10 yards and punt.
Nobody is really gonna care in two weeks. I'm not.
It is just words Wayne (or whatever you are).
Man up and get honest.
Take care..
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Chicken shit punk ass bitch. Same as None Ya.
WoW!!!! Is this what your secret group is chanting these days.
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Chicken shit punk ass bitch. Same as None Ya.
WoW!!!! Is this what your secret group is chanting these days.
I told you,he's no writter.And I think he's starting to lose it.
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The van story isn't in the book BTW. When Jerry said that to me I took it out because I wasn't 100% sure if he drove or not.
The fact that you weren't even there did not stop you from telling this story on the radio.All you,ve done all along is plagarize other peoples stories.The only support you seem to garner are the johnny come lately trools.(all the elan people who hate Danny but won't use their regular names to support you 'cause they know you're full of shit) Notice since all the new trolls showed up here we no longer hear from Felice or mark or Matt. These folks may very well have a legtimate bone to pick with Danny. But none of them have ever heard of you until your book came out. You are a relitive newbie here. These stories have been around long before the crash. When you used to be able to post anonymously. But you wouldnt, know that would you? You never went after Danny when he was teamed up with Whooter and Max(suckit). You are nothing more than a charlatan. Your story is an amalgamation of everything said here on fornits,and it's alwas changing. You claimed on the last radio show,that you had to read whole posts (outright word for word),'cause you couldn't remember"this stuff".Look asshole if you lived it then you would remember.I say there's a chance that you didn't even write the damn book. After hearing you on the radio I'm sure the last book you've read,was published by Marvel.
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I like this one better asshole
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Did you also find some morality, honesty and humanity along your path.
I won't hold my breath as usual.
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That's nice coming from the man who raped her
Marty would have been proud of you Danny
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So none-ya is Danny?
Err.. Dunno if that would be the case. Danny has never struck me as being clever enough to pull off that sort of duplicity. Still, I suppose None-ya could request an IP merge from Psy. If none-ya is danny it'll show up pretty quickly.
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So none-ya is Danny?
Err.. Dunno if that would be the case. Danny has never struck me as being clever enough to pull off that sort of duplicity. Still, I suppose None-ya could request an IP merge from Psy. If none-ya is danny it'll show up pretty quickly.
I asked Antigen,she said no. I'll try Psy.
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So none-ya is Danny?
Err.. Dunno if that would be the case. Danny has never struck me as being clever enough to pull off that sort of duplicity. Still, I suppose None-ya could request an IP merge from Psy. If none-ya is danny it'll show up pretty quickly.
Like you trying to pull off being admin of a CAFETY site; CAFETY CREW https://www.facebook.com/groups/cafetycrew/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/cafetycrew/) Aaron Seymour.
Aaron Seymour is CHe Gookin here. On this CAFETY site he uses his real name Aaron Seymour. Well you know, he has to put on a good show.
What I don't understand is what exactly goes on up inside that fat head of yours where you would begin to believe that you have something to offer the TTI community. All someone would have to do is find out your usernames and see the enormous amount of vulgarity and down right filthy raunchy remarks you have made to survivors both male and female. I truly believe this aggressive behavior is a over reaction that stems from compensation of guilt for being Staff at Eckard and recruiting your younger brother. Which if you really think about it was kind of fucked up due to the fact he went through a program as a student/resident. Upon further investigation this was based upon your urgings.
I do hope you come back and join CAFETY in the USA, especially at the DC dinner scene. Then you will actually be able to witness just how clever I am.
Take care of yourself
Capt Enema, Che Gookin and Aaron Seymour
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So none-ya is Danny?
Err.. Dunno if that would be the case. Danny has never struck me as being clever enough to pull off that sort of duplicity. Still, I suppose None-ya could request an IP merge from Psy. If none-ya is danny it'll show up pretty quickly.
I actually have to agree with that. Danny is very impulsive and needs to win every argument. I don t think he could've kept a second persona around this long without making use of it.
Also, None-ya comes across to me as a very real and distinct person.
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I've contacted Antigen about proving I'm not Danny. She said she couldn't. I've since contacted Psy,and I am waiting for a reply.
Besides,doesn'tanybody read the profiles? I've been posting here for a while now.Even back when you could post anonomously.(before the crash). And now all of a sudden I'm Danny? Come on!
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Staff at Eckard and recruiting your younger brother
Normally I tend to brush over Danny's nonsensical babbling. However, this point calls for clarification on my part. My brother is older than me, he's the one who went to work for Eckerd's Youth first so I couldn't possibly have recruited him, you are right about him being the program survivor.. so at least you managed to get one thing right, and I see you've raised your rates for sucking dick in the local park from .50 cents to a whole dollar.
Congrats on that.
I'm starting to see more and more where Wayne is coming from. This can't be the real Danny Bonehead. No one would be as stupid as this and keep attacking everyone all over a website after being outted as a rapist.
I'm thinking that somewhere along the line the Danny Dillhole persona got taken over by someone for their own use.
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I understand the paranoia here on fornits because most of these profiles are fake, but I'm not Wayne and I'm the one who said Marc Rosenberg is posting from Danny's profile. One minute he can't spell cat if you gave him the C and the A, and the next he posts a manifesto with words Danny can't spell and words he doesn't understand
I was in Elan with Danny. The vulgar posts filled with grammatical errors and misspellings are Danny. The post about CAFETY is not. Is None Ya Danny? I'm not sure 100% but I am convinced someone is posting under Danny's name here
Again, the rumor was Danny was fired for having sex with residents. No one was ever fired from Elan for being abusive. That's bullshit
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I highly doubt None-ya is Danny. His offensive on Wayne is perplexing to be sure, but he's not Danny.
None-ya, I sure wouldn't mind knowing why you are going after Wayne. You are well aware of Danny's history of threatening posters, he threatened both Matt Hoffman and Annie Bonney.
I find Wayne's story to be believable but not entirely damning. That's not a decision for me to make as to whether Wayne is being truthful. If Danny feels so strongly about it he can easily get a lawyer and go after Wayne in court.
But he's up here on fornits trolling and flaming away.
Fucking weird if you ask me. And by Danny's own account he certainly can afford a lawyer.
As for possible other posters.. I don't entirely believe danny actually even posts here anymore. I think his entire persona got taken over by a few shitbirds out to muddy the waters.
1) It could be a few survivors seeking to keep the Elan issue relevant in the wake of Elan's shut-down.
2) It could be a couple former staffers seeking to hang all the real nasty shit on Danny as Danny's a bit of a dumbass and not bright enough to know he's getting fucked.
3) As a wild card.. Danny gave the Whooter his account for epic lulz.
Over all, while my first 3 scenarios are probably wrong, I still do not believe Danny is the one of control of his account anymore. No one could be that big of a dumbass to keep stoking the fires of dissent against him over and over again.
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Only on fornits would a ex-staff member from Eckard who recruited his younger brother into the program he worked at (you are a liar Aaron) be attacking a ex staff member from Elan. Aaron is trying to use survivors from various programs to accompany him in doing this. He keeps picking on None Ya.
As to the comments concerning where is Danny... :rofl:
Aaron for someone who likes to talk like a tuff guy you can contradict yourself sometimes.
I threatened Matt please do cite where I did this.
Oh BTW, Matt came into Elan in 1974 I came in 1975, I was taught and educated by Matt and his fellow residents.
Anne Bonney aka (Kim Morelli who posts on Sub Reddit Trouble Teen Group) posted a pic of her ass on her boat with the serial # showing right there for everyone to see. Please do cite where I threatened her.
Rape, sodomy, penises, vaginas, breasts, asses, females and males, I am not impressed. This is the internet you are going to have to do much better then this, before I spend my money. Something you folks need to remember that don't have money, the reason people like me have money is because we earn it, we worked for it and we don't like wasting it on sick perverts like Wayne Kernochan.
As I have said many times (everyone In my family and circle of friends and business associates) have read everything that is posted here and on various other sites including Waynes Secret FaceBook site (they are not all your friends). I have also had a lawyer and a prosecuting attorney read all this. We have all agreed Wayne and his supporters will have to do much better then this and I personally want them too. Actually I am banking on it.
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I understand the paranoia here on fornits because most of these profiles are fake, but I'm not Wayne and I'm the one who said Marc Rosenberg is posting from Danny's profile. One minute he can't spell cat if you gave him the C and the A, and the next he posts a manifesto with words Danny can't spell and words he doesn't understand
I was in Elan with Danny. The vulgar posts filled with grammatical errors and misspellings are Danny. The post about CAFETY is not. Is None Ya Danny? I'm not sure 100% but I am convinced someone is posting under Danny's name here
Again, the rumor was Danny was fired for having sex with residents. No one was ever fired from Elan for being abusive. That's bullshit
Yes you are, just the fact you have to keep coming on here to tell us you are not, proves this.
What is this your 10th time.
Liar!!!
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Danny would know because he's a serial stalker and most prolific fornits abuser.
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That I would have paid $50,000 a year to see
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I was there in 1977. It was less then.
But, I meant is I would have paid the bill to see that.
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And I'd wish Danny would stop trying to tell me what I believe and don't believe.
When I regularly have said I only believe that the possibility of rape happening at Elan is very real. I can see someone like Danny as a staffer being involved in rape. But I think I need more than just Wayne's word for it.
I think I've been pretty clear on this.
And yes, I've bitched at people on reddit and facebook about not getting caught up in the Danny B. show. Why wouldn't I? I don't want to see reddit, facebook, or bebo over-run with the Danny B fake profiles, Danny B's attempts at sneaking into groups he's been banned from, Danny B's bullshit, Danny B's drunken idiocy, Danny B's war on Wayne, and nor do I want to hear it from anyone else.
Fucking moronic is what it is.
Who the fuck wants to go down this retarded asshole show on yet another forum? I don't mind it here, this place is perfect for it. It's already a bit of a pit.
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Given I think you are a creepy disturbed little fucker, no not at all. And fuck you, I never once mentioned anything about your nephew. I'm the one that told them to knock it off.
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Given I think you are a creepy disturbed little fucker, no not at all. And fuck you, I never once mentioned anything about your nephew. I'm the one that told them to knock it off.
OK, just so I get this straight you really think I raped and sodomized people. All based on comments made on the internet. You are comfortable assuming I did these horrible actions.
Well that helps me out, Aaron.
Thanks.
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Given I think you are a creepy disturbed little fucker, no not at all. And fuck you, I never once mentioned anything about your nephew. I'm the one that told them to knock it off.
OK, just so I get this straight you really think I raped and sodomized people. All based on comments made on the internet. You are comfortable assuming I did these horrible actions.
Well that helps me out, Aaron.
Thanks.
I do. A lot of people do
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Given I think you are a creepy disturbed little fucker, no not at all. And fuck you, I never once mentioned anything about your nephew. I'm the one that told them to knock it off.
OK, just so I get this straight you really think I raped and sodomized people. All based on comments made on the internet. You are comfortable assuming I did these horrible actions.
Well that helps me out, Aaron.
Thanks.
I do. A lot of people do
And some do not. And some are not sure.
Danny, I really do miss your "rebuttal of Wayne's book" thread. I looked forward to reading all of your updates in it. Perhaps you could consider returning it or some semblance of it to the forum?
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I said I'm going to need more than Wayne's word. But I'm not gonna lie, I do think the possibility exists. But possibility is a hell of a lot different than definitely, which you seem to keep ignoring for some weird reason.
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I'm convinced. A lot of people are
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I was enjoying the rebuttal thing too. But Danny deleted it all
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I said I'm going to need more than Wayne's word. But I'm not gonna lie, I do think the possibility exists. But possibility is a hell of a lot different than definitely, which you seem to keep ignoring for some weird reason.
Why do you have to take everything to the extreme. Is it that important to you to make me look that bad here. Oh wow now we have Danny on raping and sodomizing, the van dragging wasn't enough. If you can remember back far enough I didn't even exist, I was Marty.
Aaron this is sick and I find it hard to believe that you can be on the "CAFETY" site right now as I write debating with a program owner about oversight and your also down here calling me a rapist and a sodomite based upon fucking internet posts.
I am a survivor of 11 years, I have been molested while incarcerated (Wayne knew this from 2 years ago) as a young child. Why do you think he is throwing this up in my face all of a sudden. Nothing these sick fuckers post is without a purpose.
Wayne was the first one to mention my nephew, threaten my sister and her daughter ect.... and you are backing this sick fuck.
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I think you did it. A lot of people do
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Wayne Kernochan....looks to be a con artist. None of my business, assuredly. But, pretty horrible to witness the destruction of someone's reputation, nonetheless.
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Re: Lies Told by (Wayne K) that went Awry of Elan!
Postby DannyB II » Yesterday, 9:30 pm Here is some interesting PM Wayne sent here. I think they speak for themselves. I can't make this shit up.
Re: Wayne
Sent: September 19th, 2011, 10:38 am From: Wayne Kernochan To: DannyB II
I don't mind that you're writing a book, what made me suspicious is that you didn't ask me to write it. I have news for you, Go Go Rach is in with the self publishing people on my Face Book page, she never would have gotten you published, I would have
Program people will never let you out from under this shit, but there's the other 99.99% of the world to consider. Lets erase the shit from fornits and start over. But, let's not friend each other right away.
Send me what you have from before you went to Elan. I'll give you a first chapter that you'll like. I'll even (as a ghost writer) discredit my own book.
I'm editing the next book for my publisher, then if you want, I'll write a book about you that will make these people understand what really happened
You're famous for all the wrong reasons. I can fix that. I'm good at this. I'll friend you after it's on Amazon and B&N. I can't guarantee people will buy it, but I think they will.
I want whatever you gave Rach for this. I'm not a crack head and I need help, if you want to be friends, help me, I'm not these things you think I am. I am worth helping out
I'll call you tomorrow morning if you're inclined to do this. Its not a game, I have a lot to lose if I did something hurtful. Writing is all I care about right now, I wouldn't jeopardize my reputation for money.
Wayne ?June 22Danny Bennison Your Book I don't mind you promoting it on our site, Wayne. Really!! It may make you feel uncomfortable and I have thought of this. But I have really put some brain into this and I keep coming up with that if we are to reconcile then we must first acknowledge together the truth. I just wanted to put this out there for some careful consideration. Your friend Danny
Re: Wayne
Sent: September 19th, 2011, 4:17 pm From: Wayne Kernochan To: DannyB II Your biggest mistake is that you think I'm trying to hurt you. I get angry and say fucked up things, but I've apologized and tried to be a good friend.
Listen, if you tell the world I'm writing your book these people will do everything possible to ruin it. They will succeed because we know how to push each others buttons, and we're dirty motherfuckers when we want our way.
My wife just told me at the dentist's office that she thinks a book about you would be a big seller. I'm intrigued by the idea. You can put my name on the cover for all I care, I just don't need the bullshit while I write, and there will be bullshit
All the things you said in your post can be written in. I have no doubt that you're not this angry guy on the internet, but Go Go was right to say "Stay away from the internet"
BTW, reread that Dingbattery thread and you'll see I didn't say anything bad about you, I wasn't making a joke at your expense, the girl asked if the picture was me. Your message came out of left field and it hurt me. I didn't do anything wrong
And, since you can't read between the lines, it bothered me that you asked someone else and not me to help you write it
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. I do find it interesting that Danny is blathering away on fornits in yet another ID.
Are you saying I’m Danny? This Wayne, whoever, whatever, person spammed the net with this feud. That’s how I’m aware of the subject. You?
After reading the threads I was linked to, I find the situation outrageous. That Wayne character emailed this Danny person and told him, among with other incriminating revelations, that he’d secretly write a book describing “what really happened” for Danny even though that will “discredit his own book” if Danny would please give him the same amount of money he was going to give “rach”.
Is that the sort of letter you write to your alleged rapist and brutalizer that you're terrified of?
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This is also outrageous:
The Driver is a story about the streets of New York in the 1980s, and my involvement with Jimmy Coonan and a group of neighborhood gangsters that the media dubbed "The Westies." I wasn't one of them, I was a confused kid who drove a NYC taxicab and got in with a bad crowd. After I separated myself from them, Jimmy asked me to do a job for him, a simple pick up. The problem is that the man who picked me for the job was John Gotti, the guy I picked up was Richard 'the iceman' Kuklinski, and the job was the execution of Gambino crime boss Paul Castellano [/b]
What is the likelihood that Wayne Kernochan is an accomplice to the assassination of famed mafia boss Paul Castellano?
This Wayne Kernochan guy also threatened, on the internet, where everyone could read it, to make up sex crimes accusations if he "needed to" in order “get” the danny person, after the Danny guy started pointing out factual inaccuracies in his novel.
Was Wayne Kernochan even @ Elan or the Costellano hit? That's my last comment, on something I shouldn't have commented on in the first place.
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Maybe because it's you've been busted in dozens of lies here over the years, or because you're a stalker and abuser of survivors (especially women) or maybe because you make jokes about it, or maybe because you have an abusive nature.
Or maybe it's because you admitted to sexually abusing that girl and changed the story after you were busted lying about her age, then changed the story (after two weeks) to "I didn't have sex with her"
I think you did it. A lot of people do
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I also think Wayne killed Don Corleone. A lot of people do
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Wow.. this thread is great.. Thanks for the clarification.... LOL!
Anyhow thus far, this is what I am getting from it all..
Wayne is accusing danny of sodomizing him, forcing another dude to blow him, and raping ( statutory) another girl.
This is a stupid place to discuss this, but I really can t think of any better.
I would be curious if Wayne would be willing to scan those progress reports that he mentions on his radio appearance, and post them up... I am sorry.. Overall, I think he probably went there, but it is odd that nobody know shim, and anyone who comes up saying that they know him now could be anybody, or in most cases, Mark Babitz..
Danny, why were you forced to leave Elan?
Paul
PS Does anybody else realize what a big deal this is? Not only is man being accused of numerous sex crimes, but if he is innocent, this brings Wayne's whole book into question, which, outside of Elan closing is probably one of the biggest accomplishments for the Elan community.
PSS This thread is written primarily for the few people who actually have brains and care to use them.. There are those posts that ooze and perplex, and then there are those that stand like solid bricks... Amongst the ooze, I see a few bricks, and from that can guess taht there some decent minds who are actually interested...
PSS None-Ya is not Danny. danny is Danny.. None-Ya is None-Ya.. Now if what Wayne said on his radio appearance is true, that 3 different people pm ed him that No0ne-Ya is Danny, it was probably all the same person using different names, or dishonest people who just don t care what is true.
PSSS Wayne, if you are on the up and up, you should probably watch who you associate with. To some of these people, you may just be a tool.
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I said I'm going to need more than Wayne's word. But I'm not gonna lie, I do think the possibility exists. But possibility is a hell of a lot different than definitely, which you seem to keep ignoring for some weird reason.
Why do you have to take everything to the extreme. Is it that important to you to make me look that bad here. Oh wow now we have Danny on raping and sodomizing, the van dragging wasn't enough. If you can remember back far enough I didn't even exist, I was Marty.
Aaron this is sick and I find it hard to believe that you can be on the "CAFETY" site right now as I write debating with a program owner about oversight and your also down here calling me a rapist and a sodomite based upon fucking internet posts.
I am a survivor of 11 years, I have been molested while incarcerated (Wayne knew this from 2 years ago) as a young child. Why do you think he is throwing this up in my face all of a sudden. Nothing these sick fuckers post is without a purpose.
Wayne was the first one to mention my nephew, threaten my sister and her daughter ect.... and you are backing this sick fuck.
Danny was fucked in the ass in a prison orgy. I wonder who will play him in the movie :rofl:
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A few points.
3. I don't have to prove what's in my book is true, Danny and Elan have to prove it's not. They've been working hard on that and can't. Believe it or don't, at this point I don't give a fuck.
I'm sorry, man.. but this where our views on things differ. In a world, where that were the case, things would be very backwards... and well.. fucked up.
The burden of proof is always on the accuser. When law/science/reasoning or anything is practiced properly, innocence never needs to be proven. Guilt has to be established rather... and this is not done through a person writing a book. The person can be anyone and have any motive, or even be mistaken.. Now, perhaps, you consider yourself a straight up guy... but if we applied your logic universally, can you imagine what type of world we would live in...
Anybody could write anything about anyone, and then that person would have to take time out of their lives to disprove it. If you did not like someone, you could just have a bunch of people write stories about them, and they would have to spend so much time disproving things, they would lose all else.
and that's just scratching the surface.. If you apply the principle you are assuming, elsewhere, which, if it is right, there would be no reason not too...
You would have to disprove the claims of every insane person, before you could put them away.... AmityVille Horror guy heard voices, and I can t disprove it.. Until, we can disprove it, we must assume it happenned.
has anyone wrote a book, that thoroughly refutes every detail Mein Kampf, because afterall, we must be fair here, and until that is done, we must assume that everything in the book is true...
Do you see what I am getting at? If not, I don t know what to tell you... Neither Danny nor Elan can called u[pon to claim a negative. I simply don t know for sure, that your claims are correct. You are the only person who has said anything about Danny committing sex crimes, especailly upon other males... I cannot assume it is true, just because someone has said it.
Even this whole fucking van story.. why is there no one who can say- " I WAS THERE! I REMEMBER IT CLEARLY! AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENNED!"
Paul St. John
Paul St. John
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Given I think you are a creepy disturbed little fucker, no not at all. And fuck you, I never once mentioned anything about your nephew. I'm the one that told them to knock it off.
OK, just so I get this straight you really think I raped and sodomized people. All based on comments made on the internet. You are comfortable assuming I did these horrible actions.
Well that helps me out, Aaron.
Thanks.
I do. A lot of people do
And some do not. And some are not sure.
Danny, I really do miss your "rebuttal of Wayne's book" thread. I looked forward to reading all of your updates in it. Perhaps you could consider returning it or some semblance of it to the forum?
Don't know if you are being serious or not but I will answer anyway. I will be bringing it back I am just having it done a bit more professionally. I want to post it all at once so the trolls can not interrupt the consistency.
There is no way I would deprive Fornits.
It will be back in a week at the most.
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New postby anotherusername » 34 minutes ago
janisfriend wrote:
I have some questions for Wayne K and for all those who know Wayne either through the whole Elan School thing, Facebook, his authorship or even through the Jani Foundation. I come more from an interest in the Jani Foundation and am not really affiliated with the current drama though I have seen plenty of it over the last couple of days.
First of all, how many of you here were students at the Elan school and were abused there?
How many of you have read Wayne's book and find it to be accurate and factual?
How many of those people above know of the Jani Foundation and what it is about?
And how many of those people know the complete story of Jani Schofield of which that so called foundation is named after and who's mother Susan Schofield is the creator of the radio show Bipolar Nation that Wayne recently had an appearance on?
The reason I ask is because I found it very interesting that Wayne supported the Jani Foundation even claiming on amazon that proceeds of his Elan book go to the JF (The Jani Foundation is not a real foundation btw, it is a paypal account that gives money to the parents of Jani Schofield). I mostly found it interesting because most people who know about Jani Schofield don't know that Jani has been abused herself. No, not in a treatment facility or residential but in her own home mostly by her father. It baffles me how a person claiming to have been an abused youth, who has written a book about it could actually support people who abused their own child.
I am just wondering if any of you kind folks have any comments or insight as to these quandries. I urge anyone reading to read Michael Schofields blog in full where he relays many instances of abuse of his daughter always excusing his actions and blaming her mental illness. Will we be hearing responses from the ever vocal "Falcon Wings" aka "BeatleBangs"on this forum? And if so, is it true that you have commissioned Wayne to be a ghost writer for your book as well?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
It's unlikely "Wayne Kernochan" was ever in Elan. When not claiming to be an elan victim, he claims to have help execute mafia leader, Paul Castellano.
Wayne Kernochan wrote:The Driver is a story about the streets of New York in the 1980s, and my involvement with Jimmy Coonan and a group of neighborhood gangsters that the media dubbed "The Westies." I wasn't one of them, I was a confused kid who drove a NYC taxicab and got in with a bad crowd. After I separated myself from them, Jimmy asked me to do a job for him, a simple pick up. The problem is that the man who picked me for the job was John Gotti, the guy I picked up was Richard 'the iceman' Kuklinski, and the job was the execution of Gambino crime boss Paul Castellano
No credible person remembers him being at Elan. If you read through the Elan forum, you can get a handle on how people can prove themselves uncredible.
The y23 person you are communicating with pretended to be someone called "yevette," before admitting to be a man, and now claiming to be staff.
I don't know what sort of support for your cause you can expect to get by appealing for it on this forum. Good luck.
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Given I think you are a creepy disturbed little fucker, no not at all. And fuck you, I never once mentioned anything about your nephew. I'm the one that told them to knock it off.
OK, just so I get this straight you really think I raped and sodomized people. All based on comments made on the internet. You are comfortable assuming I did these horrible actions.
Well that helps me out, Aaron.
Thanks.
I do. A lot of people do
And some do not. And some are not sure.
Danny, I really do miss your "rebuttal of Wayne's book" thread. I looked forward to reading all of your updates in it. Perhaps you could consider returning it or some semblance of it to the forum?
Don't know if you are being serious or not but I will answer anyway. I will be bringing it back I am just having it done a bit more professionally. I want to post it all at once so the trolls can not interrupt the consistency.
There is no way I would deprive Fornits.
It will be back in a week at the most.
Oh, I was quite serious. However, I think I rather prefer the real deal, the dark and dirty DannyB ... to the more "professionally polished" version. I suspect that there might be some key elements lost in the translation, so to speak.
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Oh, I was quite serious. However, I think I rather prefer the real deal, the dark and dirty DannyB ... to the more "professionally polished" version. I suspect that there might be some key elements lost in the translation, so to speak.
Why would you want a rebuttal, if you have no intention of being objective?? Is their a reason you have to consistently undermine everything I do here on fornits??
Finally, do you really believe I am dark and dirty, just want to know??
Why is it you can't comment on the information brought forward that contradicts what Wayne has said??
Is there a reason you can not see my side of this and look at it reasonably??
Am I nothing but a liar, someone you can't trust.??
Have I shown you a character trait that is deceitful, treacherous and totally insensitive to others??
Is there a part of me I have shown you that I am unaware of that could rape, sodomize, have a 14 yr old
child (young woman) beaten and kicked senseless by 20 people (twice) then take the same child and tie her to the back of a Van and
drag her around a black top parking lot, have a young girl 17 stand up in front of a house and ask everyone
if they want to rape her, then proceed to rape her myself, then on another day sodomize 2 young men including the author of the book??
Is this what you mean by dark and dirty??
Please do tell me Ursus if this is where you are going?? If you have been so effected by me that you can not even be objective anymore.
That your damaged emotions will allow you to entertain vindictiveness and revenge.
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Oh, I was quite serious. However, I think I rather prefer the real deal, the dark and dirty DannyB ... to the more "professionally polished" version. I suspect that there might be some key elements lost in the translation, so to speak.
Why would you want a rebuttal, if you have no intention of being objective?? Is their a reason you have to consistently undermine everything I do here on fornits??
Finally, do you really believe I am dark and dirty, just want to know?? Yes
Why is it you can't comment on the information brought forward that contradicts what Wayne has said?? Because you've provided no proof
Is there a reason you can not see my side of this and look at it reasonably?? Because you're a liar and abuser
Am I nothing but a liar, someone you can't trust.?? Bingo
Have I shown you a character trait that is deceitful, treacherous and totally insensitive to others?? Absolutely
Is there a part of me I have shown you that I am unaware of that could rape, sodomize, have a 14 yr old
child (young woman) beaten and kicked senseless by 20 people (twice) then take the same child and tie her to the back of a Van and
drag her around a black top parking lot, have a young girl 17 stand up in front of a house and ask everyone
if they want to rape her, then proceed to rape her myself, then on another day sodomize 2 young men including the author of the book?? Always
Is this what you mean by dark and dirty?? Yes
Please do tell me Ursus if this is where you are going?? If you have been so effected by me that you can not even be objective anymore.
That your damaged emotions will allow you to entertain vindictiveness and revenge.
I'll leave the last question alone since you're addressing Ursus
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Oh, I was quite serious. However, I think I rather prefer the real deal, the dark and dirty DannyB ... to the more "professionally polished" version. I suspect that there might be some key elements lost in the translation, so to speak.
Why would you want a rebuttal, if you have no intention of being objective?? Is their a reason you have to consistently undermine everything I do here on fornits??
< sigh > Ya know, Danny, you are your own worst enemy. Why do you so frequently assume the worst possible interpretation of someone's intentions? I guess I should say that I can't really speak for anyone else here, but... this seems to have been *my* experience with you. (That said, I could also be wrong, and misunderstanding something, and guilty of the very thing I chide you for.)
Where do you read that I "have no intention of being objective?" What did I say that caused you to interpret that I was "consistently undermin[ing]" you? Most of the time, I'm too busy with other stuff to even bother injecting myself in your battles, colorful as they may be.
I'll admit, I don't mind an occasional spar with you on the threads, but... there's a limit. My cutoff point being, apparently, quite a bit lower than yours.
Finally, do you really believe I am dark and dirty, just want to know??
Lol. "Dark and dirty" refers to the raw uncut or less cut version, the implication being that its power, worthiness of interest, flavor, etc. has not been marred or damaged by excessive pruning or prettying up. E.g., dark and dirty stout ale, dark and dirty Cabernet, dark and dirty apple cider, etc. The appearance of the brew or extract is more opaque, the flavor more pronounced, having not been excessively filtered. It was meant as a complement.
Why is it you can't comment on the information brought forward that contradicts what Wayne has said??
In the interest of fairness and the furthering of discussion, I've been trying to stay somewhat on the fringes. It seemed that, thus far, both pov's were being adequately expressed. And I thought you were doing a great job with the rebuttal. However, you are the only one who can really state your case like that.
Is there a reason you can not see my side of this and look at it reasonably??
Am I nothing but a liar, someone you can't trust.??
Have I shown you a character trait that is deceitful, treacherous and totally insensitive to others??
Is there a part of me I have shown you that I am unaware of that could rape, sodomize, have a 14 yr old
child (young woman) beaten and kicked senseless by 20 people (twice) then take the same child and tie her to the back of a Van and
drag her around a black top parking lot, have a young girl 17 stand up in front of a house and ask everyone
if they want to rape her, then proceed to rape her myself, then on another day sodomize 2 young men including the author of the book??
Is this what you mean by dark and dirty??
Please do tell me Ursus if this is where you are going?? If you have been so effected by me that you can not even be objective anymore.
That your damaged emotions will allow you to entertain vindictiveness and revenge.
Mmm. Again, I think your speculations here are, as I mentioned above, presuming a bit much. I trust that ample opportunity to discuss specifics will come up in the soon to be resuscitated rebuttal thread?
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< sigh > Ya know, Danny, you are your own worst enemy. Why do you so frequently assume the worst possible interpretation of someone's intentions? I guess I should say that I can't really speak for anyone else here, but... this seems to have been *my* experience with you. (That said, I could also be wrong, and misunderstanding something, and guilty of the very thing I chide you for.)
Where do you read that I "have no intention of being objective?" What did I say that caused you to interpret that I was "consistently undermin[ing]" you? Most of the time, I'm too busy with other stuff to even bother injecting myself in your battles, colorful as they may be.
I'll admit, I don't mind an occasional spar with you on the threads, but... there's a limit. My cutoff point being, apparently, quite a bit lower than yours.
Since the subject we are talking about is dark and dirty excuse me for misunderstanding your choice of words. I sincerely doubt that there was anyone who understood where you were coming from.
When did you upgrade your cutoff point for bickering, when my other half left.
All this worst enemy and assuming the worst interpretation stuff is all well Ursus but it is not the point. The point was to get you on record on where you stand. I appreciate your efforts although it appears you
labored a bit.
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Re: Wayne K and Jani Foundation?
Postby janisfriend » Yesterday, 18:00
YV23 wrote:Apparently you read too much into the blog. If it was abuse the authorities would have done something about it. Who are you, and why should I take the word of someone who won't tell us their name?
I think you're full of shit
It's not rocket science. Jani was shaken as a two month old infant. She was not taken to the hospital following the incident. For the next 4 -5 years she was hit by her parents, they starved her, she witnessed violence between them and then they had the boy. Susan is a bipolar and she was having post pardum depression when they put Jani in the psych ward for the first time. Sometime around this time they had an MRI done that showed ischemia to her thalamus that was likely an old injury from being shaken as an infant. But of course the Dr.'s having no knowledge of the shaking assumed it was a birth injury. Meanwhile in the psych ward Jani is being put on all kids of drugs none of which are stopping her so called "imaginary world/ slash halucinations".
Meanwhile Michael and Susan are securing TV spots with Oprah, 20/20, Discovery Health, LA times and they even tried Dr. Phil. Ask yourself... what parent who has a child THAT ill (supposedly) is going to waste any time or energy looking for TV spots? Oh and then getting an agent (Steve Truitt I believe) and a book deal on top of that... Oh and of course Susan keeping up with a weekly talk radio show.
Jani was slapped with this label and drugged for many of the same reasons so many of you were dumped in Elan - for being a so called "oout of control" kid. How many of you were abused or neglected before ending up in Elan?
That's fine, don't take my word for it. look into it for yourself. >janijourney.org. And go to FB and read their pages there "jani FOundation" "Bipolar Nation Radio" as well as their personal pages where just last week Susan was going on and on about their 4 year old son being schizophrenic too while dosing him with benedryl to get him to sleep.
And as for you Wayne... I think it's YOU who is looking for some sort of celebrity. After all it was you who appeared on Bipolar Nation Talk radio just two weeks ago. When is YOUR TV appearance?
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So now you're helping raise money for child abusers? Don't worry, a piece of your action won't buy lunch.
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I understand the paranoia here on fornits because most of these profiles are fake, but I'm not Wayne and I'm the one who said Marc Rosenberg is posting from Danny's profile. One minute he can't spell cat if you gave him the C and the A, and the next he posts a manifesto with words Danny can't spell and words he doesn't understand
I was in Elan with Danny. The vulgar posts filled with grammatical errors and misspellings are Danny. The post about CAFETY is not. Is None Ya Danny? I'm not sure 100% but I am convinced someone is posting under Danny's name here
Again, the rumor was Danny was fired for having sex with residents. No one was ever fired from Elan for being abusive. That's bullshit
marc rosenberg cant spell worth a shit half the time... especially when he refuses to step away from his crack pipe.... which he still prefers along with all the rest
of his party favors....and playing head games with anyone he gets near