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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: 82Lifer on January 18, 2006, 12:54:00 PM
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Hello, anyone who is interested. I just happen to stumble upon this site after a dead spot in my brain opened up and I thought ?hum, wonder if there is any info on L.I.F.E. on the ol interweb?. Amazing what one can think about 24 years later?.I have read thru most of the post and have seen the different points of views had by the posters. So I thought I would post my story about being incarcerated in L.I.F.E?.
I entered the program in Aug. 1982?.
I will start by saying I was incarcerated because that?s what it was, I was court ordered after being arrested for possession of narcotics. Well not exactly, my parents had taken the suggestion from another friend who was in the program with the same situation. I was talked into joining because I was told it would be a much lighter sentence then if I just went in front of the Judge. I was over 18 at the time, so basically as I learned I signed myself in. I was scared at having to go to jail though so I agreed with my folks and the friend that was in the program. So when my trial came up they did Court Order me to the program.. Amazing how that happened? I really thought that I would be through with the program in a couple of months and everything would be OK. I believe I was in the program for close to a year overall. I completed it to obtain a ?adjudicated not guilty? sentence. I did just follow the motions and cause as little trouble as possible just to get it over with, which really pissed off the staffers. Weird thing was is half of the staffers at that time I had done drugs with during the past 2 years, so I would sit there and just think you all are full of it.
I was never physically abused because I was older and a larger male. I was though told to restrain people even when I was a 1st phaser because I was larger and I guess had no fear of being hit by a flailing misbehavior?.I was though I feel mentally abused, I was called a liar and fake continually, the ?witch? would just stand me up and scream at me during raps?I do not feel that this has any effect on me today, but back then I did get quite abit of hatred out of it.
The program might have taught me a few things about myself, especially that I will always be in control of my actions. It did not however make me stop doing drugs, after I got out I stepped right back into drugs again, but not out of spite just because that is what I wanted to do. I did have a fear of being arrested again, and this played a big part in me finally quitting almost all drugs except for a few cocktails every now and again. I do not drink and drive when I am drinking and I always keep myself in control. I am a 44 year old adult male, successful in my career, married for 15 years and happy with what I have accomplished so far.
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Want share a first name? I was also there in 1982.
Pat
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Welcome.. I think :wink:
Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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Sure First name is Scott, I knew one Pat (Male) I am thinking of...If this is him, Hey Dude hope you are well...There is alot about the time period that I can not recall. Serioulsy just a big blank space in my mind. But then again that is what I tried to achieve of this time period...
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The Program is sort of like the `70's that way; if you remember it, you weren't really there.
I believe that when I die I shall rot, and nothing of my ego will survive. I am not young, and I love life. But I should scorn to shiver with terror at the thought of annihilation. Happiness is none the less true happiness because it must come to an end, nor do thought and love lose their value because they are not everlasting.
--Bertrand Russell, British philosopher, educator, mathemetician, and social critic
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Pretty Correct Anti, Since discovering this site 2 days ago I have been trying to recall some things from this time frame. I swear all I can recount is a few staffers "what they looked liked", Mrs. Pete...Very Scary and some raps from like 1st phase, I remeber the staffers that I knew from prior to entering, and I remember a few people, mainly misbehaviors that I was ordered to restrain...I remember a few of the houses that I stayed at as a 1st phaser. I know where I went to work when I was able I believe on 5th phase, But i can not remember 7 stepping or anything...Yet I can remmeber much more from the years prior to 82 and much more from te years after 83 or 84..
Not sure if I really want to but it might be interesting to say the least..I am sure now thatI am thinking about it more things will start popping up in my dreams, or maybe they will be nightmares...
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Last post was mine..
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Man, I remember 3 or 4 Scott's from my time there. Can't figure which one you are.
Pat
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Hey 82Lifer..welcome. I know just where you're coming from on the "blank spot in the brain". Just curious - has something recently come up in your life related to LIFE?
Also... did you know of a sibling team while you were in there - Glen and Bob?science is the record of dead religions.
--Oscar Wilde
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.....I stepped right back into drugs again, but not out of spite just because that is what I wanted to do. I did have a fear of being arrested again, and this played a big part in me finally quitting almost all drugs except for a few cocktails every now and again. I do not drink and drive when I am drinking and I always keep myself in control. I am a 44 year old adult male, successful in my career, married for 15 years and happy with what I have accomplished so far. "
FINALLY! Someone who tells it like it is! You mean you can ignore The Witch's admonition to not "go where it's slippery" and acually live like a normal human being? REALLY???
But seriously... if some of the old staffers happen by here, be prepared to be accused of:
1. Being a loser
2. Devoting your life to Fornits because you decided to post here (ironic, I know)
3. Being an "airhead", "brain dead", "mean spirited" or some other synonym thereof since you don't attend the reunions or the modern day Church of Petermann.
Welcome again, Infidel! :grin:A vote for GW is a vote for America's Führer.
--Anonymous (it's best that way...)
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No can't say anything came up other then curiosity to see if there was anything on the interweb about LIFE...So a quick search and here I am...Actually still drive by the old building atleast once a week, but it really triggers nothing, then again I have lived here for 44 years...Glen and Bob, nope, no recall..must be in the blank hole..Then again I had no sibling interaction..
Pat, just think Large Male, came in court ordered, does that help you sigle out anyone Scott..Did you ever go out on a boat in your later phases???
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On 2006-01-20 05:10:00, 82Lifer wrote:
"No can't say anything came up other then curiosity to see if there was anything on the interweb about LIFE...So a quick search and here I am...Actually still drive by the old building atleast once a week, but it really triggers nothing, then again I have lived here for 44 years...Glen and Bob, nope, no recall..must be in the blank hole..Then again I had no sibling interaction..
What do you mean by sibling interaction? They were in there too, just happened to be related. I think Glen went on to be staff, or a very active 7 stepper. They had other family involved too - I think there were like 4 from that family.
Freedom has a thousand charms to show, That slaves, howe'er contented, never know.
William Cowper, a British Christian poet & hymn writer (18th century)
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Where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket??
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[ This Message was edited by: Helena Handbasket on 2006-01-21 02:18 ]
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On 2006-01-19 19:59:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:
"But seriously... if some of the old staffers happen by here, be prepared to be accused of:
1. Being a loser
2. Devoting your life to Fornits because you decided to post here (ironic, I know)
3. Being an "airhead", "brain dead", "mean spirited" or some other synonym thereof since you don't attend the reunions or the modern day Church of Petermann."
4. Being a liar
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On 2006-01-21 02:17:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:
"What do you mean by sibling interaction? They were in there too, just happened to be related. I think Glen went on to be staff, or a very active 7 stepper. They had other family involved too - I think there were like 4 from that family."
Usually, when they talked about "siblings" in LIFE, they were referring to the "siblings group". This was a part of the program for the kids who weren't actually in the program, but had a brother or sister who was.
That's probably what he was thinking. (Yes, I know you didn't ask me. :smile: )
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That's probably what he was thinking. (Yes, I know you didn't ask me. :smile: )"
Yeah, who asked you anyway! :lol:
But yeah, I can understand that. I thought they just recruited the sibs the following week for having a "Druggie Relative"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture
is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin
to understand me?
--O'Brien to Winston Smith
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On 2006-01-20 05:10:00, 82Lifer wrote:
"No can't say anything came up other then curiosity to see if there was anything on the interweb about LIFE...So a quick search and here I am...Actually still drive by the old building atleast once a week, but it really triggers nothing, then again I have lived here for 44 years...Glen and Bob, nope, no recall..must be in the blank hole..Then again I had no sibling interaction..
Pat, just think Large Male, came in court ordered, does that help you sigle out anyone Scott..Did you ever go out on a boat in your later phases???"
OK, I'm thinking of a Scott "E" (I don't want to spell it out). Is this you?
Pat
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Yep, Pat you got it...Now if I knew which Pat you where, or i'm I right about you going out on the boat with me during the time?? I think this was the only Pat I knew..Other then I think there was a female staffer Pat but I am not sure..
As far as my thing on Sibling stuff, I knew there was sibling raps and such, but I did not have a any siblings involved...Got involved and wanted to kow as littel as possible.Went thru the motions, kept broad shoulders, and kept an eye on that "light at the end of the tunnel"...
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Dang it, forgot to log in again. Last post was mine..
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Hey guys. I remember you both. I was in from June of 82 to Dec 83. My sister was in there too (she was older too).
82lifer - were you thin but very muscular? I'll never forget your voice, or a couple of the tales you told.