On 2003-04-07 19:57:00, Tampa survivor wrote:
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I rag the occasional overt moron , or religous fanatic of whatever stripe now or then, but this shit between some decent people has gone too far.
| It is kind of like ice cream, there may be 31 flavors, but they are all ice cream and most of them are quite tasty. To say some one is doomed because they believe in God differently is taking God's job. |
On 2003-04-08 16:07:00, Tampa survivor wrote:
"I was asked 2 questions about who I was directing my above comments to. Hmm, read my 3oo+ posts stored on the hard drive at fornits and figure that one out yourself. What ya see is what you get baby..
...and POEWERFUL Attitude, I guess the frenzy of your religous talking got you going well enough to forget to ask the SECOND one.
Well Survivor,
If you looked closely you would have realized I didn't say, "Respond to". I said, "I am willed to respond". But I did make one type-o. It should have said "First "A" question". Now that we got that resolved don't you feel stupid ranting like the devil's advocate. I think you were the one on the frenzy that you didn't read what I wrote twice, or you are blind. Post all you want about being an Anti-Christ I believe it speaks load enough. I don't feel I even need to respond.
Oh Clay,
Have all the 31 flavors you want no wonder you're so confused. The real reason why you hate so much is because you hear the Word talking about you. Yes. He is the only one who can see right into your soul. Other than that you can tell everyone that you are an Anti as well. I will just sit back and laugh. You have said enough for both of us. Thanks
P.A.
| On 2003-04-08 19:03:00, Powerful Attitude wrote: "I don't now who you pray to since you don't worship Christ, that is kind of eerie. No thanks. But I will pray for us in Jesus Christ's name." |
| On 2003-04-10 11:17:00, Tampa survivor wrote: "Amen on the judgemental thing Peacefrog. Bill" |
On 2003-04-13 08:51:00, wayeast wrote: "I skim these pages rather than reading every post, so I'm not clear on all of the inter-relationships. Am I correct in understanding that Powerful Attitude was a Straightling at one time? Having taken that route myself, I'm curious to know whether he feels any cognitive dissonance over his point of view: that anyone who disagrees with him disagrees with God. P.A. isn't able to see the arrogance of this, because he's let himself be convinced that he's being loyal to a higher power. He might humbly state that he knows very little in the grand scheme of things, but he knows Jesus, and that's all he needs to know. It's disturbing that he can't see the similarity between his own attitude and that of the Straight founders, but is it really surprising? When we're under stress, we go to the things with which we are familiar. An abused child will want to stay with the abusive parent because they are familiar. Maybe this is why so many of us leave one cult for another. I personally think P.A. *has* to keep sharing his faith, because if he ever stops, he'll see that it is based on fear and whipped air. Only by converting others can he comfort himself that he's got the Truth. " |
"Richard, while I'm not going to defend our reigious fruitcakes I have to say, I have a personal relationship with my wife and she doesn't have total control of my thoughts."
"a relationship where one person demands the partner in the relationship follow their every whim upon pain of severe punishment be equal to slavery?"
"a little arrogance (maybe really only confidence) and more extreme, self-centered arrogance? Must we always be at one extreme to avoid the opposite extreme? A little arrogance won't hurt you. Try it."
On 2003-04-23 18:33:00, wayeast wrote:
"I've heard this pitch before, and it would be funny if so many people didn't fall for it. I haven't seen anyone here criticize god in any way: it's evangelicals that are taking the heat. The only thing is, the evangelicals can't believe it's really about them. So they come up with this theory that everybody who has a problem with certain Christians is resisting god's will."
On 2003-04-23 18:33:00, wayeast wrote:
"This is not an endorsement of the post talking about bread of life and not being hungry, by the way. The bread of life is a metaphor not intended to be taken literally."
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Put it this way, if a wine drinker found an old bottle in the cellar, they would want to share the joy they had found.That's what a believer does.
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
But from my point of view, none of you are debating Buddha, or Mohammed, or any other religion. Just Christianity. And it seems to me, that whenever a believer speaks of their faith, there is zero tolerance for that person's expression on this board.
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
But so far, all I see is people discussing an issue they really don't know about, but for whatever reason, they loathe. So let go of whatever bad examples you've encountered, and take a look at THE example: Jesus. That's who a Christian is supposed to be like and if they aren't, then tell them they aren't! Not everyone can see their own weaknesses, you know.
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
I found healing through developing a relationship with the Creator. I used to loathe myself, but now I have self-esteem which developed when I found out how God looks at me and feels about me. He doesn't think I'm a druggie or a loser or a sinner or whatever label you think.
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
I don't feel compelled to save your soul, however, when I see you questioning, I have to respond. I don't see anyone on the board forcing their religion on you, but sometimes it feels like you are forcing your anti-religion on US. So we speak up.
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
I see you struggling for answers, so I respond.
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
And last, yes, you can interpret the Bible in your own way. But you can't misinterpret the basics: hell exists, God exists, prophecy has been fulfilled, and these ARE the last days.
On 2003-04-24 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
And you are incorrect when you say no single religion has a right to say that is the only way. Jesus Christ claimed that right when He died and rose again. Don't believe the Bible? Then read what the Romans had to say in Josephus's book (in the public library) about Jesus.
On 2003-04-24 12:58:00, Carmel wrote:That's funny, I didn't hear your name mentioned.
"You know, I am no atheist and resent being grouped as such."
Many people feel just as strongly and deeply about their own belief just as you do, and to make a statement that you feel sad or sorry for someone who is "lost" can be interpreted as an insult.Oh, now it can, sense you say so. Have you been here? Or is there more than one Carmel?
I think its when we cross the line from speaking of ourselves, to encompass others and demand their acknowledgement of our own perceptions, that we become offensive. We should be able to convey our story, and be just as accepting of a negative response as we are of a positive one.
" I strive for mutual respect, nothing more. "
"While at the same time I have no respect for the atheist that believes that way in order to try and cheat their own consciousness. A desperate and futile attempt to hide from the truth in themselves."
On 2003-04-24 15:37:00, Tampa survivor wrote:
ps I have gotten private messages which I cannot open...
do I need to turn on everything or just java or Ax or what? SYSGod?
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I also cannot believe this particular thread has gotten 77 hits. Blindly following along a particular topic is the same way DISCO got a foothold in this sick and twisted land we call America, now that's something to think about."
He that will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not, is a slave.
--William Drummond (1585-1640)
If quitting drugs means joining the war on terrorism, does this portend the fire bombing of Amsterdamn ?
Felton Manifestation
On 2003-04-25 06:52:00, Carmel wrote:
"Anyway, I dont want to give you reason to think that I have a problem with you, I just reacted to the idea of wanting to "egg things on". As you can see, I have some rabid individual tailing me around this board and at the very least sign of defensiveness I get a blizzard of personal insult hurled at me.'
On 2003-04-25 12:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Taken out of context those may sound bad, but that is how you actually act. You miss the point completely. "
for nothing can keep it right but their own vigilant and distrustful superintendence.
--Thomas Jefferson
On 2003-04-25 13:06:00, Carmel wrote:
"Please explain to me how bitch and psycho can be taken out of context to "actually sound bad"...I am intrigued. You know, forget it, you think I am Satan. Fine, that?s great. We are never going to agree on this.
I am intrigued. You know, forget it, you think I am Satan. Fine,
Woooow Carmel.
I've been away a little time so I took a look.
Holy Fucking Shit people, CHILL. All of you go take a trip.
LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE.
Take care of the wounded.
STOP THE CAOUS.
Brothers & Sisters?
Yes we are.
CHILL::bigsmilebounce::
"Please explain to me how bitch and psycho can be taken out of context"
Understand that legal and illegal are political, and often arbitrary,
categorizations; use and abuse are medical, or clinical, distinctions.
--Abbie Hoffman
On 2003-04-28 03:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Many days ago metalgod8 asked some questions. Here are the answers."
On 2003-05-31 09:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You are SO rude. Whether these are your beliefs or not. You can't even argue religion in an intelligent manner? It's such a crime/joke to have idiots like you preaching scripture. It's people like YOU that turn others off to religion or God. Learn how to teach, not condom. You're going by the Bible? What religion? You are just as brainwashed as a Straightling. The only difference is that now, you live your life in fear of God instead of Straight. You are not capable of thinking for yourself? Everything that you preach of your God can be applied to life without needing to fear eternal damnation. Learn to teach. Otherwise, you just sound like someone spouting off a bunch of hot air. Oh yeah, and you think that "non-believers" are SUPPOSED to say that right? Just like every difference of opinion in Straight was considered a "Druggie" one right?
Get a life. Not an afterlife, try for a REAL one first.
On 2003-06-01 10:10:00, mithygato wrote:
"Powerful Attitude I pity you.
You are a self-proclaimed prophet, Huh?
Good luck with that bud.
I don't know what Spiritual Fornication is, but I do know that you're a certified nutcase.
Go someplace else - this place is for people who suffered emotional and physical torment thanks to people like you I'm sure.
NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE!
Go spew your frightening dogma someplace else. :wstupid: :wstupid: :wstupid: "
Age is mind over matter. If you don't mind...it doesn't matter!
-- Chuck Gauran
On 2003-07-02 11:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I still think you're schizophrenic PA, I really do. This was never said before to be a jab, I was serious. I know, I put it in the wrong thread, but I meant it. My husband is a psychiatrist. I should know after 12 years how to spot this mental disorder. Please look into getting some help. You sound very unhappy. :scared:
I'M CURED; GOSH WITHOUT THIS I WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN THE LIGHT. I'M SO GLAD YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR TWELVE YR'S I JUST KNEW YOU WERE RIGHT. IM SO THANKFUL, YA'LL REALLY HURT, PLEASE STOP, I JUST CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE, NO, PLEASE, THE TRUTH IS UNBEARABLE, DON'T EXPOSE ME, I'M SCARED.
LOVE YA!
I SEE THE CULT STILL LIVES ON, ALL IN YOUR MINDS, ALL IN YOUR HOMES, ALL WITHIN YOUR FINGERTIPS, ALL DOCTORS, ALL ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY, STICKING TOGETHER TO CONSOLE THOSE COMING IN OFF THE STREETS, WE WERE ONCE LIKE THAT, WE KNOW, WE CAN SHOW YOU, THE STRAIGHT WAY, IT'S A WAY OF LIFE.
JUST A THOUGHT, YA'LL HAVE FUN BUT PLEASE LEAVE ME BE. I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, "STRAIGHT LIVES ON".
LOVE YA........PA
That which does not kill you can make you stronger, but I really never needed to be this strong.
Scott Wagner
On 2003-07-29 07:48:00, Froderik13 wrote:
"She'd probably sentence him (Tom Delay) to be pilloried for 30 days in the Castro district of San Francisco... ::boohoo:: )
For something that has spread with all the forethought of kudzu, the Internet isn't half bad."
-- Newsweek, 2/27/95
The police in new york city,
Chased a boy, right through the park.
In a case of mistaken identities,
They put a bullet through his heart.
On 2004-01-05 15:20:00, exsafecounselor wrote:
" Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.
--- Anon "
On 2004-01-06 07:50:00, Froderik13 wrote:
"Yeah, I know..I'm not entirely innocent of that kind of thing, but I'm trying to turn over a new leaf.. ::cheers::
Laws are like spider webs. If some poor weak creature comes up against them - it is caught. But the bigger one can break through and get away.
-- Solon; Greek philosopher - c.630-c.555 BC