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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight was a cake walk in comparison.....
« on: March 05, 2002, 09:27:00 AM »
Kathy,
You are obviously very ignorant on the Straight story! Until you have walked in my shoes, or even know my story, don't try to tell others what straight was about. You have no grounds to even judge the abuse straight has caused, cause even the internet can only tell a small part of the story. If you want to know about it, I'll talk.
[email protected]
Please understand the sensitivity of this to me, I'm not bashing yer post, I come in peace.

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Elan School / Blame Game
« on: March 03, 2002, 11:35:00 AM »
Hey Adam love your open views I too feel the same Its about the relationships that were made they are what matters at this point. Being a resident from the 70s Iam sure my elan was different from your's I have herd many adverse stories about (Ann Flynn) guess I'm luck to never had the pleasure of meeting her. Thanks for the objective toughts nice to know that there are others out there that are able to put things into prespective.

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Elan School / Elan School
« on: March 02, 2002, 01:11:00 AM »
I knwo everyone will FREAK OUT, but.... it's seems like the chicken and the egg here.....

I attended Elan too... and graduated.

I can't say I LOVED IT! I couldn't wait to get the @#$# outta there.... BUT

EVEN FOR THE WORST THINGS thatI went thru there... they made me stronger... even if what was done was WRONg... I can handle things that some other people just can't.  ANd I have some tools that others do not.

I came home from ELAN and jumped into my old habits DOUBLE TIMES OVER... I almost died again... I went thru 2 years of hell... AND cultrure shock... it was hard to go home after ELAN... to feel NORMAL... to feel like the same as everyone... I felt DIFFERENT than everyone all of a sudden.. and out of the loop too.. and it was STRESSFUL.... so I got into trouble and did really stupid crap....

I am now an adult... married to a good man... and I have a child. I run my own small business  and have a drink or 2 a couple of times a year- IF THAT!

I finally found something.... deep inside that I had all along.  MY BEST FRIEND. It was me all along!

I first met her.... in ELAN... when I felt Isolated & new... and she kept me going thru that strange and different ordeal.  When I left Elan I lost her for a while... but she is with me now & I don't intend to lose her again....

CHICKEN AND THE EGG: I was Fxxxxd up before I got to ELAN, Elan didnt make me a drup addict or a bitch and a hard ass... I was like that BEFORE.... I cant blame the addictions and the bad decisions on ELAN... If they sent me to Elan for leaving the cap off the toothpaste and I came home from ELAN and was a drup addict and a murderer--- then I could see that....

BUt to Blame ELAN for mental illness and drug addictions... yo umust have been a mistake to send there in the first place... nothing was wrong with you until you left there...

When we take responsibility for ourselves and recognize our own weaknesses and try to make life a little better... AND NOT BLAME EVERYONE ELSE!!!!  THen we can grow up and become adults.

:smile:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Conference
« on: February 28, 2002, 03:26:00 PM »
Hi, I was just wondering who all was planning on going to the conference, I live in Alberta Canada and I was thinking of coming out for it, but wanted to know if there would be some of you there; it would be nice to actually meet people that have gone through similar situations.

This is Cheeky54 by the way, I seem to have forgotten my password.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Looking for Information....
« on: February 21, 2002, 04:20:00 AM »
P.S.

My email address is: r_ducky25@hotmail

I am very willing to share any and all information about Rosemont, but only to a person serious about helping these girls.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / A Bill Relating to Outdoor Youth Programs
« on: February 21, 2002, 04:16:00 AM »
Private schools like this are rare in Oregon. The majority of "treatment" schools are subsidized largely by the State of Oregon and operated by "nonprofits." Many of these nonprofits were originally part of the Catholic Church or other religions. This legislation does nothing for children placed in these "treatment" facilities. State law offers children placed in any state "contracted" facility much more protection, but it is nothing more than words. Facilities are never "audited" without notice and any complaints are dismissed and/or covered up in any way possible.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Looking for Information....
« on: February 21, 2002, 04:09:00 AM »
I have letters from a number of girls who were abused at Rosemont school. The State of Oregon subsidizes all placements at Rosemont and has done so for decades. They have done everything possible, much of it illegal, to keep these abuses covered-up.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Jewish Child Care Association -- Mt. Pleasant, NY
« on: February 12, 2002, 01:03:00 PM »
this is tommyfromhyde
This thread reminded me that in '75-'76
school year a couple of kids tried to burn
down the Hyde School main building (called
the mansion). Matt, your friend must have
been there. This happened the year before I
was there and I heard the story during the
following Summer School. I think two kids
were prosecuted for arson.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!
« on: February 11, 2002, 07:34:00 PM »
Hi,

this is thea that for some insane reason keeps not only posting but reading the crazy stuff on the alumni board.  I am reformed and jumping ship.  please saaaave me!!!!!!!!!

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Elan School / Elan (corporation/school)
« on: February 11, 2002, 06:42:00 PM »
while i agree with you on many points heres one you have forgotten werent we all in the same boat RESIDENTS at one time! so who blames who here? who started it all? dose anyone know for sure? whatever the case may be we should remeber that whatever our views may be that respect should play a role after all we did all go through the same shit we just see things differently

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Has anyone heard of this program?
« on: February 10, 2002, 03:46:00 AM »
This is tommyfromhyde
The following is a link to an obit for Carol
Burnette's daughter.
http://people.aol.com/people/magazine/c ... 34,00.html
On page 3 there is a reference to a program
called Palmer Drug Abuse Program (I remember
an acronym "PDAP"). I seem to remember a
60 Minutes about them but it's been years...
Peace,
Tommy

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / VA and GA peoples
« on: February 08, 2002, 03:41:00 PM »
Dude, how is it you can track me down and now i can't find you? Sent you an message via e-mail, was returned posting wrong address. write me so i can get the correct address.-AS-savannah

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight was a cake walk in comparison.....
« on: February 06, 2002, 11:07:00 PM »
WWASP/Teen Help programs are owned by the Kay/Lichfield/Facer families. I'm unsure if Steve Cartisano has or had any connection with them. I understood his to be a separate operation from theirs. He is also banned from operating programs in the United States, so what he does have are all based out of the country now. Even so, he still uses a number of alias' to hide his connection to most of them.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Obsidian Trails Wilderness program
« on: February 06, 2002, 10:54:00 PM »
Eddie Lee was murdered, according to the coroner who listed his cause of death as "homicide." This is exactly what it says on his death certificate.

Yet, not one person has been criminally charged in this matter. What is it going to take to make those who abuse children in the name of treatment, accountable for their behavior?

I read an article in the newspaper recently about a prostitute who was convicted of killing a client by sitting on him. Yes, I said, "sitting on him." He was refusing to pay for services rendered, so she wrestled him to the ground and sat on him. I seem to remember that she weighed about 30 lbs more than him.

There was a significantly more weight difference between Eddie Lee and the male counselor who restrained him. More than a hundred pounds from what I understand.

Where is the justice here?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Obsidian Trails Wilderness program
« on: February 06, 2002, 07:55:00 PM »
I cannot imagine the pain that Mrs Lee must have for losing her son and my heart goes out to her. (i have a son of my own)

From what I remember of the story that was printed in the Registar Guard,Eddie was restrained by having people sit on him ,I thought this was most absurd.

I am very grateful that this place has been charged ,and temporarily shutdown . One can only wish that this will be a permanent shutdown and will make Oregon an even more beautiful state.

Matt

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