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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Torture of Iraqi citizens/soldiers
« on: April 30, 2004, 07:10:00 PM »
I'm more amazed that the nation is going to have a huge debate and media frenzy over that, and not about how its own children are being treated.

Maybe if someone got some pinhole cameras and posed as staff the media would take up this cause? Who knows.

I think its just a matter of people want something to bitch about politically, not actually help someone else.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Restraints
« on: April 30, 2004, 07:07:00 PM »
The more regulation, laws, and oversight there is, the less of these places there are. Interesting, isn't it?

And yeah, restraints are just another way to fuck with your mind. I made a post about them in another thread.

Well, that or another way for those bastards to get their jollies.

Open Free for All / stupid stepdad. help
« on: April 29, 2004, 01:52:00 AM »
I just hope to god she isn't in one of thos programs right now  :cry:

Thayer Learning Center / a scam?
« on: April 29, 2004, 01:10:00 AM »
On 2004-04-28 21:25:00, an anonymous coward wrote:

"Because the kid is a heroine/alcoholic drug addict that lied to everyone. only thing he didn't do was end up in jail or die. od'd twice. expert liar. and no abuse was administered to 'him', he wrote of abuse of other kids. cps is involved and will be visiting soon. guess he is better off here than in prison. "

If 'here' was your house and you did your job as a parent, perhaps.

I think the average person has no idea how terrifying the powerlesness and pain can be when you are "restrained"

Its RARELY just a pin. They almost always twist a jointlock (which fucking hurt) WAYY TOO far and shove their weight on their victim. They probably learned from a Juujutsu instructor or some other grappler, and they're used to fighting other people who know how to fight back with it, not panincing people. Its overkill.

I know how to fight back and I could just tap out or say "STOP" on the mat. These children and teens (and adults in mental institutions) can't. When you can't breathe, or move, and are on the ground you PANIC. I'm able to get over that becasue my training partners aren't going to hurt me and I actually have a clue. Its also always one other person, and I consented to sparring with him or her. Its not a pile of burly employees who probably get off on hurting, scaring, and dominating me.

I wish the average person knew what it was like, but they probably never will. The MENTAL impact it can have alone is horrible. Imagine if the victim is also a claustrophobe! Nevermind how bad it hurts or the potentional injury to their joints, internal organs, or suffocation.

Its just another way to terrify, FORCE them into submission and cause more anguish and suffering until they comply with the brainwashing.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Warning Signs of Abusive Teen Programs
« on: April 28, 2004, 06:43:00 PM »
Sometimes I think parents need more education than the teens do.

Teens are SUPPOSED TO REBEL. Its how you learn to make your decisions, look out for yourself, and learn to fight for your own interests.

Parents that can't deal with that have no business having kids. Robot teenagers grow up into dependant (and abused) adults. LET THEM GROW.

If you are so sorry, join the fight.

Its not over for the people still in there, or for the children kidnapped every day.

Its still not over for those who suffered in their childhood.

Your testimony could be useful to a lot of people.

The Troubled Teen Industry / How do I help?
« on: April 27, 2004, 04:41:00 PM »
For weeks I've dug into this 'industry' and found out about the crap in it.

Once I had been filled to the brim with bullshit I figured it was time to contact people and help out.

And yeah... trying to rub it into survivors faces... ticks me off. Troll another forum, sheesh.

The Troubled Teen Industry / How do I help?
« on: April 26, 2004, 11:57:00 PM »
Odd pet name. But Nihi, Nihil, and Nilly are the normal ones.

Well, I'm prepared to deal with some stupid remakers from some brainwashed people. I just felt like lashing out at an idiot. It felt good. I've been trolled by better trolls, though.

It did get to me that someone would troll this kind of forum, however. :flame:

If anyone wants to talk, you know how to contact me.

The Troubled Teen Industry / How do I help?
« on: April 26, 2004, 08:19:00 PM »
Okay you troglodite. I've had it.

You fucking miscreant. FUCK YOU.

If you want to troll a board, you could pick a little better than a fucking survivors forum for abused, raped, and tortured teenagers. THESE ARE CHILDREN! The adults were abused as children.

This isn't about money or an industry. Its about ending the suffering and justice. I doubt any of them WANT money, and all I've talked to do not. Any winnings would probably go into a foundation for REAL help, and therapy for these abused people.

And quit posting anonymously you coward. Its not like they can't just trace your IP anyway  :grin:

The Troubled Teen Industry / How do I help?
« on: April 26, 2004, 08:10:00 AM »
Kiwi... any information for me? I've spoken to a survivors on AIM all night... I haven't cried so long in my life.

I just sent emails to a few celebrities and John Kerry about this. I hope I get a reply. I hope they do something.

I can't believe this shit is going on. This is just too bad to be real.  :cry:

The Troubled Teen Industry / Desisto School
« on: April 26, 2004, 01:59:00 AM »
So, quackery... and a cult of personality.

Dr. Kellogg meets your friendly neighborhood dictator. Joy.

The Troubled Teen Industry / How do I help?
« on: April 26, 2004, 01:11:00 AM »
Did you read my whole post?

Do I have to have been there to care about whats going on? Some people are decent enough to give a shit. And I came close to going to a place like these. I was also a screwed up kid who needed help!

And even if I never had come near it, I still know whats going on, and I'm going to try to help. This is sick and disgusting, its horrific. I actually care about other human beings. I can't do nothing, knowing this is happening every day to thousands of CHILDREN while I live comfortably in my apartment, eat food fit for human consumption and have rights and priviladges.

Who are you anyway? Who is Jeff Berryman?

And no, my name is Chris. If you want to contact me I've given several ways to do so. [ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2004-04-25 22:27 ]

The Troubled Teen Industry / How do I help?
« on: April 25, 2004, 08:45:00 PM »
I've never been in these places, but that story about tranquility bay caught my eye... I couldn't stop thinking about it, imagining how bad it is, and that I can't stand it happening. I've lost lots of sleep. I want to help.

Then I started thinking about my own past. I'm only 19, so I still remember what happened in the 5th grade. See, I've had (and still do to a much lesser degree) have something called "semantic pragmatic disorder". But in the 5th grade it was so bad I did not understand people, what I said came out really weird, and I would attract abuse from my "peers", if not make people pick fights. I was misdiagnosed as Bipolar and drew attention for verbally lashing out when I became frustrated at how apathetic the teachers were.

So, I was pulled from that normal school and found out I'd be going to a "special place" for half-days. I even had a taxi pick me up! (and 2 other boys, who were either screwed up and needed help for just too violent at their regular school). The work was exceedingly easy, but I noticed how there were 4 levels you could be at. I didn't think much of it. I also noticed there was a 'timeout room' and sometimes I'd see large faculty members pinning people down and dragging them in there. I'm a claustrophobe, and that horrified me.

Then I learned the story of why the lock to that room is springloaded and someone has to stand there and hold it shut - there was fire and apparently a child locked in there died from smoke inhalation.

I didn't stay there long, I didn't realize where I was or why. But after I found out about this crap going on under everyone's noses I realized I dodged a bullet. I was terrifyingly close to ending up in one of these hellholes. I was nonviolent, I was in the AG program (smart kids) so the work was exceedingly easy and I didn't do anything to anyone, so I was pulled out.

I got the help I needed - speech therapy and socialization with other people to learn how to understand people better. Imagine how screwed up I'd be now if I was in one of those 'treatment' camps? I doubt I could speak coherantly and I'd probably be a shell of myself or psychotic.

I dodged a bullet. I'm not going to just forget what I've discovered, or forget the fact that I almost because a survivor, or worse.

My email is [email protected] , as is my MSN. AIM is Nihilanthic2. If anyone has any info, or just want someone talk to - I'm usually available.

And no, I'm not just going to give up. I'd like to help organize all of the outcry and all of the victims and advocatsy groups together so there could be a coherant campaign to the media and law enforcement.

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