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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Fear is not a Trilogy", BUT... It was..
« on: December 17, 2002, 12:37:00 PM »
I still could be wrong, but according to what I have read so far, I think that at one point in time (at least), it was meant to be and intended as a trilogy.

This is all about enlightenment and nothing about who knows more or less.  I was racking my brain ever since your post.  

The books will BLOW YOUR MIND as to the depth and direction of stuff.  It will expand your perspective on RUSH, music, philosophy & life overall.  

YOU CAN EXPAND YOUR MIND WITHOUT DRUGS!  Just read lots of books.  Pretty cool, huh!

Any Rush fan is always a friend of mine.  You can e-mail me at [email protected]

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I goofed...

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Fear is not a Trilogy", BUT... It was..
« on: December 16, 2002, 12:33:00 PM »
Sam,

For your true enlightenment into the depths of RUSH, please try & find these two books:

1.  Mystic Rhythms:The Philosophical Vision of Rush

2. A Simple Kind Mirror: The Lyrical Vision of Rush

Both highly recommended!!!

By the way, I forgot to make amends to you for that time in the bathroom when Marty K. Yelled, "Exit Stage Left" and I cliqued with you.

I was weak and acting out on the drug problem that I didn't have and I was out of control with being powerless over RUSH.  I know that I could have made you cop out and go buy the new album (It was Presto by that time).  I have not changed from it and am therefore encouraging you further to study Rush's music, lyrics and overall views & perspectives on life.

Because I never wrote my MI on it, it has just got worse & worse for me.  I now read philosophy books compulsively searching for insights and wisdoms dating out over the ages.  In fact, I actually got a Canadian Pressing of Grace Under Pressue on DVD!  (Not available in the states EVER).  It was the first time FEAR was ever played as a trilogy (Yep.  I said trilogy...).
 ::rocker::

The silly thing is that some people never will understand the beauty that words & insights can have in our lives, especially when matched with extraordinary music.  

The actual meaning of beauty is "what inspires" and it is sad that some people see life everyday and fail to see the inspirations offered in everyday beauty.  Well, don't be like the graduates...

DO NOT LIVE TRYING TO FIND WHATS BEST FOR US & RISE & SAVE US FROM OURSELVES...

Those are the people who are possessed by those three demons: IGNORANCE, PREJUDICE & FEAR.  They stalk the land in human flesh.  (KIDS supporters or any vigilante group for that matter).

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Fear" is not a trilogy
« on: December 16, 2002, 12:50:00 AM »
I stood corrected, but will affirm my last stance because FEAR was in fact put together as a trilogy.  Parts I thru III or parts III thru I were released in a strategical order to try and depict the phenomenon of "Fear" in its origin and successive manifestations.  Parts I thru III fit perfectly together to form one whole.  Part IV - Freeze does well in acting as an ongoing continuation of Fear.  In fact, if it was released on Power Windows in 1985, I would have a different opinion.  Then again, its an opinion.  

They told me in KIDS to shove my opinions up my ass.  Well, please understand that I have too many opinions to fit, therefore, I am left no choice, but to voice it....

I just hope that you still think I'm still a true RUSH head after all this. ::drummer::

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Fear is not a Trilogy", BUT... It was..
« on: December 16, 2002, 12:40:00 AM »
::drummer::  :idea:



You can get it online at http://www.bn.com  They have it in stock!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / my drug problem?!?
« on: December 10, 2002, 11:36:00 PM »
::jawdrop:: Yeah, meetings never seem to hurt my ficticious, ellusive and exaggerated drug problem.  Please, by no means do I intend to minimize the seriousness of an intense addiction.  Nor would I ever poke fun at someone who is recovering from one.  

With that in mind, I was put into that horrible place and told that I had a drug problem that I actually did not.  After 4-1/2 years of constantly being told that I really had this thing, I thought that I really did.  When I left, I drank only because I was sick of fighting the thinking of "when is it going to happen, when am I gonna go back to drugs?"  I gave in not because I felt weak over alcohol, I was tired of fighting the war in my head from the program's suggestion.  Once I did drink, I had been convinced that I could never drink normally so I ended up drinking & drinking.  Eventually I became an alcoholic & luckily got sober.  

Man, its weird to say, but if I never went to drug rehab, I may have never had a drug problem.  But, if you get put into drug rehab without a drug problem, then either the rehab made a mistake (nah, could've never happened) or else they are gonna make you believe that you have a drug problem to cover their asses.  Hmmmn.....

My problem in there and out was the sick & obsessive thinking that they created in my mind.  Anyhow, I will continue to live a good life, not drink, listen to loads of RUSH and continue to read great philosophy books for fun.  

Enjoy life, its the only one you've got!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / my drug problem?!?
« on: December 09, 2002, 11:22:00 PM »
I am Jeff's drug problem that he never really had, but was tortured into beleiving that he had, and then found out that he didn't have, but because he thought he had me, I really screwed with his mind.  Allow me to introduce myself.  I am the product of someone you all may know very well.  I am the result of Jeff's 4 1/2 year incarceration in KIDS & a direct result of the mind control used to exploit his thought process.

You see, as a problem that doesn't exist, I have to be a very convincing illusion to make my victim think that I am real.  I cannot succeed if my victim will not surrender his prior beliefs about himself and his life to me.  

Having people scream, yell and reinforce that he is a druggie and a piece of shit (no, that he acts like a piece of shit) over & over, eventually he may cave in.  If this doesn't work, we have more extreme measures to insure success, compliments of KIDS.

If one refuses to give in to this theory, then we will refuse him privileges.  We will not allow him to talk, or move or tap his feet.  In fact, he will be forced to remain still while people continue to speak about NOTHING exept this drug problem.  After a few months of not talking and a lot less eating & sleeping his resistance will be compromised.  In this weakened state, he becomes vulnerable to thought reform in its most blatant form.  

I hear that they have made ground breaking discoveries about the long-term effects of motivating in flourescent lighting.  They say that years later, people begin to feel uncontrollably rageful at their captor.  Its not because the program did anything wrong, the anger is actually because of this illness that the patient suffered while in treatment.  

Actually, it wasn't until recently that I had a realization.  You see, Jeff wasn't really mad at Mr. Newton (phd.? - public administration? doctor - nah.).  Actually, it was this sickness that he got when he signed out of treatment.  (They actually predicted this)  When he left, things got very fuzzy and scary.  I knew that he was out of the one place that he needed to be in.  His drug problem took control and started to fabricate these wild stories of being held captive in a warehouse in Hackensack for almost 5 years against my will.  Once I found out that he could get lots of attention from it, I got more graphic with my stories, they included restraints, starvation, sleep deprivation, being screamed at for hours at a time in intake rooms.  His drug problem was progressing.

It got so bad, that I started to create dreams that these people who loved and cared about him so much were coming to bring him back to the building and he resisted.  In the dreams he kicks, screams, hits, stabs and acts out towards these wonderfully loving good & caring people who only want whats best for him.  Who the heck is he to resist these people trying to save his life?  Whats so wrong with Jeff that He can't graciously accept their help?  

I was talking to Jeff's subconcious mind the other day.  Here's what he asked me:
Why do I continue to have bizarre recollections of an irrational world that didnt exist?  Were the Newtons correct?  Am I just out of my mind like they predicted?  Am I just an upset & disgruntled druggie who just wants to complain because I didn't graduate & devote my life to a higher cause?  Please help, I'm losing my mind.  Save me from my drug problem.  Please assure me that it is all a fabrication of my creating.

You see, I lost hope in this terrible place.  When the mind loses hope, it must find ways to cope.  I cannot tell anymore where I was between 1986 & 1990.  Maybee I was abducted by aliens and it just seemed like drug-rehab because if I saw the real deal, it would be too overwhelming.  Everything in KIDS was a mere illusion.  

Why can't I prove that I was somewhere for almost 5 years of my life?  Was I insane then or am I insane now?  Is my resentment just ficticious?  Am I mad at someone for something that never really happened?

In KIDS I was told that everything that I did centered around feelings.  They told me that I could guage how well I was doing with myself by how I looked.  If I had bags under my eyes, it was because I was not doing well.  It was clearly laid out that I only would get rebelious against the program because I was unhappy with myself.  That when I left, I would hate myself so much that I would misplace my self-hate & flip it into anger at the program & the Newtons.  Did this happen?

Is it true that anyone who left the program really just hates themselves for leaving and is pretending to hate KIDS to cover up their bad feelings?

If any of this sounds absolutely off the wall and crazy then you must be well.  If this sounds even the slightest bit familiar in anyway, then maybee you too may suffer from the same syndrome of your disease getting worse & worse.  My drug problem is outside right now doing push ups in the parking lot while I write this.  As soon as I disconnect, I cannot predict how far down I'll go this time.  I might even go as low as to start to accuse the Newtons of being spiteful or manipulative....No, I can't hold back.... I'm going all the way if I do it again....Screw it!!! I'll call them DISHONEST, LYING& UNTRUTHFUL!  

Help me before I really do it....I'm out of control.......

Yours truly,

The drug problem
(According to Virgil)

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello All
« on: December 09, 2002, 10:36:00 PM »
It was great to read your post.  I thought that the cold cheeseburgers and veggie lasagna actually had more of a therapeudic effect on me and solving my problems than the raps, 3 on 1's in the intake room and the 300+ restraints on the floor.  I know that they would have done anything and everything to keep me there (to save me from myself), but I ended up signing out ofter 4 1/2 years.  I just can never forgive myself for not being a graduate.  That program was just TOO HARD for me...  Or maybee I was too hard for the program and they could not defeat the intensity of my innermost will.  The drive for individuality that makes us all unique.  That is what actually saved me from drinking, not what brought me back to it.  Was the KIDS program backwards, or is the world & the disease of addiction not responding positively to torture that is backwards.  Hmmnnn.... Well, maybee someday I'll figure that out.  I still miss Pete B*rk*'s house on Wednesday nights.  If it weren't for that home, I think I would have never actually amounted to my top weight of 122 lbs in there.  

Actually, the thing that really confuses me to this day is not all the chaos that we lived in.  Rather it is the obsession that I go through when shopping and I see "Stouffer's Vegetable Lasagna."  I can't figure out why when I buy the $10.99 party tray it only lasts me a day or two.  I feel like I'm being sneaky and having my first phase fantasy, (unlimited veggie lasagna with nobody to stop me!!!).  

The worst part is when I have nothing better to do, I actually enjoy peanut butter & honey on a bagel once in a while.  The really wild part is that I make more than three rings of honey and I know I'll never get caught.  Does this mean I am different?  Can anyone relate to feeling like this?  DAMN IT! I said feel like, so I'll have a seat.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Fear" is not a trilogy
« on: December 06, 2002, 10:47:00 PM »
Please accept my public apology for this oversight.  I bought the new album and even went to the Vapor Trails show twice, but have not invested even a minute in studying any lyrical content from it.

Prior to this new revelation, it was a trilogy (so I thought).  Thanks for the insight and for the addition!

Jeff Z

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / **********Jeff Z**********
« on: December 05, 2002, 06:12:00 PM »
The sign out part I goofed on.  Actually, you may have been taken out after an open meeting and got the shit beat out you in an intake room for entertaining me with heavy metal beats and licks from some good songs.  Sorry about that.

Send me an e-mail and we'll talk.  I do a lot of work in Livingston.  It would be fun to get together.  Please don't forget to read my post if you happen to like Neil Peart as I do...

[email protected]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Part III of Fear by N. Peart - \
« on: December 05, 2002, 06:05:00 PM »
Part III of the Fear Triliogy, "Witch Hunt"

The night is black
Without a moon

The air is thick, and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill

Features distorted in the flickering light
The faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in concience, calm in their right -
Confident their ways are best

The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will

They say there are strangers , who threaten us
In our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness, too dangerous
In our theatres and bookstore shelves
Those who know what's best for us -
Must rise and save us, from ourselves

Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand

Ignorance and prejudice
And fear
Walk hand in hand



This completes the trilogy written in the early 1980's and released by Rush on 3 different albums.  Part III - Witch Hunt came out first on the Moving Pictures album, Part II - The Weapon was second on their Signals album.  Part I - The Enemy Within was released last on their Grace Under Pressure album.

I can spend days and days writing diffent analogies and theories of how well each of these relates directly to my imprisonment, captivity, release and recovery from KIDS.  Rather than bore you all, I just wanted to share it with you.  In fact most lyrics from RUSH songs have had major influences on my life and the way I chose to live.

Best Regards,

Jeff Z.

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In the days of my youth,I found peace, serenity and a sense of well-being when I was turned on to RUSH's music & lyrics at about 10 years old. When I was put in the program in 1986, I experienced some of the subject matter, concepts and ideas that they sung about first hand.  

After leaving KIDS and studying their work for about 12 years, I wanted to post this trilogy that has a lot of deep rooted meaning to my life after KIDS.

Part One of Fear, "The Enemy Within"  

Things crawl in the darkness
That imagination spins
Needles at your nerve ends
Crawl like spiders on your skin

Pounding in your temples
And a surge of adrenalin
Every muscle tense -
To Fence
The enemy within...

I'm not giving in
To security under pressure
I'm not missing out on the promise of adventure
I'm not giving up
On impossible dreams -
Experience to extremes -
Experience to extremes -

Suspicious-looking stranger
Flashes you a dangerous grin
Shadows across your window -
Was it only trees in the wind?

Every breath a static charge-
A tongue that tastes like tin
Steely-eyed outside-
To hide
The enemy within...

To you... is it movement or is it action?
Is it contact or just reaction?
And you - revolution or just resistance?
Is it living, or just existence?
Yeah, you - it takes a little more persistence
To get up and go the distance...

Part II of Fear, "The Weapon"

We've got nothing to fear - but fear itself?
Not pain of failure, not fatal tragedy?
Not the faulty units in this mad machinery?
Not the broken contacts in emotional chemistry?

With an iron fist in a velvet glove
We are sheltered under the gun
In the glory game on the power train
Thy kingdom's will be done

And the things that we fear
Are a weapon to be held against us...

He's not afraid of your judgement
He knows of horrors worse than your Hell
He's a little bit afraid of dying -
But he's a lot more afraid of your lying

And the things that he fears
Are a weapon to be held against him...

Can any part of life - be larger than life?
Even love must be limited by time
And those who push us down that they might climb -
Is any killer worth more than his crime?

Like a steely blade in a silken sheath
We don't see they're made of
They shout about love, but when push comes to shove
They live for things they're afraid of

And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them...

Part III of Fear - To be continued...

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / **********Jeff Z**********
« on: December 05, 2002, 04:58:00 PM »
:smile: Dave,
 I know that you said in your e-mail that you didn't remeber me.  To unwrap the enigma in your mind, I was a kid from RiverVale who went to school with Tom P*tt*r at Barnstable.  I went in in 2/86 and was 15, skinny and always got the crap kicked out of me for being rebellious.  I spent a whole lot of time on the floor, but then again, who didn't.

I was in trouble with the FBI for computer hacking (actually a laundry list of allegations) and at the time I was known as a computer geek.

As for you, you came from Livingston, your dad was a doctor, you were 18? if I remeber right.  You were rebellious several (ok,many) times and used to make me crack up in my blue seat.  Unless I am mistaken, you were a drummer with a very similar taste in music to mine (it was fun to sit next to you and rock out - oops.. I feel guilty for being weak).  You tried to sign out several times, once on an open meeting night.

Maybee I am wrong, but let me know if I am even close...

Jeff

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Fartoogone:

You are right, I have spent more than enough time on this.  Anyhow to preserve people's reputations, no it was not brett or brian.  Nor was it any behavior problem person.

We all went through too much BS to have to deal with this stupidity.  By the way, the wife and kid are good, the career has exploded and life seems to get better everyday somehow.  The more distance and time I put between myself and the program (8 steps, 4 signs & five criteria).  I have kept the Serenity Prayer and I use the 12 - they seem to work better.

Best Regards.  Thanks for the support!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / **********Jeff Z**********
« on: October 15, 2002, 09:04:00 PM »
If you want to e-mail me, feel free at [email protected]

Best Regards

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