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Facility Question and Answers / Moonridge Academy
« on: June 04, 2010, 02:00:27 PM »
Any abusive incidents at Moonridge Academy?

Psych Hospitals / Re: Four Winds Hospital in Katonah NY
« on: June 03, 2010, 08:31:56 PM »
The person who witnessed it admitted himself voluntarily and came out alive a few days later.

Psych Hospitals / Four Winds Hospital in Katonah NY
« on: June 03, 2010, 06:21:05 PM »
Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.

Facility Question and Answers / Re: Open Sky Wilderness in Colorado
« on: June 03, 2010, 01:26:00 PM »
I am carefully weighing everything I am hearing and reading. My question is, why indeed have certain facilities closed down? for example, Mount Bachelor Academy.

it's sad, dad is encouraging her staying away from me; he doesn't want to lose her 'affection' as he ain't got it from anyone else.
Her suiciide ideation/attempts have long been relinquished. She had made lots of gains in the wilderness program, but not ready to live with me or dad, as she still needs some time away with professional place to help sort it all out.
I have requested a forensic evaluation from the courts; so if it turns out that dad is alienating her (read up on parental alienation syndrome) the courts will recommend the appropriate steps to be taken, such as mandating dad into therapy, or forbidding dad from having contact with kid for a while, so that she feels free to reconnet with me.
thank you all for all info! i like to hear diviersified opinions.

her depression led to a suicide attempt. and she stopped eating and drinking for days. Clearly she is in acute pain but she does not have the communication skills, instead she acts out, in depressive catatonic situations. and in suicide attempts. she would not sit in the same room as me, so family therapy is out for now. she will protect dad at all costs.

I came onto this site because I am aware of the cruelty that many children have sadly and unfortunately experienced at certain facilities. It is a crime of immeasurable proportions! And the criminals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! I am here to find out which places to stay far away from. I am not easily pursuaded into anything, i take my time researching and researching and speaking with graduates of these programs.

My kid's situation is quite different, it's not that I am sending her anywhere; she has conflict of loyalty betweeen her dad and myself. complicated situation. Dad hospitalized her cuz she was so deperessed living with him (this is what she stated to docs), and she doesnt want to come home to me cuz then she will 'lose' dad's 'love'. complicated indeed.

Dad hospitalized her and she wanted to remain in the hospital; she wanted to live there. This kid does no drugs, no crime, no addictions, but an innocent child victim.

The hospital referred her to the wilderness place so she can work through this loyalty issue. she also feels she's at fault, that because of her 'misbehavior' dad and mom split up. Of course it's not true, but she's living with this nightmarish guilt and conflict of loyalty and has been abused physically and psychologically. dear her.

She's had multiple traumas and I certainly don't want her to be in a 'tough love' program. she needs a lot of nurturance and empathy, not tough love.

Thanks all for your input; i will sort things out and tease things apart and hope for a successful outcome.


Any info on any of these places?

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Are there good ones?
« on: June 02, 2010, 01:35:28 PM »
Thanks for the links; I will take a look at them.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Are there good ones?
« on: June 02, 2010, 11:46:11 AM »
Are there any links to lawsuits that have been successfully settled/won against facilities that have caused harm to the children ?

The Troubled Teen Industry / Are there good ones?
« on: June 02, 2010, 11:26:00 AM »
Reading through many posts and threads here I am horrified at the abuse that occurs at certain facilities! My heart goes out to all those who have had to endure such cruelty. I do hope you have successfully prosecuted your abusers.
Are there any links to lawsuits filed/settled/won?

Is there a list of 'good' facilities?

age between 12-16; I don't want to be specific on a public forum.
Outpatient has been attempted and things deteriorated. We are looking to transition from wilderness to residential. She has done nice healing in wilderness but it's only the tip of the iceberg. I want a good residential place that can continue the work and hoping that within a year or less she can be functional enough to return to her family.

EdCons and referring organizations and agencies / ed attorney
« on: June 02, 2010, 11:09:41 AM »
I'm not sure this belongs in this forum; here's my question:
I'm looking at educational attorneys to help me get reimbursement for residential care for a teen.
I have been provided with three names here in NY. Do you recognize any of them and do you know if they deliver the goods? The local district will make their recommendations as to residential placements and I'd like to reject their placements and choose my own and ask them to re-imburse me for that.
Some attorneys claim they can accomplish this feat. But what has been people's experiences here?

I've been referred to two ed consults:
1. Educational Resources, BArbara Posner and Myrna (forgot her last name) in Katonah NY
2. Imy Wax

Anyone know if they deliver the goods they promise?

Is it a waste of money?

Thing is, the Dept of Education is offering me Harmony Heights, lake grove, West Park, Saint Ann Institute,
It seems this is their list: ... 53inhl.htm
I have a hunch these places won't be as therapeutic as I'd like.
Therefore I'm looking into other placements, such as the ones I've heard of so far: New Haven, La Europa. I'm talking about a child with complex trauma and no criminal record, but severely psychologically damaged, and needs caring and supportive folks to help her heal.
I'd need to reject the Dept. of Ed's options, provide them with reasons why I am rejecting them, then ask them to pay for a placement of my choice. got it?

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