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Open Free for All / Re: My final note on this fictious character called Wayne???
« on: October 22, 2011, 10:56:11 PM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
I am done arguing with you. As I find things that contradict what you have said either directly or indirectly I will post them. But all this back and forth accomplishes nothing. Whatever I post if
it doesn't jive with what you wrote then you go nuts. You are so insecure with your convictions concerning the book and yourself that you go berserk and over react.
I am tired of being attacked and ridiculed because I want to defend myself. You ramp up the perverse accusations and flood every thread that I start with nonsense.

People will read my rebuttal in full here shortly and they can form their own opinions. I think I have convinced enough people to at least stop and think about your motives and lack of integrity.
 
Who ever you are, I have not lied about anything all I have tried to do is tell folks what I was doing from 2/78 till early 6/78 at Elan 7. I have a very good memory of what I was doing in 1978,
I had already been at Elan for 3 years at that point. You had just arrived in 1978 and you are trying to tell me what I was doing.
 
I believe many of us here have punched enough holes in your stories to allow people to see you are not as credible as you come across.

I don't really have anything more to say. In the future a few of my friends will be posting the information we feel is important.They will not feel compelled to argue since they have no dog in the fight.
I am bowing out again and headed in another direction for a while, dental work then vacation and then on to start another project.

I am sure most here will not miss the stupid bickering that went on here.

Take care everyone and thanks to the folks who took the time to look very close at the imperfections we all have and expose them fairly.
None Ya, you showed me some character I would like to adopt myself. Thanks!!!
Not because of what you said to Wayne but because you were fair to all parties involved. I really believe most people missed that.
Paul as always you are a man of integrity and I do admire that.
Thanks humorme for your insights and the little things you uncovered.
Thanks to everyone else who gave me a chance to set the record straight.

Danny


P.S.
Thought I would plug this Dentist clinic.
I am headed to Costa Rica, San Jose to get a implant (much cheaper there $750.00 with crown) and then on to the pacific coast of Costa Rica to the coastal town of Jaco about 2 hrs drive west for a much needed vacation.
http://www.aestheticdentistrycr.com/new ... llery.html  
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Marco ... 791?ref=ts
Ask for Dr. Marco A. Muñoz Peralta (Tica) he is the son. If you want you can mention my name. (lol...I don't get a discount if you do)

This is where I stay when I am in San Jose. http://www.rosadelpaseo.com/index.html right on a main st. called Paseo Colon. Walking distance from the dentist office. This Hotel/boutique used to be the Mayors estate
back during the 20's. You have to see it to enjoy its ambiance. Since you are close to the equator the weather in the upper elevations is a constant temp of lower 80's.

San Jose is a bit filthy for my liking so I never stay long. Downtown San Jose is like one large flea market, they do have some great native products to buy, the species of wood called Rosewood is beautiful. I bought a
a jewelry box made from this wood as a present for someone, it is absolutely beautiful. The have a Museum and a Classical Theater combined downtown which is absolutely beautiful. The surrounding suburbs of the city
are OK. If you are interested in Dining the one thing that must be understood is Costa Rica doesn't really have their own staple of foods they have borrowed foods from surrounding countries. One I like most is Peruvian
and Argentinian comes in a close second.

 Bye.....


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Elan School / Re: Wayne worked at Elan as Staff???
« on: October 22, 2011, 10:04:37 PM »
Quote from: "Horatio"
Your book is not a source of competent information. I wish you would not act so surprised at being called out to answer a question. You had this conversation with Albert Beauchane this is known. I was just wondering if you could explain the contradiction. You say here that you got to Elan in Feb. 1978 but in the conversation with Albert Beauchane you said you came to Elan in April. The reason you had this brief conversation was to show the members of the facebook site that you and Albert could not of known one another.
Albert says he left Elan in Feb and you are saying now that you got there in Feb. Yet both of you don't know one another.
OK that could happen.
But what is not excusable is your attempt to manipulate dates of your arrival so you can cover your lies.

Albert Beauchane did not leave Elan in Feb. 1978. We are not absolutely sure when he left but he was still there in June 1978 when Danny left Elan 7.

Why do I know this because I also went through Elan and was Danny's roommate when we lived in downtown Portland, Eastern Promenade by Fort Sumper Park .  
If anyone was around back then in 1978 and remembers Heather Mc K. she was a Director for Elan 3 along with Jeff Gottlieb I was her boyfriend at the time, I worked in Old Orchard Beach as a night manager at the Club The White Room. I was originally from  Worcester Mass. I live now in Lafayette, La. been here since Danny and I left Maine together in 8/78 and went to work on the oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, Morgan City La. I started as a boats mate now a Capt. of my own Tug Boat/Supply Ship. Danny stayed with the oil rigs working as a roustabout until he went into the Marine Corps.
Wayne what your ignorant butt doesn't know is that Yvette Portella came down to Louisiana, Danny flew her down. We had a wonderful time she was a special woman, absolutely beautiful. She left after a couple of weeks and then Danny flew up there to try and convince her to come back down and that is when her father and brothers stepped in and put a stop to everything. They were very mean people, IMO.
I will not call you names Wayne but what you are doing concerning Danny and Yvette is wrong, they never did anything with each other while at Elan. None of us ever had sex with anyone, I never understood how anyone could with expeditors and night watchmen running around every 15 mins. What can you accomplish in 15 mins and can you call it sex.  :D
I know for a fact Danny is not gay, bi-sexual, sexual predator and never has abused women ect...why you are claiming he attacked you at Elan is absurd. Have you no respect for yourself.
Margaret Devlin, Barry Strickland, Scott Kremer, Richard Isacc, Steve Hutch, John Wright, John Hardy (we thought he was dead but he is not) and Susan Goodman will be coming around to post. They all know Danny very well, most went to Elan and the others went to Marathon House. Some also were at other institutions with Albert Beuachane and Danny.
Wayno I hope your memory is not faltering because two of those names above are people who were in Elan 7 from late 1976 to late 1978. Three of these people (which includes the two I already referred to) will prove without a doubt Albert Beauchane was still there as of 6/78.
They played on the football team that Peter McCann coached 1976, Joe Ricci took over as coach for Elan 4 and Elan 7 and combined them into one team for 1977.
No one remembers you but hey I will say this for your defense. Danny was talking with Ken Russel last night and Ken told him that Jeffery Gottlieb and Clair Woodman remember you. One problem with that scenario you had already left before Clair showed up at Elan. Even Kenny boy was willing to lie for you. Ken is a bit twisted because he thinks Elan back in the 70's was great place to send your child.


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Elan School / Re: Wayne worked at Elan as Staff???
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:43:34 PM »
So we are all Danny. I'm sure that helps with your conscious.
Sorry not Danny.
Don't worry Wayne I am done here for a while, I am not going to argue with you.
I will say this your perverse behavior brought back memories I would rather forget.
Elan really did damage people more then the world will ever know.
I have yet to find a suitable explanation for people I know that have never experienced
a place like Elan.
I guess I could introduce them to you and Danny, here on this site. They way you two
try to destroy one another is reminiscent of the verbal battles Elan applauded.
I think I will. People need to see how you two are behaving at this point in your lives
to appreciate the residual effects of Elan. Or maybe it is selfishness, just pure immaturity.
No I am not afraid to call Danny or anyone else I know on their stuff. What you two
are doing to one another is morbid.  
Both of you need to stop it.
Good luck with yourself, Wayne.

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Elan School / Re: Wayne worked at Elan as Staff???
« on: October 20, 2011, 07:00:12 PM »
Your book is not a source of competent information. I wish you would not act so surprised at being called out to answer a question. You had this conversation with Albert Beauchane this is known. I was just wondering if you could explain the contradiction. You say here that you got to Elan in Feb. 1978 but in the conversation with Albert Beauchane you said you came to Elan in April. The reason you had this brief conversation was to show the members of the facebook site that you and Albert could not of known one another.
Albert says he left Elan in Feb and you are saying now that you got there in Feb. Yet both of you don't know one another.
OK that could happen.
But what is not excusable is your attempt to manipulate dates of your arrival so you can cover your lies.

Albert Beauchane did not leave Elan in Feb. 1978. We are not absolutely sure when he left but he was still there in June 1978 when Danny left Elan 7.

Why do I know this because I also went through Elan and was Danny's roommate when we lived in downtown Portland, Eastern Promenade by Fort Sumper Park .  
If anyone was around back then in 1978 and remembers Heather Mc K. she was a Director for Elan 3 along with Jeff Gottlieb I was her boyfriend at the time, I worked in Old Orchard Beach as a night manager at the Club The White Room. I was originally from  Worcester Mass. I live now in Lafayette, La. been here since Danny and I left Maine together in 8/78 and went to work on the oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, Morgan City La. I started as a boats mate now a Capt. of my own Tug Boat/Supply Ship. Danny stayed with the oil rigs working as a roustabout until he went into the Marine Corps.
Wayne what your ignorant butt doesn't know is that Yvette Portella came down to Louisiana, Danny flew her down. We had a wonderful time she was a special woman, absolutely beautiful. She left after a couple of weeks and then Danny flew up there to try and convince her to come back down and that is when her father and brothers stepped in and put a stop to everything. They were very mean people, IMO.
I will not call you names Wayne but what you are doing concerning Danny and Yvette is wrong, they never did anything with each other while at Elan. None of us ever had sex with anyone, I never understood how anyone could with expeditors and night watchmen running around every 15 mins. What can you accomplish in 15 mins and can you call it sex.  :D
I know for a fact Danny is not gay, bi-sexual, sexual predator and never has abused women ect...why you are claiming he attacked you at Elan is absurd. Have you no respect for yourself.
Margaret Devlin, Barry Strickland, Scott Kremer, Richard Isacc, Steve Hutch, John Wright, John Hardy (we thought he was dead but he is not) and Susan Goodman will be coming around to post. They all know Danny very well, most went to Elan and the others went to Marathon House. Some also were at other institutions with Albert Beuachane and Danny.
Wayno I hope your memory is not faltering because two of those names above are people who were in Elan 7 from late 1976 to late 1978. Three of these people (which includes the two I already referred to) will prove without a doubt Albert Beauchane was still there as of 6/78.
They played on the football team that Peter McCann coached 1976, Joe Ricci took over as coach for Elan 4 and Elan 7 and combined them into one team for 1977.
No one remembers you but hey I will say this for your defense. Danny was talking with Ken Russel last night and Ken told him that Jeffery Gottlieb and Clair Woodman remember you. One problem with that scenario you had already left before Clair showed up at Elan. Even Kenny boy was willing to lie for you. Ken is a bit twisted because he thinks Elan back in the 70's was great place to send your child.

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Elan School / Re: Wayne worked at Elan as Staff???
« on: October 20, 2011, 04:46:34 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
I got there in February, you left 8 months later. Then Joe Rodriguez had the house and then Diane Hozman. I became full coordinator under Jeff, more than a year after I got there stupid. Where do you get 2 months from?

All of your arguments are ridiculous. If there was more than your word for it I'd debate with you, but you're a fucking liar. Busted here on fornits dozens of times.

I'm waiting for proof of any of your bullshit claims. Sorry "Danny says so" is proof of lies, not truth

Kill yourself

OK, things get really interesting here. On a facebook site there is a short conversation between Albert Beauchane and yourself where you ask Albert B. when he left Elan he states Feb 1978 and then you state you got there in April 1978. You also go on to state that both of you could have ever met in this case. This is not being quoted verbatim but it is very close.
Are you going to deny this conversation never happened and you never said such things?
 Now if you think this is a lie ask Mr. Beauchane to come on here and refute this exchange you both had.

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Elan School / Re: Some Clarification Please?
« on: October 19, 2011, 07:55:48 PM »
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Re: Wayne K and Jani Foundation?

Postby janisfriend » Yesterday, 18:00

    YV23 wrote:Apparently you read too much into the blog. If it was abuse the authorities would have done something about it. Who are you, and why should I take the word of someone who won't tell us their name?

    I think you're full of shit



It's not rocket science. Jani was shaken as a two month old infant. She was not taken to the hospital following the incident. For the next 4 -5 years she was hit by her parents, they starved her, she witnessed violence between them and then they had the boy. Susan is a bipolar and she was having post pardum depression when they put Jani in the psych ward for the first time. Sometime around this time they had an MRI done that showed ischemia to her thalamus that was likely an old injury from being shaken as an infant. But of course the Dr.'s having no knowledge of the shaking assumed it was a birth injury. Meanwhile in the psych ward Jani is being put on all kids of drugs none of which are stopping her so called "imaginary world/ slash halucinations".

Meanwhile Michael and Susan are securing TV spots with Oprah, 20/20, Discovery Health, LA times and they even tried Dr. Phil. Ask yourself... what parent who has a child THAT ill (supposedly) is going to waste any time or energy looking for TV spots? Oh and then getting an agent (Steve Truitt I believe) and a book deal on top of that... Oh and of course Susan keeping up with a weekly talk radio show.

Jani was slapped with this label and drugged for many of the same reasons so many of you were dumped in Elan - for being a so called "oout of control" kid. How many of you were abused or neglected before ending up in Elan?


That's fine, don't take my word for it. look into it for yourself. >janijourney.org. And go to FB and read their pages there "jani FOundation" "Bipolar Nation Radio" as well as their personal pages where just last week Susan was going on and on about their 4 year old son being schizophrenic too while dosing him with benedryl to get him to sleep.

And as for you Wayne... I think it's YOU who is looking for some sort of celebrity. After all it was you who appeared on Bipolar Nation Talk radio just two weeks ago. When is YOUR TV appearance?

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