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Kat,
I must agree with Anon. Of course i would right? haah
I guess my question is, why not read the clip of Jessica, sit back, take a breath and say, you know what, good for her. Im happy for her.
Why bring up questions that many believe are unnecessary when being informed of her current situation....
I saw her at the reunion and remember the first graduation when I saw her, she was really really really skinny. She looked good and I am happy for her.


Kat, I want you to understand, I love all the girls that I knew from MMS still and always will. I feel a deep bong and connection with all of them. Even though I dissagree with you on many many issues of MMS. I will always care for you. Always have and always will.

Sarah,
My name is Betsy. I attended MMS from 94-96......I somewhat remember your name and possibly your face.

If you have read all the forums on this site, im sure you are aware of the one that ridicules M&D for their own sons death.
M&D don't look at this site and are very cousious about who they keep in contact with.
I am more than willing to pass this along to them and I might even do it through a third party.....
Email me or call me for more info
[email protected]
480-766-0995

On 2006-04-27 09:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-04-27 00:08:00, Anonymous wrote:


" sometimes people bitch and moan about how much MMS took away from their lives, personalities etc. and then mention they left the school in 1996. Uhhhh..... STOP LETTING THEM AFFECT YOU SO DEEPLY and let go. Instead of complaining and scaring the crap out of recent MMS graduates they should just listen and comment when they actually have something to say..."

BETSY TROLL!!!!!!!!  we should ignore her!! im ignoring you Betsy/ANON from now on you just say shit to get a rise.your just about the most annoying person i have ever met and i even tried to like you and be respectful.  youre just a nasty cruel and mean person . you were like that while at mms and you are now.  and please give up the mms survivor bs, you obviously condone bad behavior and actively participated in it when u were an intern"

Dear Anon,
I obviously don't know who you are but I will say Im sorry you feel so much hatred towards me. It makes me sad.
I loved all you girls that I went to school with and ones i had the intertnship with, if not more so, becuase I knew exactly what you were going through.
Now, the comments that were made were not me. I have said before and say again.....if i have something to say I have no problem leaving my name by it. Im not the only one who opinion differs from yours and im not the first alumni to agree with another one.
I have been really busy with life and haven't been around and when I opened this topic i wasn't suprized to see your response.
the last time i saw colleen with the reunion and from what I saw she was awesome.......


p.s. three springs wagonwhatever......please stop posting on topics that have nothing to do with you. You didn't go to MMS so go the the three springs forum and post there....!!!!!

"Everyone should be able to express their views without intimidation. "

Thats my point. When someone dissagrees or fights the idea that MMS is a bad place....you girls jump on them and me esp, because im one of the girls that is loudest.
I have said many times that those of us who like MMS can understand and even agree with those who don't. Yet those who don't agree with MMS can't even imagine agreeing or seeing another side to the issue.

 "I do not agree that this is a newer student/older student thing nor is it a good tudent/bad student thing"

Neither do I , It was metaphoric. I was comparing how I felt at the school to how I feel about this site....its very similar.

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Two individuals dancing on our own two feet, & when were together...its beautiful[ This Message was edited by: BarnardlyB on 2006-03-28 19:28 ]

"But I think to gauge personal success of academic credentials and economic achievements is wrong. Very wrong. It's such a MMS style of thinking"

maybe you should figure somethings out.
If you really think MMS gauged success on academic achievements....then you really didn't get it. I don't remember anyone going on homevisits or leaving becuase they got straight A's.  At least the MMS I went to academics were the last thing on anyones mind. We hardly went to school. Achievement were based on physical and emotional success.

Im actually hardly on this site....If you truly believe your life is well, than good. Yet it seems you still have a lot of issues to work out.  Im glad your doing so well, and have turned around to try and save others lives. Good luck with that. If this is Sam S, here you are defending your life and giving me hard time about blaire, yet why is it that no one knew you were friends since you were little. Why is it only when she passed did we all learn about your bond???
iF this is Annick, don't give me ahard time about your time at MMS. You were one of the hardest girls there and you were so hard and mean to Blaire. Why not calm down a bit and not try and act so differently and just be differnent.

 "do not have some bizarre need to defend a place that traumatized me. "
good, but I don't beleive MMS tramatized me....therefore i defend it.


"You defend your internship with statements like, "Hey, I just stood there and watched." or "I was supposed to learn from the experiance."
If it was so bad, and you were being tramatized why didn't you say something when john was being so mean, and rude.
I watched a room full of girls be put to there knees in tears, myself included, when john told a new girl what her parents really died of.
A girl stood up and told him off.......it does happen, people do stand up....did you??? will you???
As  student I right before I left I too stood up the staff and was sent on a personal solo....during a intervention. Anygirl that was there will remember...Don't tell me what I should ahve done when you didn't do anything and your not doing anyhting to better what you think is wrong........

hey anon,
Is there a way to get ahold of Ashley?? Ive been looking for her for while, esp after elizabeth died.....
Whats she up to??

"When you interned at MMS you were just as bad as the other staff. Remember intervention?? It was horrible. You watched what happened to Blair there, you sat by John's side and preached. That seemed OK to you? I remember you, how you damaged people. Do you remember me? You seemed like a bully then, and you were "all grown up" the perfect little MMS spokesperson. How can you say that you felt fear as a student, and then strive to instill it in the students. WHY HAS NO ONE SAID THIS BEFORE? You were more concerned with John's approval (even as an adult) and successfully completeting your internship than the students- your fellow human beings. I have pictures of you standing around as Blair was humiliated and emotionally ripped apart. You are in the background chatting with Carla with a lively smile on your face.
You make me sick. I can't listen to anymore of your garbage. You are so full of shit, even John would call it out. Gimme a f-ing break.
MMS Survivor"



Dear Anon,
I don't know your name, so I don't specifically remember who you are but there is only one person who comes to mind.
I'm soo sorry you are so angry at me. I didn't purposefully or malicously treat you girls in anyway.
My internship wasn't about me being a staff....technically, according to John I wasn't a "Staff" I was to stand by and watch,....interact with you girls some and that was about it. As far as I remember thats all I did. My internship wasn't about calling out John or correcting him as he addressed you girls.......
Honestly, and I know this isn't an excuse, yet I knew NO OTHER WAY. I didn't even know there was a right or wrong way or even about credentials, till about  a year ago when I found Kat and this site.
Interventions, god I was on so many during my stay that the ONE you went on was a norm to me. The way you were talked to was everyday at MMS. Im not trying to justify what I did, yet hoping you will understand. Having been a student there and coming back to a somewhat laid back MMS, I thought you got it easy for what it was when I was there. Remember, I was a student, and I was a student when ALL  founding staff was involved in day to day. I hardly ever went  to school, or only did a 25 mile bike ride for an activity.....try 50 or more.
I know we all have our stories and once again im sorry.
Honestly, the only acceptence I was looking for was from no one. The John I knew at MMS as an intern was 100% different John than I knew as a student.
At that time in my life I had asked to be an intern, so to get my life straight. I had been though quite a bit since MMS, and I needed a break. I had been raped not even a year after MMS, my mom treated me like shit and life was real bad....I needed  way to get away ................MMS was my out.

" I have pictures of you standing around as Blair was humiliated and emotionally ripped apart. You are in the background chatting with Carla with a lively smile on your face."

If i was in the background talking to a fellow staff, than in no way was I apart of the conversation.
Nor was it my job to correct John.

 "You watched what happened to Blair there, you sat by John's side and preached. That seemed OK to you?"

Once again Honestly, and its no excuse I know, yet I knew no other way. I was a scapegoat at MMS as was Blair.....I knew what she was going through.

Also, to add to that HOW DARE YOU try and put the blame on me as to what happened to Blair, as if I could have helped her from killing herself. YOU CAN GO AND SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!

I have talked to Blaire many times before she died, and, still talk to Chris, her boyfrriend at the time.
Our stories were similar before, during and even after MMS, and not once, NOT FUCKING ONCE.....did she ever blame me or talk to me in such way......who do you think you are???!!!!!!!!! who are you???
as words wisely spoken from Metallica
"don't judge, yet thee be jugded themself" hope it makes sence for  simple minds.....
Go ahead think im full of shit, feel free, we all obviously have our own opinion. Yet for your sake I hope you seek out help.
B


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I am I,
Two individuals dancing on our own two feet, & when were together...its beautiful[ This Message was edited by: BarnardlyB on 2006-03-01 20:38 ]

yep you know it.....
Im a juggalett and im proud!!!! Geek to the end....better to be who you are, not what you think you should be or are pretending to be. But whatever helps you sleep at night..............