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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 05, 2006, 04:11:55 PM
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I have heard from some sources that if I send my daughter to a program that is located in a country where the legal age is 21, That she could be held until her 21st birthday. Can anyone confirm this? If so, what country or countries? My daughter is almost 18 and I ned to get her out of the US before her 18th birthday. She needs a lengthy stay at a facilty that will try to help her.
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8.5/10 on the troll scale. Not bad. Should get quite a number of decent replies.
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I understand Liberia is nice this time of year.
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I have heard from some sources that if I send my daughter to a program that is located in a country where the legal age is 21, That she could be held until her 21st birthday. Can anyone confirm this? If so, what country or countries? My daughter is almost 18 and I ned to get her out of the US before her 18th birthday. She needs a lengthy stay at a facilty that will try to help her.
Why don't you just save yourself the cost of a plane ticket and lock her in your basement? You could keep her there as long as you want.
Heck, you could even make some extra money by inviting the neghborhood guys over, and renting her out as a sex slave.
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That's what SIBS is all about, baby! http://fornits.com/SIBS/ (http://fornits.com/SIBS/)
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There are some middle eastern countries you could send her to that would teach her modesty and RESPECT for her superiors (i.e., men).
Ouch!
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I have heard from some sources that if I send my daughter to a program that is located in a country where the legal age is 21, That she could be held until her 21st birthday. Can anyone confirm this? If so, what country or countries? My daughter is almost 18 and I ned to get her out of the US before her 18th birthday. She needs a lengthy stay at a facilty that will try to help her.
You can cum on her face,but dont cum in her mouth or in her ass and you are in the clear.
Dont make any videos of this because it could mean trouble later.
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:rofl: OMG!
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I have heard from some sources that if I send my daughter to a program that is located in a country where the legal age is 21, That she could be held until her 21st birthday. Can anyone confirm this? If so, what country or countries? My daughter is almost 18 and I ned to get her out of the US before her 18th birthday. She needs a lengthy stay at a facilty that will try to help her.
You can cum on her face,but dont cum in her mouth or in her ass and you are in the clear.
Dont make any videos of this because it could mean trouble later.
Good answer. :tup:
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I have heard from some sources that if I send my daughter to a program that is located in a country where the legal age is 21, That she could be held until her 21st birthday. Can anyone confirm this? If so, what country or countries? My daughter is almost 18 and I ned to get her out of the US before her 18th birthday. She needs a lengthy stay at a facilty that will try to help her.[/quote
this has got to be a joke. if not you are a joke of a parent. i am not wasting anymore time on you either way.
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Why is it Survivor you seem to be the only one taking this tripe seriously?
i come here to be serious. i thought that is what this forum was for. i dont want to offend anyone though. i guess it bothers you that i use the forum for its intended purpose.do we want to give the impression to everyone who comes here that we are just joking about everything?i am not trying to be a jerk either in asking this,just keeping it real.
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Why is it Survivor you seem to be the only one taking this tripe seriously?
i come here to be serious. i thought that is what this forum was for. i dont want to offend anyone though. i guess it bothers you that i use the forum for its intended purpose.do we want to give the impression to everyone who comes here that we are just joking about everything?i am not trying to be a jerk either in asking this,just keeping it real.[/quote)
i wish i could quit forgetting to log in
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There's a nice little WWASP on foreign soil that might suit your needs:
Innuendo Bay, located off the coast of Yomama. It's got NATSAP, JCAHO, HOMO NOMO, every seal of approval you can buy.
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Why is it Survivor you seem to be the only one taking this tripe seriously?
i come here to be serious. i thought that is what this forum was for. i dont want to offend anyone though. i guess it bothers you that i use the forum for its intended purpose.do we want to give the impression to everyone who comes here that we are just joking about everything?i am not trying to be a jerk either in asking this,just keeping it real.
I told you that you can jerk it on her face,just not in her mouth.
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I have heard from some sources that if I send my daughter to a program that is located in a country where the legal age is 21, That she could be held until her 21st birthday. Can anyone confirm this? If so, what country or countries? My daughter is almost 18 and I ned to get her out of the US before her 18th birthday. She needs a lengthy stay at a facilty that will try to help her.
You should place your daughter in Tranquility Bay, Jamaica. You have every right as a parent to have the girl shackeled at 2 A.M. in her bedroom, flown under force to this foreign country, and held their until she turns 21. That is your right as a parent as the law stands.
It might not be necessary however, since the 18 year old programs in U.S. programs use high pressure techniques to keep kids from leaving. If your daughter remains in the U.S., the program can threaten to drop her off with only the clothes on her back in a horrible part of town, at any moment. The other effective part of this technique is to make it clear to your daughter, that you will completely discommunicate her from your family. So if she chooses to leave the 18 year old program, she won't be your problem anymore. No guilt! Afterall, she chose to do this to herself, right? Why do our kids hate themselves so much?
There are programs that would love to keep your daughter well past the age of 21. If she does well and accepts the dogma, she will find employment very easily and can stay forever. Isn't that such a magical and wonderful thought, you can get rid of her forever; and in a stable, rewarding career -- helping other children become just like her.
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I would not stick my nose into others affairs but could you give us a hint of what so ever reason that could result in sending a almost mature person away just as it should start a life of its own?
I know of the D-word. The states is a huge area and we are talking one child and I don't know how many family members in your family. Is that child not out-numbered if you choose to go into a wood in a tent with the child until the effects of the drugs is wearing off and a sensible conversation can take place?
I also know of the P-word. A grand-son or grand-daughter in the middle of an education is not aiding to a good result. A lot of young girls have a all bright picture of motherhood. But if you can afford some $ for a out of country programn, it should not be a problem to buy some simulation equipment like http://individual.utoronto.ca/elaine/baby.htm (http://individual.utoronto.ca/elaine/baby.htm) and some talks with a health visitor if you have them over there. Let her having her back killing her after a week carrying the extra weight. I still remember my wife back then. I remember the sleepless nights when our son had his first teeths.
Then there is the A-word. As a Dane I do not qualify talking about drinking. When time comes and if they lie around in the morning after having talked into the big china phone, I would properly do as my father did. Wake them by pouring cold water out over their face and body and make / force them to drink the strongest coffee possible that can leave the cup without the use of a spoon. Then a long walk often seems to the best place to talk about a proper way to enjoy alcohol. But as a Dane my task would be how to adwise my child to stay able to do normal work while enjoying about 55 liters of pure alcohol troughout the year as most of us Danes do. I respect that you have another culture and my adwise regarding that subject would not useful in another culture.
But then - Without a hint of what kind of problem, we are talking about, it is difficult to point out a solution to you. A solution that would mean that you can keep your child closer to home and spare you from wasting a lot of money and most certainly destroy whatever education You have planned for her.
So spill it!
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i come here to be serious. i thought that is what this forum was for. i dont want to offend anyone though. i guess it bothers you that i use the forum for its intended purpose.do we want to give the impression to everyone who comes here that we are just joking about everything?i am not trying to be a jerk either in asking this,just keeping it real.
Well, everyone's got their own interests in and intentions toward these forums. That's who I invited in the first place; anyone with any kind of interest in the topic. And I like the satire. Sometimes it's a real life saver. Especially for those of us with a sustained interest in the topic. It can get a bit morose after awhile; never mind the mind numbing redundancy of power struggles and catiness among various revolving casts of the usual players. So a little levity is just as welcome here as anything.
So is serious discussion. . .
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i come here to be serious. i thought that is what this forum was for. i dont want to offend anyone though. i guess it bothers you that i use the forum for its intended purpose.do we want to give the impression to everyone who comes here that we are just joking about everything?i am not trying to be a jerk either in asking this,just keeping it real.
Well, everyone's got their own interests in and intentions toward these forums. That's who I invited in the first place; anyone with any kind of interest in the topic. And I like the satire. Sometimes it's a real life saver. Especially for those of us with a sustained interest in the topic. It can get a bit morose after awhile; never mind the mind numbing redundancy of power struggles and catiness among various revolving casts of the usual players. So a little levity is just as welcome here as anything.
So is serious discussion. . .
i acknowledged it must be a joke and said i wasnt going to waste any more time on that post and left it alone and i have brought on wrath. if serious discussion is welcome then why do people have a problem with me posting serious. i didnt say anything about a joke being posted other than to defend myself when someone had a problem with me being serious. i just dont have much to joke about with these programs. the one i went to didnt have anything to joke about. it has caused me severe mental trauma- no joking matter. i will go somewhere else as it appears you folks dont want me here
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yup
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I would not stick my nose into others affairs but could you give us a hint of what so ever reason that could result in sending a almost mature person away just as it should start a life of its own?
Covergaard, the more you say the more I think about moving to Denmark. I feel I'd be right at home there.
I know of the D-word. The states is a huge area and we are talking one child and I don't know how many family members in your family. Is that child not out-numbered if you choose to go into a wood in a tent with the child until the effects of the drugs is wearing off and a sensible conversation can take place?
I've seen bumper stickers that say "Take your kid hunting, don't hunt your kid". So I know I have some kindred spirits here and there. But that certainly isn't the prevailing attitude among American parents of this generation. 12-Step superstition pervades our society on all levels. Have you seen any American daytime talk television? They're set up like encounter sessions and deal very publicly with the most intimate issues in their "guests" lives. I can't even stand to watch them because it reminds me how dangerously unbalanced must be the millions of my neighbors who have kept this format of infotainment so popular for so many years. Makes it hard to be cordial w/ strangers, ya know?
I also know of the P-word. A grand-son or grand-daughter in the middle of an education is not aiding to a good result. A lot of young girls have a all bright picture of motherhood. But if you can afford some $ for a out of country programn, it should not be a problem to buy some simulation equipment like http://individual.utoronto.ca/elaine/baby.htm (http://individual.utoronto.ca/elaine/baby.htm) and some talks with a health visitor if you have them over there. Let her having her back killing her after a week carrying the extra weight. I still remember my wife back then. I remember the sleepless nights when our son had his first teeths.
Fact is that teen pregnancy is down in recent years in this country. You wouldn't know it for all the fear mongering. But it actually is. And there's been a rallying cry for "zero tolerance" in that area as well. You see the occasional news item about an incident that's just so far over the top you almost can't believe it; the 6yo boy expelled from school for kissing a classmate on the cheek, for example. By the time these kids hit 16, it's a wonder they're not just about all sexual diviants w/ all the anxiety about sexuality that we pile on them.
Here's how I dealt with it w/ my daughter. There was this one very rude boy in her class who just didn't know when to quit. He'd grab the girls in inapropriate ways and talk dirty till they cried. My daughter came home one day talking about making a sexual harassment complaint. I told her no, don't do that, it'll solve nothing and cause a lot of grief. Do this instead. Next time that boy gets out of line with you kick him hard in the balls, preferably in front of a crowd. She took my advice. Not only did that boy quit harassing girls that way, my daughter never had a moment's trouble w/ any of the rest of them after that either.
So simple yet so illusive to some people.
But as a Dane my task would be how to adwise my child to stay able to do normal work while enjoying about 55 liters of pure alcohol troughout the year as most of us Danes do. I respect that you have another culture and my adwise regarding that subject would not useful in another culture.
We drink quite a lot around here too. The difference is, as I say, 12-step superstition pervades our society. Instead of getting up and going to work like a respectable human being, it's considered proper instead to get upset and depressed, skip work, find a meeting, start the whole confession, self loathing cycle, in the end blame the beer and claim salvation through powerlessness. Ok, that's it, when's the next plane outa here?
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Oh, he did. Made her real heroine too.
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I would have kicked the little shit in the balls too!!!!
i don't get the whole hysteria around drinking. Doesn't taking something and making it all naughty and forbidden only make it much more tempting anyway? When I was growing up alcohol was freely available in the house to anyone who wanted it. I once asked if I could try scotch and coke when i was nine and was told no. It was either scotch with soda, water or nothing but an ice cube. The taste burnt my throat and I realised it was not a drink i was old enough to enjoy.
Quite often as a kid if my parents had wine with dinner we could sample a small glass with 1/3rd wine and the rest water. It didnt stop the teenage binge phase but after a few incidents of hugging the toilet crying and wishing i were dead, i learnt the value of moderation.
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I am a little confused.
Back some months the Danish supermodel May Andersen was arrested. In Denmark our laws regarding sexual harassment is relaxed. Jokes about skin colour, religion, sex etc. in the work space is only forbidden if there is a written policy against it. Danish woman are expected to take care of the problem them selves by slapping the offender in the face: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_har ... isdictions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment#Other_jurisdictions)
As investigation in Denmark have shown, May Andersen was wearing blindfold because she was sleeping during the flight. When the flight attendant bend in over her in order to adjust the seat next to her, she woke and slapped him in the face by reflex still wearing blindfold because she felt his breath in her face. That incident resulted in a shameful conviction (Therapy is regarded shameful in some parts of Denmark what ever the cause can be. Recently our government removed the discount in the penalty people convicted of DUI could get if they underwent treatment. The penalty for this crime in Denmark are harsh according to your standards. So just dont do it overhere).
And you are recommeding a kick in the ball? Could your child not risk being procecuted for some kind of violence?
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Actually I think Ginger was actively encouraging it. Hooray for her, and it is a good lesson to the little bastard who apparently was having problems keeping his hands to himself. As far for criminal charges being filed? It is possible, just not that likely.
I don't suggest or endorse violence myself for every situation, but that little shit really did sound like had it coming.
Short term, 'natural consequences' is what I support vs long term, aritifical, BM/brainwashing/mind control/incarceration/institution type 'treatment'.
If someone cant take no for an answer, kick him in the nuts. He learned his lesson, and he can move on.
Now, if the little shit was put in a WWASPS program, hed come out either fucked up, or even better at manipulating people and psycho... and still a perv either way.
Think about it. Kick to the nuts, or the 6 figure, 12 month (or more) bullshit most people peddle these days?
What might WORK? What might actually fuck him up for more than a few hours?
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i acknowledged it must be a joke and said i wasnt going to waste any more time on that post and left it alone and i have brought on wrath. if serious discussion is welcome then why do people have a problem with me posting serious. i didnt say anything about a joke being posted other than to defend myself when someone had a problem with me being serious. i just dont have much to joke about with these programs. the one i went to didnt have anything to joke about. it has caused me severe mental trauma- no joking matter. i will go somewhere else as it appears you folks dont want me here
I was also in Bethel during the same time you were (85-86). It was brutal, and they just don't get much worse than that. And if you don't learn to lighten up, you're gonna have a total meltdown. A little humor here and there is really necessary to keep your sanity.
So lose the bad attitude or you're gonna get 3 licks. :D
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Actually I think Ginger was actively encouraging it. Hooray for her, and it is a good lesson to the little bastard who apparently was having problems keeping his hands to himself. As far for criminal charges being filed? It is possible, just not that likely.
I don't suggest or endorse violence myself for every situation, but that little shit really did sound like had it coming.
Short term, 'natural consequences' is what I support vs long term, aritifical, BM/brainwashing/mind control/incarceration/institution type 'treatment'.
If someone cant take no for an answer, kick him in the nuts. He learned his lesson, and he can move on.
Now, if the little shit was put in a WWASPS program, hed come out either fucked up, or even better at manipulating people and psycho... and still a perv either way.
Think about it. Kick to the nuts, or the 6 figure, 12 month (or more) bullshit most people peddle these days?
What might WORK? What might actually fuck him up for more than a few hours?
Your assertions ... "If someone cant take no for an answer, kick him in the nuts. He learned his lesson, and he can move on.
Now, if the little shit was put in a WWASPS program, hed come out either fucked up, or even better at manipulating people and psycho... and still a perv either way.
Think about it. Kick to the nuts, or the 6 figure, 12 month (or more) bullshit most people peddle these days?"
WHAT makes it all this or that? Isn't kicking him child abuse in most places? And is WWASPS the only alternative?
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Of course it's not. You can always go for one of the highly abusive programs peddled by Sue Scheff or Lon Woodbury, or some other hellhole.
Alternatively you could pretend to be a human being and accept that a swift kick to the balls is a much more relevant, direct, logical consequence of sexual harassment, with far fewer negative long-term effects.
But I don't think you can pretend to be human for a thought or two.
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i come here to be serious. i thought that is what this forum was for. i dont want to offend anyone though. i guess it bothers you that i use the forum for its intended purpose.do we want to give the impression to everyone who comes here that we are just joking about everything?i am not trying to be a jerk either in asking this,just keeping it real.
Well, everyone's got their own interests in and intentions toward these forums. That's who I invited in the first place; anyone with any kind of interest in the topic. And I like the satire. Sometimes it's a real life saver. Especially for those of us with a sustained interest in the topic. It can get a bit morose after awhile; never mind the mind numbing redundancy of power struggles and catiness among various revolving casts of the usual players. So a little levity is just as welcome here as anything.
So is serious discussion. . .
Your just pissed off because nobody has ever wanted to cum on your face.
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Actually I think Ginger was actively encouraging it. Hooray for her, and it is a good lesson to the little bastard who apparently was having problems keeping his hands to himself. As far for criminal charges being filed? It is possible, just not that likely.
I don't suggest or endorse violence myself for every situation, but that little shit really did sound like had it coming.
Short term, 'natural consequences' is what I support vs long term, aritifical, BM/brainwashing/mind control/incarceration/institution type 'treatment'.
If someone cant take no for an answer, kick him in the nuts. He learned his lesson, and he can move on.
Now, if the little shit was put in a WWASPS program, hed come out either fucked up, or even better at manipulating people and psycho... and still a perv either way.
Think about it. Kick to the nuts, or the 6 figure, 12 month (or more) bullshit most people peddle these days?
What might WORK? What might actually fuck him up for more than a few hours?
Your assertions ... "If someone cant take no for an answer, kick him in the nuts. He learned his lesson, and he can move on.
Now, if the little shit was put in a WWASPS program, hed come out either fucked up, or even better at manipulating people and psycho... and still a perv either way.
Think about it. Kick to the nuts, or the 6 figure, 12 month (or more) bullshit most people peddle these days?"
WHAT makes it all this or that? Isn't kicking him child abuse in most places? And is WWASPS the only alternative?
"Can't take no for an answer"
If some guy is sexually molesting some girl and can't take no for an answer, kicking him in the nuts isn't child abuse, it's self-defense.
I so badly want to insult you right now, but if I do, I'll feel horrible about it later. It would be nice if you had read more carefully before replying to Niles' post.
Julie
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Actually I think Ginger was actively encouraging it. Hooray for her, and it is a good lesson to the little bastard who apparently was having problems keeping his hands to himself. As far for criminal charges being filed? It is possible, just not that likely.
I don't suggest or endorse violence myself for every situation, but that little shit really did sound like had it coming.
Short term, 'natural consequences' is what I support vs long term, aritifical, BM/brainwashing/mind control/incarceration/institution type 'treatment'.
If someone cant take no for an answer, kick him in the nuts. He learned his lesson, and he can move on.
Now, if the little shit was put in a WWASPS program, hed come out either fucked up, or even better at manipulating people and psycho... and still a perv either way.
Think about it. Kick to the nuts, or the 6 figure, 12 month (or more) bullshit most people peddle these days?
What might WORK? What might actually fuck him up for more than a few hours?
Your assertions ... "If someone cant take no for an answer, kick him in the nuts. He learned his lesson, and he can move on.
Now, if the little shit was put in a WWASPS program, hed come out either fucked up, or even better at manipulating people and psycho... and still a perv either way.
Think about it. Kick to the nuts, or the 6 figure, 12 month (or more) bullshit most people peddle these days?"
WHAT makes it all this or that? Isn't kicking him child abuse in most places? And is WWASPS the only alternative?
"Can't take no for an answer"
If some guy is sexually molesting some girl and can't take no for an answer, kicking him in the nuts isn't child abuse, it's self-defense.
I so badly want to insult you right now, but if I do, I'll feel horrible about it later. It would be nice if you had read more carefully before replying to Niles' post.
Julie
WHEN to kick the nuts is the question.
If you are so stupid that you need somebody to teach you ahead of time WHEN it is appropriate to kick the nuts,then you deserve to be molested.
But my mommy says its not nice to kick you in the nuts.
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I find it absurd how someone attempting to sexually harrass or worse and getting a good kick in the nuts for his efforts is now the victim.
The nut kicked boy is a victim of abuse?
No.. the nut kicked boy just got what he had coming to him from one of his own peers.
I am going to hope to heck that you misread the previous posts and just made an oversight.
Well,you should kick him/her where ever you want,or can,and if that kick happend to land in the crotch,or if the crotch is the only available exposed area to land the kick,then by all means,kick em in the nuts.
Teaching people to go straight to the nuts is kind of irresponsible.
My daddy never told me "Kick her as hard as you can in the vagina".
Why all this fixating on the nuts?
Give the nuts a rest. Poke em in the eye!
Nuts.I mean REALLY.
Thats what this is,its about the nuts,not the victim.
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Great Advice Ginger! A little kick in the nuts can prevent alot later.The problem was quickly resolved. And that was the goal. Goal achieved!
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Last post was mine. Thought I was logged in.
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Why thank you. Man, this has gotten to be an interesting thread!
No, I never did think of the nut kicked boy as a victim. He was a big kid, prolly 5'5" at least (Uh, 5"5' ta you, pls help) and he was frightening the little girls and making them cry pretty regularly. Never mind the private sector gulags, they've still only got a very small share of the market. The public sector acculturation centers are bad enough. If my kid had done as the schoolpeople told her to do, she would have reported the incidents to a teacher or counselor or some such. Then the administrators would dole out some punishment, instantly making the whole thing a very public matter. Then the shrinks would arrive on the scene shortly thereafter. They'd trip right over the obvious ramifications of public shaming inflicted, however well intendedly, by the schoolpeople and start asking loaded questions leading up to how and for what the parents might be to blame. No pressure, kid... just tell us everything we want to know...
As de dawg chases his tail, so you can guess the rest from there.
Indeed, I think my daughter and the boy were far, far better off this way.