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I was curious as to the changes, so I called.

1. Kids must go through some form of wilderness first, such as ascent.
2. Ulrich still works with them
3. The program is for one year, and you must be at least 17 to go.
4. Raps are called groups and therapists are present. Admissions says it's "not as intense", for what it's worth. She said that people "really don't understand that kind of thing." Also said that people didn't really understand the term "rap" so they changed it to group.
5. Fewer propheets because of the time a kid stays there. Not all were mentioned. The ones she talked about there were the dreams, the childrens and the IWTL.
6. They still do the I & Me and Summit
7. There are still watered down parent versions of the propheets (including the IWTL) The only difference being that they are now on campus. Less intense than what we went through, obviously, but longer than the old parent workshops from the 80s. Day, day and a half, about.
8. They now practice stepcraft.
9. Anyone remember Claudia in admissions? She was there in the 90s apparently. That's who I spoke with.

You can only decorate a twinkie so many ways. It's still a fucking twinkie.

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Major brownie points for my editing teacher, who found this.

Remember when Oprah opened up some school for girls in Johannesburg?

Some parents aren't too thrilled with it. (article)

Limited contact with parents
Visitors must be approved
Point system of rewards
Questionable diet

Who knows what else, knowing Oprah and her perchant for LGAT mind-fuckery.

I wish I could say I was surprised, but I'm not.

What I want to know is, where the hell are all of these concerned and worried parents who have children in facilities over here?

Ah well, this post is going to dust in about a day anyway. Just thought I'd stick it in here while it's fresh in my mind.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / How many?
« on: March 11, 2007, 09:38:53 PM »
Does anyone have any rough estimate of how many TBS facilities/boot camps/wilderness camps are operating? (and I do mean rough)

heal-online's figures don't state this, but they do state that about 50,000 kids are sent to these places a year, and that there have been close to 300 related deaths in the last ten years.

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Web forum hosting / email topic response links
« on: March 11, 2007, 12:21:57 AM »
Anyone having this problem since yesterday? The links that come in my fornits emails to direct me to a topic that I am watching redirects me to a blank page. It does this in both browsers, so I know it's not a browser problem. I can copy and paste the link, and have the same issue.

Also, the cookies were working fine for me yesterday (finally) in terms of keeping me logged in and such. Now they are back to the way they were before. I deleted them in Firefox, and now they won't even show back up.

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Let It Bleed / good software for media conversion.
« on: March 04, 2007, 10:04:00 PM »
Hey, guys, I need some help.

I'm looking for a good piece of software that can convert .flv files to .mov.

Someone suggested Cinema Forge, and after looking at it, there were some concerns I had. One, the uninstall is weird. (One has to hit the question mark on the interface. Add/remove programs won't do it.) Two, it installs two activeX components onto your system. Yucky.

It's basically a front end for ffmpeg. Ideally, I would really just like to use ffmpeg on its own. It's command line, which is fine. However, I don't have the time to figure out how to install the libraries (It's been a while since I programmed in C) and then learn the syntax. (In addition, I'm having a hard time figuring out how to download it. The home page has links to other packages, but not ffmpeg.)

Most other converters I've seen out there include a watermark for their unpaid version, or a time limitation. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Or.. have you used Cinema Forge (freeware version) and found it to be good?

This is for the video I'm doing on TBS facilities.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / need footage for TBS video
« on: February 12, 2007, 06:40:13 AM »
So...

I'm an idiot. Why? Cause I actually took Gookie up on a challenge, and now, instead of a cute funny little bit I was going to do on side effects of psych meds for my editing class, I have the monumental task of trying to pare down to about 2-5 minutes the horrors of the TBS industry for a video.

As a result, I need footage. As much of it as I can find. And it can't be copyrighted. (Might be some flexibility regarding that.)

I already have the Martin Lee Anderson stuff, but I am in the process of finding a better version, the one I have cuts off towards the end. AND, it is debatable whether I will use it, since it shows a kid getting killed.

It can be stills, it doesn't need to be video. I know that I have seen very little in terms of images within facilities, with the exception of some I have seen for TB (and I believe they were copyrighted). I have a buttload of pictures from CEDU, but none of which showing things like propheets, workshops and raps. All the pics are of happy people. Besides, that would be a conflict of interest, since I'm the one making the video. (Unless I want it to be autobiographical, which I don't.)

My other issue is how to streamline my focus. I can't just talk about how all of this is bad. It would take forever, and I only have a few minutes. I've thrown out the idea of focusing on one facility, because that sidesteps the issue of it being systemic. It needs stats, facts, methods, money, and there needs to be an arc to the story.

I'm kind of all over the place with this right now. I might actually end up withdrawing from the class this quarter at the very end, take it again next quarter, and make the video a two-quarter project.

Anyway, any direction people can point me regarding reference footage would be great. Any other ideas would also be helpful.

I know it's kind of a stupid question. You think I would know all the places to find this shit already, but I don't.

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Synanon / Synanon and current-day rehabs.
« on: February 11, 2007, 05:03:04 AM »
Anyone been to George Farnsworth's site?

This is what it says on the front page:

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NOTE: Synanon is no longer in operation. If you need help -- try these links: Narcotics Anonymous, Delancey Street, Walden House, Samaritan Village in Brooklyn, Amity Foundation or Phoenix House  all staffed or run by former Synanon residents.


 :o

Okay, I already know that Phoenix house is a huge sketch fest, but does anyone have info on these other places? Can anyone establish a connection?

My ex worked at Walden, and I'm gonna ask him about it. I doubt he knows anything, though. I remember some of the shit he used to write about the place, though. The main thing I remember is how they were mostly concerned with filling the beds, and that was his job, to fill the beds. Probably has a lot to do with retaining funding, since if you don't have full beds, the city will make cuts to your program. Anyway, he used to get a lot of shit if he didn't get someone he was doing "intake" with to actually enter into the program. There were several points where he thought he was going to lose his job because he wasn't making "quota".

I know that rehabs are a bunch of crap, but aside from the stepcraft connection, I had no idea that there was a possibility of a connection with a full-blown cult like Synanon.

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Open Free for All / Battlestar Galactica (re-imagined series)
« on: February 07, 2007, 05:33:58 AM »
Wondering if any other nerds on this site watch this show.

Fuck, it's good.

I haven't seen season 3.0-3.5 yet, though.


Favorite character so far has GOT to be Admiral Cain. We were safer with her than we are without.

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Tacitus' Realm / Molly Ivins dies at 62
« on: January 31, 2007, 07:49:32 PM »


Molly Ivins dies of Cancer at 62

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Best-selling author and columnist Molly Ivins, the sharp-witted liberal who skewered the political establishment and referred to President Bush as "Shrub," died Wednesday after a long battle with breast cancer. She was 62.

David Pasztor, managing editor of the Texas Observer, confirmed her death.

The writer, who made a living poking fun at Texas politicians, whether they were in her home base of Austin or the White House, revealed in early 2006 that she was being treated for breast cancer for the third time.

More than 400 newspapers subscribed to her nationally syndicated column, which combined strong liberal views and populist-toned humor. Ivins' illness did not seem to hurt her ability to deliver biting one-liners.

"I'm sorry to say (cancer) can kill you but it doesn't make you a better person," she said in an interview with the San Antonio Express-News in September, the same month cancer claimed her friend former Gov. Ann Richards.

To Ivins, "liberal" wasn't an insult term. "Even I felt sorry for Richard Nixon when he left; there's nothing you can do about being born liberal ? fish gotta swim and hearts gotta bleed," she wrote in a column included in her 1998 collection, "You Got to Dance With Them What Brung You."

In a column in mid-January, Ivins urged readers to stand up against Bush's plan to send more troops to Iraq.

"We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war," Ivins wrote in the Jan. 11 column. "We need people in the streets, banging pots and pans and demanding, 'Stop it, now!'"

Ivins' best-selling books included those she co-authored with Lou Dubose about Bush. One was titled "Shrub: The Short but Happy Political Life of George W. Bush" and another was "BUSHWHACKED: Life in George W. Bush's America."

Ivins' jolting satire was directed at people in positions of power. She maintained that aiming it at the powerless would be cruel.

"The trouble with blaming powerless people is that although it's not nearly as scary as blaming the powerful, it does miss the point," she wrote in a 1997 column. "Poor people do not shut down factories ... Poor people didn't decide to use `contract employees' because they cost less and don't get any benefits."

In an Austin speech last year, former President Bill Clinton described Ivins as someone who was "good when she praised me and who was painfully good when she criticized me."

Ivins loved to write about politics and called the Texas Legislature, which she playfully referred to as "The Lege," the best free entertainment in Austin.

"Naturally, when it comes to voting, we in Texas are accustomed to discerning that fine hair's-breadth worth of difference that makes one hopeless dipstick slightly less awful than the other. But it does raise the question: Why bother?" she wrote in a 2002 column about a California political race.

Born Mary Tyler Ivins, the California native grew up in Houston. She graduated from Smith College in 1966 and attended Columbia University's journalism school. She also studied for a year at the Institute of Political Sciences in Paris.

Her first newspaper job was in the complaint department of the Houston Chronicle. She worked her way up at the Chronicle, then went on to the Minneapolis Tribune, becoming the first woman police reporter in the city.

Ivins counted as her highest honors that the Minneapolis police force named its mascot pig after her and that she was once banned from the campus of Texas A&M University, according to a biography on the Creators Syndicate Web site.

In the late 1960s, according to the syndicate, she was assigned to a beat called "Movements for Social Change" and wrote about "angry blacks, radical students, uppity women and a motley assortment of other misfits and troublemakers."

Ivins later became co-editor of The Texas Observer, a liberal Austin-based biweekly publication of politics and literature that was founded more than 50 years ago.

She joined The New York Times in 1976. She worked first as a political reporter in New York and later was named Rocky Mountain bureau chief, covering nine mountain states.

But Ivins' use of salty language and her habit of going barefoot in the office were too much for the Times, said longtime friend Ben Sargent, editorial cartoonist with the Austin American-Statesman.

"She's a force of nature," Sargent said.

Ivins returned to Texas as a columnist for the Dallas Times-Herald in 1982, and after it closed she spent nine years with the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. In 2001, she went independent and wrote her column for Creators Syndicate.

In 1995, conservative humorist Florence King accused Ivins in "American Enterprise" magazine of plagiarism for failing to properly credit King for several passages in a 1988 article in "Mother Jones." Ivins apologized, saying the omissions were unintentional and pointing out that she credited King elsewhere in the piece.

She was initially diagnosed with breast cancer in 1999, and she had a recurrence in 2003. Her latest diagnosis came around Thanksgiving 2005.

_________________________________________



This is a serious bummer for me. As a native Texan, and as someone who admired her irreverence and her sharp wit.

I'll miss you, Molly! :cry2:

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / programmies vs. survivors
« on: January 19, 2007, 01:51:48 PM »
Ever wonder what makes someone a programmie and makes someone else a survivor? Well, I obviously do, or else I wouldn't be posting this fucking thread.

Is it arbitrary? Signs point to no, in my opinion. I'm fairly certain I am stating the obvious, here,  but what the fuck do I know?

I personally don't think this is a question of intelligence or level of suggestibility. I know programmies whom I remember as extremely intelligent people. And I myself am highly suggestible, and consider myself a survivor. I could see a commercial on TV for Reeses peanut butter cups and say "You know, that doesn't sound half bad right now. I think I'll go to the corner store and pick myself up some." Even though I am fully aware that the commercial was partially responsible for my craving. (And no, I don't do this with every single commercial. I'd be a fucking blimp by now.)

I think it boils down to identity. The more in conflict someone's identity is with the dogma, the more conflict they will have reconciling it once they get out. There will be a fight to reclaim what has been lost. Some succeed, some flounder, suffer and question themselves, feeling shame and anger about how who they are does not jibe with what they were taught. Some may even develop personality disorders. In all scenarios, there is a conflict with identity, and at least some degree of suffering and trauma.

So how does it work with the programmies? Their identity is in synch with the program. This doesn't mean that that they were not subjected to the same brutal treatment than the others, or "skated by". Rather, the program was in "agreement" with who they are. It didn't create a conflict of character in or out of the program. The programmie willingly accepts the program's modes of conformity because it suits them and their inherent sensibilities. These sensibilities may have not been evident prior to entering a place like CEDU, because, after all, teens are rebellious, but there was something in their belief system that embraced the program on a deeper level than those of us who were simply victims of brainwashing.

Because of this cohesion, the belief in the program sustains itself long after the programmie exits the environment. I've often asked myself "Why do some people still, after all of this time, believe in this shit?" Well, maybe it's as simple as the fact that they are wired that way. There IS no repression of the psyche, because it jibes with the crap it has been taught, at its most basic level. Zero conflict. Zero contradiction. Is it denial? Well, it is denial that it's abuse, but it is not in the sense that the identity absorbs the ideology and makes it a part of itself. Round peg, round hole.

For those of us who don't fall into this category, we had to fight to regain ourselves. We survived something that sought to silence us. One man's repression is another one's emancipation. It's still abuse, for all of us. It's just that some people identify with abuse more than others.

The problem however, is that some programmies choose to pass that abuse on, in the name of what they believe to be love, or simply out of a sense of self-righteousness. These are obviously incredibly dangerous people.

All of these ruminations at this point are incredibly disorganized and possibly half-baked, and I will be the first to admit it. In some ways, I am simply thinking out loud. I also can't possibly pretend to know what goes on inside a programmie's head. It IS speculation, and just a theory. I CAN, of course, speak with more certainty on the survivor's perspective. What CEDU taught me was SO contradictory to my identity, at its most basic and fundamental level, that it was inevitable that I would have to face myself again and reconcile that conflict.

I think, for sure, that there are programmies who snap out of it. I mean, hell, most of us were programmies at one point, right? And we had to snap ourselves out of it. In this situation, I believe there was always conflict and denial regarding identity.

However, there are others who will never encounter this. Why? No conflict. These are the true programmies, and these are the people I am talking about.

For all I know, I could be wrong, and they may not even exist. Maybe ALL programmies are in denial about their conflict of identity. But it just seems that the program meshes SO well with who some of these people seem to be, that it's hard for me to tell. It's just that they seem so at peace with it. I don't remember feeling that way when I was at RMA, even though I was so incredibly brainwashed it wasn't even funny. I smiled like everyone else, and was terrified of being pulled, but my stomach was always churning. Regarding the ones who seem at peace with this... I guess Stacy Wasserman is a good example. She grew up with it. (She seemed disillusioned to me at one point and took some time off, but then she came back and headed up ASCENT.) I think Jackie is another. There are a few on the cedugraduates site who have been out longer than I have, who seem to fit this description as well. Oprah, and Dr. Phil, and Mel, and all of the people who create this shit to begin with. Sure, Mel might have been in it for the money, but there was something he saw in Synanon that clicked with him. I believe that.

This of course, could all be perfectly obvious to everyone else, and I'm just seeing it for the first time. I can be a bit slow on the uptake.

What do the rest of you think?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / crazy meds suck donkey dong
« on: January 18, 2007, 06:33:08 AM »
Haven't perused the site completely, but I like the cut of this guy's jib from what I've read so far.

http://crazymeds.org/

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I know, the meds suck donkey dong.

But you know what? When you're mentally ill and you're not taking the right medications, it sucks syphilitic donkey dong while a red-hot poker is being jammed up your ass.  That's what it's like without any meds at all, and that's what it's like if you're taking completely inappropriate medications.  And that's what it's like if you're taking psychiatric medications when you shouldn't be taking any at all.  

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Procrastination Thread
« on: January 17, 2007, 04:46:36 AM »
Post what you should be doing right now, instead of dicking around on the interwebs.


1. Shoot reference footage of me doing something with a box. This is with a camera I still have not read the instructions to.
2. Draw thumbnails of "golden poses" from the reference footage
3. Recreate "golden poses" in Maya with the assigned rig.

When this is due:
Today at 1pm.

Amount that I care, on a scale from 1-10:

0

(Which, coincidentally, is also going to be the grade I'm getting tomorrow.)

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Let's talk about the weather... / FUCK!!!!
« on: January 16, 2007, 10:40:40 PM »
IT'S COLD!!!

75% of the citrus crop in CA is shot to shit. Several million dollars down the toilet.

Freezing my fucking ass off! And to top it all off, it's now raining. If it keeps up, I'm willing to bet it will be snowing by tonight. Yes, that's right, snowing in San Francisco.

I left Syracuse to get away from this kind of shit!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Please remind me...
« on: January 16, 2007, 09:43:24 PM »
...NEVER to bring up my placement (at CEDU) to my parents, ever again.

I had some questions that had been nagging me, mainly about what the schools promised my parents and what they said they would do, in addition to my supposed "option". Just some blanks I needed to have filled in.

They BLEW THE FUCK UP. I mentioned at the start that this had nothing to do with critiquing their decision, it was simply some queries about what the school told them. Big mistake. It launched into a huge argument about the fact that I needed to go there and that they were "walking  on eggshells" around me. My stepfather chimed in and tried to browbeat me into how irrational I was back then. I said "Look, I'm not even here to talk about this, and I don't know how many times and how many different ways I can tell you that. I just have some questions about what the school said it would do." There was also the "why are  you thinking about this after all this time?" stuff, as well. An hour and a half later, I felt reasonably shut down and embarrassed.

Stupid stupid stupid. ***bangs head against wall*** Definitely my bad, that I would think that this could be a rational, adult conversation. If my stepfather ever tries to bring this up, I'm going to tell him to shut the fuck up. I'm never going to talk with them about this again. Castle, you're a fucking tard-o. ::ftard::

Let sleeping parents lie. :scared:  ::bangin::  ::noway::

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Let It Bleed / Stuff you've been dreaming about
« on: January 10, 2007, 10:21:15 PM »
Any good (or bad) dreams lately? This is the thread for you.



I was pushing a bowling ball through an underground maze that was like a sewer, except that the shallow water was opaque light blue. I chose to push it through the water, because the elevated banks on the sides were cluttered with colored plastic buckets that got in my way.

At the end of the maze, there was a wooden platform with a plank leading up to it like a ramp. On the platform, there was a shark jumping up and down beside a tree, trying to bite at a hollowed out knothole. I wondered if there was a squirrel in there that he was trying to eat.

Apparently, I was supposed to push the bowling ball up the plank, then when it got to the end, it would make the plank slam to the ground like a teeter totter, and something was supposed to happen to the shark. I never figured out what that was, since I got distracted and had to take my bowling ball and go back to my apartment.

Not sure what that shark's problem was.

And no, I don't make these up. I wish I was that creative.

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