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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: bonnevillebarbie on January 10, 2008, 11:42:15 AM
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Okay, i had to google his name to find the school. I laughed so hard when i saw the picture of the kids playing cards... Is card playing in the hand book these charlatains get? That is the one memory i have most prolific at RMA, playing hearts and spades, jesus, what a waste of time. if i only had that much time for academics, i could have been a genius, lol.
And check out the tuition!!!??? Just in case you have any money left over from the previous brainwashing of your child, we thought we could help you out...
Obscene i say!!
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http://www.echo-springs.com/main.htm (http://www.echo-springs.com/main.htm)
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Phase One
Time Frame: Six to nine months; when students have successfully met the objectives of Phase One, they transition to the next phase.
Tuition/Room/Board ................ $4,500 per month
Petty Cash/Activity Fee ............ $1,800/quarterly
Due upon enrollment:
First and Last Month's Tuition.............$9,000 *
Petty Cash/Activity Fee............................$1,800*
*Non-refundable and not prorated if a student voluntarily leaves the program prior to completion of Phase Two or is expelled.
Echo Springs reserves the right to dismiss a student who is uncooperative, resistant and/or unable to keep agreements.
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here's the letter i just wrote them:
Hello,
My name is Alia Weiner and I attended CEDU in the late 1980s, early 1990s. I am now undergoing extensive therapy to try and uncover my repressed memories of the abuse I suffered at that institution. It has recently come to my attention that your program has some association with the CEDU/Brown Schools.
I want to know if you emulate the CEDU program in any ways: do you use raps, propheets, full-times or tables. Does your philosophy center around shame and humiliation as a form of behavior modification. Please supply me with a thorough compare and contrast of your program and the CEDU program, or if you are too unfamiliar with the CEDU program, please give me a detailed description of the program you do use.
CEDU lied to my parents and my family about me and about their methods, so I do not trust the information that you have put out for parents to read on your website and will be highly suspicious of any information you send me, but be aware that I am compiling a report that I will be bringing to DC to initiate a federal law against any methods that would recreate the kind of trauma I experienced during my time at CEDU. The more cooperative you are the easier it will be for me to distinguish between which programs are and are not abusing the people who attend them.
Thank you,
Alia Weiner
the email i sent it to was:
[email protected]
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Alia,
Good for you. Doug kim Brown was the head master dickface at RMA from i think the late 80's to about 1992-93. He is very familiar with all of it. I can still see his fucked up nose as he is yelling at me in a rap.
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Alia,
Good for you. Doug kim Brown was the head master dickface at RMA from i think the late 80's to about 1992-93. He is very familiar with all of it. I can still see his fucked up nose as he is yelling at me in a rap.
He talked to me about joining the military after RMA. I had a neurological condition [epilepsy].
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and Doug kim Brown runs that school?
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and Doug kim Brown runs that school?
He sure does. Check out the website and look at the faculty page.
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Oh doug doug doug... I remember you, and your stupid little dog... and when you ran my values and I&Me.
I am considering sending him a letter asking him if he is a man or a weasel.
I also noticed that their snail mail addy is a po box on route 1. Let it be known that when I was there, there WERE no PO boxes for route 1. Anything addressed to route 1 went straight to RMA. Then the other schools cropped up and po boxes were added. Interesting that DKB's Echo Springs is using a route 1 PO box when they are apparently in no way affiliated with the CEDU schools.
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Abe.
thanks for pointing the address suspicions. this is exactly how they operate the CEDU/ Brown Schools after already having been railroaded and sued out of existence.
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Abe.
The party you have reached...
Abe... Kim... Brown...
Has fallen off a balcony.
Please leave a message and no one will get back to you.
*beep*
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Phase One
Time Frame: Six to nine months; when students have successfully met the objectives of Phase One, they transition to the next phase.
Tuition/Room/Board ................ $4,500 per month
Petty Cash/Activity Fee ............ $1,800/quarterly
Due upon enrollment:
First and Last Month's Tuition.............$9,000 *
Petty Cash/Activity Fee............................$1,800*
*Non-refundable and not prorated if a student voluntarily leaves the program prior to completion of Phase Two or is expelled.
Echo Springs reserves the right to dismiss a student who is uncooperative, resistant and/or unable to keep agreements.
Ewwwww. This part has me wanting to pull my hair out...
I have no words. Well. Actually I do. Reiterated from a previous post when I first got here.
They should round up all these assholes and put them on a desert island somewhere, like they used to do with lepers.
And maybe I'm missing something, but how on earth do you go bankrupt when you're charging those high as fuck asinine fees and paying your employees peanuts? Is that from all the lawsuits? I bet there are many an offshore bank account. So fucking shady.
Alia...let us know if you get a response. So curious.
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as a former student of echo springs i am here to say that the place deffinetly is not a joke. doug will make your life better if you listen to him. On the subject of the price. i think the price reflects the type of people echo springs targets. if the price shocks you there are cheaper places. i would also like to point out that there are places that are alot more, recovery by the sea being one of them. that place is in malibu by the way.
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Here's a description of the program from Ruralnorthwest.com:
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Ruralnorthwest.com — Boundary News
Posted: Jul 1, 2009 09:12
Echo Springs Transition Study Center Fosters Emerging Adults (http://http://www.ruralnorthwest.com/artman/publish/article_9872.shtml)
By: Kathryn Star Heart
Founded 16 years ago by Doug Kim-Brown, Echo Springs Transition Study Center, located in spectacular Paradise Valley, has found a niche as a transitional living program for young adults ages 18 to 24 years old. After working in adolescent programs for 25 years, Doug realized that there was no program to assist young adults who needed some extra support once they had reached the age of 18.
(http://http://www.ruralnorthwest.com/artman/uploads/echospringstransitionstudycenterweb.jpg)
Unlike other residential programs, Echo Springs is not a therapeutic boarding school nor is it a treatment program. Echo Springs does not "fix" people. Rather, this unique program supports and encourages struggling young adults to develop the life skills tools to continue their lives in a positive, productive manner. Doug defines Echo Springs as an after-care, post placement program that focuses on residential, community living.
"Students come to us because they need a transitional year," said Rhea Verbanic, Administrative Director. "Kids today have grown up in a different world and have a whole lot of problems. Something happened in these kids' lives that derailed them; we just help them get back on track. We focus on collegial, group living.
Students learn self-advocacy skills, how to manage for themselves, self-regulation skills and real life skills. They learn to set limits and boundaries for themselves."
The Echo Springs program is actually a three phase process. First, prospective students arrive at the Center for a three- day interview process to see if the program and the student's individual needs are going to be a good fit. Phase 1 at the Echo Springs campus consists of taking classes to get a GED or finish high school credits, vocational school or college classes, life skills seminars, getting a job in town, doing volunteer work in the community and developing healthy hobbies and interests. The emphasis at this point is on understanding and developing a personal identity as well as establishing common sense rules of living and communicating. Doug said that Phase 1 provides a safe environment for students to find themselves, learn to develop personal goals, a purpose and a direction. At this point, establishing the connection between cause and effect is key for the students.
The Echo Springs staff works diligently to help the students learn to take an extra step in thinking about consequences and options before they make choices.
During Phase 2, students move to Coeur d'Alene in order to attend college, live in an apartment, get a job and begin the process of independent living, while at the same time having the support and guidance of the Echo Springs staff. Following the Echo Springs graduation, the third phase, Phase Out, includes an individually designed program that includes coaching, guidance and support while the student lives independently.
"After having hundreds of students go through our program, students continually say how safe they feel," said Doug. "For the first time in their lives, they feel like they can create relationships that are their own. The small size of the program affords us an emotional intimacy as we enter into positive relationships with the students. They learn that they can be in a relationship that is safe."
Student Daniel Butts, age 21, said, "I came from a wilderness program. Coming out, it was hard to imagine how what I learned there could apply to real life. Echo Springs is the place where I can get real world experience. It's a constant process. It's been good. There are times that were pressured, but I think we all need a little push from time to time."
Doug feels that it is very important for the students to become integrated in the Boundary County community, so community service is an important aspect of the Echo Springs program. The program itself was a major donor to Head Start and gives annually to many causes. Additionally, the students volunteer regularly at the Mt.
Hall Auction, the Festival of Trees, help walk a neighbor's dogs and perform other community service work. Many of the students also hold down jobs in town, which further adds to their community involvement.
"Our students have developed a nice reputation for volunteering in the community," said Doug. "Our students tend to stand out as polite and effective."
Merrill Gannon, age 18, has been a student at Echo Springs for a little over two months. "It's very helpful," she said. "I like it a lot. The people are very nice and understanding. The program has helped me be independent, make decisions, manage my money and my time."
When the students are ready, they also explore the world and learn significant life skills by going on supervised trips to Alaska and Europe.
Doug, Rhea and the other staff members are very proud of the success of the program. Graduates of Echo Springs have gone on to pursue successful college careers that have led them into successful lives as productive, healthy, contributing adults.
"Seeing what happens with these young men and women: the marriages, careers, their own children is so very gratifying," said Doug. "We're just people doing our quiet, little thing. We may not be a big splash, but we've been really solid for a long time."
For more information on Echo Springs Transition Study Center call 208-267-1111 or visit http://www.echosprings.net (http://www.echosprings.net).
© 1999-2009 by Ruralnorthwest.com, Inc.
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Of course, Ruralnorthwest.com, publisher of the above article, is owned by none other than Woodbury Reports. :D
Here's the result of a WhoIs registrant search from Network Solutions:
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ruralnorthwest.com (http://http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/ruralnorthwest.com)
Registrant:
Woodbury Reports Inc
PO Box 1107
Bonners Ferry, Idaho 83805
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (
http://www.godaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com))
Domain Name: RURALNORTHWEST.COM
Created on: 27-Oct-98
Expires on: 25-Oct-11
Last Updated on: 09-Sep-10
Administrative Contact:
[email protected] (http://mailto:[email protected])
Woobury Reports Inc
PO Box 1107
Bonners Ferry, Idaho 83805
United States
2082675550 Fax -- 2082679127[/list]
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.WOODBURYREPORTS.COM
NS2.WOODBURYREPORTS.COM
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http://www.echo-springs.com/main.htm (http://www.echo-springs.com/main.htm)
The above link appears to be no longer active or contains an error. Try either of these two:
http://www.echo-springs.com/home.html (http://www.echo-springs.com/home.html)
http://www.echosprings.net/ (http://www.echosprings.net/)
Related thread:
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Thanks Ursus for sharing these useful links it became s helpful to me