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Fight fight fight
Just push it away
Fight fight fight
Just push until it breaks
Fight fight fight
Don't cry at the pain
Fight fight fight
Or watch yourself burn again
Fight fight fight
Don't howl like a dog
Fight fight
Just fill up the sky
Fight fight fight
Fight til you drop
Fight fight fight
And never never
Never stop

Fight fight fight
Fight fight fight

So when the hurting starts
And when the nightmares begin
Remember you can fill up the sky
You don't have to give in
You don't have to give in

I am starting a new topic.  :smile: How about movies that you have seen recently that you really liked or were moved by? How about those that are related to straight-like topics?

I'll start. I watched Donnie Darko this weekend. I've seen it before, but it had been a while and it was so good. Especially since it's set in the 80's in high school. The music and the whole mood seem so familiar to me. And of course its a sci-fi movie and I love sci-fi.

President Bush today released his '05 National Drug Control Strategy. I was looking at the website for the Office of National Drug Control Policy, and here is what he and the administration have to say about long-term treatment:


Long-Term Residential Treatment provides care 24 hours per day, generally in nonhospital settings. The best-known residential treatment model is the therapeutic community (TC), but residential treatment may also employ other models, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy. TCs are residential programs with planned lengths of stay of 6 to 12 months. TCs focus on the "resocialization" of the individual and use the program's entire "community," including other residents, staff, and the social context, as active components of treatment. Addiction is viewed in the context of an individual's social and psychological deficits, and treatment focuses on developing personal accountability and responsibility and socially productive lives. Treatment is highly structured and can at times be confrontational, with activities designed to help residents examine damaging beliefs, self-concepts, and patterns of behavior and to adopt new, more harmonious and constructive ways to interact with others. Many TCs are quite comprehensive and can include employment training and other support services on site.

Compared with patients in other forms of drug treatment, the typical TC resident has more severe problems, with more co-occurring mental health problems and more criminal involvement. Research shows that TCs can be modified to treat individuals with special needs, including adolescents, women, those with severe mental disorders, and individuals in the criminal justice system.

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/tre ... tment.html


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this morning...

Utopia -- Goldfrapp

It?s a strange day
No colours or shapes
No sound in my head
I forget who i am
When i?m with you
There?s no reason
There?s no sense
I?m not supposed to feel
I forget who i am
I forget
Fascist baby
Utopia, utopia
My dog needs new ears
Make his eyes see forever
Make him live like me
Again and again
I?m wired to the world
That?s how i know everything
I?m super brain
That?s how they made me

Newly Obtained FBI Records Call Defense Department?s Methods "Torture," Express Concerns Over "Cover-Up" That May Leave FBI "Holding the Bag" for Abuses

NEW YORK -- A document released for the first time today by the American Civil Liberties Union suggests that President Bush issued an Executive Order authorizing the use of inhumane interrogation methods against detainees in Iraq. Also released by the ACLU today are a slew of other records including a December 2003 FBI e-mail that characterizes methods used by the Defense Department as "torture" and a June 2004 "Urgent Report" to the Director of the FBI that raises concerns that abuse of detainees is being covered up.
"These documents raise grave questions about where the blame for widespread detainee abuse ultimately rests," said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. "Top government officials can no longer hide from public scrutiny by pointing the finger at a few low-ranking soldiers."
The documents were obtained after the ACLU and other public interest organizations filed a lawsuit against the government for failing to respond to a Freedom of Information Act request.
The two-page e-mail that references an Executive Order states that the President directly authorized interrogation techniques including sleep deprivation, stress positions, the use of military dogs, and "sensory deprivation through the use of hoods, etc." The ACLU is urging the White House to confirm or deny the existence of such an order and immediately to release the order if it exists. The FBI e-mail, which was sent in May 2004 from "On Scene Commander--Baghdad" to a handful of senior FBI officials, notes that the FBI has prohibited its agents from employing the techniques that the President is said to have authorized.
Another e-mail, dated December 2003, describes an incident in which Defense Department interrogators at Guantánamo Bay impersonated FBI agents while using "torture techniques" against a detainee. The e-mail concludes "If this detainee is ever released or his story made public in any way, DOD interrogators will not be held accountable because these torture techniques were done [sic] the ?FBI? interrogators. The FBI will [sic] left holding the bag before the public."
The document also says that no "intelligence of a threat neutralization nature" was garnered by the "FBI" interrogation, and that the FBI?s Criminal Investigation Task Force (CITF) believes that the Defense Department?s actions have destroyed any chance of prosecuting the detainee. The e-mail?s author writes that he or she is documenting the incident "in order to protect the FBI."
"The methods that the Defense Department has adopted are illegal, immoral, and counterproductive," said ACLU staff attorney Jameel Jaffer. "It is astounding that these methods appear to have been adopted as a matter of policy by the highest levels of government."
The June 2004 "Urgent Report" addressed to the FBI Director is heavily redacted. The legible portions of the document appear to describe an account given to the FBI?s Sacramento Field Office by an FBI agent who had "observed numerous physical abuse incidents of Iraqi civilian detainees," including "strangulation, beatings, [and] placement of lit cigarettes into the detainees ear openings." The document states that "[redacted] was providing this account to the FBI based on his knowledge that [redacted] were engaged in a cover-up of these abuses."
The release of these documents follows a federal court order that directed government agencies to comply with a year-old request under the Freedom of Information Act filed by the ACLU, the Center for Constitutional Rights, Physicians for Human Rights, Veterans for Common Sense and Veterans for Peace. The New York Civil Liberties Union is co-counsel in the case.
Other documents released by the ACLU today include:
·       An FBI email regarding DOD personnel impersonating FBI officials during interrogations. The e-mail refers to a "ruse" and notes that "all of those [techniques] used in these scenarios" were approved by the Deputy Secretary of Defense. (Jan. 21, 2004)
·       Another FBI agent?s account of interrogations at Guantánamo in which detainees were shackled hand and foot in a fetal position on the floor. The agent states that the detainees were kept in that position for 18 to 24 hours at a time and most had "urinated or defacated [sic]" on themselves. On one occasion, the agent reports having seen a detainee left in an unventilated, non-air conditioned room at a temperature "probably well over a hundred degrees." The agent notes: "The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his own hair out throughout the night." (Aug. 2, 2004)
·       An e-mail stating that an Army lawyer "worked hard to cwrite [sic] a legal justification for the type of interrogations they (the Army) want to conduct" at Guantánamo Bay. (Dec. 9, 2002)
·       An e-mail noting the initiation of an FBI investigation into the alleged rape of a juvenile male detainee at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. (July 28, 2004)
·       An FBI agent?s account of an interrogation at Guantánamo - an interrogation apparently conducted by Defense Department personnel - in which a detainee was wrapped in an Israeli flag and bombarded with loud music and strobe lights. (July 30, 2004)
The ACLU and its allies are scheduled to go to court again this afternoon, where they will seek an order compelling the CIA to turn over records related to an internal investigation into detainee abuse. Although the ACLU has received more than 9,000 documents from other agencies, the CIA refuses to confirm or deny even the existence of many of the records that the ACLU and other plaintiffs have requested. The CIA is reported to have been involved in abusing detainees in Iraq and at secret CIA detention facilities around the globe.
The lawsuit is being handled by Lawrence Lustberg and Megan Lewis of the New Jersey-based law firm Gibbons, Del Deo, Dolan, Griffinger & Vecchione, P.C. Other attorneys in the case are Jaffer, Amrit Singh and Judy Rabinovitz of the ACLU; Art Eisenberg and Beth Haroules of the NYCLU; and Barbara Olshansky and Jeff Fogel of CCR.
The documents referenced above can be found at: http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/fbi.html.

I've seen this on the news a few times lately, I thought I would post the story:



Wilderness camp may be closed after assaults alleged
 
State moves to revoke license; director cites Strayhorn 'vendetta'


09:00 PM CDT on Thursday, August 26, 2004
 

By ROBERT T. GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News
 


AUSTIN ? The state has moved to shut down and revoke the license of a Bastrop County wilderness camp where two male employees have been accused of sexually assaulting teenage boys.

"Your operation is an immediate threat to the health and safety of children, therefore, you are not to operate," Charlane Bateman, the state's director of residential child-care licensing, wrote to an officer of the Woodside Trails Therapeutic Camp.

Camp director Bebe Gaines, who has attributed its problems to a "political vendetta" by state Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, said Thursday that the facility will fight the Department of Family and Protective Services' attempt to strip it of a license.

"We ... will ask for an administrative review," Ms. Gaines said in a statement. "Regardless of the outcome, I am proud of all the good that we have done for the most difficult of Texas's children."

Jackie Dewayne Reynolds Jr. 36, is accused in the indictments of waking a 13-year-old resident one night last spring and forcing the youth to engage in oral sex.

Robert Carl Meuth, 26, of San Marcos is accused of fondling and performing oral sex on a 15-year-old resident in late 2001.

Both men have posted $50,000 bail.

Woodside Trails, a primitive camp where the state has placed foster boys for two decades, has received numerous citations. In April, Ms. Strayhorn criticized it for mixing foster children with juvenile offenders.

Geoff Wool, spokesman for the Department of Family and Protective Services, said the state didn't act sooner to close the camp because it wasn't until the last three months that tipsters informed a state child-abuse hotline of the assault allegations.

"Basically, it was mounting evidence in a situation that needed to be addressed," Mr. Wool said.

"We had those four allegations that were all serious in nature that came up within a 10-week period."

Mr. Wool said he was referring to, in addition to the allegations of sexual abuse by staff members, two other incidents that a state inspector confirmed July 1 ? a beating by two boys of a third boy, causing head injuries; and a boy's obtaining marijuana from a female staff member's daughter.

Mr. Wool said child-care licensing authorities had to investigate and confirm the allegations before they decided Wednesday to move to revoke Woodside Trails' permit and order that all children be removed by this evening.

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I am now studying counseling, this probably has something to do with my horrible time at straight, I don't know. Whatever the reason, I am now taking this counseling class, a class on drug and addictions. This is pure torture for me as the teacher, not to offend anyone in AA, but he's been in AA for 25 years, and there are enough similarities between AA and straight to make me cringe pretty much every time he mentions it. Moral defects, higher power etc.... Anyways, then last week we watched this movie on tough love, it was like some after school special about how you need to be tough with your kids to get them off of drugs. It was so pathetic! And the kid was only smoking pot and they were acting like his life was ruined. It was really sad. Anyways, tonight we are supposed to watch another film, called Say it Straight. It's supposed to be about adolescent drug treatment centers, I think a very positive take on the whole thing. I have decided...there's no way in hell I can sit through this! I am skipping school tonight for the second time in 3 weeks. I am exhibiting one of the first signs of adolescent drug addiction: skipping school. They better lock me up too.....