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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => EdCons and referring organizations and agencies => PURE Bullshit and CAICA => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 01, 2007, 02:44:38 PM
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CAICA is back up. What's changed?
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Who is on your "Editorial Board" Izzy?
http://www.caica.org/Message_to_parents.htm (http://www.caica.org/Message_to_parents.htm)
Dear Parents:
There is a silently emerging multi-billion dollar a year industry that most people do
not know exists. It is the parent-choice, private-pay Troubled-Teen industry.
Tens of thousands of parents each year are placing their children and teens into
residential programs across the US and around the world without realizing what
they are getting themselves, and most importantly, their child or teen, into.
CAICA has received complaints from parents that their children have been abused
in many of these programs. Some have even had difficulties removing their own
child or teen from a facility, often because of custody issues (please see below).
This is a buyer beware market. There are no Federal laws in place to protect
children who are placed into such programs. There is no governmental oversight.
CAICA recommends the following:
If your child, teen, or family are not in imminent danger CAICA recommends parents
Stop - Take a Breath - and Do Your Research.
CAICA strongly recommends doing everything possible before considering sending
a child or teen away. Many parents have indicated if they knew then what they
know now they would never have sent their child or teen away. There are options,
it is important parents are aware of what those are.
Parent and teen coaching is becoming popular. It is less costly and has proven
beneficial in helping to work through family issues that seemed insurmountable.
Coaching often can have very immediate results and has worked to help keep
many families together who otherwise might have been torn apart. There is a
major cost benefit as well. Sending a child away is extremely costly.
Wrap-around services, too, are becoming increasingly popular and provide a
service to keep children and teens home whenever possible. CAICA suggests
you research to see if one exists in your local area or state.
CAICA recommends seeking local help whenever possible. Also, reach out to
friends and family for advise and help. Parenting is a tough job and there is
no shame in reaching out to those you love and trust for help. As a friend
once said, "It takes a village to raise a child."
For parents who have no other choice but to place their child in a program:
CAICA and the US Department of State warns against parents sending children
and teens to programs outside the country. American laws will not protect your
child if he or she is in another country.
CAICA warns against parents hiring teen transports for the sake of transporting
children to facilities they themselves have not visited and fully investigated.
CAICA warns against hiring transport companies who pick children up in the
middle of the night, taking them from their beds without pre-warning from
parents and without their consent. The effects on a child or teen can be
traumatic and last a lifetime.
Because there are no Federal Guidelines and the laws that are in place to
protect children have often not applied to this industry, and because we have
seen the many accounts of abuse, neglect, an deaths in these facilities,
CAICA cautions parents to explore all viable options prior to placing their child or
teen into such a program, and if their child is in a program, we recommend you
look at the Warning Signs and Questions to Ask. If your gut tells you something
may be wrong, listen. Parents have regretted waiting until it was too late.
It is often anger and frustration that drives parents to look for a program for
their child. There are people who stand to make a lot of money preying on their
desperation. In one case, hundreds of websites lead some parents to the same
umbrella of programs that are part of a 133-plaintiff lawsuit filed in August 2006.
The Complaint speaks for itself.
It is important to remember that the troubled child/teen industry, including
transport companies for children and teens, is virtually unregulated, there are
no Federal laws to protect the children. There is no entity looking out for the
safety and well-being of the children that is not financially tied to this industry.
Parents' responsibility:
It is the parent's responsibility to explore all viable options before deciding to
place a child in a facility away from home for what often has been normal teen
behavior that could be worked through with the help of a good therapist or
coach.
It is also a parent's responsibility to listen to their gut and to listen to their child
- they are not always lying, like the program would like you to believe. They are
not always manipulating. Sometimes there really is something very wrong and
your child or teen, in many instances, has no way to communicate that to you
or anyone else who can help them.
Removing a child from a program: Custody issues:
If you are a parent who is trying to remove a child from a program and are
having difficulties because of custody issues, CAICA recommends you hire a
family law attorney to assist you. We recommend you ask your attorney if
your parental rights have changed based on the program Contract you have
signed. It has been our experience that your rights do not change, but this is
a question for your lawyer. We recommend providing this website to your
attorney for research purposes. Lawyers can reach CAICA's research team
via e-mail at www.ndrn.org (http://www.ndrn.org) and locate the Protection
and Advocacy System (P & A) in your own state. Their services range from
providing information and referrals to legal representation. Each state is different
in what they offer so a call to your own state is your first step to seeing if they
can assist you. Look for "Get Help in Your State" and click on the arrow for a
drop-down menu with a list of states. Choose yours and you will be redirected
to information in your state.
Please note:
CAICA is not a referral service and does not refer children and teens to programs.
CAICA provides resources to parents that can be found on our Links page.
CAICA does not refer families to transport companies for the sake of transporting
a child or teen to a facility.
Sincerely,
CAICA Editorial Board
www.caica.org (http://www.caica.org)
[email protected]
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Isn't Isabelle Zehnder CAICA's founder, President, CEO?
Isabelle Zehnder refers children/parents to programs--she admits she does that.
Isabelle Zehnder's email show she refers to Sue Scheff/PURE and to Sunrise Adolescent Transport.
SO WHAT HAS CHANGED?
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Izzy deleted the BOARD OF DIRECTORS and all those COMMITTEES, right?
Izzy deleted the DISCLAIMER, right?
Is Izzy still linking to Sue Scheff/PURE?
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Wonder why the Positive Family Solutions blog/page is still "parked?"
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Izzy deleted the BOARD OF DIRECTORS and all those COMMITTEES, right?
Izzy deleted the DISCLAIMER, right?
Is Izzy still linking to Sue Scheff/PURE?
http://www.caica.org/Sue_Scheff_October_2006.htm (http://www.caica.org/Sue_Scheff_October_2006.htm)
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Check this out, type CAICA in your google box, and Ironwood school pops up right off the bat
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It also has Caica as a sponsored link, which when you link to that, the page is no longer available. Hmmmm.
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Ironwood pops up when you google scheff and parents universal resource experts.
Saf and Sound Transport can be found on their links page.
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MY MY sounds, seems like ole Izzy just might really be in the referral business, huh? Ironwood, now that sure sounds like a fine, safe school, doesn't it?
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IZZY's Links:
Fparent/Family Resources: first one shown is Scheff/PURE
Lawyers: Scheff's personal lawyers, David Pollack and Richard Henrickson; and of course the Turley law firm.
All this work on the website; expected a new name that possibly included her friend's name.
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Check this out, type CAICA in your google box, and Ironwood school pops up right off the bat
No, Ironwood doesn't come up anywhere on the google hits for CAICA. But this thread does. Why would you want to lie about this?
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I googled "CAICA" and Ironwood showed up at the top in the paid ad section. Don't think anyone was lying.
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Ironwood shows up as a "Sponsored LINK" when Sue Scheff is googled, too. What's the deal with Izzy, Scheff and IRONWOOD?
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Yep, I googled Caica and got this:
1. Troubled Teen Program
ironwoodmaine.com Residential treatment program in Maine. Founded by parents.
2. CAICA
naymz.com Protect yourself and your family against unregulated teen programs
GMAFB!!!!! Nobody is lying here guest - that is what shows up in the top 2 slots.
:flame:
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Nope, it's Mummie, and was just doing some research, so typed in CAICA in my new Google menu, and that's what popped up. Didn't think to type Pure. However, I keep seeing Horizon Family solutions connected somehow to them too.
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Someone else must have googled too to find the disability site, because when you type Horizona Family Solutions and Pure, that site comes right up to the top.
Nice Work.
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Izzy has her NEW disclaimer up now: WHOA.... disclaiming she doesn't refer, has it's own little section now! hmmmmm
Izzy still doesn't have Sue Scheff listed under ADVOCATES on the front page. Wonder why?
Izzy still hasn't posted about the Focal Point Academy Law Suit.
Wonder why?
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http://www.caica.org/ (http://www.caica.org/)
REFERRALS: CAICA is not a referral agency. CAICA does not refer to or promote facilities or transport companies for children or teens. CAICA warns parents that the parent pay / parent choice programs ie. Residential Treatment Centers, Therapeutic Boarding Schools, Behavior Modification Programs, Christian Programs, Positive Peer Culture Programs, etc., are not regulated by the Federal Government and that it is a "Buyer Beware" industry. CAICA provides the following for parents: Message to Parents, Help for Distraught and Desperate Parents, and Questions to Ask and Warning Signs.
CAICA does, however, refer parents to PURE who sells kids off into programs and to transport companies.
Bitch. :flame:
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Sure; she admitted she has done this; why the disclaimer?
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Isabelle can't claim she doesn't refer/use transport companies. Below are portions of two separate emails that I received from her. She DOES refer/use transport services.
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March 5, 2007 email…
When you ask the judge for C to bring D back into this country is there any way we can ask that she be transported, at C's expense, by a transport company of my choosing (I work with these
companies that transport kids in and out of Jamaica)
March 6, 2007 email….
Please pray the court allows our requests - that I choose the transport so C doesn't go get her or doesn't hire some idiots to transport D back here (and there are definitely those out there)
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Wake up Isabelle, just because you have changed your websites, doesn't mean everything disappears. You DID try to get us to use a transport service.
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You go Sandy!
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Can this possibly be Izzy's way of saying she doesn't give credit for materials she just "takes" from other websites and uses without permission?
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IZZY says she uses transport companies that transports kids "INTO JAMACIA"???????? WTF?
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Izzy referred to Sunrise Adolescent Transports, too---she wrote the email; she made the referral.
She can write all the disclaimers she pleases.
She referred to Sunrise Adolescent Transports: a company owned by an ex-WWASP Teen Help employee!
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From: [email protected] (http://mailto:[email protected])
>Subject: Arrangements
>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 19:32:51 +0000
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>Hi Patty,
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>We just got off the phone so you know the person to contact is James.
>His direct number is 435-229-9378. The main number at Sunrise
>Adolescent Transport is 435-673-3202.
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>The person to contact re the programs is Sue at 954-349-7260. She is
>aware of the situation so just let her know I sent you to her. I
>normally don't give out her direct, home phone number but she said OK.
>She has over 7 years experience helping families so I feel confident
>she'll steer us in the right direction, if we need to go that direction.
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>Here's a link to my website regarding coaching in case you want to go
>that
>route: www.positivefamilysolutions.com (http://www.positivefamilysolutions.com). Please let the family know I am
>available to talk with Jason soon after they pick him up from TB. Often
>it is beneficial for me to talk to the child to let them know what is
>happening and why. The kids trust me once they know who I am and what I do.
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>If you would like to help CAICA by making a donation, please go to
>www.caica.org (http://www.caica.org) and click on the Visa/MasterCard Donate button. We'd
>really appreciate it!
>
>Talk to you soon,
H E L L O, Izzy. You do refer to transport company and PURE!
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On the subject of a few posts back.... here's the quote: "It is important to remember that the troubled child/teen industry, including
transport companies for children and teens, is virtually unregulated, there are
no Federal laws to protect the children. There is no entity looking out for the
safety and well-being of the children that is not financially tied to this industry."
Maybe I am misunderstanding that last sentence, and please correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't a GENUINE 501c3 non-profit organization recognized by the IRS be considered an entity? And, if so, if this entity was NOT financially tied to the industry as implied in the context of that statement, would that be or not be an 'actionable' statement? Off the top of my head, I can think of at least one entity that is not financially tied to the industry and that does a great job of 'looking out for the safety and well-being of children placed in harmful/abusive programs. In fact, it is responsible for hundreds of kids being taken OUT of and prevented from being placed in harms way inside these hellholes. Before going too much further, would someone please comment on that above statement? :question: thank you in advance... 8-)
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I can name an entity that is looking out for the welfare of children in this industry...that is saving children from these programs....and saving children from being placed in these programs.....and, THAT IS NOT TIED FINANCIALLY TO THIS INDUSTRY IN ANY MANNER:
ISAC--International Survivors Action Committee
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Since Izzy appears to be distancing herself from Sue Scheff/PURE; who might Izzy be using to refer parents and children for program placement?
Could Izzy possibly be using Scheff's other long-time "friend and colleague" Marie Peart?
What's the status of PSY's promise to close down CAICA by December?