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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: TheWho on August 26, 2008, 07:12:41 PM
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Reference (http://http://woodburyreports.blogspot.com/2007/03/unlicensed-and-unregulated.html)
Schools/programs which have state licensure or JCAHO accreditation, or both.
• Adirondack Leadership Expeditions
Permit from New York Department of Health
• Anasazi Foundation
JCAHO accredited, licensed by Arizona Department of Economic Security and
• Department of Human Services as a Behavioral Healthcare Provider.
• Aspen Achievement Academy
JCAHO accredited, licensed as an Outdoor Treatment Program by the Utah Department of Human Services
• Aspen Ranch
Licensed as a Residential Treatment Center in Utah
• Boulder Creek Academy
Licensed by the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare
• Catherine Freer
JCAHO accredited, licensed as a Mental Health Program and an Alcohol and Drug Abuse
Program by the State of Oregon
• Center for Change
JCAHO accredited
• Chapel Haven
Licensed by Connecticut
• Copper Canyon Academy
Arizona Behavioral Health Services licensed.
• Explorations Home Base
Licensed by Montana as a group home
• Forest Heights Lodge
JCAHO Accredited
• Glenholme School
Licensed by the Connecticut Department of Children and Families
• Gray Wolf Ranch
Licensed through Washington State Department of Health
• Greenwood School
Licensed by the State of Vermont
• Hazelden Center For Youth & Families
Licensed and accredited by JCAHO, and Minnesota Department of Health
• Intermountain
JCAHO and Montana State licensed
• Island View
Licensed by the Utah Division of Licensure and JCAHO
• King George School
Accredited by Vermont Department of Child and Family Services
• The Learning Clinic
Licensed by the State of Connecticut Department of Children & Families
• Logan River Academy
Licensed by the State of Utah Department of Human Services
• Menninger Clinic
JCAHO accredited and licensed by the Texas Department of Health
• Mount Bachelor Academy
Licensed by Oregon Department of Health and Human Services
• New Dominion School of Virginia
Licensed by the Commonwealth of Virginia with Interdepartmental Licensure and Certification
• New Haven Female RTC
Licensed by Utah as a Residential Treatment Center and as an Addiction Treatment Center
• New Leaf Academy
Licensed by the State of Oregon
• Northwest Academy
Licensed as a "Children's Residential Care Facility" in Idaho
• Provo Canyon School
JCAHO accredited, licensed by Utah Department of Human Services
• Remuda Ranch Programs
JCAHO accredited, licensed by the State of Arizona
• Redcliff Ascent
Licensed by the State of Utah
• Riverview School
Licensed by Massachusetts Office of Child Care Services
• Rogers Memorial Hospital
JCAHO accredited, licensed by Wisconsin as Psychiatric Hospital
• San Cristobal Ranch Academy
Licensed in New Mexico as a Pharmaceutical Custodial Care Facility
• Sierra Tucson
JCAHO accredited
• Spring Ridge Academy
Licensed by the Arizona Department of Behavioral Health
• Spruce Mountain Inn
Licensed in Vermont as a Therapeutic Community Residence
• Summit Achievement
Licensed as a Residential Treatment Center in Maine, with Mental Health and Substance
Abuse Treatment certifications
• SUWS Adolescent Program
Licensed in Idaho
• SUWS Youth Program
Licensed in Idaho
• SUWS of the Carolinas
Licensed in North Carolina
• Three Springs of Duck River
Licensed Residential Child Care Facility in Tennessee
• Three Springs - Paint Rock Valley
Licensed as an Outdoor Treatment Center by the Alabama Department of Youth Services
• Valley View School
Licensed as Treatment Facility in Massachusetts
• Villa Santa Maria
Licensed by New Mexico to provide Residential Treatment
• Vista Adolescent Treatment Centers
JCAHO accredited, licensed by the Utah Department of Human Services
• Wilderness Quest
JCAHO accredited, Licensed by the Utah Department of Human Services
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You seem to have forgotten SIBS:
• Straight, Inc. By The Sea
Licensed in Florida
http://fornits.com/SIBS (http://fornits.com/SIBS)
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Who,
You inadvertanty prove our point to anyone who actually pays attention to these things.
So ALE has a permit from the Department of Health, big whoop. Where is their license from the Office of Alcohol and Substance Abuse Services since they claim to treat youth with substance abuse issues? Where is their license from the State Office of Mental Health since they claim to treat youth with mental health issues? Where is their license from the Office of Child and Family Services since they have physical custody over youth for a period of time?
Ditto for FFS, although that's not on your list, since I've seen them claim accreditation by the New York State's Board of Regents (which is valid). I've spoken to the person who oversees their accreditation, and his hands are tied to do anything about abuses that aren't of an "educational" matter. CPS has that responsibility, and as we all know CPS can only handle specific cases of abuse, not systemic abuse.
And by the way this list you provide is a fraction of the private residential programs that exist.
So again your point is?
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So ALE has a permit from the Department of Health, big whoop. Where is their license from the Office of Alcohol and Substance Abuse Services since they claim to treat youth with substance abuse issues? Where is their license from the State Office of Mental Health since they claim to treat youth with mental health issues? Where is their license from the Office of Child and Family Services since they have physical custody over youth for a period of time?
The state that they practice in seems to disagree with you. I would try to contact them for further explanation.
Ditto for FFS, although that's not on your list, since I've seen them claim accreditation by the New York State's Board of Regents (which is valid). I've spoken to the person who oversees their accreditation, and his hands are tied to do anything about abuses that aren't of an "educational" matter. CPS has that responsibility, and as we all know CPS can only handle specific cases of abuse, not systemic abuse.
And by the way this list you provide is a fraction of the private residential programs that exist.
So again your point is?
The list I provided is in no way complete. I initially went back and added the word “Some” to the title to help clarify that the list was a fraction of the schools which are licensed. My apologies for not being clear enough.
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Provo Canyon School
Several individual and class-action lawsuits were filed against the school during the 1980s and 1990s, alleging abuse, violation of students' First Amendment rights, false imprisonment, invasion of privacy, medical negligence, intentional infliction of emotional distress, civil conspiracy, loss of parental consortium, and battery[3]. Some suits were dismissed due to the statute of limitation (four years), but in at least three cases Provo Canyon School was judged to have fraud, medical negligence, false imprisonment, breach of fiduciary duty, and gross negligence (Taylor v. Provo Canyon School), of cruel and unusual punishment, antitherapeutic and inhumane treatment, and denial of due process of law (Milonas and Rice v. Provo Canyon School). Several other suits are pending.[citation needed] A number of former students who consider themselves psychiatric survivors of abuse have organized online support groups.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provo_Canyon_School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provo_Canyon_School)
SUWS of the Carolinas
Two known deaths are recorded:
* Gregory Owen Jones -aged 13. On July 3 - 1985 died of dehydration. Due to heat wave in the area the first two waterholes were empty and Mr. Jones collapsed and died on the way to waterhole a third waterhole.
* Rocco Magliozzi - aged 12 died July 2006 when he contracted the West Nile Virus. The program sent Rocco to the doctor, who cleared him to return to the desert. When he was taken to the doctor a second time, he never returned to the desert and passed away in the hospital [4]
http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/for ... x.php/SUWS (http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/fornitswiki/index.php/SUWS)
TheWho wants parents to trust a list that includes programs proven to be abusive in a court of law. He is attempting to trick parents into sending their kid to a program that killed a twelve and thirteen year old child. How many more programs on this list are abusive? I only had time to research a couple, but obviously the entire list is tainted.
Before parents trust "TheWho" - visit this site: http://teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/INMEMORIAM.html (http://teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/INMEMORIAM.html)
Think about how that many children can be killed in "treatment", and why nothing has been done about it.
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I just picked another random one from the list to research, and guess what I found - more unnecessary deaths of children.
Catherine Freer
JCAHO accredited, licensed as a Mental Health Program and an Alcohol and Drug Abuse
May 27, 2002 a 15 year old girl (Erica Harvey) died during a hike. Another girl - 15 years of age - died October 20 the same year.
March 26, 2003 a tree crushed the skull of 16 year old Corey Baines from Santa Rosa.
In 2005 18 year old Chase W. Bickell was seriously injured.
http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/US/Cfreer.htm (http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/US/Cfreer.htm)
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I had pulled this list together awhile ago and should help answer your questions about deaths in programs versus leaving them in institutionally run public schools.
As a parent, I found all this a little difficult to sort out, so I organized the data to include just those children who attended Wilderness and TBS, for those parents who are interested in looking at those distinct areas.
July 1, 2000 thru June 2001 Children 8-18 years of age.
Public Sector: -------There were 1,466 Homicides and 1,493 suicides , 2,959 Total (NCES, CDC)
Therapeutic Industry:
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total
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July 1, 2001 thru June 2002 Children 8-18 years of age.
Public Sector: -------There were 1,468 Homicides and 1,400 suicides , 2,868 Total (NCES, CDC)
Therapeutic Industry:
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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July 1, 2002 thru June 2003 Children 8-18 years of age.
Public Sector: -------There were 1,515 Homicides and 1,331 suicides , 2,846 Total (NCES, CDC)
Therapeutic Industry:
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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July 1, 2003 thru June 2004 Children 8-18 years of age.
Public Sector: -------There were 1,437 Homicides and 1,285 suicides , 2,722 Total (NCES, CDC)
Therapeutic Industry:
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
TBS - Therapeutic Boarding Schools
NCES National Center for Education Statistics
CDC -- Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
* - Data found here on fornits, internet news articles (caica.org, isaccorp.org), posts and PM?s.... All deaths are verified thru local news articles.
X -- Incomplete or unavailable
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Mommy, PLEASE make it stop!!! No! Not your fucking tables again!!!! Please, anything but that.
You are such a tool. You keep posting this shit like it means something. You're cherry picked "stats" and manipulation of facts (a lot of these places are "accredited" by agencies that don't really do anything but collect dues) are about as useless as you are.
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Picked another random program from the list - big surprise - more unnecessary deaths of children.
• Aspen Achievement Academy
JCAHO accredited, licensed as an Outdoor Treatment Program by the Utah Department of Human Services
• Aspen Ranch
Licensed as a Residential Treatment Center in Utah
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On June 27, Brendan Blum of California was suffering bowel and stomach problems. He had been vomiting and suffering from diarrhea all night, said Draper Police Sgt. Gerry Allred. Rather than contacting the on-call nurse as the facility's policy dictates, the boy was simply given some medicine and put in a separate room away from the rest of the boys, he said. The next morning, the boy, who was listed as a disabled child because he had Asperger's syndrome, was found dead on his mattress.
"There was no really good reason why they didn't take him ... no explanation except they just thought it was an upset stomach," Allred said.
An autopsy determined the boy had an obstructed bowel that deteriorated as the night went on, Allred said. The on-call nurse, who was later interviewed by police, said if she had been called to look at the boy she would have advised he immediately go to the hospital, he said.
The Utah State Medical Examiner concurred, "if medical intervention had been obtained, (the boy's) death would have been preventable," according to court documents.
The boy's mother, Dana Blum, said she is appalled that workers at the facility didn't take him to an emergency room. Any time a child dies while in the care of a licensed facility, the facility should be shut down immediately, she said.
Blum has filed a complaint with the Utah licensing board and is waiting for the investigation to be completed.
She hopes the individuals who operated the facility will be held accountable along with the workers.
"I don't wish them any ill, I would just like to see justice done for my son," she said.
The facility issued a statement shortly after the boy's death saying it was the result of a "medical condition." The group home is operated by Aspen Education Group, based in Cerritos, Calif. It is a division of the CRC Health Group, which runs boarding schools, outdoor education programs and weight-loss camps.
Ironically, the charges came one day after the Government Accountability Office in Washington, D.C., found thousands of abuse allegations at camps and other private treatment facilities around the country.
Blum hopes the national attention will result in stricter standards and more accountability across the board.
Brendan was placed in the facility following treatment at a California hospital. Blum said she researched Youth Care Inc. extensively before sending her son there.
"This is double-edged sword for me," she said. "I am not a deadbeat mom."
http://teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/BrendanBlum.html (http://teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/BrendanBlum.html)
RIP :'(
Brendan James Blum
August 7, 1992 – June 28, 2007
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Great (NOT) to see Who back in action presenting his questionable research methodologies-(same tactics used by programs when they present their "success rates" to parents) This is so much more productive than the vicious trolling of parents and survivors Who was up to in the past several weeks under multiple anon personas.
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Mommy, PLEASE make it stop!!! No! Not your fucking tables again!!!! Please, anything but that.
You are such a tool. You keep posting this shit like it means something. You're cherry picked "stats" and manipulation of facts (a lot of these places are "accredited" by agencies that don't really do anything but collect dues) are about as useless as you are.
Who cares who they are accredited by. People cry all over this forum about programs not being licensed. I supplied a list of schools which are licensed and like clockwork we get a list of kids who died in them. So we can can conclude that licensing doesnt really impact people views of programs? does licensing save lives? Or can we supply lists of kids who died in the public school system? Boy scout camping trips? Choir practice? Football practice? What is the point?
Do we want people to believe if they send their kid to a TBS they will die? or show them the truth that they are safer in a TBS or wilderness program (which I have done).
If I posted a name of a kid that died in Harvard or MIT would we expect all the parents to go "Oh My" I dont want my kid going there!! Parents know kids die everywhere. The challenge is to keep your child as safe as possible.
Finally, If you believe they are cherry picked then supply me with a name that I missed. I will add it on for you. All my information came from the same websites that yours did. The numbers also coincide with the NCES.
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Damn! TheWho is even more cold blooded than I thought. I just feel sorry for him, what a misguided & disturbed individual. But more than I feel sorry him.. I feel sorry for his daughter.. if she even exists. What if your parent came on a web forum (everyday for years) for survivors of institutional abuse and desperately created lists of programs he claims are safe, but actually are guilty (proven in court) of abuse & murder of children?
If I found out my dad was acting this way- this is how I would react ------> ::puke::
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Even worst some people are falling hook, line, and sinker for the Who's crap.
Keep posting the articles though.. That is probably the best rebuttal ever.
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Who cares who they are accredited by. People cry all over this forum about programs not being licensed. I supplied a list of schools which are licensed and like clockwork we get a list of kids who died in them. So we can can conclude that licensing doesnt really impact people views of programs? does licensing save lives? Or can we supply lists of kids who died in the public school system? Boy scout camping trips? Choir practice? Football practice? What is the point?
This is your argument? Seriously, you must have forgotten your coffee this morning or something.
Licensing doesn't necessarily prevent deaths, but it sure as hell makes it more likely that someone will be held accountable for those deaths, and most importantly taken out of the system so they can never be put in the position of being able to do it again.
The troubled teen industry lives on the belief that teenagers are manipulators and liars, and when you look at the history of deaths that's the common thread. They could have all been prevented except that the youth was thought to be manipulating. Sure kids die in boy scout camping trips (getting caught in a flood, poisonous snake bites, forest fires), sure kids die in football camp (dehydration, heat stroke). But those kids don't die because their football coach or scout leader dismisses the youth's complaints of having a life-threatening condition because they think the kid is manipulating them.
You are comparing apples to oranges here. We have real deaths based on a pattern reported by the GAO. Now unless you can show examples of a program that was licensed, that was allowed to be manipulated and that the manipulation directly resulted in death, you have no argument. Kids die, the program blames the kid or the kid's family, and the staff stay in place until the next incident occurs.
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Awww c'mon man.
The who was on his 8th pot of French roasted kool aid by 8am this morning.
He's got it right.
There's nothing wrong with a little program collateral damage.
You gots to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
I mean look at all those well healed, pearly white smiling program parents during the parent seminars! That's all the science you need.
It's just like White house 'side puss" (aka intern-tail). The public doesn't need to know about any unethical activities! It's none of their business, it's not relevant to the big picture and it pales in comparison to the "greater good' being done.
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Licensing doesn't necessarily prevent deaths, but it sure as hell makes it more likely that someone will be held accountable for those deaths, and most importantly taken out of the system so they can never be put in the position of being able to do it again.
Exactly, It doesn’t prevent deaths but will identify those places which have a higher incidence of death and hold them accountable. The above list merely showed a few programs which were licensed. I never made the connection to death rates.
The troubled teen industry lives on the belief that teenagers are manipulators and liars, and when you look at the history of deaths that's the common thread. They could have all been prevented except that the youth was thought to be manipulating. Sure kids die in boy scout camping trips (getting caught in a flood, poisonous snake bites, forest fires), sure kids die in football camp (dehydration, heat stroke). But those kids don't die because their football coach or scout leader dismisses the youth's complaints of having a life-threatening condition because they think the kid is manipulating them.
Yes kids do die because their coach didn’t listen to them or they had to do one more lap around the track as punishment and the coach didn’t know the kid had an enlarged heart etc. Kids are viewed as manipulators and liars in the public school system also. Thats why many of them get frustrated and just drop out.
You are comparing apples to oranges here. We have real deaths based on a pattern reported by the GAO. Now unless you can show examples of a program that was licensed, that was allowed to be manipulated and that the manipulation directly resulted in death, you have no argument. Kids die, the program blames the kid or the kid's family, and the staff stay in place until the next incident occurs
Sorry I dont agree. Lets wait for the GAO report if you like. If they conclude that all RTC’s and TBS’s are inherently abusive and should be shut down then I will concur with your conclusion. I believe what you will find is a recommendation for oversight thru regulation and if you track the death rate throught this period you will either see no change or a slight increase due to the general increase or expansion of the industry. But the rate of death will still remain lower than the public sector.
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Whence comes the desperation?
My guess is that Aspen is very, very downstat- and watching Fornits bleed away even more potential victims is starting to really grate. What do you do when you're a PR flack on a forum full of people who hate you, but your company has taken a dive and you have to post anyway?
Well, he has to post anyway. So he posts.
But he doesn't have anything of substance to post, so we get this.
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Have there been media reports of the Aspen Group on the financial decline?
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The only hope left is for Obama to get into office and champion the national healthcare bill which will put salary caps on all the Doctors and specialists. This will force the better professionals to leave mainstream medicine for private practice and programs will be able to acquire better services at a reduced cost which will be a win for the programs and a win for the patients in private care.
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The only hope left is for Obama to get into office and champion the national healthcare bill which will put salary caps on all the Doctors and specialists. This will force the better professionals to leave mainstream medicine for private practice and programs will be able to acquire better services at a reduced cost which will be a win for the programs and a win for the patients in private care.
This is so laughably uninformed I'm not even sure where to start.
The programs have the money to hire real professionals already- they just don't do it. This is because most real professionals immediately become outraged and would almost certainly report the program's methods to the authorities. That and the cash is going up somebody's nose.
A win for the programs is a win for no one else.
Furthermore, if Obama DOES get into office, Congress will almost certainly pass a regulatory bill guaranteed to cripple the entire industry- given the choice between "adhere to sane standards of practice or die", most programs will die, and the ones that don't will be hiding from the regulators.
Unless it becomes a civil rights issue (which it should have been from the start), in which case it's game over, pack up your stuff, we're done here.
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The programs have the money to hire real professionals already- they just don't do it. This is because most real professionals immediately become outraged and would almost certainly report the program's methods to the authorities. That and the cash is going up somebody's nose.
Money is not the issue. All decisions are based on need. Many people could afford a full time person to cut the lawn but it makes better financial sense to have someone come in once a week to mow it. At ASR they scheduled the therapists for certain days of the week. They didn’t have a need for a staff position. I am sure if and when the program expands it may make financial sense to bring one on-board full time.
Sounds like you must have had a bad experience. Present practice shows that professionals are more than eager to participate in helping these children and stay on year after year because they find their work rewarding.
A win for the programs is a win for no one else.
Except the kids and their parents
Furthermore, if Obama DOES get into office, Congress will almost certainly pass a regulatory bill guaranteed to cripple the entire industry- given the choice between "adhere to sane standards of practice or die", most programs will die, and the ones that don't will be hiding from the regulators.
When regulation comes it will be designed to strengthen the industry not destroy it. When they look at the hard numbers they will see the Auto industry, Public school system and drug industry is responsible for more abuse and death than the TTI. The TTI industry is orders of magnitude safer than the other three. Many of the public sectors may be adopting the practices of the TTI industry as a model for improvement.
Unless it becomes a civil rights issue (which it should have been from the start), in which case it's game over, pack up your stuff, we're done here.
Not sure what you mean. I think parents have the right to choose how to bring up their kids as it is. I don’t think there are any civil rights issues except that parents are forced to educate their child. But even within this restriction they are free to choose homeschooling, public, boarding school or private education etc. So there is a large degree of freedom there to work with.
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Wow.
You just got superwho'd.
If after reading that you don't feel like someone forced you to huff 3 gallons of laquer thinner and spun you in a cultic centrifuge at warp 5 ... then you need your head examined.
Cuz you just got superwhoed.
vehicles, teens, fanbelts, part time carnival shrinks, sparkplugs, blah blah blah blah blah
you've been whoed.
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Huuuuuuuuuuuaaaaggghhhh!!!
Humita humita...
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Oh, gosh, yes, let's have this discussion for the umpteenth time.
JCAHO accreditation is one of my favorite topics. Let's do have a look-see at a few programs for their JCAHO accreditation.
You can look up any program at http://http://www.jointcommission.com
Here's the search screen by facility.
http://http://www.qualitycheck.org/consumer/searchQCR.aspx
Once you get to the report screen, down by the check boxes, look for "See Detail" next to the "2006 National Patient Safety Goals." Click on that.
Ooo, Catherine Freer gets a Gold Seal, and there's a pretty logo. So does Aspen Achievement Academy.
Here's what JCAHO says about their accreditation. About their Safety Goals. Okey dokey, then, hands are washed, and staff agrees on abbreviations and acronyms!
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Quality Report
Behavioral Health Care Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy Expeditions
Org ID: 288352
2006 Safety Goals Organizations Should Implement
1. Improve the accuracy of client identification. Use at least two client identifiers (neither to be the room number) whenever administering medications or blood products; taking blood samples and other specimens for clinical testing, or providing any other procedures.
2. Improve the effectiveness of communication among caregivers. For verbal or telephone orders or for telephonic reporting of critical test results, verify the complete order or test result by having the person receiving the order or test result "read-back" the complete order or test result.
Standardize a list of abbreviations, acronyms and symbols that are not to be used throughout the organization.
Measure, assess and, if appropriate, take action to improve the timeliness of reporting, and the timeliness of receipt by the responsible licensed caregiver, of critical test results and values. Implement a standardized approach to "hand off" communications, including an opportunity to ask and respond to questions.
3. Improve the safety of using medications. Standardize and limit the number of drug concentrations available in the organization. Identify and, at a minimum, annually review a list of look-alike/sound-alike drugs used in the organization, and take action to prevent errors involving the interchange of these drugs.
4. Reduce the risk of health care-associated infections. Comply with current Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) hand hygiene guidelines when providing services to a high-risk population, or administering physical care. Manage as sentinel events all identified cases of unanticipated death or major permanent loss of function associated with a health care-associated infection.
5. Accurately and completely reconcile medications across the continuum of care. Implement a process for obtaining and documenting a complete list of the client's current medications upon the client's entry to the organization and with the involvement of the client. This process includes a comparison of the medications the organization provides to those on the list.
6. A complete list of the client's medications is communicated to the next provider of service when a client is referred or transferred to another setting, service, practitioner or level of care within or outside the organization.
Auntie Em
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Oh, gosh, yes, let's have this discussion for the umpteenth time.
I sense your frustration, I know, it does seem tedious at times and some people get really angry when information is repeated or the same conversation/debate is held over and over again (I have had my share of the wrath). But I believe it is important to keep reposting information and rehashing old discussions because there are new readers which come to fornits every day who have not had the benefit of reading as we have.
It is important that all viewpoints be heard and posted here so that the readers can make an informed decision. Unless fornits is having capacity issues I say keep reposting your view point!! Don’t get frustrated because you may just connect with the right reader and help them make an informed decision.
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Awww c'mon man.
The who was on his 8th pot of French roasted kool aid by 8am this morning.
He's got it right.
There's nothing wrong with a little program collateral damage.
You gots to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
I mean look at all those well healed, pearly white smiling program parents during the parent seminars! That's all the science you need.
It's just like White house 'side puss" (aka intern-tail). The public doesn't need to know about any unethical activities! It's none of their business, it's not relevant to the big picture and it pales in comparison to the "greater good' being done.
:D :D The tongue is wedged deep in cheek...
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tedious
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The Who wrote:
I sense your frustration, I know, it does seem tedious at times and some people get really angry when information is repeated or the same conversation/debate is held over and over again (I have had my share of the wrath). But I believe it is important to keep reposting information and rehashing old discussions because there are new readers which come to fornits every day who have not had the benefit of reading as we have.
I'm sorry you failed to understand my post. What I am frustrated with is repeated claims that licensing and accreditation is meaningful when in so many specific instances it is meaningless. I agree we do need to keep debunking these claims for new visitors.
Auntie Em
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The threads TheWho is currently trolling are at the top of the fold. Looks like things are back to normal. :sue:
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my friend's 16 year old niece had been at island view in utah for the last 8 months, came home for a 4 day homevisit and took off. and is nowhere to be found. i just heard about this, and her incarceration, and was immediately suspicious. I had a feeling it would show up here on fornits.
does anyone know anything about this school? their website's the usual blah blah blah.
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The Who,
I wish you would not take a great rock band's name in vain. Now on to other subjects. I was in a JCAHO facility and it meant squat! I saw more abuse there than I did in all of my years of social work, so put that wherever you care to preferably an orifice many of us have had searched at our "so-called" accredited facilities. Don't tell me I deserved to get searched either. I was put there for something not even in the DSM (look that up if you don't know what it is). Looking at a JCAHO report is less informative than the information you can find when placing your loved one in a nursing home. So don't try to convince anyone that JCAHO accreditation means abuse won't happen. The kids don't bring this on. I saw abuse happen for non-violent actions that did not warrant restraints for 30 days, at which point your muscles have atrophied and you cannot walk, to speak of the bladder infection you have from holding in urine too long so you don't have to use a bedpan. You are a total A__.
Sincerely,
You don't know who.
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my friend's 16 year old niece had been at island view in utah for the last 8 months, came home for a 4 day homevisit and took off. and is nowhere to be found. i just heard about this, and her incarceration, and was immediately suspicious. I had a feeling it would show up here on fornits.
does anyone know anything about this school? their website's the usual blah blah blah.
She is not the only one according to our datasheet (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Island_view). She can be saved. At least she hasn't attended a neck tie party like the poor boy back in 2004.
Emily Graeber (http://http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=90990cac-740d-4826-b3e8-fa216ac5e9ee) disappeared in 2007 but was found safe. Rumors tell about a cold harted family that didn't care and jailed her once more.
Your friends daugther can be safe if the parents insert an add in a local newspaper and promise her to let her stay at home and keep the promise.
In a nearby town called Frederikssund the authorities was tired of small youth crimes committed by a growing group of teenagers. They curbed the problem by letting the youth have some mentors they can trust. They still drink and in fact the police have given the sausages and saw to that the places where the youth can have bonfire had fresh supply of wood to burn.
Suddenly there were adults who was paid to listen to them and they ate something beside the alcohol so they did become so drunk. The results have meant that the model for this team of people gathered from the social services, clubs and police are being copied all over the country.
They still fight the police - on the soccer field. Here is a link to a danish article (http://http://www.frederikssundavis.dk/article/20080829/ARTIKLER/117922130/1024/i). Copypaste it into google translate and read in English.
This girl need to come home and all parents need to change their community instead of abandon those who dont look like the perfect stepford son or daugther.
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The Who,
I wish you would not take a great rock band's name in vain.
No never would, TheWho, is one of my favorites. Saw them live 3 times. The best was their Quadraphenia tour.
Now on to other subjects. I was in a JCAHO facility and it meant squat! I saw more abuse there than I did in all of my years of social work, so put that wherever you care to preferably an orifice many of us have had searched at our "so-called" accredited facilities.
Accreditation doesn’t protect kids from everything. Look at the visibility, all the feedback systems checks and balances the our public school system has and our kids are still dying, getting raped by teachers and shot in the class room etc. Licensing and accreditation brings it up a level but cannot insure your kid is 100% safe.
Don't tell me I deserved to get searched either.
I don’t even know who you are, how could I?
I was put there for something not even in the DSM (look that up if you don't know what it is).
You are not alone, many kids are. I don’t think that TBS’s or wilderness are confined to having a diagnoses from the DSM. I may be wrong, though
Looking at a JCAHO report is less informative than the information you can find when placing your loved one in a nursing home. So don't try to convince anyone that JCAHO accreditation means abuse won't happen.
Like I mentioned above. There isn’t anyway that abuse can be prevented 100% that I am aware of, in the public or private sector or even in church!!
The kids don't bring this on.
I am sure they play a part.
I saw abuse happen for non-violent actions that did not warrant restraints for 30 days, at which point your muscles have atrophied and you cannot walk, to speak of the bladder infection you have from holding in urine too long so you don't have to use a bedpan.
This is why we need to have a system put in place which provides closer oversight then what we presently have.
You are a total A__.
Wow, all I did was provide a list of some licensed and accredited facilities. Cant imagine what you would think if I provided a list of unlicensed programs!!
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