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Yeah, I can vouch for the sick and violent mentality of the SAFE parents group I witnessed one of the male parents expose himself and threaten to urinate on a female fellow protestors and I was personally knocked on my ass (which I still experience a rather painful cervical herniated disc from). I put nothing past those people but I sure wish I could press charges on that S.O.B. who fucked my neck up and/or SAFE. I am scared of them but I will NEVER stop protesting the abuse at places like SAFE.

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If you, a loved one, or a friend are or were involved with an abusive treatment center, therapeutic community, coercive behavior modification facility or the like, you are not alone and there is non-threatening, non-abusive help. Don't spend another minute in your solitary hell. Escape and call me (941)752-4456

[ This Message was edited by: doc2714 on 2002-12-29 13:14 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Shit List Manifesto
« on: December 29, 2002, 03:31:00 PM »
::drummer::

Hi, I'm Dave English"DOC" just let me know how I can help in our common goal.

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If you, a loved one, or a friend are or were involved with an abusive treatment center, therapeutic community, coercive behavior modification facility or the like, you are not alone and there is non-threatening, non-abusive help. Don't spend another minute in your solitary hell. Feel free to call me at(941)752-4456 or e-mail at [email protected] anytime to help you get out of the abusive center your unwillingly involved in. Even if you are under court order we can arrange an alternative which is humane but the most important thing right now is to get away and get to a phone or a computer and contact me. As always this is a FREE service funded solely by private donations, so you have nothing to lose and the whole world to gain.

[ This Message was edited by: doc2714 on 2002-12-29 12:51 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / straight
« on: September 02, 2001, 12:31:02 AM »
Hell on Earth...Straight, Inc.
My name is Dave "Doc" English, I was at Cincinatti Straight,Inc. from 1982 to 1984. I don't know if I needed the program I surely empathize with my parents plight. Their baby was using drugs, skipping school and getting arrested. I believe to this day that my folks did the best they could with me. They were afraid that I was going to die or worse yet, kill somebody else in an intoxicated stupor. Most of all, I think, they were afraid that I didn't love them anymore. Being a parent myself now I can understand this nurturing instinct. The good people at Straight recognized this instinct as well and in fact took stock in this instinct  and by manipulation and misinterpretation of the facts obtained at intake my parents were advised that my very life depended upon the program. They were also misinformed of the true success rate of the program, my folks were told Straight had an 80%+ recidivism rate. That sounds pretty fantastic when your family is being torn apart. I was sat on by five guys my size or better for close to three hours once and for shorter duration innumerable other occasions. I thought I was going to asphyxiate being an asthmatic. I sustained permanent injury to my right shoulder and cervical spine as the result of being forced to look at the person talking, being "restrained", or being coerced into restraining others. Not to mention the mental anguish of being called a "fuck up" for almost two years straight or being constantly reminded that I am a "piece of shit". The Staff did things there to emphasise these beliefs, not only upon the clients but also the parents, they were being brainwashed too.Those things bother me to this day almost 20 years later. I had to fight for my mind. I awake every morning with the same gut-wrenching sense of dread I felt after about six months in group. I can rarely leave home today for fear of the earth shaking anxiety attacks I have experienced since the day I was kicked out. Yes, thats right, kicked out of Straight. I am the only one I can recall departing in that manner. Straight and my experiences there left me socially and developmentally deprived. My folks wouldn't let me talk bad about the program until about the last five years of my fathers life. He died suddenly of a heart attack about this time last year. Thank God we got to talk openly about that place before he died. We could finally SHARE, something the program always told us to do, share (but not about the group). The group was the problem we were never able to talk about.

I want all reading this post to think twice about sending your problems to rehab, you may end up with a whole lifetime more. If you are involved with an abusive program and are tired of suffering in your solitary hell, please feel free to call me at (941)761-3153 or e-mail me if you need help getting out or if you need to talk about your experiences there. Until then...

                        Love Ya!

                          DOC


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Live at Last...
« on: November 01, 2001, 11:43:22 PM »
Re: Live at Last...
Also,

at the site mentioned in the above post they dont bleep out the profanity like they do here, and of course it is NEVER censored in any way. We were censored too long at straight!

DOC


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Live at Last...
« on: November 01, 2001, 11:36:34 PM »
Re: Live at Last...
Jason, glad you found this site. I can definitely relate to the constant fighting. I was at Cincy Straight 2+ years between cop-outs and was on first phase for about two years. Copped out twice and was finally KICKED out by Dave Crock (Exec.Staff) for causing a riot of misbehavers. Since Straight I have had several prison stays with the Indiana Dept. of Corrections and numerous mental hospital visits, but somehow I have stuffed it all down for about ten years now and stayed out of trouble. However, it is starting to unravel now (since I found; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Straight_Inc_Alumni)'>groups.yahoo.com/group/St...nc_Alumni) all the rage is right there inside still after almost 17 years. I snapped today and got into a knock down drag out fight with some guy I didnt even know! I make it a point NEVER to fight, in fact, I haven't physically fought since Straight...except today. Do you know the rage I am talking about man? That link I mentioned above has helped me to realize that it wasn't me that thought the program was criminally WRONG in the way they treated all of us. And its not just the "losers", cop-outs, pull offs, etc., many there are graduates and some were on various levels of staff, but for the most part we all agree that Straight was hell. A guy I met at that site I.M.ed me about you (I don't come here too often) and thinks you might be able to help me deal with the @#%$ I am going through right now. I would like to say that it is in no way a Pro-Straight site, in fact I can think of nobody there (at least not posting) who is Pro-Straight. I would like to send a warm invite to you and anyone in the future who may read this, to come, sign up, and get involved...No matter WHAT your point of view is. Yeah, that is the ONLY bad thing about it in my opinion, you gotta sign up! The only requirement for membership is that you be a former client of Straight, Inc.(any branch). I would love to meet some more former Straightlings! Until next time,

LoveYa!

DOC

If you are a parent of a kid which you are considering placing in a coercive behavior modification center or a kid in such a place, please don't spend another day in your solitary hell. Call me at (941)761-3153 lets talk, we can discuss the consequences and the alternatives to such a program.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Live at Last...
« on: November 01, 2001, 11:43:22 PM »
Re: Live at Last...
Also,

at the site mentioned in the above post they dont bleep out the profanity like they do here, and of course it is NEVER censored in any way. We were censored too long at straight!

DOC


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Live at Last...
« on: November 01, 2001, 11:36:34 PM »
Re: Live at Last...
Jason, glad you found this site. I can definitely relate to the constant fighting. I was at Cincy Straight 2+ years between cop-outs and was on first phase for about two years. Copped out twice and was finally KICKED out by Dave Crock (Exec.Staff) for causing a riot of misbehavers. Since Straight I have had several prison stays with the Indiana Dept. of Corrections and numerous mental hospital visits, but somehow I have stuffed it all down for about ten years now and stayed out of trouble. However, it is starting to unravel now (since I found; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Straight_Inc_Alumni)'>groups.yahoo.com/group/St...nc_Alumni) all the rage is right there inside still after almost 17 years. I snapped today and got into a knock down drag out fight with some guy I didnt even know! I make it a point NEVER to fight, in fact, I haven't physically fought since Straight...except today. Do you know the rage I am talking about man? That link I mentioned above has helped me to realize that it wasn't me that thought the program was criminally WRONG in the way they treated all of us. And its not just the "losers", cop-outs, pull offs, etc., many there are graduates and some were on various levels of staff, but for the most part we all agree that Straight was hell. A guy I met at that site I.M.ed me about you (I don't come here too often) and thinks you might be able to help me deal with the @#%$ I am going through right now. I would like to say that it is in no way a Pro-Straight site, in fact I can think of nobody there (at least not posting) who is Pro-Straight. I would like to send a warm invite to you and anyone in the future who may read this, to come, sign up, and get involved...No matter WHAT your point of view is. Yeah, that is the ONLY bad thing about it in my opinion, you gotta sign up! The only requirement for membership is that you be a former client of Straight, Inc.(any branch). I would love to meet some more former Straightlings! Until next time,

LoveYa!

DOC

If you are a parent of a kid which you are considering placing in a coercive behavior modification center or a kid in such a place, please don't spend another day in your solitary hell. Call me at (941)761-3153 lets talk, we can discuss the consequences and the alternatives to such a program.


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