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Vision Quest / Re: VQ information and their website
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:34:53 PM »
Quote from: "The Elan Reporter"
I heard from a little birdie that some old VQ staff had a unpleasant run in with a certain some bodies at a certain time. Are you a former or worse yet current VQ staff?? You should repent and apologize to your victums. You never know when a nightmare can turn into reality!

Sorry, my text got deleted.

Yes, if you have ever been a staffer then you do need to repent and ask for forgiveness for your part in such abuse!  Whether you actively engaged in the torture or you just stood by and did nothing.

From late 1983-1985 I spent 15 months in VQ (12 months in Wilderness Camp East, 2 months on the East Coast/Fox Trail Wagon Train, and a month at Pathfinders Wilderness Camp) and the reason I spent so long at WCE was due to the unending torture and torment afflicted upon me!  I had two knee surgeries (from two separate "confrontations"), a concussion which led to hospitalization, tendons in both wrists torn, both front teeth knocked out, the capilliaries in my forehead burst from aphyxiation, and countless bruises, contusions, abrasions, etc.  And that isnt even going into the pure emotional and mental torment each day!  I was used to that sort of abuse and much worse though so I could just shut down when they came at me...

I thank God that He has put professional caring therapists in my life to help me truly heal from all of my traumas.  But to think that I and how many others suffered at the hands of these staffers?? And in the name of "rehab or therapy"?  It is a travesty and someone should have been accountable!  Pure shamefulness ... pure evil!  Blessings to all of you survivors out there - and for those staffers who have come forward and admitted and repented of their crimes.  Thanks for letting me vent.  wanda

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Vision Quest / Re: VQ information and their website
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:26:38 PM »
Quote from: "The Elan Reporter"
I heard from a little birdie that some old VQ staff had a unpleasant run in with a certain some bodies at a certain time. Are you a former or worse yet current VQ staff?? You should repent and apologize to your victums. You never know when a nightmare can turn into reality!

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Not sure why I am even doing this - it has been so long...but here goes

General information:
Name:  Wanda (Toney) Short
Address for check-in facility:  I was sentenced in 1984 in Montgomery Co. PA to VisionQuest
Year established
Number of detainees in each group: I think maybe 12...but I was in the COA for much of my "stay"
Gender, coed or unisex: Coed...one girl's teepee and three boy's teepees
Program duration: I was sentenced originally to 9 months (3 in wilderness, 3 on wagon train, 3 in residential home) but it ended up being 11 months at WCE (wilderness camp east in Franklin, PA) and 2 months on the FoxTrail train...13 months in all because I was a "non conformist" and had so many injuries that included orthopedic surgery (two) that I was trapped in WCE.
Owner: who knows...Bob somebody

Program structure: Supposed to be a three month wilderness stint then promote to the wagon train, do a 2 week quest, then to a half way type house residential program to reaquaint you with the world...that was not my experience.  The Wilderness section was an outdoor setting...living in teepees and inlcuded school time, physical training like workout sessions..., and that is pretty much it.  I never seemed to break down like they wanted so I was in physical confrontations every day...sometimes more than once and had extensive injuries even requiring surgeries and hospital holds.

Admission: Were you escorted, tricked or volutary into the program: I was sentenced by a judge and taken into custody.Did they have a level system? What were the requirements to graduate to the next levels? Yes, but I never quite made them...I didnt follow the healing track or whatever.Living conditions: Real backpack or homemade back-breaking contraption.
Sleeping: tent or bivouac. Teepee in WCE and on the train.
Food: Mineral withholdment as part of the process of breaking or normal food - I do not recall ever being unable to eat...in fact they forced you to eat more than you wanted...that was terrible because then they would slam you (physical restraint) and if you puked you were hurt even more...
Communication: Where letter censored or evenlopes opened before you were allowed to read them. The errorlist or impact letter. At what point were this given to you.  There was absolutely no contact with letters in or out of the program. No phone calls. I had one visit from my parents after my 2nd surgery.  The next time I communicated with them was a year later when they picked me up at my release.Education: What kind of workbook did they offer?
Staff: Qualification and training:  Different levels of staff...the highest ones were called SPS - Senior Professional Staff adn they wore a button or a cord on their jeans at the knee level to signafy.  
Punishments or consequnces: What kind did they use?: Restraint, emotional abuse, yelling, hurting, threatening, lying, not let you sleep or sit/lay down, stand for hours in one spot, etc...terrible things they would say to get you to "snap".

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