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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Facility Question and Answers => Topic started by: anythinganyone on July 22, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
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I'm quite curious.
It's also pretty verifiable she's a real person, right? I get the impression it's extremely unlikely she isn't.
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I'm quite curious.
It's also pretty verifiable she's a real person, right? I get the impression it's extremely unlikely she isn't.
anythinganyone, Its nice that you care enough to remember, Morgan is a real person (a 15 year old girl) who came to fornits for help and information on the Troubled Teen Industry. Her parents were considering Academy at Sisters. She trusted a few people here (Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel), who post here frequently, and instead of trying to help her they posted all her personal information…... Name, address, phone number on a pornographic internet site that included graphic pictures of people engaging in oral sex, anal sex and links to prostitution sites. They ran this girl into the ground just for personal pleasure. I cant imagine how she felt with her parents and friends seeing that and her name linked to that site. So I don’t think she will be coming back.
I think it is a shame that kids get this type of treatment here on fornits for just trying to reach out. Out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong. The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy.
But they are doing fine and have taken their discussion off line (probably permanently)
I think it would be prudent to warn other newcomers of this danger when they come here for help. Maybe the admins could post something.
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Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others. (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision. In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.
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Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others. (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision. In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.
Then you were not here, Samara. They posted her name and address and phone number on a porn site. I will send you the link via PM (but will not post it here) if you want. Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel... Joel might be a survivor but the others are not I dont believe.
Its about making programs look bad at all costs even if you need to put kids at risk to try to make a point.
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I didn't stick up for them lame ass. So stop lying. In fact, I was VERY upset by that post on ED - I protested it. I do NOT need to see it again, in PM or anywhere. But I was NOT the only person who was angry about it. Many of us were. This is where you prevaricate - by pretending you and maybe one other person was upset by it. No sane person would endorse or condone that post.
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You absolutely digust me, Whooter, by lying about my "smoothing it over." I did NO such thing.
In any event, I can't blame Morgan or her parents for taking their inquiry off site, and this is why I am upset with actions on ED. I still hope that she and her parents are making conscientious choices. She seemd like a very insightful, intelligent, independent minded person. The world doesn't always welcome that in a kid.
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Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others. (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision. In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.
Then you were not here, Samara. They posted her name and address and phone number on a porn site. I will send you the link via PM (but will not post it here) if you want. Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel... Joel might be a survivor but the others are not I dont believe.
Its funny how you stick up for these people and how the truth comes out that its really not about the kids for many here. Its about making programs look bad at all costs even if you need to put kids at risk to try to make a point.
If people were appalled then show us the posts. They were afraid to speak out here on fornits for fear they would be viewed as pro program. The people who did this to her were cowards and it was wrong and the people who stayed quiet are just as bad, but you come on here to defend them,Samara.
Sure, Samara, say I had it wrong to Morgan and her family who have to endure what happened while you smooth it over.
I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:
Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782)[/list]
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Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others. (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision. In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.
Then you were not here, Samara. They posted her name and address and phone number on a porn site. I will send you the link via PM (but will not post it here) if you want. Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel... Joel might be a survivor but the others are not I dont believe.
Its funny how you stick up for these people and how the truth comes out that its really not about the kids for many here. Its about making programs look bad at all costs even if you need to put kids at risk to try to make a point.
If people were appalled then show us the posts. They were afraid to speak out here on fornits for fear they would be viewed as pro program. The people who did this to her were cowards and it was wrong and the people who stayed quiet are just as bad, but you come on here to defend them,Samara.
Sure, Samara, say I had it wrong to Morgan and her family who have to endure what happened while you smooth it over.
I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:
Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782)[/list]
Oh ya, you folks were just burning up, please Ursus save yourself your soul is on fire.
Samara you are absolutely right, I do remember you being shocked by all this crap, whooter
she did feel this was profoundly wrong.
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I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:
Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782)[/list]
From your link, Ursus, in order of who responded:
Oscar was clearly upset
Froderick baled out and ran off.
DannyII was pissed
Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.
Inculcated was upset and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.
Ursus Uncool
Kleenex badgers morgan even more
Pile of shit bails out
Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do
Samara was upset more than most others (I reverse my rage with her)
Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior
Awake was upset
Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures
Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining
So 14 people besides myself posted...
5 were upset
2 erased their post and ran off.
4 felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior
the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.
Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program. What do you think the reaction would be? Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move? How many people on fornits reported this abuse here? how many just pushed it under the carpet? Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?
Do you really feel that people were outraged here? Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?
Look at the posts and give it some thought.
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You absolutely digust me, Whooter, by lying about my "smoothing it over." I did NO such thing.
In any event, I can't blame Morgan or her parents for taking their inquiry off site, and this is why I am upset with actions on ED. I still hope that she and her parents are making conscientious choices. She seemd like a very insightful, intelligent, independent minded person. The world doesn't always welcome that in a kid.
Samara, I apologize for my previous posts. I was thinking of another poster.
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I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:
Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782)[/list]
From you link, Ursus, in order of who responded:
Oscar was clearly upset
Froderick baled out and ran off.
DannyII was pissed
Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.
Inculcated was upset and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.
Kleenex badgers morgan even more
Pile of shit bails out
Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do
Samara was upset more than most others (I reverse my rage with her)
Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior
Awake was upset
Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures
Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining
So 13 people besides myself posted...
5 were upset
2 erased their post and ran off.
3 felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior
the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.
Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program. What do you think the reaction would be? Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move? How many people on fornits reported this abuse here? how many just pushed it under the carpet? Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?
Do you really feel that people were outraged here? Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?
Look at the posts and give it some thought.
Oh, I've looked at the posts. Outside of the fact that that thread, at least initially before it went off on another tangent, contains far more expression of concern than your initial assertion of "out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong. The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy," you conveniently omitted my post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782&start=15#p369487)... lol, fancy that. So... my guess is either that you haven't read that thread carefully enough, or that you tend to read quite selectively.
Moreover, I would also like to add that your outrage seems peculiarly convenient, given your pro-program marketing stance, along with the fact that you tend to dismiss most allegations of abuse that some folks have already experienced in programs as having been "fabricated," not to mention laughable, e.g., as illustrated in the following exchange (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=25925&p=316451#p316451):
Not enough duct tape for ya?
Ha,Ha,Ha you have been here for awhile!! Remember that guy who claimed he was duct taped from head to toe and then carried down to the ocean during a monsoon and thrown in!!! Talk about trying to get attention. Looking back now I think if he toned his story down a little and told us he was forced to carry wood around or study for hours on end he would have got a few people to believe him. But I do think that is the overall classic fabricated story I have heard here.
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I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:
Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782)[/list]
From you link, Ursus, in order of who responded:
Oscar was clearly upset
Froderick baled out and ran off.
DannyII was pissed
Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.
Inculcated was upset and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.
Kleenex badgers morgan even more
Pile of shit bails out
Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do
Samara was upset more than most others (I reverse my rage with her)
Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior
Awake was upset
Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures
Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining
So 13 people besides myself posted...
5 were upset
2 erased their post and ran off.
3 felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior
the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.
Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program. What do you think the reaction would be? Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move? How many people on fornits reported this abuse here? how many just pushed it under the carpet? Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?
Do you really feel that people were outraged here? Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?
Look at the posts and give it some thought.
Oh, I've looked at the posts. Outside of the fact that that thread, at least initially before it went off on another tangent, contains far more expression of concern than your initial assertion of "out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong. The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy," you conveniently omitted my post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782&start=15#p369487)... lol, fancy that. So... my guess is either that you haven't read that thread carefully enough, or that you tend to read quite selectively.
Moreover, I would also like to add that your outrage seems peculiarly convenient, given your pro-program marketing stance, along with the fact that you tend to dismiss most allegations of abuse that some folks have already experienced in programs as having been "fabricated," not to mention laughable, e.g., as illustrated in the following exchange (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=25925&p=316451#p316451):
Not enough duct tape for ya?
Ha,Ha,Ha you have been here for awhile!! Remember that guy who claimed he was duct taped from head to toe and then carried down to the ocean during a monsoon and thrown in!!! Talk about trying to get attention. Looking back now I think if he toned his story down a little and told us he was forced to carry wood around or study for hours on end he would have got a few people to believe him. But I do think that is the overall classic fabricated story I have heard here.
I did go back and add your post in, Ursus, you must have missed it while you were posting this one.
I did think that was funny it was a classic. He blew his credibility it when he mentioned the monsoon and the duct tape. Wow that was like 4 years ago.....But Morgans post was a real story. I dont think anyone posting thought that Morgan wasn't real. At least not from the posts that I read. I hope you are not trying to play that angle. The ED alone shows that Morgan and her family was a real story.
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I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:
Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782)[/list]
From you link, Ursus, in order of who responded:
Oscar was clearly upset
Froderick baled out and ran off.
DannyII was pissed
Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.
Inculcated was upset and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.
Kleenex badgers morgan even more
Pile of shit bails out
Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do
Samara was upset more than most others (I reverse my rage with her)
Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior
Awake was upset
Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures
Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining
So 13 people besides myself posted...
5 were upset
2 erased their post and ran off.
3 felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior
the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.
Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program. What do you think the reaction would be? Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move? How many people on fornits reported this abuse here? how many just pushed it under the carpet? Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?
Do you really feel that people were outraged here? Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?
Look at the posts and give it some thought.
Oh, I've looked at the posts. Outside of the fact that that thread, at least initially before it went off on another tangent, contains far more expression of concern than your initial assertion of "out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong. The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy," you conveniently omitted my post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782&start=15#p369487)... lol, fancy that. So... my guess is either that you haven't read that thread carefully enough, or that you tend to read quite selectively.
Moreover, I would also like to add that your outrage seems peculiarly convenient, given your pro-program marketing stance, along with the fact that you tend to dismiss most allegations of abuse that some folks have already experienced in programs as having been "fabricated," not to mention laughable, e.g., as illustrated in the following exchange (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=25925&p=316451#p316451):
Not enough duct tape for ya?
Ha,Ha,Ha you have been here for awhile!! Remember that guy who claimed he was duct taped from head to toe and then carried down to the ocean during a monsoon and thrown in!!! Talk about trying to get attention. Looking back now I think if he toned his story down a little and told us he was forced to carry wood around or study for hours on end he would have got a few people to believe him. But I do think that is the overall classic fabricated story I have heard here.
Ursus do you ever get bored with your lame posts. The post you threw up there to discredit whooter was a hoax, the poster lied. Kind of goes towards are whole point of posters here will do anything to get attention.
Morgan thread, if this is a hoax, would pretty much be a slam dunk in convincing most that fornits is a big joke (I don't think that). So either way your cooked.
You my friend ran and hid from this, I'm sure wondering about the fallout but also because you got scared. Your part of the Admin crew....lol.
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I did go back and add your post in, Ursus, you must have missed it while you were posting this one.
Actually, you went back and edited that in three minutes after my post, not that it matters much or that I even much cared in the first place. It was your inaccurate representation of the response here in its entirety that I was most focused on.
I did think that was funny it was a classic. He blew his credibility it when he mentioned the monsoon and the duct tape. Wow that was like 4 years ago.....But Morgans post was a real story. I dont think anyone posting thought that Morgan wasn't real. At least not from the posts that I read. I hope you are not trying to play that angle. The ED alone shows that Morgan and her family was a real story.
I'm not sure what you're trying to insinuate here, but I found both stories quite believable.
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The post you threw up there to discredit whooter was a hoax, the poster lied.
And you would know this... how? Do you know the poster personally? And yet you make so much noise here on the threads, averring charges of slander on the part of others. Lol.
Incidentally, this incident was posted about long before you chose to grace us with your eruditions. :D
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The post you threw up there to discredit whooter was a hoax, the poster lied.
And you would know this... how? Do you know the poster personally? And yet you make so much noise here on the threads, averring charges of slander on the part of others. Lol.
Incidentally, this was posted long before you chose to grace us with your eruditions. :D
Oh, contrary to popular belief I was around long before you my friend, "guests" would post frequently long ago but I've said this many times before, you seem to miss it everytime. So please Ursus, remember your the new one amongst Whooter and I. Fall in line please and listen up, you may learn something "newbe".
This dude lied, was caught and recanted his assertions.
Ursus, please when you want to accuse me of something at least be accurate and also make sure your not the biggest example of your accusation.....lol.
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I have to add. Beside me the entire Spft organization was upset. For the most part it is our volunteers who maintain the victim list. We know that it was her future which was at stake.
Whenever someone outside her approach this board, we have decided to treat them like they are real persons. Maybe a troll or two have cheated us from time to time. We don't care. A lot of you are survivors. You have told us how much it matters. So we at Spft believe that we cannot take any chances.
Residential treatment must always be the very last option.
For some like Morgan it is a question of her future, which would be badly suited in a program where they according to survivors are treated better than WWASP programs, but also according to members of the Myspace group only prepared to be good wives and almost every woman today knows that it would take more to make it through adult life than doing household chores, cook and care for the man and the children.
For us who live in a society where all residential treatment is paid over the taxes, it is a question of survival. We have a too costly system with the other Nordic countries and the European Union have given us 3 years to cut down somewhere in our system and we would rather cut them on residential treatment so we end up with standards like Norway and Finland than taking life support of some at the hospitals before all treatment options have been tried, which is the alternative discussed in the media.
We are working very closely with politicians to provide alternatives because we have the resources in our society to care for our teenagers without residential treatment but we are up against propaganda from the US and that's is why we are here and at many other boards. We have realized that we cannot win by insulting the parents. We must win them over and we must set up 100 of sites providing information with our agenda so the marketing from the industry downs.
Please treat the next teenager or parent with dignity. If we don't learn from the mistakes then we will lose for sure.
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The only people who really know about Morgan are the spirit guides!!!
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Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.
To be clear, I was laughing at Danny thinking that HE had any reason or right to sue over what happened to someone else.
And I said it was a dick move to post the info.
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Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others. (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision. In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.
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Actually, what we're appalled by is the spam links in your signature.
Go "search engine optimize" somewhere else, faggot.
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Actually, what we're appalled by is the spam links in your signature.
Go "search engine optimize" somewhere else, faggot.
No what all your friends here don't have the balls to say to you because they are gutless and are in such great need of supporters, that they will accept a "piece of shit" like you.
Is they can't sleep at night knowing they enable people like you.
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Fornits is a more or less continuous firestorm.
If you're going to do something, VERY SOON would be the time to do it.
If you're not going to do anything and your parents are still determined to send you to that hellhole, enjoy a year of isolation.
Oh, and when they offer you a candy bar in exchange for contact from your parents? Don't take it.
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Perhaps I should explain. The candy bar thing is quite real. His parents wouldn't send him anything on Christmas. So some staffer gave him a candy bar instead and he "learned appreciation" from it.
Not making it up, was originally intended as a pro-program post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30921)
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Hey Morgan....nice to hear from you.
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Hey Morgan....nice to hear from you.
Hah, Nice to see people are still concerned with some of this shit.
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Hey Morgan....nice to hear from you.
Hah, Nice to see people are still concerned with some of this shit.
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Ursus, your going to pick now on this thread, when you know the consequences to try and one up me. You really don't care about what is going on here, do you.
Please save your rebuttal for the garbage can.
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We at Spft (http://http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/) will always be concerned "with this shit". We maintain the victim list (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Victims) and we really would like to see that no more entries are made to that part of the list which is teenagers who are dyring during treatment. Because the industry has proven themselves unable to increase protection the death count continue unless we continue to warn parents and the teenagers.
The industry need federal guidelines to a start and as long as they are fighting it, we will be active fighting the industry.
Morgan. While some people at this message board has done little good with your case, we hope that there still will be some local solution to your situation. You can visit the myspace/facebook groups we have listed on the datasheet of the facility in question (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Academy_at_Sisters). You can read what girls who have been there write about the skills they have learned. The Academy will be able to educate you to be a good soccer mom, but it is not what you have written that you want with your life.
For the present we can only pray that your parents despite the poor handling of the case will able to decide for the right solution, so you can fulfill your dreams over time.
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Hey Morgan....nice to hear from you.
Hah, Nice to see people are still concerned with some of this shit.
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Ursus, your going to pick now on this thread, when you know the consequences to try and one up me. You really don't care about what is going on here, do you.
Please save your rebuttal for the garbage can.
"Consequences" ... for commenting in a thread? Lol. That's pretty lame, even for you, Danny. :D
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We at Spft (http://http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/) will always be concerned "with this shit". We maintain the victim list (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Victims) and we really would like to see that no more entries are made to that part of the list which is teenagers who are dyring during treatment. Because the industry has proven themselves unable to increase protection the death count continue unless we continue to warn parents and the teenagers.
The industry need federal guidelines to a start and as long as they are fighting it, we will be active fighting the industry.
Morgan. While some people at this message board has done little good with your case, we hope that there still will be some local solution to your situation. You can visit the myspace/facebook groups we have listed on the datasheet of the facility in question (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Academy_at_Sisters). You can read what girls who have been there write about the skills they have learned. The Academy will be able to educate you to be a good soccer mom, but it is not what you have written that you want with your life.
For the present we can only pray that your parents despite the poor handling of the case will able to decide for the right solution, so you can fulfill your dreams over time.
It's a tough tough world out there... Thanks, Oscar, fwiw, for keeping the focus on Morgan, and others in her shoes.
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Worst case this school can set you back the time you are at it, because they will focus heavily on "therapy". Do you have some agreement about what kind of issue they should be working with according to your parents? They will try to invent drug or alcohol addiction because they want to earn money and keep you there for as long as possible. They are first and foremost a business. If you confess to either of those thing they have the arguments for a long time treatment period and your high school courses will have to be taken over again once you are released.
But you have a future to concern yourself about after the "timeout" so you can help yourself if your parents can give you some hint about what they try to fix. They will try to break you at the Lodge campus, so you might better act a breakdown so you can be transferred to the Read campus and start reading up their elementary school curriculum not too fast but just fast enough so they believe that you take the curriculum serious. Did the girl who have been there speak about how fast a breakdown can be acted so you don't do it so fast that they will figure out that it is an act?
Did you exhaust any possibility to live at a normal boarding school or a relative instead?
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Do your relatives have any idea of the kind of place your parents want to send you to?
Are any of them in a position to conceivably take legal custody of you?
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Perhaps if they better knew the risks, they'd be more willing to do that.
Similarly, all of them working together have a much better chance of success than individually.
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But do all the rest?
If you think any of them can help, and aren't, what impetus can be given for them to engage actively?
We have an aunt on this board in a practically identical situation, AuntieEm2. (AuntieEm2 is NOTHING like me and has not a whit of my fury.) Perhaps the two aunts should speak.
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Well, then, they should find something constructive to do and quickly. (Again, I really recommend that they start talking to AuntieEm2. What she has to say might shock them into action.)
I'm just throwing out ideas I think might help. At this point, it's not like you have much to lose in trying to get the ball rolling on anything that might plausibly help.
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Speaking of which, *did* you ever talk to Phil Elberg? It's not like he's going to charge you for calling his office and taking a few minutes of his time.
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Maybe not, but that strange man actually practices law and doesn't post much on Fornits.
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What about classmates? Are they aware of the situation?
They could set up a Facebook group out of concern with you. Something like:
Help bring Jessica Lux back home! - Facebook (http://http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117657928264650)
It was not first support group we are aware of. Years back a girl got released from TurnAbout Ranch (http://http://www.caica.org/Free%20Chandra%20campaign%2011-19-06.htm) and she is living happily at her aunt. She has been able to focus on her career and in some years she will become a vet. Also a boy detained at Diamond Ranch was helped by families and friends back home. It was his luck because the place was deadly at that time. A boy died out there. A boy named Nathan was freed from a program in Texas using twitter and a webpage (http://http://freenathan.com/).
We are worried because you through your writings give an impression that you have goals in your life and all the alumnis speak about in the Facebook/Myspace groups is about how they are taught to be good wives and taking care of their husband and future children. (A lot of them seems to have children or being pregnant despite their young ages). This place seems like it only would be a very long time-out in your life.
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Maybe not, but that strange man actually practices law and doesn't post much on Fornits.
Don't know where to start.
Lawyers usually don't care about situations like these.
Oscar, I shall try it.
Phil Elberg is fairly well known for his representing survivors of various programs. He's won some big cases and gotten some large settlements for survivors. More importantly though, Phil has always struck me as a fairly decent person who does his sort of work for more than just the money. To me he seems genuinely distressed by the plight of kids in programs.
How he can help you in your situation is an interesting question, I guess you'd have to call to find out.
This is what I suggest you do...
Ask yourself if you truly want to put your entire life on hold to go live in the bubble of a program to please your father? All the danger signals put aside, all the possible scenarios set aside, the biggest thing you face here is having your entire life put on hold over something that to me seems like a personal dispute between your mother and father. If you don't want to do that.. then create your own options.
Sell your dad on an option and then go through with it.