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Getting more flashbacks than Tom Wingo in ¨The Prince of Tides¨.Remembering how inept the Straight execs were,always being told to trust these goofballs.John Buick voluntarily signed himself into Str8 as an adult.After knowing his history,did they think that they needed an engraved invitation to read this freakshow.I remember that after his problem became obvious,my inner voice kept screaming for Hartz to terminate this fucker.It seems that the more warped a newbie was,the more Helen Petermann took to them.He wanted in and they let him in!CREEPY!!!!!!!!

Another success story for the founders to boast about!!!!!!

All of this discussion of John Buick is causing me all sorts of flashbacks.I remember his going quicker than average through the phases and being somewhat of a favorite of Helen Petermann.Quick to yell at somebody during a comedown spitting out a bunch of off-the-wall straight-talk as fast as anyone,like so many,not having a clue to what he was saying.Finally,on 4th Phase,one of his newcomers stands him up just before an open meeting,denouncing him for checking him out in the shower.A few days later,probably all in a days work,Aimee Wright(or wrong)depending on your preference,more or less pulls it out that he has desires for guys in the program.While I'm getting ready to vomit all over the place,Aimee puts him on a refresher.I think Hartz and Ross decided discretion being the better part of valor,I didn't remember John or David Buick getting any more newcomers after that.Soon after that,John was pushed on,graduated.He was still a favorite of Helen Petermann.In the Seven Step Society,this asshole was still trying to play the group Nazi when Don Harman,one of the nicer people there,just ripped into John,telling him he thought he was better than everybody else.He started accusing me of stuff in front of my family during a seven step joint rap,one where Beehive Helen used the opportunity to ambush me and the the most motivated to tear into me was John B.I just told my parents to ignore him as he was just a closet queen trying to hide his true self.I agree with Woof totally that comparing Dave Searcy(RIP)to John Buick was unfair just because thay had the same sexual orientation.Dave Searcy,even though he was on staff,was someone you could communicate with on a one-to-one basis.If you tried the same conversation with the convict at hand,he'd try to snow me with a bunch of BS straight talk and run out the door,not that I'd care very much.I guess the "No Guy/Girl Relationships" rule didn't bother him very much.Maybe they can parole him to Ocala to Helen Petermann.

Not blaming.Woof,kpickle,and myself were all contemporaries of these two jokers and we're not wearing the same colors.We were all recipients of same sadistic quackery and misguided ignorance as these two went through.John Buick was convinced that his gayness was just a part of his druggie illness.A year of that kind of brainwashing could not have been beneficial.Scott Patterson was in junior high school when he entered.What a great place to begin puberty!Not placing blame,but rest assured,very well could have contributed.The astronomical suicide rate definitely goes back to the program.Let me spell it out ,we endure the program believing that everything we're learning will prepare us for the outside and BOOM!,we realize that not only were we not prepared,if anything we were put in reverse.That's when despondence and despair sets in.Many people believe their life has ended there,rather than a chance to really start over.

That's him!On top of the astronomical suicide rate,do you think that this deviance might have something to do with his,would you say,programming.

John Buick's info
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates ... =905054266

Quote from: "Sam Kinison"

http://www.sheriffcitrus.org/public/ArRptDetail2.aspx?bnbr=10116195

Nephew of early Str8 grad Cindy Waller.Son of Ed Waller(withdrew at 18).Nephew of the late Lenny Waller(another former client deceased before 50)

Yo Sam, is this Waller clan any relation to Brian Waller? Just asking cause the names dont ring a bell. When I heard/saw the name Waller...Brian Waller was the first person to come to mind. Now I cant get his image outta my head! Good person and all, no doubt...but dont need the image tween my ears.

Very cool being able to read the arrest report, I looked up John Buick (cuz he was mentioned recently) on the State of Florida Dept of Correction Offender Data Base, although it showed his image, his present location and the nature of his offence. The page offered no more information than that. It's a perverse curiosity that makes me just wanna know the circumstances of his arrest.

Much Peace
Continued Healing
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Here it is about the flaming John B
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates ... =690899294
Forgive me for sounding like a bigot but I did not like this guy being in group at all.I,like many of us,never was all that comfortable with all the guy-to-guy contact that went on there.When I was on front row,an early graduate(had to be,graduated before MY intake)named Kip Almendrue ASSURED that Str8 didn't any gays in the group,something that was screened I supposed.Then this guy makes it to later phases confessing having a weakness with guys.He didn't even have an issue with drugs.
Talking about feeling scammed.I kept waiting for Hartz to terminate this queen since his presence could present a serious conflict with others in the group.namely me.Anybody still talking to Chris Tyler should ask him about his run-in with this person.Definitely was one guy a lot of us didn't have anything in common with.

As far as the Wallers are concerned,No,Mr.D,these Wallers finished their relationship with Str8 in the Rahall Building.Nobody reading these boards but myself at this time would know them.