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The Troubled Teen Industry / A special note to Psy:
« on: November 18, 2007, 09:52:40 PM »
Was that a PM that was quoted or is it posted somewhere on the forum? Or did the poster quote him/herself?

Never mind. I found it.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / A special note to Deborah
« on: November 18, 2007, 08:51:18 PM »
Quote from: ""TheWho""
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I think stress is getting to everybody but I know what you mean. Look. When Psy un-banned the Who he told him how sensitive Deb was about him. Psy warned Who to please keep the hell out of the HLA forum to avoid agrivating her and what did he do? He went right into the HLA forum and started pulling his typical bullshit.

Prior to being banned, my last post in the HLA forum was May 13th, 2007

I was Banned on June 4th, 2007 I believe and came back about 6 weeks later (I believe)
Which would put us in mid July…  
I didn’t post in the HLA forum again until September 10, 2007… I made 8 posts as I engaged in one conversation and have not posted there since…


So I don’t think of this as going right back to posting in the HLA forum or purposely aggravating Deborah.



For the Record
Up until Who was banned he stalked the HLA forum daily.
He was banned on 1 June
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=263958#263958

Which I had nothing to do with
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=263958#263958
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=263957#263957
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=263972#263972

Two months of peace on the forum was disturbed when he started derailing threads in HLA forum on or around 1 Aug
18 in this thread
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=22441

40 in this one
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=277799#277799

5 in this one
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=273814#273814

Unbanned on 23 Aug and starts his organized plan to slander regulars and create division.  
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=278596#278596

He certainly has posted since he's been back. The only reasons he's not creating chaos now is because it was a condition of him being allowed back onto the forum and primarily because there has been little to no activity since he returned. The judge denied class status on the 24th.

But it certainly hasn't stopped him from slandering me in other forums
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=296461#296461

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Aspen Education Group / TO EMILY GRAEBER (Island View escapee):
« on: November 18, 2007, 01:32:22 PM »
Interesting. I can't relate to that story at all. I don't have pets. Not a public figure. Didn't give my kids away (or "loose" them). I find that story to be more analogous to you, Who.

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When pet rescue agency Mutts and Moms heard of Iggy’s new domestic arrangements, it informed DeGeneres that giving away the Brussels Griffon terrier cross was a breach of the adoption contract she had signed.

“Well, I guess I signed a piece of paper that says if I can’t keep Iggy, it goes back to the rescue organisation, which is not someone’s home, which is not a family. These two little girls had bonded to the dog. I thought I did a good thing. I tried to find a loving home for the dog because I couldn’t keep it. I was trying to do a good thing.


Wouldn't it be nice is adopted kids had the same protection !!! And were removed from their adoptive parents when they decide parenting is too much and stick them in BM warehouses?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: A special note to Deborah
« on: November 18, 2007, 02:02:53 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I have lost so much faith in you with your fights with the Who. It seems like you are completely guided by anger now that it consumes you. Before you spent most of your time fighting with the who I used to love reading your posts. Now I dread reading them.


Please don't attempt to manipulate me with your disappointment. Or is it the other readers your attempting to manipulate? A seed of suggestion?

I have avoided him like the plague since he was allowed back on the forum. I spend a day defending myself against his ongoing slanderous comments and you've lost "faith" in me?  ::roflmao::

Please, don't put so much faith in me. And don't ever subject yourself to anything you dread. Makes for a pissy outlook on life.

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Open Free for All / China Laces Toys with Ecstacy
« on: November 18, 2007, 12:39:32 AM »
Is was reported that this chemical was used because it was cheaper than the non-toxic alternative.
Doesn't matter where the parent was. Parents can't have their eyes on the kids every moment. Kids will put things in their mouth and swallow things. This coating shouldn't be used for this reason, just as lead paint shouldn't be used on toys.
I'm sure those parents would've put it under lock and key and only allowed their kid to play with it under their supervision, IF it was disclosed on the packaging that swallowing the beads would result in violent vomitting and coma.

Rachael,
I despise the "War on Everything" too. Are you aware of the rash of unsafe products that we've experience in the past year. Two from China that come to mind are dog food and flip flops. The former killing many people's pets and the later causing people's feet to blister and peel under the straps of the flip flops.

Ultimately, the issue is lax safety regulations. Not that regs are much better here, we also had the spinach, peanut butter, hamburger recalls that were packaged here.

I looked at the article again and didn't see a reference to MDMA, or missed it.  What I read was
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The chemical culprit of all this is 1,4-butanediol, which breaks down into gamma hydroxy butyrate, also known as the "date rape drug."


which was supported by other articles I read. What is MDMA?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / A special note to Psy:
« on: November 18, 2007, 12:17:25 AM »
You are without a doubt insane and the ultimate habitual liar, with more than a program parent's interest in this topic.

Quote from: ""TheWho""
I asked you to stop deleting my posts.  I attempted to resolve it personally with you first and when it didn’t stop I brought it up in the open forum.
 

Then you shouldn't have a problem producing the alleged PM and giving Ginger permission to confirm if it exists in your PMs.

Why did you go AWOL in the thread where I challenged you to produce a shread of evidence? Admin trail isn't necessary. Coward.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=296308#296308
Starting with the alleged PM in which you claimed to have "warned" me not to delete your posts?
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 363#296363

Quote from: ""TheWho""
Psy worked to get the database changed to one which would give an edit trail to all edits including admins..... you were outed and changes have been made to prevent this from happening again…

What reality do you live in? The entire forum watched as Gook changed your's and Niles's usernames and passwords and delete an entire thread, three weeks ago? Interesting that you claim to have laughed it up with TSW, but when it went down you were furious, demanding that the "fucking database be secured". As if you were in a position to make any demands here. Also interesting that you "forgive" the person who actually deleted your posts but continue with your campaign claiming that I did.  

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=290455#290455
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Nice try at covering your butts.. the posts were altered, they always have been and I just provided the evidence.  now instead of trying to make me look like the one doing it, why not do your jobs and plug the hole so it cant happen to other people.  There is a hole in your system and no one is going to feel safe posting sensitive information until you get this fixed.  Especially if they work for the industry.

Fix the fucking problem...dont do it for me, fools.. do it for the information you may get from disgruntled employees who may want to post here
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=296363#296363[/url]

Quote from: ""TheWho""
I thought you were playing the victim because someone asked you why you question other peoples parenting skills when you apparently had yours taken away from you.. all I am saying is you shouldn’t judge others until you get things straightened out in your own home.  In today’s society it is difficult to take away a mothers child from her for no reason… you shouldn’t point fingers.


Not "someone", that was you.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=296158#296158
My kids weren't taken away and I'm not a lesbian.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=296449#296449

What were your adopted kids doing today while you sat on Fornits all day slandering me? Spend some time with your kids. Aspen's income stream doesn't appear at this point to be in jeopardy, or is it?

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Quote from: ""TheWho""
Nice try at covering your butts.. the posts were altered, they always have been and I just provided the evidence.  now instead of trying to make me look like the one doing it, why not do your jobs and plug the hole so it cant happen to other people.  There is a hole in your system and no one is going to feel safe posting sensitive information until you get this fixed.  Especially if they work for the industry.

Fix the fucking problem...dont do it for me, fools.. do it for the information you may get from disgruntled employees who may want to post here

Do your jobs and secure the database!!

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Aspen Education Group / TO EMILY GRAEBER (Island View escapee):
« on: November 17, 2007, 11:25:45 PM »
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Yeh, well you've wasted another half hour on here posting things that don't matter, in the bigger picture of life, when you could of spent it with your kids.

We both know that you dont have that option...tsk..tsk  again with the finger pointing... why dont you get a dog.. but wait dont go down the same path as Ellen DeGeneres , wouldnt want it to happen to you again...


My kids are grown Who. That's how little you actually know about me. I don't know the significance of the ED comment, but assume you're implying I'm a lesbian?
I'm not, but would it matter if I were? Oh yeah, you and Aspen Ed support the "treatment" of homosexuality.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / A special note to Psy:
« on: November 17, 2007, 09:34:50 PM »
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Deborah""
::roflmao::
Perhaps Alan Newman is a competitor.
Who gets off on slandering people under the guise of Free Speech, in this case, it was orginally an anon post.
When his anon posts were linked to his username and this was pointed out he quickly changed it.
He left those pretending to be an ex Hyde participant.


Its funny , if you look at your last 10 posts they all refer to “Free speechâ€

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Aspen Education Group / TO EMILY GRAEBER (Island View escapee):
« on: November 17, 2007, 09:01:58 PM »
Yeh, well you've wasted another half hour on here posting things that don't matter, in the bigger picture of life, when you could of spent it with your kids.

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Web forum hosting / Visit www.fornits.com
« on: November 17, 2007, 08:57:16 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Thank you Antigen, your above reply shows just what you are, a miserable person and a miserable American who pretends to confuse absoute lack of responsibility with true liberty.  

Boy, would the Founding Fathers, who DID recognize the difference, have absolutely no time for you--- or your hypocritical justifications for putting others at risk.  

Your little psycho-minion's house-post illustrates the kind of sickos who are associated with you.  As if additional proof was needed.

Was that really your house?

Next stop for me is to communicate with Sue S. and her representatives who seem well on the way to putting a stop to this.  I advise others who have been damaged by this web site to do the same.  

What are you actionable damages? How specifically have you been harmed?

If you've kept and collected phone trap records, email addresses, messages, and posts of harrassers connected with this site, why not send them to Sue & Company, the contact info is posted on the Sue Scheff thread or try her website.  Let's pool what's out there and see what can be done.  

Um, boy... that could open a can of worms. Ginger might inevitably have to release the posts in which regulars were stalked. There was also the matter of late night threats to a certain posters phone too. This could be interesting.

It will save others what some of us have been through and, with a little luck, might even put some of the scum away for a few years--whether or not they're willing to admit outright that they are co-conspirators in this.  Ignorance of the law has never been an excuse as I fervently hope some of these jokers get to learn the hard way.

Damn, how bad were your harrassers? Were you raped? Injured? Shot at? Abducted, but escaped? Post those docs here so others can get an idea of how bad it was !!
Still unwilling to accept that "you are at cause in your life"?
Are we to deduce that you have rejected that est/CEDU mantra? Or just choosing not to apply it to yourself. Good for the kids, not good for O5.


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Aspen Education Group / TO EMILY GRAEBER (Island View escapee):
« on: November 17, 2007, 08:34:44 PM »
Quote from: ""TheWho""
well I think I got my point across.. let me run out and find my adoptive kids.. oh wait they are at the Aspen Family picnic this weekend .. I forgot I have the weekend off..


Just to clarify, kids are "adopted". Doesn't "adoptive" appy to the parents/families?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / A special note to Psy:
« on: November 17, 2007, 08:15:23 PM »
::roflmao::
Perhaps Alan Newman is a competitor.
Who gets off on slandering people under the guise of Free Speech, in this case, it was orginally an anon post.
When his anon posts were linked to his username and this was pointed out he quickly changed it.
He left those pretending to be an ex Hyde participant.

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Aspen Education Group / TO EMILY GRAEBER (Island View escapee):
« on: November 17, 2007, 08:06:24 PM »
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Deborah wrote:
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The question in my mind is why can't you make a point without resorting to slandering me or anyone else practing their right to free speech and opinion.

Does free speech include altering people words? Or deleting what others have to say.. maybe we should start there.  Did you watch a movie or something?  Get inspired by one of the presidential debates? Why are you so concerned all of a sudden with “free speechâ€

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Aspen Education Group / TO EMILY GRAEBER (Island View escapee):
« on: November 17, 2007, 07:59:20 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
I also resent that you're accusing me of not knowing the "details", but you're not even engaged enough with the story to know that the family didn't ask SHF to return the girl to them. SHF took that upon themselves. They didn't even notify the family that they'd located her. And what's that about? A little ego stroking for themselves? Wanted to be involved with the happy reunion? What if one of the parents had wanted to fly out to Ca and bring her home?
If you had been "engaged and actively involved" you could of answered my questions without resorting to slander.

hmm, that's interesting. The parents weren't told that she was found, and they decided to transport her to granma's, independantly?

That's pretty weird....You'd think they could manage a phone call? This thing gets curiouser and curiouser


http://www.kmov.com/video/topvideo-inde ... vid=193607

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