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Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2006, 08:16:16 PM
The truth of the Sue Scheff case:

Sue Scheff and PURE Win Empty Victory over New Orleans Mom
International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC)

10/9/2006 9:21:45 PM

BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA (October 10, 2006) - On September 19, 2006, Parents Universal Resource Experts, Inc. (PURE) and its founder, Sue Scheff of Weston, Florida won an $11.3 million dollar victory of hollow sorts over a single mom from New Orleans by alleging defamation over the Internet. Although it is doubtful the verdict will be collected, it may serve to chill free speech of those attempting to expose child abuse or untoward business practices.

The mom, Carey Bock, had publicly criticized the business practices of Scheff and PURE in referring children to allegedly abusive programs. Scheff met the mother?s complaints with a lawsuit reminiscent of one filed against Scheff in 2001.

The mom lacked the financial resources to defend herself or to attend her own trial in Florida. Before trial, Ms. Bock relocated her small family from the New Orleans area to Texas in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. This, however, did not stop Scheff and PURE from coming full-steam after the mom for alleged defamation and other claims. As a result, without the benefit of hearing the mom?s side of the story, a jury had little choice but to award the $11.3 million dollar verdict requested by the lawyer for Scheff and her company.

According to the Daily Business Review, Scheff also named Ginger Warbis as co-defendant. Warbis, who runs a web site critical of Scheff, obtained a well-known lawyer who successfully defeated Scheff?s claims of defamation: ?Warbis? lawyer, Philip Elberg, of Medvin & Elberg of Newark, New Jersey, sharply criticized Scheff and other people who refer parents to programs for troubled teens. ?People in this industry have consistently used their money and their access to lawyers to silence critics of the industry and this may be one of those examples,? Elberg said. ?Sue Scheff is simply another person in the industry of people who make money from the plight of frightened parents.??

The Daily Business Review, noting that Scheff won effectively only by default, paraphrased Scheff?s attorney, stating, ?Bock was not present for the jury trial, which was held to determine damages only. . . .?

A separate lawsuit had been filed in Utah against Scheff and PURE by the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP), containing similar allegations as those raised by Scheff against the New Orleans mom. Scheff lost all counter-claims against WWASP but was not found liable for claims of damage allegedly caused when Scheff posted Internet statements asserting child abuse by WWASP. Scheff admitted she used false names to do so. While her case pended, Scheff removed representations from her web site which falsely stated Scheff holds a college degree.

The recent Florida verdict also ignored abuse allegations at children?s programs to which Scheff refers families because the jury never heard the opposing evidence. The owner of one such program to which Scheff made referrals, Whitmore Academy, was initially charged with multiple counts of child abuse and hazing in connection with four children at the boarding school. The owner recently pled no contest to four counts of hazing, and was ordered to pay fines and complete community service. The prosecuting attorney told the Deseret News, ?I believe it effectively shuts them down in the state of Utah.? According to a September 2006 news article by the Deseret News, ?The former operator of a therapeutic school [Whitmore Academy] for troubled youths, who has been kicked out of Mexico and accused of starving horses in Canada, has agreed not to run another rehabilitation school in Juab County.?

The allegations of child abuse did not deter Scheff from enrolling children for a profitable sum of money. In a separate case, the United States Court of Appeals found that defendants PURE and Sue Scheff, "[C]ompete with the schools associated with World Wide. PURE schools pay Ms. Scheff a substantial sum whenever a child enrolls in its program based on her recommendation."

According to the non-profit International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC), Scheff and her company are on the ISAC ?watch list? for questionable practices that may place children at risk for abuse or neglect. ####

Sources:

http://www.isaccorp.org/ (http://www.isaccorp.org/)

http://www.helpatanycost.com/ (http://www.helpatanycost.com/)

http://www.isaccorp.org/referrals.asp (http://www.isaccorp.org/referrals.asp)

http://michellesuttonmemorial.homestead.com/ (http://michellesuttonmemorial.homestead.com/)

http://www.help-for-teen.com/ (http://www.help-for-teen.com/)

http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/home.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/home.html)

http://www.wwaspinfo.com/ (http://www.wwaspinfo.com/)

http://www.teenhelpindustry.info/ (http://www.teenhelpindustry.info/)

http://www.paulareeves.com/ (http://www.paulareeves.com/)

http://www.ethicaltreatment.org/ (http://www.ethicaltreatment.org/)

http://www.kathymoya.com/index.html (http://www.kathymoya.com/index.html)

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp ... &aId=19977 (http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?SESSIONID=&aId=19977)

http://www.majon.com/advanced/pressrele ... eeves.html (http://www.majon.com/advanced/pressreleases/paulareeves.html)

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650192749,00.html (http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650192749,00.html)

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Title: Fraud in the Sue Scheff Business World IMO
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2006, 08:29:02 PM
Victims, Moms, and Advocates Join Forces to Expose
Fraud and Child Abuse in a Booming Billion Dollar Industry

CONTACT: Shelby Earnshaw

WEB SITE: www.referralfreezone.info (http://www.referralfreezone.info)

After operating separately for years, a group of survivors, moms, authors, and advocates have joined forces against child abuse in privately operated children?s programs. The group emphasizes that parents looking for family help, especially over the Internet, have no idea that agents and programs are operating without federal oversight.

The ?wolves in sheep?s clothing? begin with the self-described parent ?resource experts? and referral agents. ?No one is federally regulating or reigning in these businesses,? claims Shelby Earnshaw, who operates International Survivor?s Action Committee (ISAC). According to the coalition, the self-described "parent resource expert" or agent may frighten a parent looking for help for his or her child with descriptions of one bad residential program, only to lure the parent into another, from which the so-called "expert" is making big money.

ISAC is a watchdog organization that warns parents, collects evidence, and reports child abuse to authorities about privately operated children?s programs and those who refer to such programs. Ms. Earnshaw should know?she was a victim herself. Now an adult, with a family of her own, Ms. Earnshaw has dedicated her life to exposing the proliferation of fraudulent residential children?s programs. ?Many times the best help for the money is near home. We are here to at least warn parents about the unethical practices of self-described resource experts and referral agents.?

Some referral organizations tout their membership with the Better Business Bureau, claiming they are ?parents helping parents,? while, in fact, they are uneducated in relevant fields of child development or disorders from which children may be suffering. In reality, these Internet savvy companies are marketing experts--making their businesses traps for honest, but unwitting parents.

Thusfar, such businesses are operating with impunity because there are no federal standards by which to regulate and punish them when they go too far. Ms. Earnshaw states, ?It is not uncommon for skilled agents to talk parents into moving their children across state lines and even out of the country. The parents needing help may be under severe pressure and these companies take advantage of the parents? vulnerable state of mind.?

The Referral Free Zone is designed to provide information from researchers, authors, advocates, and parents who have no financial interest whatsoever in referring to children?s programs. ?It?s not uncommon for the operators of these programs to lie about the fact they are receiving fees. There are also no federal laws requiring ?parent resource experts? or agents to reveal child abuse or neglect that has occurred at the programs they have just referred someone to?it?s buyer beware, at its height."

One program may refer to another, with the parent not understanding the connection between the two companies. The sites all look very different from one another, giving the appearance they are independent of one another. ?This is an obvious conflict of interest,? says Ms. Earnshaw. ?We know of cases where owners are up on criminal charges or in the middle of criminal investigations for child abuse, but the ?expert or agent? turns a blind eye because they may be friends with the owners and they have been paid. It?s very dangerous for children.?

According to the Referral-Free Zone, the latest trend is to ?appear? to advocate, while referring to another company that earns money. Ms. Earnshaw explains, ?Since people have gotten wind of the for-profit referral business, referrers are now teaming up with ?child advocates.? These ?advocates? will gladly tell you how awful a particular facility is, and direct you to someone who will help you find an alternative, which happens to be a business in which they have an interest in one way or another.?

The Referral-Free Zone only allows dedicated members who do not refer to children?s programs. The coalition is committed to advocating and creating true public awareness about the increasing popularity of using our children as business commodities.


ISAC said the strength of the Referral-Free Zone?s will be through the Internet, books, and films, as well as political and media campaigns. ?Our power is growing and we will not stop until meaningful action is taken to regulate this dangerous private industry. The Referral-Free Zone will unify our efforts to educate and advocate.?

The Referral-Free Zone is found at www.referralfreezone.info (http://www.referralfreezone.info) ####
 
Related Links

www.referralfreezone.info (http://www.referralfreezone.info)
 
Contact Information
Shelby Earnshaw
Founder
International Survivors Action Committee
(540) 522-6231
[email protected]
Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2006, 08:30:37 PM
Sue Scheff you like to see your name in the press and in the lights.  Have at it!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2006, 08:57:34 PM
if you stare at that block of letters and let your eyes go out of focus you can see sou chefs face... trippy.
Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 10:30:41 AM
Dang, her nose is out of focus....goes every which way!!!!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 03:48:42 PM
Can all the references to Sue Scheff be moved to The Troubled Teen Industry - since she is not affiliated with this thread and WWASPS?    You all are giving her a great marketing tool if parents happen upon this website - don't cha think?  

How did she get on WWASPS anyway?  Is she over at Aspen Education Group too?
Title: HONK! HONK! WATCH OUT FOR SUE SCHEFF'S NOSE JOB
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2006, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Dang, her nose is out of focus....goes every which way!!!!



Which of Sue Scheff's plastic surgery 'nose jobs' are you referring to?  True story.  Maybe her nose jobs will be a chapter in her new book about herself, the book that she says EVERYONE wants her to write.

AT HER WITS END

Chapter:  HONK! HONK!
Sue Scheff's Nose out of Joint

1. Which surgeon to use, OH MY?
2. Which of mommie dearest's bank account to dip into, SWEATING?  
3.  Or should Sue-Sue sell another ticket to a bad program?

honk! honk!
Sue Scheff, at her wits end again
Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2006, 06:54:14 PM
Why would anyone need more than one nose job, if Sou Chef did in fact have more than one?
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Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
You'll just have to read Sue Scheff's book that EVERYONE IN AMERICA wants her to write.  It's all about SUE SCHEFF because EVERYONE wants to know about Sue Scheff.  She is calling it, "At my Wits End."  

Chapter One:  HONK! HONK!  Bad nose job.

Sample:  "I was at my wits end when I looked in the mirror and ask this question.  Are you ready?

Mirror, Mirror on the wall......."

But the book at Amazon and find out what happens.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2006, 08:20:09 PM
who the fuck wants to buy and read that trash? are you infatuated or something?
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Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2006, 08:01:43 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
who the fuck wants to buy and read that trash? are you infatuated or something?


Are you jealous of Sue Scheff?  Don't you know that EVERYONE LOVES SUE SCHEFF?  That's what Sue Scheff says so it must be true.
Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2006, 05:37:28 PM
Maybe Chapter 2 can be:

"What I Majored in When I Got My FAKE DEGREE at Some UnNamed College"

Maybe Chapter 3 could be:

"Why I Continued to Refer Children to WWASP: The Same Place That I CLam Abused My Daughter"

Maybe Chapter 4 could be:

"Why I Continued to Refer Children to Whitmore Academy: After the Sudweeks Were Being Investigated for Child Abuse"

etc...etc...

No wonder someone might be at her "wits end."
Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 11:26:45 AM
Jealousy is so ugly and is so obvious on this forum. Not just about Sue Scheff but about other people too. I guess when people have nothing better to do than to try to destroy the lives of others then - well - they have nothing better to do!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 11:47:31 AM
The controversy surrounding the for-profit referral industry is not grounded in jealousy, fool.  It is about protecting children and parents from the potential for exploitation and victimization at the hands of people who profit from the UNREGULATED, UNCREDIBLE, UNSAFE troubled teen industry.  Sorry if that irritates you so much but you are not the Fornits thought-control police.  :rofl:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Jealousy is so ugly and is so obvious on this forum. Not just about Sue Scheff but about other people too. I guess when people have nothing better to do than to try to destroy the lives of others then - well - they have nothing better to do!


I just think theyre crazy. (schizo)
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Jealousy is so ugly and is so obvious on this forum. Not just about Sue Scheff but about other people too. I guess when people have nothing better to do than to try to destroy the lives of others then - well - they have nothing better to do!

I just think theyre crazy. (schizo)


Well, you know the old saying ...

TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE!

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 12:40:54 PM
I think you're right ( the person that said "they're just crazy") probably a better word.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 12:57:37 PM
The crazy ones are the ones who think teens need programs, not parents.

And child/parent advocates who in their lust to kill the WWASPs helped to create an ever bigger pest.

 :roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 01:07:43 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Jealousy is so ugly and is so obvious on this forum. Not just about Sue Scheff but about other people too. I guess when people have nothing better to do than to try to destroy the lives of others then - well - they have nothing better to do!

I just think theyre crazy. (schizo)

Well, you know the old saying ...



Hmmkay... let me come down to your level before I reply...
I AM RUBBER
YOU ARE GLUE
WHAT BOUNCES OFF ME
STICKS TO YOU!


HA!
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 :roll:
Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 01:51:08 PM
Man, these trolls are getting more spastic by the day.  Maybe if we give them an extra large helping of REALITY BITES they will gorge themselves into oblivion?
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Man, these trolls are getting more spastic by the day.  Maybe if we give them an extra large helping of REALITY BITES they will gorge themselves into oblivion?


Get a life.  :roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2006, 04:56:27 PM
Never - not here!
:flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

 :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:

 :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:
Title: Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff Sue Scheff
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2006, 12:02:53 AM
Jealous of WHAT or WHO?

Some people acutally have a college degree.
Most people have  jobs that do not involve selling kids into programs where they will be abused.
Most people do not con or defraud people out of money as part of their daily profession.
Most people do not support known child abusers.
Most people are not admitted, proven liars.

Most people don't seem to have anything to be "jealous" about.

Who do YOU think they might be "jealous" of?
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Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2006, 12:18:32 AM
Most people don't tell kids they would be better off dead.

But people here do.

And that's not acceptable - I wish it were not acceptable here.

The way it was told was a kid who was in a program and who supports the program owners would be better off dead. What a horrible thing for someone to say? But it was said here and no one seems to care much, like it's acceptable and OK to speak that way about a child.

THis particular child was in the program, not the person who posted, which means the kid would have the most insight as to what happened there. And since he's been out for years now and is an adult you'd think he'd have figured it out by now. He made valid points. But his voice is shut down because the people on this forum won't let him speak his own truth.

Whatever. He's better off staying off this forum. Frankly, so am I. I was here several months ago and remember I was just as annoyed as I am this time. IT's not worth trying to share rational thougths here.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2006, 12:26:04 AM
NEXT!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2006, 12:36:52 AM
Why's this person reading and posting if fornits is so BAD?
On the Whitmore thread this GUEST was complaining about ANONOYMOUS posters, too.
Get a name yourself, GUEST!
Better yet, start your own forum.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2006, 01:13:58 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Why's this person reading and posting if fornits is so BAD?
On the Whitmore thread this GUEST was complaining about ANONOYMOUS posters, too.
Get a name yourself, GUEST!
Better yet, start your own forum.


 :wstupid:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2006, 11:22:32 AM
BECAUSE :

I still think it was wrong for Milk to say a kid (Shane) would be better off dead just because he was in a program (Whitmore).

Shane has a right to his story and his opinion.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2006, 10:17:45 AM
Shane told "his story" and said the Suds "saved his life" bla  bla bla; and asked the Whitmore posters to "cut the Sudweeks some slack."
The poster responded that Jared Eldridge, the prosecutor, has already cut Cheryl Sudweeks "some slack" by allowing this bitch to cop-a-plea to hazing.
Shane can post anything he chooses, as can Milk...as can I, as can you.
Who elected you the "thought police" or moderator of this forum?
You are jumping from thread to thread posting the same thing.

If you have figured it out by now: MILK speaks for himself and no one controls him.
If you don't like his postings-ignore them.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2006, 06:33:07 PM
I thought Sue Scheff and Robert Lichfield were the "thought police."
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Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2006, 07:03:32 PM
Who ever said the previous poster wasn't Sue Scheff?