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Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: mbnh31782 on September 19, 2007, 09:30:56 PM
Anyone have any thoughts on kidnation?  I think it borders on neglect and abuse of children
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2007, 09:36:44 PM
It's exploitation at its best!
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2007, 09:44:10 PM
havent seen it , is it on soon?
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: mbnh31782 on September 19, 2007, 09:44:54 PM
it debut'ed tonight.  8pm est.  check your local listings
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:06:03 PM
HOW DARE YOU JUDGE US!!!
WHAT MAKES YOU QUALIFIED TO JUDGE US AND TELL US THIS WAS ABUSIVE TO OUR KIDS?
YES I SENT MY KID I AM ONE OF THE NATION PARENTS. NO I CANNOT TELL YOU WHO WINS I AM UNDER CONTRACT NOT TO SAY ANYTHING BUT I CAN'T KEEP QUIET ABOUT THIS DISGUSTING HATE SITE.
OUR KIDS VOLUNTEERED AND HAD LOTS AND LOTS OF FUN. THEY WERE WELL SUPERVISED BY MANY NICE PRODUCERS SOME PARENTS EVEN STAYED IN A NEARBY TOWN ONLY A HOUR DRIVE AWAY IN CASE ANYTHING HAPPENED. THE KIDS HAD A WONDERFUL TIME AND ALL SAID THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE AGAIN. THERE IS ALREADY A SECOND SEASON IN PRODUCTION. SO YOU CAN HATE ALL YOU WANT BUT OUR KIDS HAD A GREAT TIME AND SO DID WE PARENTS.
I THINK YOU ARE ALL JUST JEALOUS YOU COULD NOT PARTICIPATE!
DID YOU SEND IN TAPES AND GET REJECTED?? THEN WHY TAKE YOUR ANGER OUT ON THE KIDS??
THIS SITE CLAIMS TO BE AGAINST CHILD ABUSE IN SECTIONS WELL WHY NOT THIS SECTION WHY ARE YOU HATING ON YOUNG KIDS THEY ARE NOT TEENAGERS. YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH TV. WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WATCH A TV SHOW JUST TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT? LOSERS LIKE YOU PEOPLE THATS WHO!!!
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: mbnh31782 on September 20, 2007, 08:10:17 PM
If thats your real name.. then i'm reporting you to CPS for child abuse and neglect.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:20:38 PM
OF COURSE THATS MY REAL NAME I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE LIKE YOU DO MBNH. I LIVE IN MEMPHIS MY ADDRESS IS 346 KNIGHSBRIDGE DR ST WITH A LIGHT AND TV ON COME OVER RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME OR HIDE BEHIND YOUR GOVERNMENT THUGS YOU WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST.
DON'T YOU READ THE PAPERS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CAN'T HANDLE FREEDOM AND THOSE WHO WANT TO SHARE FREEDOM WITH THEIR KIDS CALLED CPS AND TRIED TO GET THE ENTIRE SHOW OFF THE AIR. THEY FAILED AND SO WILL YOU BUT GIVE IT YOUR BEST. COME OVER AND I WILL SERVE YOU TEA AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS LIKE LADIES. INSTEAD YOU JUST COME OUT WITH A THREAD HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT? WELL MBNH WHATEVER YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE I DO NOT SCARE EASILY AND YOUR THREATS ARE MEANINGLESS TO ME.
BY THE WAY WHEN YOU CALL CPS AND TELL THEM YOU ARE CALLING FOR CBS NATION THEY WILL POLITELY ASK YOU TO HANG UP BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED SO MANY CALLS ALREADY. TV HAS A WAY OF BRINGING OUT THE WEIRDOS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THEY LAUGH AT PEOPLE LIKE YOU SO GO AHEAD. MY KID IS SITTING HERE LAUGHING AT WHAT YOU WROTE. HE IS BETTER FOR HIS EXPERIENCE AND HAD A FUN TIME IF YOU WERE OPEN TO NEW EXPERIENCES AND WATCHED WITH AN OPEN MIND YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT.
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING MBNH WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR NAME ARE YOU AFRAID SOMEONE WILL CALL CPS ON YOU FOR TAKING YOUR KID TO A PARK OR DO YOU HAVE A GUILTY CONSCIENCE?
I DID NOTHING WRONG IF MY KID THOUGHT I ABUSED HIM HE COULD FIND THE NUMBER TO CPS HIMSELF HE TOLD ME TO WRITE THAT.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Nihilanthic on September 20, 2007, 08:27:43 PM
Turn off caps, lady!
(http://http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/351/keyboard4mf0.jpg)
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on September 20, 2007, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
OF COURSE THATS MY REAL NAME I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE LIKE YOU DO MBNH. I LIVE IN MEMPHIS MY ADDRESS IS 346 KNIGHSBRIDGE DR ST WITH A LIGHT AND TV ON COME OVER RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME OR HIDE BEHIND YOUR GOVERNMENT THUGS YOU WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST.
DON'T YOU READ THE PAPERS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CAN'T HANDLE FREEDOM AND THOSE WHO WANT TO SHARE FREEDOM WITH THEIR KIDS CALLED CPS AND TRIED TO GET THE ENTIRE SHOW OFF THE AIR. THEY FAILED AND SO WILL YOU BUT GIVE IT YOUR BEST. COME OVER AND I WILL SERVE YOU TEA AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS LIKE LADIES. INSTEAD YOU JUST COME OUT WITH A THREAD HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT? WELL MBNH WHATEVER YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE I DO NOT SCARE EASILY AND YOUR THREATS ARE MEANINGLESS TO ME.
BY THE WAY WHEN YOU CALL CPS AND TELL THEM YOU ARE CALLING FOR CBS NATION THEY WILL POLITELY ASK YOU TO HANG UP BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED SO MANY CALLS ALREADY. TV HAS A WAY OF BRINGING OUT THE WEIRDOS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THEY LAUGH AT PEOPLE LIKE YOU SO GO AHEAD. MY KID IS SITTING HERE LAUGHING AT WHAT YOU WROTE. HE IS BETTER FOR HIS EXPERIENCE AND HAD A FUN TIME IF YOU WERE OPEN TO NEW EXPERIENCES AND WATCHED WITH AN OPEN MIND YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT.
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING MBNH WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR NAME ARE YOU AFRAID SOMEONE WILL CALL CPS ON YOU FOR TAKING YOUR KID TO A PARK OR DO YOU HAVE A GUILTY CONSCIENCE?
I DID NOTHING WRONG IF MY KID THOUGHT I ABUSED HIM HE COULD FIND THE NUMBER TO CPS HIMSELF HE TOLD ME TO WRITE THAT.


Patricia, I think people are a little bit sensitive about kids on this site, especially if the kids could be potentially exploited or abused  (its not a bad thing, its caring).  We dont have any inside information about the show or how the kids are treated.  Maybe you could help?

My question when I watched part of the show, was whether the children were in anyway distressed.  The reason I ask is because I saw a young boy (maybe 8 years old) who was concerned because he said something like:
“I’m not going to be with my parents. There’s no adults, and I think I’m going to die out here because there’s nothing.â€
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
OF COURSE THATS MY REAL NAME I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE LIKE YOU DO MBNH. I LIVE IN MEMPHIS MY ADDRESS IS 346 KNIGHSBRIDGE DR ST WITH A LIGHT AND TV ON COME OVER RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME OR HIDE BEHIND YOUR GOVERNMENT THUGS YOU WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST.
DON'T YOU READ THE PAPERS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CAN'T HANDLE FREEDOM AND THOSE WHO WANT TO SHARE FREEDOM WITH THEIR KIDS CALLED CPS AND TRIED TO GET THE ENTIRE SHOW OFF THE AIR. THEY FAILED AND SO WILL YOU BUT GIVE IT YOUR BEST. COME OVER AND I WILL SERVE YOU TEA AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS LIKE LADIES. INSTEAD YOU JUST COME OUT WITH A THREAD HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT? WELL MBNH WHATEVER YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE I DO NOT SCARE EASILY AND YOUR THREATS ARE MEANINGLESS TO ME.
BY THE WAY WHEN YOU CALL CPS AND TELL THEM YOU ARE CALLING FOR CBS NATION THEY WILL POLITELY ASK YOU TO HANG UP BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED SO MANY CALLS ALREADY. TV HAS A WAY OF BRINGING OUT THE WEIRDOS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THEY LAUGH AT PEOPLE LIKE YOU SO GO AHEAD. MY KID IS SITTING HERE LAUGHING AT WHAT YOU WROTE. HE IS BETTER FOR HIS EXPERIENCE AND HAD A FUN TIME IF YOU WERE OPEN TO NEW EXPERIENCES AND WATCHED WITH AN OPEN MIND YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT.
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING MBNH WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR NAME ARE YOU AFRAID SOMEONE WILL CALL CPS ON YOU FOR TAKING YOUR KID TO A PARK OR DO YOU HAVE A GUILTY CONSCIENCE?
I DID NOTHING WRONG IF MY KID THOUGHT I ABUSED HIM HE COULD FIND THE NUMBER TO CPS HIMSELF HE TOLD ME TO WRITE THAT.


Patricia, I think people are a little bit sensitive about kids on this site, especially if the kids could be potentially exploited or abused  (its not a bad thing, its caring).  We dont have any inside information about the show or how the kids are treated.  Maybe you could help?

My question when I watched part of the show, was whether the children were in anyway distressed.  The reason I ask is because I saw a young boy (maybe 8 years old) who was concerned because he said something like:
“I’m not going to be with my parents. There’s no adults, and I think I’m going to die out here because there’s nothing.â€
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on September 20, 2007, 08:35:54 PM
Nihiantic/ guest said:  "Question.

Was he a negro?"

This isnt the place for the racial prejudice,please stop, he wasnt jewish either I dont believe...
why do you do this?  We are talking about kids, let the woman speak.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:36:25 PM
NO CHILDREN WERE DISTRESSED IF THEY WERE THE PRODUCERS AND CAMERAMEN WOULD SHUT DOWN THE PRODUCTION AND STEP IN. WHAT YALL THINK THAT THE KIDS WERE FILMING THEMSELVES AND MAKING THE DECISIONS THEMSELVES AND MAKING IT UP AS THEY GO. SORRY TO BREAK IT TO YALL BUT REALITY TV IS SCRIPTED IT WAS LIKE A REGULAR TV SHOW.
ARE PARENTS WHO LET THEIR CHILDREN ON TV AND MOVIES ABUSIVE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE NATION PARENTS DID AND THAT IS ALL. YOU SEEM ALL TO BE VERY PARANOID ABOUT WHAT WENT ON AND NOTHING I CAN SAY WILL MAKE IT RIGHT WITH YALL. THE SHOW TOOK THE MOST DRAMATIC MOMENTS AND SHOWED THAT MOST OF THE TIME IT WAS VERY BORING. KIDS SAY THEY MISS THEIR PARENTS EVEN IF ITS SUMMER CAMP OR STAYING AT A FRIENDS HOUSE OR STAYING AT GRANDMAS IVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE AND SO HAVE ANY WOMAN HERE WITH CHILDREN THEY KNOW.
I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE COMING TO THIS HATE SITE WITH TALK OF NEGROS JUST BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE SOUTH DOES NOT MEAN THAT I AM RACIST. I LIVE IN A FULLY INTEGRATED COMMUNITY AND THAT IS A STERETYPE I WOUDLNT BE SURPRISED IF MOST OF YOU ARE COASTAL LIBERALS LIVING IN YOUR HIGH RISE CONDOS DRINKING YOUR APPLE MARTINIS USING YOUR IPODS TALKING ABOUT THOSE STUPID COUNTRY FOLK. MAYBE WE DONT HAVE AS MUCH MONEY TO TAKE OUR KIDS ON FUN VACATION LIKE YOU SO WE TAKE CHANCES LIKE THIS AND THE KIDS ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. IM SORRY YOU ARE NOT RIGHT WITH YOUR LIFE AND GOD AND CANT LET THESE KIDS HAVE FUN ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WILL STOP THE SECOND SEASON AND RUIN IT FOR THE NEW GROUP OF KIDS. IF YOU DIDNT NOTICE NATION WAS THE NUMBER ONE RATED SHOW LAST NIGHT SO GOOD LUCK GETTING RID OF IT. SURVIVOR HAS BEEN ON ALMOST TEN YEARS.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:40:30 PM
Can you please take off your Caps Lock? IT'S GETTING REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:44:20 PM
HAVE A NICE LIFE BYE. THE KIDS HAD A FUN TIME AND ALL WOULD DO IT AGAIN AND WITHOUT CBS HELP MY KIDS WOULD OF HAD NO VACATION THIS YEAR. I WILL HAVE A POT OF TEA ON THE STOVE WAITING FOR THE NICE CPS OFFICERS TO ARRIVE YEAH RIGHT THEY NEVER WILL SHOW UP. I SHOULD SUE YOU FOR HARRASSMENT IF YOU YOU PULL SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO GO AHEAD I NEED THE MONEY MY KID WANTS TO GO ON A VACATION NEXT YEAR NOW HE IS KIND OF SPOILED BECAUSE OF ALL THE ATTENTION BUT I STILL LOVE HIM AND I AM GLAD HE HAD SUCH A WONDERFUL TIME. WHY DO YOU WANT TO PUNISH PARENTS FOR ALLOWING THEIR CHILDREN TO HAVE A FUN VACATION. GO TO CHURCH IT HELPED ME AND REMEMBER THAT JESUS LOVES YOU. GO WITH THE LORD AND BE PEACEFUL HAVE A NICE LIFE BYE.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on September 20, 2007, 08:44:56 PM
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
NO CHILDREN WERE DISTRESSED IF THEY WERE THE PRODUCERS AND CAMERAMEN WOULD SHUT DOWN THE PRODUCTION AND STEP IN. WHAT YALL THINK THAT THE KIDS WERE FILMING THEMSELVES AND MAKING THE DECISIONS THEMSELVES AND MAKING IT UP AS THEY GO. SORRY TO BREAK IT TO YALL BUT REALITY TV IS SCRIPTED IT WAS LIKE A REGULAR TV SHOW.
ARE PARENTS WHO LET THEIR CHILDREN ON TV AND MOVIES ABUSIVE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE NATION PARENTS DID AND THAT IS ALL. YOU SEEM ALL TO BE VERY PARANOID ABOUT WHAT WENT ON AND NOTHING I CAN SAY WILL MAKE IT RIGHT WITH YALL. THE SHOW TOOK THE MOST DRAMATIC MOMENTS AND SHOWED THAT MOST OF THE TIME IT WAS VERY BORING. KIDS SAY THEY MISS THEIR PARENTS EVEN IF ITS SUMMER CAMP OR STAYING AT A FRIENDS HOUSE OR STAYING AT GRANDMAS IVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE AND SO HAVE ANY WOMAN HERE WITH CHILDREN THEY KNOW.
I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE COMING TO THIS HATE SITE WITH TALK OF NEGROS JUST BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE SOUTH DOES NOT MEAN THAT I AM RACIST. I LIVE IN A FULLY INTEGRATED COMMUNITY AND THAT IS A STERETYPE I WOUDLNT BE SURPRISED IF MOST OF YOU ARE COASTAL LIBERALS LIVING IN YOUR HIGH RISE CONDOS DRINKING YOUR APPLE MARTINIS USING YOUR IPODS TALKING ABOUT THOSE STUPID COUNTRY FOLK. MAYBE WE DONT HAVE AS MUCH MONEY TO TAKE OUR KIDS ON FUN VACATION LIKE YOU SO WE TAKE CHANCES LIKE THIS AND THE KIDS ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. IM SORRY YOU ARE NOT RIGHT WITH YOUR LIFE AND GOD AND CANT LET THESE KIDS HAVE FUN ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WILL STOP THE SECOND SEASON AND RUIN IT FOR THE NEW GROUP OF KIDS. IF YOU DIDNT NOTICE NATION WAS THE NUMBER ONE RATED SHOW LAST NIGHT SO GOOD LUCK GETTING RID OF IT. SURVIVOR HAS BEEN ON ALMOST TEN YEARS.


Patricia, you have a very good opportunity to educate us on how these shows work.  There are many parents who view this site and are interested in someone who had a child on television.  Your input could ease their fears that the parents and children are not being used.  

This site has very opinionated people on it, but they are also interested in the safety of children.  If you care about that you could stick around and answer some questions for the parents/viewers.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on September 20, 2007, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
HAVE A NICE LIFE BYE. THE KIDS HAD A FUN TIME AND ALL WOULD DO IT AGAIN AND WITHOUT CBS HELP MY KIDS WOULD OF HAD NO VACATION THIS YEAR. I WILL HAVE A POT OF TEA ON THE STOVE WAITING FOR THE NICE CPS OFFICERS TO ARRIVE YEAH RIGHT THEY NEVER WILL SHOW UP. I SHOULD SUE YOU FOR HARRASSMENT IF YOU YOU PULL SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO GO AHEAD I NEED THE MONEY MY KID WANTS TO GO ON A VACATION NEXT YEAR NOW HE IS KIND OF SPOILED BECAUSE OF ALL THE ATTENTION BUT I STILL LOVE HIM AND I AM GLAD HE HAD SUCH A WONDERFUL TIME. WHY DO YOU WANT TO PUNISH PARENTS FOR ALLOWING THEIR CHILDREN TO HAVE A FUN VACATION. GO TO CHURCH IT HELPED ME AND REMEMBER THAT JESUS LOVES YOU. GO WITH THE LORD AND BE PEACEFUL HAVE A NICE LIFE BYE.


Patricia, you must be proud of your child for being selected.  He/she must have really stood out during tryouts or do they call it auditions?  Did they chose mostly kids who were outgoing?  or all different types?

Was you child outgoing?  Did he/she always want to be on television?  Just curious......
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE COMING TO THIS HATE SITE WITH TALK OF NEGROS


::both::

Another fucking abusive parent.

Contrary to your own delusional beliefs, you are actually a self admitted child-abuser.

I hope CPS investigates the show and locks up all the parents and places the children involved in better families.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 08:58:29 PM
<3 trolls.

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

BUT EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL NEED TO STEER
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on September 20, 2007, 09:02:25 PM
Niles, why do you have to bring the racial and religous hatred into it all the time...

join the KKK if you have to and spout off at the meeetings, but gives us a break from it, you are not helping your cause by doing this.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: mbnh31782 on September 20, 2007, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
OF COURSE THATS MY REAL NAME I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE LIKE YOU DO MBNH. I LIVE IN MEMPHIS MY ADDRESS IS (edited for the protection of YOUR child) WITH A LIGHT AND TV ON COME OVER RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME OR HIDE BEHIND YOUR GOVERNMENT THUGS YOU WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST.

I don't doubt that you have all the amenities of living comfortably in today's society.  If I recall, you were the one who came on here and blasted an opinion with your poorly written post.  You signed over your childs sanity and safety over to CBS media.  You took an inherent risk on your childs life by allowing them to place your child in a dangerous situation.  You placed your responsibility to protect and nurture your child on the shelf and KNOWINGLY placed your child in danger.

Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
DON'T YOU READ THE PAPERS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CAN'T HANDLE FREEDOM AND THOSE WHO WANT TO SHARE FREEDOM WITH THEIR KIDS CALLED CPS AND TRIED TO GET THE ENTIRE SHOW OFF THE AIR. THEY FAILED AND SO WILL YOU BUT GIVE IT YOUR BEST. COME OVER AND I WILL SERVE YOU TEA AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS LIKE LADIES. INSTEAD YOU JUST COME OUT WITH A THREAD HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT? WELL MBNH WHATEVER YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE I DO NOT SCARE EASILY AND YOUR THREATS ARE MEANINGLESS TO ME.

I do read the paper, quite regularly.  I don't know what your trying to insinuate by asking me if I read a newspaper.  There are more appropriate ways to give your child "freedom" as you have stated.  Try allowing your child to attend a supervised summer camp.  Encourage your child to join a youth group and go on a mission trip to a foreign country.  Inspire your child to start a Habitat for Humanities project.  All of these things can be done safely without placing your child in a dangerous situation.  I appreciate the invitation for tea, however I cannot accept the invite.  I did not know you prior to starting the thread.  You were not a presence on these forums prior to said thread.  I do not have anything to hide, however I seem to have more common sense than you.  They used to sell commonsense by the barrel, but now the price of commonsense has gone up due to the lack of commonsense people seem to have.


Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
BY THE WAY WHEN YOU CALL CPS AND TELL THEM YOU ARE CALLING FOR CBS NATION THEY WILL POLITELY ASK YOU TO HANG UP BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED SO MANY CALLS ALREADY. TV HAS A WAY OF BRINGING OUT THE WEIRDOS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THEY LAUGH AT PEOPLE LIKE YOU SO GO AHEAD. MY KID IS SITTING HERE LAUGHING AT WHAT YOU WROTE. HE IS BETTER FOR HIS EXPERIENCE AND HAD A FUN TIME IF YOU WERE OPEN TO NEW EXPERIENCES AND WATCHED WITH AN OPEN MIND YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT.

It seems to me that there is only one person with a closed mind who cannot seem to handle debate on an issue.  I pray that nothing serious happens to your child in the future.

Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING MBNH WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR NAME ARE YOU AFRAID SOMEONE WILL CALL CPS ON YOU FOR TAKING YOUR KID TO A PARK OR DO YOU HAVE A GUILTY CONSCIENCE?
I DID NOTHING WRONG IF MY KID THOUGHT I ABUSED HIM HE COULD FIND THE NUMBER TO CPS HIMSELF HE TOLD ME TO WRITE THAT.


I've already stated I have nothing to hide.  I just have more commonsense not to post my name and address on the internet where any pedophile or internet predator could find it.  Congratulations, you've just exposed yourself and your child to another danger.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on September 20, 2007, 09:08:07 PM
mbnh31782, you should have given Patricia a chance to talk and held your tongue.  We all know what everyone thinks here....  what we dont know is how children on shows like this are treated and we had an opportunity to find out from someone who had a child on the show.

I think some of us would have been interested to hear Patricia's side of the story.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 09:09:07 PM
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
JESUS LOVES YOU.


JESUS HATES YOU CUNT
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: mbnh31782 on September 20, 2007, 09:09:31 PM
of course i'm interested in her side of the story.  I responded very politely.  I only hope she can debate the issue and share some insight.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Nihilanthic on September 20, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Niles, why do you have to bring the racial and religous hatred into it all the time...

join the KKK if you have to and spout off at the meeetings, but gives us a break from it, you are not helping your cause by doing this.


That wasn't me.

I call people jews, you stupid nigger  :rofl:
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
JESUS LOVES YOU.

JESUS HATES YOU CUNT



Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 09:11:55 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
what we dont know is how children on shows like this are treated and we had an opportunity to find out from someone who had a child on the show.


But we can't trust parents to give accurate information of how their children were treated, Who.

You are proof positive of that.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 09:13:34 PM
OUCH!!!!
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2007, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: ""PATRICIA LAROUCHE""
HAVE A NICE LIFE BYE. THE KIDS HAD A FUN TIME AND ALL WOULD DO IT AGAIN AND WITHOUT CBS HELP MY KIDS WOULD OF HAD NO VACATION THIS YEAR. I WILL HAVE A POT OF TEA ON THE STOVE WAITING FOR THE NICE CPS OFFICERS TO ARRIVE YEAH RIGHT THEY NEVER WILL SHOW UP. I SHOULD SUE YOU FOR HARRASSMENT IF YOU YOU PULL SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO GO AHEAD I NEED THE MONEY MY KID WANTS TO GO ON A VACATION NEXT YEAR NOW HE IS KIND OF SPOILED BECAUSE OF ALL THE ATTENTION BUT I STILL LOVE HIM AND I AM GLAD HE HAD SUCH A WONDERFUL TIME. WHY DO YOU WANT TO PUNISH PARENTS FOR ALLOWING THEIR CHILDREN TO HAVE A FUN VACATION. GO TO CHURCH IT HELPED ME AND REMEMBER THAT JESUS LOVES YOU. GO WITH THE LORD AND BE PEACEFUL HAVE A NICE LIFE BYE.


Patricia please visit my fan site, I love the show!

WWW.whoomp.ORG (http://WWW.whoomp.ORG)
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on September 20, 2007, 09:15:28 PM
Patricia, I appologize for the reception you recieved.  I would be interested in your story and that of your child.  If you have time you could email me.

Not everyone has the same opinion and I am interested in speaking with you from a professional view point....
So if you are interested write me.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on September 20, 2007, 09:17:42 PM
Never watched the show, I'm not sure I will? This Mom Patricia has some nerve. With an attitude like that, no wonder she sent her kid off to some Reality TV show. What a freaky lady. No, really she's a freak! I wanna hear from the kid.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 20, 2007, 09:34:29 PM
Lady I'm from the south, the deep deep south so don't come here acting like you know how we live. First this is website of survivors of institutionalized abuse. Folks here have been through hells you couldn't even imagine. Second we are far from jealous of you and your poor decision making, no one here wanted or wants to be on a show that exploits children for ratings. For your information the outrage expressed by people like us has lead to shows such as this one to be shut down in this country, like brat camp. Folks with a half a brain understand that these shows that sell tears and humiliation are not safe for children. We speakout and do put the blame, and rightfully so, on parents like you. You don't like? Too bad you made the choice, I do hope cps investigates all the participants of these kinds of shows and puts the hurt of broadcasting companies and parents who subject there children to this kind of exploitation. To think that fox would be fined millions for airing Janet's sexy bits while shows like this are given free reign is absurd.

Last, you idiot!!! Do not post you personal information on the Internet. Please email ginger and ask her to remove those sections of your posts that  reveal private information.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Nihilanthic on September 20, 2007, 11:15:03 PM
Also, TheWho is prone to doing underhanded attempts at trolling and derailing, such as implying I went off my name to say "negroe" instead of saying it on my own name, and for that matter, saying www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Sue_Scheff[/url] .

 ::boohoo::
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 03:49:52 AM
Quote from: "TheWho"

Patricia, I think people are a little bit sensitive about kids on this site, especially if the kids could be potentially exploited or abused  (its not a bad thing, its caring).  We dont have any inside information about the show or how the kids are treated.  Maybe you could help?

My question when I watched part of the show, was whether the children were in anyway distressed.  The reason I ask is because I saw a young boy (maybe 8 years old) who was concerned because he said something like:
“I’m not going to be with my parents. There’s no adults, and I think I’m going to die out here because there’s nothing.â€
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2007, 09:23:43 AM
Jesus loves me! He will stay Close beside me all the way; Thou hast bled and died for me, I will henceforth live for Thee.
(http://http://cgi.4chan.org/s/thumb/1190369938750s.jpg)
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Nihilanthic on September 22, 2007, 06:07:45 PM
(http://http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4281/niggerniggerniggerqm7.jpg)

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 23, 2007, 07:41:23 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "TheWho"

Patricia, I think people are a little bit sensitive about kids on this site, especially if the kids could be potentially exploited or abused  (its not a bad thing, its caring).  We dont have any inside information about the show or how the kids are treated.  Maybe you could help?

My question when I watched part of the show, was whether the children were in anyway distressed.  The reason I ask is because I saw a young boy (maybe 8 years old) who was concerned because he said something like:
“I’m not going to be with my parents. There’s no adults, and I think I’m going to die out here because there’s nothing.â€
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: sicktomystomach on September 25, 2007, 02:39:22 AM
How stupid is it to post your address and the fact that you have kids on an internet site? Could you PAINT a larger target of yourself???

Geez...
Title: Kid Nation
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2007, 07:54:08 AM
I am not done reading this thread, but I think I will post my opinion.  
I think patricia has gotten rather angry, and I understand your point.  I watched the entire premiere, and FYI, there was limited adult supervision by I want to say the producer.  They were not just completely left alone and I think some of the  posts are a bit radical.  I think there is controversy surrounding this show, but
if a parent wishes to allow their child to participate in something like this, then that is their business.  IF it is abusive, neglectful, or child exploitation, then it will be reported to the authorities.  
ow, the poster that wrote about the clip from the show this clip was taken out of context.  The show has kids from ages 8-15.  At any rate, he freaked when he realized that this was going to be a more difficult adventure than anticipated, and uon discovering that older kids would be the leaders.  

Halima
Title: Re: Kid Nation
Post by: TheWho on October 03, 2007, 08:59:03 AM
Quote from: ""Halima""
I am not done reading this thread, but I think I will post my opinion.  
I think patricia has gotten rather angry, and I understand your point.  I watched the entire premiere, and FYI, there was limited adult supervision by I want to say the producer.  They were not just completely left alone and I think some of the  posts are a bit radical.  I think there is controversy surrounding this show, but
if a parent wishes to allow their child to participate in something like this, then that is their business.  IF it is abusive, neglectful, or child exploitation, then it will be reported to the authorities.  
ow, the poster that wrote about the clip from the show this clip was taken out of context.  The show has kids from ages 8-15.  At any rate, he freaked when he realized that this was going to be a more difficult adventure than anticipated, and uon discovering that older kids would be the leaders.  

Halima


Halima, I understand where viewers could see that these kids are benefitting from being on this series and I also can see that some of these kids are having the time of their lives, but I have to disagree with your statement :â€
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2007, 09:30:10 AM
Paid Advocates are on site to assure, DEMAND the safety and well-being of ANIMALS when filming movies and TV!!!!!!!!!!
Yet, these children have not been provided with responsible adults to assure their safety and well-being?
We care more about horses, dogs, cats, etc; than we do our own children?
GMAFB.

http://www.americanhumane.org/site/Page ... me=pa_film (http://www.americanhumane.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pa_film)
Title: Re: Kid Nation
Post by: Deborah on October 03, 2007, 10:49:04 AM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
You went on to say:  â€œIF it is abusive, neglectful, or child exploitation, then it will be reported to the authorities. “  This may or may not be true and the problem with reporting systems is it is reactive (i.e. the abuse, neglect, exploitation has already occurred).  The reporting system, although may be good, they are designed to inform people that events have already occurred not to prevent them.  So I don’t put too much faith in reporting systems to keep children safe.

The parents are the ones who are responsible for the safety of their children…. My question is/was, are the parents on location to insure their kids feel safe and are kept safe?  If they are not then there needs to be an independent child advocate who is not benefitting from the profits of the show to oversee the treatment and safety of these children.  I think you will see many people over react but that is because we don’t know if these kids are safe or not and until such time I will continue to ask these questions.


That same rationale applies to programs.
Title: Re: Kid Nation
Post by: TheWho on October 03, 2007, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
You went on to say:  â€œIF it is abusive, neglectful, or child exploitation, then it will be reported to the authorities. “  This may or may not be true and the problem with reporting systems is it is reactive (i.e. the abuse, neglect, exploitation has already occurred).  The reporting system, although may be good, they are designed to inform people that events have already occurred not to prevent them.  So I don’t put too much faith in reporting systems to keep children safe.

The parents are the ones who are responsible for the safety of their children…. My question is/was, are the parents on location to insure their kids feel safe and are kept safe?  If they are not then there needs to be an independent child advocate who is not benefitting from the profits of the show to oversee the treatment and safety of these children.  I think you will see many people over react but that is because we don’t know if these kids are safe or not and until such time I will continue to ask these questions.

That same rationale applies to programs.


It would be nice to have an independent person there but I dont think it is as crtical because the producers and cameramen are trained in and are being paid to make a movie where as in a TBS or wilderness the staff are trained and being paid to look after the kids, so there are many people looking after their welfare and needs.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2007, 02:41:56 PM
Not really.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: mbnh31782 on October 03, 2007, 04:30:51 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Not really.


can you elaborate on this? or are you under threat of contract.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2007, 07:57:18 PM
if you pay someone 18k a year it  doesn't makes them care about the twenty kids under their care. most of them are on meth anyways or kids right out of college who last a months. them and the meth and losers basically it.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: TheWho on October 03, 2007, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
if you pay someone 18k a year it  doesn't makes them care about the twenty kids under their care. most of them are on meth anyways or kids right out of college who last a months. them and the meth and losers basically it.


Thanks for bring this up………I hear you and that applies in any position…if you are a doctor or nurse, lawyer or whatever it is that you do for a living and you are hooked on meth you are not going to be very effective and your job and people around you will suffer.

If on the other hand you hire kids out of college who are pursuing (and excited about) a career in the mental health field ( specifically children), pay them a decent starting salary, let them gain some experience while being overseen by a licensed therapist then it is a win-win situation and I’ll tell you, the kids just love it.  The staff is close in age to these kids and can relate more.  More schools are taking a look at this.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: try another castle on October 03, 2007, 09:39:09 PM
What the hell happened to my post about Kid Nation with the daily show segment in it?

Here it is again.




I would totally watch kid nation if it had mudkips in it.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 04, 2007, 09:04:58 PM
Quote from: ""try another castle""
What the hell happened to my post about Kid Nation with the daily show segment in it?

Here it is again.




I would totally watch kid nation if it had mudkips in it.


Welcome to the fold!

(http://http://home.comcast.net/~matheauphillips/Mudkip.png)
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: try another castle on October 05, 2007, 02:32:52 AM
mudkipchan showed me the light... in my pants.

(http://http://encyclopediadramatica.com/images/7/70/Mudkipchan1.jpg)


Sure, she's an attention whore, but she's also nekkid and painted very weird.
Title: KidNation -CBS reality show
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2007, 02:47:53 AM
You don't have to be around these places very long at all to figure out that they are primarily after making money. The kids are merely a crop and the parents are the cows. These programs milk the parents for all they are worth.

I don't think these programs have a goal of being abusive. The abuse happens because they are focused on making money. The poor nutrition, the poor health care, and the poorly qualified staffing are all a function of the owners trying to make a lot of money. You aren't going to find a facility that pays the people who have 90% of the contact with the kids much more than minimum wage.

The brainwashing that goes on in these programs appears to be for the same reason that the Korean POW camps did it. It lets them control the prisoners with far fewer guards. The kids are brainwashed to be docile and easy to warehouse. If it just happens to cause then life-long trauma as a result, so what? The facility just added a bunch of money to their bottom line.

The people who run these facilities know there is no scientific evidence that residential treatment facilities have any long-term effectiveness. They do not care. They know that scientific evidence indicates that 75% or more of the kids incarcerated in therapeutic boarding schools suffer long term physical or emotional injury from it. They do not care. They make $1 billion dollars per year from maybe 14,000 kids. That is what they care about.