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As long as what is said is the truth, there is no libel.  In a court action, for a libel or slander suit to win, one side has to prove the allegation is false, or is unable to prove that it is true to the courts satisfaction.

If someone says something they know to be true (i.e. personal experience) the opposing side will have to prove that it is not true.

Courts are different in each state, although some basics are common to all.  There has to be a preponderance of evidence to prove a point.  The amount may differ from state to state.

A common demoninator to all is truth and evidence.  If it's true and you can prove it, they can't win.

That dosen't mean that they can't make life miserable.  A law suit can be filed at any time for any reason.  But filing doesn't mean winning.

My partner was sued for 40 million for causing great emotional embarassment to a dead body when he took photographs of the deceased at the Morgue when we both worked in the Crime Lab.  Case was filed, but that was as far as it went. (I understand the Judge got a big laugh out if it)

From personal experience, I tell people to make sure they spell the name right, and to remember that counter suits can be a B****.

If you're telling the truth, you can't be harmed.  Some people and organizations threaten and/or file law suits to intimidate people into submission.  It's called using the system.  Unfortunately this does happen.

Back in the 70's, a white supremacist group offered a large cash reward for anyone that could prove the Holocast really happened, that it wasn't a lie and the photo's weren't doctored.  One survivor challeneged them, went to court and showed the brand on their arm.  When the group couldn't pay up, the plantiff got themselves a "clubhouse" in lieu of cash.

A little off topic, but, the State of California says you can not sue a person for making a report of child abuse, unless it can be proven that the report is knowingly false.  Knowing how sue happy people are, the State also provides a fund to pay for attorney fees for people that are sued for reporting. To my knowledge, the fund has never been touched, but it shows that the State acknowledges lawsuits happen even when there is no basis for it or a law prohibiting it.

I can't speak for other States, but, according to the District Attorney's Office in my county, for a lander or libel law suit to go forward, a party has to show that they have been affected monetarily.  

I don't know where all the parties reside, but I would think an inter-state or international law suit would be expensive.

My best advice at this point, on this topic, is to not respond to the baiting.

What can anyone tell me about Safe Houses.  I've been told that these are off campus houses that people can request to go to when stress gets to much.

Any comments?

Where is this site located?

I'm real.  And I like to think I'm competent, and after 30 years, I think that answers the dedicated part.

I still would like to hear from any that have issues I can work with.  The assaults, sexual abuse and cruelty to animals are things I can work with.

I would like to hear from those who saw the carpet incident I have read so much about.

Once again, to verify my existence, call 411 and ask for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department, Twin Peaks Station.  Get the number and call.

I can't help if no one talks to me.

I am looking to contact student and/or staff that were at the Running Springs CEDU in 2001 to 2002.

There is an investigation underway into alleged sexual abuse that occurred during that time frame.

If you're aware of violations of the law that have occurred at that site, I would wecome hearing from you.

I have been reading this site for sometime now and have been waiting from the proper time to sign on.  Events have happened which make this the moment.  I have been referred to in past posts regarding CEDU.  As I am aware that everyone is concerned about the validity of posts and the author, I can be contacted by e-mail, or check the telephone directory for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department, Twin Peaks Sheriff's Station's telephone number.

I'm not making any promises, but if you have or had an issue with CEDU that violates state law, I want to hear about it.  Maybe WE can make a difference.

My investigation covers a period of late 2001 to early 2002 because those are the dates I have been given.  If I become aware of violations at different dates, I'm no longer locked in to those dates.

Help me help you.