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On 2003-09-11 15:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

" Can any body say they take this guy john and his fucked up opinions seriously? It is very annoying to me."

Take me seriously.
Don't take me seriously.
I don't care whether you do or not, since the odds are pretty damn good that I have never met you, Mr(s). Anonymous, and probably never will.

My opinions are merely my own, and I'm not ashamed to express them.  They are the only thing I have that I can truly claim as my own.
Sadly, too many people (both in this forum and out there in the rest of the big, bad world) can't make this same claim.

Remember that lemmings follow one another off that tall cliff into the sea to die for no other reason than they're following the one in front of them with no regard for why.
Think about it.

And if you don't like my opinions, then don't read them.
If you disagree with my opinions, then debate me with some semblance of intelligence.
If you agree with me, then we have common ground.
And if you find my (sometimes nonsensical) ramblings entertaining, then buy my next album.

On 2003-09-08 23:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Shit! How did this topic turn into this.  Can't we all just celebrate her coming out and congratulate her on her bravery?  



John,



It's great to hear that as a man receiving a compliment from a gay man you would be flattered. Unfortunately, others seem to feel threatened by it. Glad to hear it.  Who are you "blasting" anyway? What's with all the aggression?



If this is your coming out of sorts as "darque pervert", and that is the purpose of your post I would like to congratulate you as well, for your bravery, in letting us all know that you somehow relate to" animals," "dogs, cats, buffalo, and platypi," and for communicating your primary purpose on earth to everyone.  However, I didn't feel your apology to women about objectifying them is very sincere so please don't bother.  



NOTE: In general some people refrain from admitting "that they have sexual urges about someone else" or avoid publicly spewing their objectifications or perversions out of basic respect for women or others. Some people acknowledge the reality that most people just don't really care while others call it harassment.  



I like the word "fuck" just fine.  It's the juvenile referral to hiding the salami that's funny.

"

Bah.  Harrasment is one thing.  Receiving unwanted sexual advances is one thing.  But liking someone's breasts is another.  Sure, in certain circumstances, stating such would be inappropriate.
And my hostilities stem from the ignorant, lazy American masses that overreact to every stinking little thing. Nothing's changed since Kids.

I remember arriving in New Jersey immediately after this new set of "food rules" had been implemented there.  The same ones were set forth in El Paso before it closed as well, but at that point the group was smaller & tighter, so it wasn't a big deal.
You all in BC acted stupid about the whole thing, stemming from induced paranoia.

As I stated in the FIRST reply in this chain, gay, straight, black, white, green, plaid, drunk, sober, fat, skinny, tall, short, etc...  NONE OF IT MATTERS.
We're all human beings that were violated by one sick fuck known as Miller Newton.
Sorry, but being ANYTHING doesn't get you any special treatment from me, as that would make you unequal.

And as far as who I am and what I do.  Sure, I go by the nickname "Darque Pervert" online.  It's been my online name since the mid-90s.
You want a definition?  Here:
Darque is because I'm dark and brooding.  I think twisted things.  I laugh at the morbid, mostly mockingly so.  And the 'que' at the end is to ad an aura of phony class to the name.
Pervert is because my tastes tend to be different than most peoples, i.e. perverse.  Sexually, sure.  But that's not the whole of it.  IT's also in general living of my life where I see things with a strange and unusual bent, which some people find disturbing.

As long as women continue to get breast implants, liposuction, collagen & botox injections, then I'm going to objectify those women, period.  Sorry, but one doesn't get elective cosmetic surgery for the sole purpose of aesthetic improvement to NOT be objectified.  Couple that with miniskirts, navel piercings, half-shirts and whatever other 'sexy' form of attire is prevolant these days by women, and you've got some alluring creatures walking our streets.  That's NOT a complaint, mind you, but a fact.
It's just like painting your house or putting new rims on your car.  You're improving the looks so it can be noticed, plain and simple.

That is objectification in a nutshell.

On 2003-09-08 17:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

""Yes she was a cutie, let it go dude there are so many other woman out there you all sound obsessed as far as the gay girl is concerned good for you but your comments could very well be offending as a straight guy I wouldn't want some gay guy from kids posting his fantasies about me"





While the "gay girl's" post is perhaps a bit distasteful to post on the message board, saying someone's breasts are memorable seems a far stretch from a "fantasy," and I can only conclude that the fantasies are merely a fabrication of your OWN imagination, honey.  What your brain (and the other brains of other men who responded) did with her comment is not her fault.  Further, I find it amusing, and impossible to believe that you, as a man, have never objectified or sexualized any woman. I would imagine that to any woman hearing a comment like that from another woman would be much less threatening than hearing it from a man, any day, hands down.  Lastly, stop being SO HOMOPHOBIC.  This is not kids.  This is 2003.  This is not Kansas.  Your fears or insecurities are not some "gay guys" issue or hers, but yours, and yours alone. "

You now, if a gay man said that I was aesthetically pleasing to them, I'd be flattered.
Granted, that doesn't mean that I'm going to date the guy, let alone jump in the sack with him.
Looking good in someone else's eyes is ALWAYS a boost to my ego, since I think I look like a troll.  :smile:

And why are we so afraid to admit that we have sexual urges about someone else?  Especially in that hellhole known as Kids where we had nothing else to focus on (Newton wasn't capable of making us focus on ourselves, which was his treatment ideology)!  
We all thought so-and-so was a hottie.  As a guy, knowing all the sick bullshit that was owned up in guys' raps by everyone else was being matched in girls' raps as well.  

I remember days trying to pick out which girls' were the "dirtiest" (in my own vernacular) or most catering to my own perverse tastes...  

Sorry, ladies, but I objectified you.  Hell, I still do.  I'm not ashamed of it.  I'm a male of this species know as homo sapiens, and as a form of animal life walking this chunk of rock we call "Earth", my primary focus is to propegate.  I have to fuck to do that.
Don't like the word "fuck"?  Tough.  That's how we procreate.  Deal with it.
So I'm perpetually trying to find a willing mate to play hide the salami with.  I was when I was in Kids and I still am today, now that I'm married.  Granted, it's a LOT easier to find now that I'm married.  :smile:

And if any one of you tries to lay some bullshit on us that you're not like that or whatever, I'll tell you to your face that you're lying your ass off.  We're animals, like it or not.  We have the same gut instincts as dogs, cats, buffalo and platypi. Why do you think you didn't need any instructions when you first got laid?  INSTINCT, my friend.  It goes with being an animal.

Funny, though.  All the rude, crude, vile things we said & did both pre-Kids and in that place, and now you want to be all prissy and full of goodness & light?  Give me a break.

Gay, straight, black, white, brown, red, green blue, plaid, jew, christian, buddhist, agnostic, tall, short, skinny, fat, male, female, druggie, sober.....

They're all just fucking details that don't relaly matter all that much.  We all went through hell...

And I'm sorry that I never got to get that close to Carol's boobs.  They sound lovely.  :smile:

On 2003-08-01 11:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Your toungue should be ripped from your mouth or rather your fingers smashed with an ice axe for typing a thread titled "some fond memories of KIDS".  Just my opinion.  KIDS caused deaths of many and psychological disarray for even more.  No movie shown was a fond memory and no fun rap was fun.  



Call me bitter but there is no nostalgia when it comes to my memories of the program.  Only resentment for loosing my teen years to white walls, blue chairs, and Newtonian (I like that term, JohnO.) philosophy.



Jews don't recall the good 'ol days from Aushwitz, nor should program vets recall fond memories of the monster that stole years from the lives of teenagers.  



My opinion."

I disagree.  While overall the experience that was Kids was horrible.
There WERE friendships made and bonds that will never be broken. There were genuine good times, although coated with a veneer of requisite bullshit.

My favorite was the sole talent show.  Br**n N**l (RIP) & I did a news parody sketch.  We share the same dry, sarcastic wit.
Maybe it was cliquing or whatever...  

Perhaps it was just me desperately grasping onto anything positive and remotely enjoyable to avoid the miserable circumstances.  It's the same thing people do in times of war or when they're in prison...

I remember seeing that in El Paso as well.
It got shut off there when someone saw a character drinking Budweiser.  
Back when the movie was made, nobody cared whether a brand was shown in a film.  

And it's not a druggie movie.  If you like to laugh, it's a damned funny movie.  Rat Race (with Whoopie Goldberg & Rowan Atkinson) was based on this flick...

I give it: :tup:

Censorship is the first sign of a cult.  Restricting what you can see, hear, watch, & enjoy...

On 2003-07-25 06:58:00, a sibling wrote:

"...when I clicked on the link it brought me to a video store.  I'm very interested in this conference.  thanks!"

Try http://http://www.safetyintl.org
It was a typo in the original message.


[ This Message was edited by: John Olsakovsky on 2003-07-25 07:04 ]