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Open Free for All / Re: Tell us about the Third Nail
« on: June 09, 2010, 09:23:38 PM »
No offense, but can't at least some the "program mentality" also can be found in haranguing this Danny person while expecting him to talk about personal experiences and confess to wrongdoings? I  would not assume that your information is correct and Danny's wrong. These places are not transparent or honest about dates and practices. At the very least, anyway, I just wish some of the back and forth could continue in private . It would be great if you could find some way to work together for your common goals. Not that you have to, just that that would be more constructive than these endless "drama threads" and only as equally time consuming.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What do we call a programTeen student?prisoner?...
« on: June 06, 2010, 12:19:53 AM »
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...kidnap and imprison gulags are all descended from Synanon. In fact, the kidnap and imprison system was pioneered by Synanon. It was taken from Synanon to respective gulags still functioning today such as the Aspen Eduction Group cult. It reached Aspen through it's first generation spin-off CEDU.
Got any proof of that?

I respectfully beg to differ with that pat assertion. Synanon was small potatoes, my dear, when it comes to where all this started.

The United States government had already been experimenting with uses for therapeutic community modalities for at least a decade by the time Chuckie D hit the scene. In fact, he probably learned some of his trade from them. After all, he was an ex-con.

It can be proved for MOST gulag - cults. Synanon disciples can be traced through each gulag permutation back to the mother cult, or influence of disciples can be traced.

 Are you saying SOME gulags can be traced back to someplace that is NOT Synanon?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What do we call a programTeen student?prisoner?...
« on: June 06, 2010, 12:08:46 AM »
Quote from: "LonWoodburyMurdered"
Quote from: "DannyB II"
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The most suitable term is “detainee”

These terms portray citizens held in captivity without due process with the complicity of the state. The state is unaware that many of these “schools” have prisoners, but aware of the conduct of others. Also acceptable are “torture victims” for victims of the Synanon , CEDU and Aspen Education Group cult.

The proper term for Aspen Education Cult victim, Michael Reuben, son of John David Reuben (alleged to be whooter) is “corpse.” That is also the appropriate term for the approximately 1,000 other Aspen Education Cult murder victims, if we accept the projected suicide rate of thought reform victims, plus the roughly (at least) one murder victim a year who dies in Aspen from abuse.

 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao: From the highly respected members of fornits. Thank You....
We love the syndrome you are suffering from, "Chronic Hyperbole Syndrome".
Whether you know this or not, 90% of viewers here recognize your pathological biased opinions (fears) that are spewed everyday and we recognize where they come from, they usually are projections of your life, not necessarily verbatim but we get the picture. So as they say let the circus move on.

DANNY

Disengage from the endless cycle of internet rage posting that you and some others engage in here, do some research and get back to me. We’re on the same side, Danny. What happened to the guy who wanted to get the word out about Elan? Got distracted by flame wars? Maybe youre better than that?

You can start here:


http://motherjones.com/politics/2007/08 ... n-industry

The CEDU, Synanon, Aspen Education Group Cult, troubled teen industry in general, connection is quite corroborated. And so is being kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured, for that matter.


Why not disengage from the cycle of rage posting at random people, for petty reasons, that you & others engage in here, do some research and get back to me? We’re on the same side, Danny. What happened to the guy who wanted to get the word out about Elan? Got distracted by flame wars? Maybe youre better than that?

You can start here:


http://motherjones.com/politics/2007/08 ... n-industry

The CEDU, Synanon, Aspen Education Group Cult, troubled teen industry in general, connection is quite corroborated. So is being systematically tortured, kidnapped (teen escort, they call it) brainwashed, and held captive, for that matter.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What do we call a programTeen student?prisoner?...
« on: June 06, 2010, 12:02:44 AM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
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Quote from: "LonWoodburyMurdered"
The most suitable term is “detainee”

These terms portray citizens held in captivity without due process with the complicity of the state. The state is unaware that many of these “schools” have prisoners, but aware of the conduct of others. Also acceptable are “torture victims” for victims of the Synanon , CEDU and Aspen Education Group cult.

The proper term for Aspen Education Cult victim, Michael Reuben, son of John David Reuben (alleged to be whooter) is “corpse.” That is also the appropriate term for the approximately 1,000 other Aspen Education Cult murder victims, if we accept the projected suicide rate of thought reform victims, plus the roughly (at least) one murder victim a year who dies in Aspen from abuse.

 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao: From the highly respected members of fornits. Thank You....
We love the syndrome you are suffering from, "Chronic Hyperbole Syndrome".
Whether you know this or not, 90% of viewers here recognize your pathological biased opinions (fears) that are spewed everyday and we recognize where they come from, they usually are projections of your life, not necessarily verbatim but we get the picture. So as they say let the circus move on.

DANNY

Disengage from the endless cycle of internet rage posting that you and some others engage in here, do some research and get back to me. We’re on the same side, Danny. What happened to the guy who wanted to get the word out about Elan? Got distracted by flame wars? Maybe youre better than that?

You can start here:


http://motherjones.com/politics/2007/08 ... n-industry

The CEDU, Synanon, Aspen Education Group Cult, troubled teen industry in general, connection is quite corroborated. And so is being kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured, for that matter.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What do we call a programTeen student?prisoner?...
« on: June 05, 2010, 11:51:36 PM »
Patient wouldn't work because these programs provide a torture model, not a therapy model. That's because kidnap and imprison gulags are all descended from Synanon. In fact, the kidnap and imprison  system was pioneered by Synanon. It was taken from Synanon to respective gulags still functioning today such as the Aspen Eduction Group cult. It reached Aspen through it's first generation spin-off CEDU

And 3 generations post Synaon, its spin offs are still torturing, as investigators have corroborated. For example, the state found that ALL detainees of the Aspen Education Group cult gulag, MBA, were abused in the course of being subjected to the 'program model' of ritual sexual abuse, and psychological and physical abuse. It also found that no one licensed or qualified to treat adolescents for mental health issues worked at the "school."

Place to start research into the Aspen Education Group Cult offenses:
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2009/11/sch ... it-re-open
http://www.cafety.org/solutions-and-suc ... my-closing

""The investigation was conducted by the Office of Investigation and Training (OIT) at DHS. Investigators with OIT reported that ALL students at MBA were required to participate in "emotional growth" workshops, called Lifesteps, which included activities that were coercive, intimidating and humiliating -- including sexualized role play and reenactment of past traumatic events, such as prior physical or sexual abuse.""

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What do we call a programTeen student?prisoner?...
« on: June 05, 2010, 11:32:46 PM »
The most suitable term is “detainee”

These terms portray citizens held in captivity without due process with the complicity of the state. The state is unaware that many of these “schools” have prisoners, but aware of the conduct of others. Also acceptable are “torture victims” for victims of the Synanon , CEDU and Aspen Education Group cult.

The proper term for Aspen Education Cult victim, Michael Reuben, son of John David Reuben (alleged to be whooter) is “corpse.” That is also the appropriate term for the approximately 1,000 other Aspen Education Cult murder victims, if we accept the projected suicide rate of thought reform victims, plus the roughly (at least) one murder victim a year who dies in Aspen from abuse.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Chuck Selent [Advantage ISS Inc] talks about Caroline Wolf
« on: January 09, 2010, 05:22:09 PM »
Lon Woodbury and all CEDU cult members and apologists' continuing descriptions of CEDU torments as a inevitable product of an unenlightened period of medical understanding, a “dark age,” represent nothing more than an attempt to avoid accountability for their crimes, or their ongoing involvement with the CEDU murderers.

Medical science never recommended kidnapping people, imprisoning them without due process and brainwashing them to “help” them.

Human beings with shreds of decency were never confused about the ethicality of the above or its potential to “help”

The only people confused were child murderers like Caroline Wolf, Rudy Bentz, Steve Laird, Lon Woodbury and the rest of the CEDU cult.

Killers.. what you did was ALWAYS considered abuse. That’s why CEDU was shut down, and the world is universally horrified when hearing of what you did to the most vulnerable and blameless.

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