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Open Free for All / Re: Pocrov
« on: February 21, 2008, 11:05:39 AM »
http://www.pokrov.org/resource.asp?ds=Article&id=192

Fr. Cassian Newton: Criminal Investigations and Civil Suits

Author: Pokrov

Date Published: 5/16/2007

Publication: Pokrov

The information below is an excerpt from documents about Father Cassian Newton (formerly known as Virgil Miller Newton) prepared by International Survivors Action Commitee with help from Wes Fager and the Oakland Institute. Pokrov is grateful for their contributions of documents to our files.

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Open Free for All / Re: Is there something I can help you with?
« on: February 21, 2008, 11:03:58 AM »
Quote from: "Kansas Woman"
You dam well know why I am reading your posts.  You made the decision to get a user name and start posting and drawing links back to your blog from this fornits place.  You started this with your letter to the Kansas school board without any regard to others and how they may be affected.  I am so friggin steaming right now I am not even going to start to explain how I feel and why.  You kicked up the same friggin dust 2 years ago friend. My opinion is just as important as you will soon find out

I will try to write later after I calm down.


 :cry: :cry:


What. The. Fuck.  My letter to the Kansas school board???   My blog??   Holy shit, you're crazier than I thought.


 ::OMG:: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

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Open Free for All / Is there something I can help you with?
« on: February 20, 2008, 02:18:49 PM »
I see you reading through my posts and profile.  Can I answer some question for you?

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Robert Lichfield is a Gospel Doctrine Teacher???
« on: January 18, 2006, 08:09:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 17:03:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"This makes no sense to me! I mean come on!!! Are you fricken kidding me? Where can we all sign up to hear his interpertation of the Book Of Mormon? It's just wrong!



President/founder of WWASPS by weekdays.

Gospel Doctrine Teacher on weekends (sundays).



I don't think it could get any stranger!



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It goes way back.  Same game, different players.  Twisted isn't it?   http://thestraights.com/miller-newton-story.htm

Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat


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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / HLA vs The Seed
« on: January 18, 2006, 08:07:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 17:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Steve if I am saying its me what the fuck difference does it make to you? I am in the middle of something else and dont FEEL like logging in. that OK with you? Geez get over it already"


It really does make a difference to people who don't follow this forum daily but are still interested in the discussions.  It's much easier to follow the conversation and understand the context in which things are written and a basic background of the author.  Kind of a common courtesy thing if you're going to be posting regularly about a program or topic.

In a culture based on the oppressive notion that people should be exploited for profit most people can't afford to understand what happened to us in str8.

http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=2506' target='_new'>starry-eyed pirate


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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / HLA vs The Seed
« on: January 18, 2006, 07:50:00 PM »
I'd like to know more about this too.  It's just creepy how incestuous the whole damn industry is. :scared:

...because flapping your arms like a spastic parrot comes in handy in real life, doesn't it?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13146&forum=13&start=39#160158' target='_new'>Helena Handbasket


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Anchor Academy for Boys in Havre, Montana.
« on: January 18, 2006, 07:34:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 15:49:00, corecrash wrote:

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Yeah, yeah...so's my husband.  With three Emmys to his name.  Big deal.








Definitions of emmy on the Web:



an annual award by the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences for outstanding achievements in television

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn



3 Emmys is a fantastic accomplishment. I'm sure the folks that remember that they aren't musicians find it a very big deal.



I sure hope your assertions about Dennis are more accurate than that.

[ This Message was edited by: corecrash on 2006-01-18 15:51 ][ This Message was edited by: corecrash on 2006-01-18 15:51 ]"


Uh huh.  That's right.  He's been a musician since he was about 10, made a fair living at it for quite some time and has now been awarded three Emmys for Outstanding Achievement in Live Event Audio/Sound.

Did you have a point?  Since I'm treading into "your territory" now I'd like to know what it is you're trying to say.

Ya know, I've been pretty respectful of you.  You've baited and given your predictions on how people will respond to you all the while being a really self-righteous, condescending, sanctimonious ass.  As you seem to be so fond of saying, its not a very productive way to try and get your point across.

I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.
--Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Anchor Academy for Boys in Havre, Montana.
« on: January 18, 2006, 05:57:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 14:48:00, corecrash wrote:

"You should know that now you are moving to my territory, I'm a musician.

Yeah, yeah...so's my husband.  With three Emmys to his name.  Big deal.

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(Note: You have not called me a nsme, others have, I'm bulking you all together within one post. I have not seen you claim their methods are wrong yet).


Yeah, you are lumping us all together.  Don't do that.

I don't know if their "methods" are right or wrong (don't even really think they have a "method", think they're just stating how they feel).  I know they're completely justified in their anger.  I was just as angry for quite a while after I first began researching where all this shit came from.  You may not like it, but again, you don't have to read it.  You can choose to read and respond to whomever you choose.

We ought to be grateful that our government monopoly schools are such a failure. If today's 18 year olds could do arithmetic, they'd be out buying enough rope to hang everybody over 40.
--Alan Handleman on Social Security


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Anchor Academy for Boys in Havre, Montana.
« on: January 18, 2006, 05:34:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 14:00:00, corecrash wrote:

"Ahh..but that is where you are wrong. It is force fed. It's in many movies, radio stations, commercials, and venues.

Do you not have an on/off switch on your radio and TV?  Can you not change the channel?  Can you not decide which movies to see and not see?

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You just said it's some of the best music around, that tells me you support it and thus, my assumption was not wrong, so yea, I gained that from what you said.
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It is.  You should also look up some of the bios of some of the classical composers.  If you like their music you're most likely supporting drug use if you're gonna use those standards. :roll:

In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. Only one who knows the disastrous effects of a long war can realize the supreme importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close. It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war who can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
--Sun Tzu (author of The Art of War


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Anchor Academy for Boys in Havre, Montana.
« on: January 18, 2006, 05:14:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 14:10:00, corecrash wrote:


You are right, I do not, like any of the aboved mentioned people or organizations either. Interesting that you pulled out only Christians.



Nice..here comes the profanity we talked about earlier."


Oh, I'm sorry your poor virgin eyes.  :roll:  Come on!  I think I've treated you with quite a bit of respect and restraint!

I could have pulled out christians or any other group.  That was kinda the point.  What was yours?  Are you equating music with drug abuse?

For the most part we inherit our opinions. We are the heirs of habits and mental customs. Our beliefs, like the fashion of our garments, depend on where we were born. We are molded and fashioned by our surroundings.
--Environment is a sculptor -- a painter.


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Anchor Academy for Boys in Havre, Montana.
« on: January 18, 2006, 05:05:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 13:58:00, corecrash wrote:

"No one expressed it but I think its a VERY safe assumption that the majority of you listen to some form of music with people that struggle with drug addiction or abusive behaviors.



Are you seriously putting that forth as an argument for sending your kid away to a mindrape mill?
 

You're right, we should all be listening to Lawrence Welk, Perry Como and various selections of classical music.  

Talk about child molesters, have a look at the Catholic Church. You looking for abusive behavior?  Try Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson etc.  Corruption?  Joel Osteen, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart etc.  Take your strawman argument elsewhere, we ain't buying it.

Jesus Christ!  You can't be serious with this shit!   :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

History gives us a kind of chart, and we dare not surrender even a small rushlight in the darkness. The hasty reformer who does not remember the past will find himself condemned to repeat it.
--John Buchan


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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / Parents and the Lies HLA Told Us
« on: January 18, 2006, 04:53:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 13:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It is so sad, I have been on and off this site for about a year and have heard tons of horror stories from suppose kids who attended these programs.  Kids having sex with staff, kids being abused, kids committing suicide.  I started believing the stories and wondered if I should re think sending my daughter but The number one thing anyone would do is go to the authorities or have someone do it for them !!!  If it was me who was abused, I would want to see the bastard in jail, if for anything to protect the next kid going in.

  I am sure there were kids who were abused just like in any school, church or institution.  But it is obvious that most of this is bull, kids pissed off at the school because they were forced to study or did not finish.

You almost had me convinced......"


I would LOVE to see the sadists that were responsible for my abuse in jail.  It's not realistic though.  We're already pre-judged just by the mere fact that we were even sent to one of these places at all.  It's been extremely difficult to get anyone to pay attention to these claims because of statements and assumptions exactly like yours above "But it is obvious that most of this is bull, kids pissed off at the school because they were forced to study or did not finish

You have absolutely no clue how much damage these places actually do.  I "graduated" from my program and was proclaimed a "success" until I began to look behind the curtain.  All bets were off and I was just another drug-addled kid who just couldn't cut it.  One week earlier I had been toasted and boasted as a shining example of what the program could do.  Nothing about my behavior had changed, I just began to awaken from the fog.  Suddenly I found myself out of a home and family and being summarily dismissed as some disgruntled kid.

Same shit, different day.  :roll:  

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake when you make it again.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search?tag=circlofmiamithem&keyword=mark+twain&mode=books' target='_new'>Mark Twain


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy Expeditions
« on: January 18, 2006, 03:21:00 PM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/search.php?term=Catherine Freer &addterms=phrase&forum=all&sortby=p.post_time+desc&searchboth=both&submit=Search'>Catherine Freer

"Replace end user" (The Top Support Call Closer 10 Years Running)

--Bastard Administrator


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Anchor Academy for Boys in Havre, Montana.
« on: January 18, 2006, 01:49:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 10:39:00, corecrash wrote:


When they come here they get uneducated, unproven rhetoric from people that to this day continue to have problems and choose to blame everyone else.

No, they get the benefit of speaking to people who have been on both sides of the issue.  A good many of us have been incarcerated in these places AND we have kids.  Why do you insist that we've all "got problems to this day" and we "blame everyone else"?  Sure, I've got problems in life, everyone does.  Some of those problems are due to the abuse and neglect I endured in a warehouse, some are not.  I've also got a pretty decent life in spite of what I was subjected to.  That's due largely in part to finally being able to connect the dots to how the places work.


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You know, The ones letting their kids toke it up claiming they will be ok when they won't even be able to remember how to boil an egg let alone how to pass a drug test when they try to get a decent job.


Yeah, that no good eldest of mine who put me through hell for a couple of years is really having a difficult time.  :grin:



damn kids.....GET OFF MY LAWN!!  :lol:

Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist


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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Another WWASP death
« on: January 18, 2006, 12:19:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-18 09:14:00, Anonymous wrote:


Even if only one child is saved by that one program which is a good match for his or her problem, it is worth all the money they are charging.

If they document the success of this one child they may be able, in time, to apply it to others. "


Yeah, never mind the hundreds or thousands who've been severely damaged or even destroyed by these places.  Look!!!!  They helped ONE kid so it MUST be good and noble!  

WAKE UP!  :roll:

I wasn't raised Catholic, but I used to go to Mass with my friends, and I viewed the whole business as a lot of very enthralling hocus-pocus. There's a guy hanging upon the wall in the church, nailed to a cross and dripping blood, and everybody's blaming themselves for that man's torment, but I said to myself, 'Forget it. I had no hand in that evil. I have no original sin. Theres no blood of any sacred martyr an my hands. I pass on all of this.'
--Billy Joel, American musician


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