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Title: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 08, 2009, 12:25:57 AM
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monarch is a couple chill kids, more annoying kids, and for the most part- power hungry blood sucking faculty that worship themselves like royalty all confined to a relatively small area in some twisted attempt to manipulate and then proceed to train the minds of young people to accept the word of authority without hesitation. sorry if you went through the experience of reading my disgruntled thoughts but have a good day!

Oh hello there...

Believe me.. I'll be looking into it further.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Anonymous on April 09, 2009, 09:35:00 PM
Link please?
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 09, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
Facebook.. do a search on Monarch School

in one of the groups.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 15, 2009, 08:31:06 PM
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k so i have a ton of stuff to say about monarch...i will just summarize it here quickly..monarch school is an oppressive bureaucracy that specializes in the following, striking fear into the minds of adolescents to get them to do as told and carry out their rules when they are not there, exploiting the labor of said adolescents for their profit and to decrease spending, and gaining an overall sense of accomplishment when they make a kid cry or put that kid to work....overall monarch was a bunch of bullshit and i was only there for 7 months..if you want to hear more about what it is that i have to say just tell me and we can email or whatever it is that you wanna do

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Althogh I learned a few positve things at monarch (like having a strong work ethic and how not to be such a big baby lol), I faced frequent humiliation during 2-3 hour long groups where I was yelled and screamed at about how I made the school "unsafe" and basically that I was a horrible person haha. I am currently being treated by therepy to help me cope with the night terrors that I experience about still being at monarch, or that I am being sent back. I was connstantly on "work assaingment", pretty much being isolated in the woods all day, everyday for a month at a time, only to come inside for meals where I wasnt allowed to look, speak or ingage with anyone except for "older students" who didnt want anything to do with me anyway haha. I have been home for about 3 years, and I find that I am now overly sensitive to critisism, I cry easily and I feel that everyone thinks that I am a horrible person. This post is my experience in a nutshell, so please feel free to contact me if needed


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Prior to going to monarch, I didn't have much insecurity at all. In fact, I was almost never judging myself harshly. After being in several groups and faking the fact that I felt insecure about myself so I would not be criticized for not "being real," I began to notice that the more i faked it, the more these lies began to manifest into truth. ...  Read MoreUnfortunately, to a degree these thoughts have stayed with me since my Monarch experience which ended in December of 2007. However, I believe myself to be a lucky one- strong minded enough to resist the bulk of what was being imposed on us

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Ultimately the biggest problem I had with Monarch School is the fact that I did not have the freedom to express my thoughts openly. I was instructed as to who and what I was allowed to talk to, get involved with, and even look at. The minimal amount of control I had during my stay at Monarch, I believe made me an exponentially angrier person. To ...  Read Morethis day I have tons of anger towards that school and my family having to do with my treatment experience. My family and I continue to experience constant conflict even though my parents have apologized for making the mistake of sending me to Monarch. The source of anger is the fact that nothing can compensate for 19 months of my life being swallowed by intense emotional distress.

Sounds like a Cedu clone.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: try another castle on April 16, 2009, 01:32:05 AM
Im still wondering why Patrick changed his last name.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 05:24:59 AM
Dude.. details. I'm doing this for a reason and asked about possible CEDU connections down on the CEDU board for a specific purpose. Apparently someone wants to spring a kid out of Monarch. If you got something I'm sure they could use it.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: try another castle on April 16, 2009, 08:14:45 AM
I've got nothing. That's why I'm asking. Nobody here can seem to figure out what the deal is with the name change, whether it was for innocuous reasons or sinister. Liam, I believe, tried to contact him for the film, since he is mentioned by several students, but got no response. Everything I know is the same as what everyone else on this board knows... Stambusky (now McKenna) started the school. CEDU alum, CEDU staff at RS and ID. Rookey, who isnt there any more, RMA staff. Tim Earle, Dan Earle's brother. Don't know too much about him, except that he is Dan's brother.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 08:26:58 AM
So we have a confirmed Cedu Clone with a direct linage to RMA.

Steve Rookey springs a few rusty sprockets. I remember my brother telling me he was the champion of 'Blowing doors off' amongst the RMA cultists.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: try another castle on April 16, 2009, 08:28:45 AM
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
So we have a confirmed Cedu Clone with a direct linage to RMA.

Steve Rookey springs a few rusty sprockets. I remember my brother telling me he was the champion of 'Blowing doors off' amongst the RMA cultists.


yeah, and he has his own school now, too. should be in the cedu forum.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 09:20:50 AM
Transitions of Galveston Island perchance?

Either way it numbs my mind to think that guys like Steve can't go down to the bank and get a job as a teller or something. All they have to do is shave, shower, maybe put on a nice shirt and tie.

I guess they don't teach useful shit like that in the CEDU system.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: try another castle on April 16, 2009, 09:25:51 AM
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
Transitions of Galveston Island perchance?

Either way it numbs my mind to think that guys like Steve can't go down to the bank and get a job as a teller or something. All they have to do is shave, shower, maybe put on a nice shirt and tie.

I guess they don't teach useful shit like that in the CEDU system.


Not sure about a suit and tie. But he can do creepy fright drag.

(http://http://www.wholenotherthing.com/Images/cedu/steve.gif)



I personally think that steve would do great as a giant leprechaun. hyerr ta terr ta turr


oh yeah, heres his new school

http://www.venturesinpeace.com/index.html (http://www.venturesinpeace.com/index.html)
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 09:50:29 AM
hahahahahah... that's fucking scary. Either way I'm having the kids from Monarch take a look at Liam's doco to make some comparisons. They mentioned a workshop system called insights that sound similiar to what I described for RMA. (24 hour marathon sessions with no sleep and little food)
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: try another castle on April 16, 2009, 09:58:17 AM
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hahahahahah... that's fucking scary. Either way I'm having the kids from Monarch take a look at Liam's doco to make some comparisons. They mentioned a workshop system called insights that sound similiar to what I described for RMA. (24 hour marathon sessions with no sleep and little food)

Its exactly the same. Theres a CEDU thread with a monarch grad that talks all about it.


EDIT: wait, nm. here it is

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=27052&start=0 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=27052&start=0)
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 10:14:17 AM
I have no doubts of this, I just want them to confirm it for themselves rather than me asserting it with all my badassness.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 09:52:41 PM
http://http://www.monarchschool.com/pdfs/application.pdf

Jesus.. Look at this shit.. Particularly take a gander of their restraint policy..

28 pages of flaming crap.

But damn, "protect Monarch School Personell or others from threat of harm."

WTH?

Maybe I'm getting senile but back in the day it was restraint when someone is actively attempting to harm themselves or another. Not threatening, not when he/she has just finished, not maybe in 30 minutes, and definitely not for threatening it.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 09:54:14 PM
Exploitation anyone??

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MARKETING/PUBLIC RELATIONS RELEASE Initials _______ / _______
Monarch School (hereinafter “the school”) may from time to time find it useful in its efforts to promote its
programs or to disseminate information about the school to the public, to reproduce the likenesses of and provide
general information about students who are attending or who have attended its programs. I/We hereby authorize
and release the use of the likeness of and information about the above-named student for such purposes. Such
material may be in printed, photographic, electronic, or digital form. It is understood that the student will not be
identified by full name or full address in such information without the additional consent of the undersigned.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on April 16, 2009, 10:02:35 PM
We'll tinker with.

Guineau pig with.

Your kid

Cameras rolling of course -

And when it suits us just fine we'll spin doctor some teen development alchemy propaganda piece.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 10:08:52 PM
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Steve Rookey had a weekly quota per how many students he was going to "blow away."  There were several times this  took place in the dining hall during meals.  Students could make a strong argument that he was verbally abusive to students.

This came from my brother who doesn't like posting on fornits.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on April 16, 2009, 10:30:54 PM
Roger that.

Although, weekly quota would suggest some sort of rational approach.

Rookie came straight out of the Spokane restaurant scene.

Interviewed with RMA after he felt a 'hey, I've got a wild hair up ass - let's save the world tomorrow' notion.
 
Took a kitchen job at RMA.

Spent time working the Kitchen. Rose to master culinary rookmeister.

Rose to family counselor. Rose to family head. Rose to school head.

And finally rose to Monarchy.

Back to the original point - Rookie was/is on a 24/7 scorched earth power trip.

Damaged teenage goods bow down.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 10:48:36 PM
Damn... All the way from Denny's to head door blower offer.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on April 16, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
HIs Moons over thy hammy
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 10:54:03 PM
Hey dish.. can you do me a favor and anon call Monarch acting as a parent to get their license information? Find out if it is through the Montana Public Health Office as that is a separate organization than whatever it is they cooked up for private schools a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on April 16, 2009, 10:55:34 PM
Sure. But didn't you just blow my cover?
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 10:58:49 PM
Be creative and post the results. Try the old, "OMG MY KID IS HIGH ON CRYSTAL METH! WHEN CAN I GET HIM IN? DO YOU HAVE PAYMENT PLANS? OMG! OMG! HE HAS AN AXE! WHO IS YOUR SCHOOL LICENSED THROUGH?"
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on April 16, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
Shawk n Awe
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 11:04:34 PM
Seriously.. Programmies aren't that bright. Remember the howling match over Magnolia? That went down in part because someone called up and pretended to be a parent.

Old Judge Roy Bean, his screen name on anti-wwasp, openly admitted to paddling the kids over the phone, feeding them left overs from a near by golden corral, and to being a former employee of WWASP.

On the phone.. to a perfect stranger..

They can't afford to not give out this information to parents as they might be turning away a prospective customer.

Honestly.. I think it would be a great way to fuck with programs. Keep calling them for information requests and laughing about it on the net.

Just not Monarch, yet....
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on April 16, 2009, 11:07:19 PM
so you need me to buy you alcohol or not?
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 16, 2009, 11:08:44 PM
Yes my son.. by me the booze.. and make the call.. Do it now.. Emergency.. We used to get late night panic calls at 3 springs all the time.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: sek on April 17, 2009, 02:28:24 PM
i went to monarch and can confirm that it is for all intensive purposes a cedu clone (based on what I've read about cedu) down to minute details, such as naming buildings after buildings at cedu and RMA. Almost all of the language is the same. The insights are basically the same as the profeets, and many staff either went to CEDU, worked at CEDU or affiliates such as RMA.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 18, 2009, 08:55:55 AM
Can you scan and post any docs you have so we can archive them? If CEDUWatch.net gets off the ground part of the mission will be to create a wiki of such documents.
Title: Re: Not all is well in Monarch School?
Post by: Che Gookin on April 21, 2009, 12:44:44 AM
Good tip from my research staff(Bro)!

Runnel Hanson, founder of Monarch or a founder, worked the RMA front office. Another piece of the puzzle put in place.

Anyone have some juicy information on ol' Runnel? The research department(the bro) suggests that she probably is best known for orally satisfying Rob Spears, but in the absence of hard information makes me skeptical of this claim.

Pics or it never happened!