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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: CCM girl 1989 on October 10, 2007, 09:23:27 PM

Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 10, 2007, 09:23:27 PM
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Seventeen-year-old disappears in LaVerkin
By TIFFANY DE MASTERS
[email protected]

LAVERKIN - A 17-year-old girl disappeared Saturday afternoon in La Verkin, according to the LaVerkin Police Department.

Jessi Graff was at her job at Farmer's Market when she left in the middle of her shift at about 3 p.m., according to police.

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An "attempt to locate" was issued two hours after her disappearance.
"She went outside to bring in carts and never came back," said Chief Lloyd Watkins, of the LaVerkin Police Department.

Watkins said most of their indications show Graff left voluntarily, but they aren't taking any chances.

"We want to cover all our bases," he said.

If anyone has information on Graff, they can call dispatch at 634-5730 or the LaVerkin Police Department at 635-0427.


She went missing on 10/06/07


She was not front page news. Since she attended Cross Creek Manor she is just considered a runaway at this point, but nobody knows for sure. I feel if it was a girl that was not in the program it would've been front page news. I really hope this girl is found alive.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Che Gookin on October 10, 2007, 09:32:55 PM
Alive and in Mexico with a drink in hand and a largish middle finger extended at Cross Creek Manor and her asshole parents.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 10, 2007, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: ""Wandering Waygookin""
Alive and in Mexico with a drink in hand and a largish middle finger extended at Cross Creek Manor and her asshole parents.



We hope, but we don't know.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 10, 2007, 09:57:04 PM
Nah, she needs to go to CCM's "good program".
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: TheWho on October 10, 2007, 10:00:08 PM
I dont think you will get much response or help here for a child gone missing from a program, CCM.  If the child was abuse by the program we would be on our 8th page by now, but missing....who cares... the longer the better especially if it makes the program look bad.

Bottom line is that many here dont care about the kids welfare unless they can be used to make the program/school look bad.  If people here can figure out an angle to use this against the school then you got yourself some interest...

I will be interested to see how this goes.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 10, 2007, 10:00:10 PM
Niles, I just want you to know what a heartless jerk I think you are. I totally voted for us all to get together for a party on your stupid poll. I will only come though if we use you as a pinyata! I just want to take a bat, and swing at you my friend.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 10, 2007, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
I dont think you will get much response or help here for a child gone missing from a program, CCM.  If the child was abuse by the program we would be on our 8th page by now, but missing....who cares... the longer the better especially if it makes the program look bad.

Bottom line is that many here dont care about the kids welfare unless they can be used to make the program/school look bad.  If people here can figure out an angle to use this against the school then you got yourself some interest...

I will be interested to see how this goes.


Thanks Who, you are totally right.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 10, 2007, 10:03:27 PM
Clearly nobody has a fucking sense of humor.

IM DRUNK OK.

God.

Do I type in all caps ( THE ENTIRE POST) usually? shit. Spell check is the only reason this makes any sense. I love firefox.

And you're still full of shit with your "Good program" thing. Its either a program or its not, even my drunk ass knows that.

Go bottoms up already. Either a beer bottle or over a p ool table.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 10, 2007, 10:06:49 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
I dont think you will get much response or help here for a child gone missing from a program, CCM.  If the child was abuse by the program we would be on our 8th page by now, but missing....who cares... the longer the better especially if it makes the program look bad.

Bottom line is that many here dont care about the kids welfare unless they can be used to make the program/school look bad.  If people here can figure out an angle to use this against the school then you got yourself some interest...

I will be interested to see how this goes.

Thanks Who, you are totally right.


I swear to god you two are as easy to troll as a burn victim with a flamethrower and a marshmallow with a graham cracker and some hershess bars.

ITs not like anyone took your "Good program" spiel seriously, and nobody takes TW seriously. I asked laypeople to read his posts and the most they could muster out of his crap is "derp".

Besides can I do anything for that girl right now? No. SHEESH.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 10, 2007, 10:11:09 PM
You could pressure the newspaper The Spectrum to keep on this story. It's pretty obvious if this would have happened to a girl in the community that was not in this program it would've been front page news.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 10, 2007, 11:10:19 PM
I posted the days happenings in the off topic forums where I have brought this up before.

EVEN STILL some people still...

a) remain apathetic. WOW!

b) blame it all on the kid!!! Even a rape victim sent for 'treatment!' Want a quote?
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Wow, yeah, that must have been hard-- being raped at a party, then being sexually assaulted by the staff.

How much do you want to bet that the "perpetrators" were never prosecuted, in either case?


(Holy fucking SHIT. Yeah. I lit into his ass.... http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showpost.p ... stcount=51 (http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7407988&postcount=51) <- enjoy )

c) say they still "need choices" for bad kids and seem to neglect to realize they do no good, and do do bad.

It would seem you have to get past all of that, even with the proof being shouted from the roof tops of PRIME TIME FUCKING EVENING NEWS to get through to these people.
 :roll:

And frankly I'm in no condition to figure that out right now. If someone does, im me.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: hanzomon4 on October 25, 2007, 01:53:50 AM
Small update

Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
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Search continues for missing LaVerkin girl
By TIFFANY DE MASTERS
tdemasters@ thespectrum.com

ST. GEORGE - The LaVerkin Police Department is still looking for 17-year-old Jessi Graf.

Chief Lloyd Watkins said she was last seen at Farmer's Market wearing a yellow Farmer's Market shirt and blue jeans on Oct. 6.

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Watkins said Graf was living in LaVerkin and attending Cross Creek Center, a school for troubled kids.
"On the day she went missing, she told Cross Creek she would be training to be a cashier at Farmer's and would be 45 minutes late," he said. "She wasn't supposed to be trained as a cashier."

Watkins said it was reported Graf walked outside to gather carts and never came back inside. It was about mid-afternoon when they received the call that Graf was missing.

Watkins said they think she might have left on her own free will, but they don't want to take any chances.

"We're still certainly looking for her and want to make sure she's OK," he said.

Graf's parents, Carol and Tom, sent an e-mail voicing their ongoing concern for their daughter.

"We are working with the LaVerkin police, but are looking for any help we can get to locate our missing daughter," according to the e-mail.



This is the latest information I have. As far as I know she still has not been located. I don't blame the program for this. However, I think the newspaper should be ashamed of themselves. Apparently, this last article was finally posted where it should be on A1.

Unfortunately, it was a week later. Had they put it on the first page to begin with, instead of the 3rd page when it first happened, maybe they would've had more of a chance of locating her?

Who knows what has happened to this girl?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 25, 2007, 09:59:10 PM
I actually talked to the Mother who is very concerned about her daughter. They still have not located her. The Mother told me there was a man who was harassing her a couple weeks before her disapperance. He was in jail when she went missing however. Also, there was a report that she had tried calling her boyfriend in Colorado, but the Mother of that boy took the call, and was not even a 100% sure it was her. She wasn't sure if she heard her name correctly.

3 weeks is a long time. Apparently, the Mother told me she was on level 6, and due to graduate in December. She had been there 14 months, why would she just say screw it, and run when she was almost due to go home? Any thoughts?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 10:16:41 PM
Because a house where a WWASP parent lives is not a home? Seriously, why the hell would she want to return to a "mother" who sent her to a place like this (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=141352#141352)?!

(You might want to read that link, CCM Girl. It was written by someone you know.)

Perhaps some rich, program-aware knight in a shining new car was passing through the area, stopped in to the grocery, and found a damsel who was clearly distressed, told her he could easily disappear her, and proceeded to do exactly that with her full consent?

From what I know of modern knights, I'd wager that he's treating her eighty times better than anyone else ever did.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 10:51:33 PM
All I can say, is that I hope she is found alive. Maybe her parents could work things out so she did not have to return.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2007, 11:06:27 PM
Why would she want to work anything out with them, under any circumstances?

No, seriously- why? Even after she turns 18 they are still a clear threat to her safety and freedom because program parents are notorious for having their children legally declared something or other to retain control. What makes you think she has any business trusting them at all?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: hanzomon4 on October 26, 2007, 12:56:27 AM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
I actually talked to the Mother who is very concerned about her daughter. They still have not located her. The Mother told me there was a man who was harassing her a couple weeks before her disapperance. He was in jail when she went missing however. Also, there was a report that she had tried calling her boyfriend in Colorado, but the Mother of that boy took the call, and was not even a 100% sure it was her. She wasn't sure if she heard her name correctly.

3 weeks is a long time. Apparently, the Mother told me she was on level 6, and due to graduate in December. She had been there 14 months, why would she just say screw it, and run when she was almost due to go home? Any thoughts?


Could she have feared a level drop or being sent to another program?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Oz girl on October 26, 2007, 08:34:42 AM
ccm if you talkd to her mum you may want to tactfully raise the possibility of any relatives or friends that this girl can go to or at least contact to let know she is OK. It may be that she is not ready to talk to her parents for whatever reason yet. But if another loved one who is willing to help without any pressure or judgement makes it known that the gilrl can genuinely trust them she may at least be willing to get in touch.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2007, 02:47:49 PM
CCM Girl, when you "ran" where did you go, and how did you successfully stay hidden?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 27, 2007, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
CCM Girl, when you "ran" where did you go, and how did you successfully stay hidden?


Well, I dropped out of the top floor of the original manor. The staff new immediately since I dropped down in front of a window where they happened to be having a meeting. So, the chase was on from the get go. I got to some bushes where I jumped in, and hid. I watched as the vans, and the searchlights scanned the open fields. Once I knew they were gone (they thought I had a ride), I started across the fields going over, and under the bob wired fences. I came to a residential neighborhood, and started down the street. I came to a house that looked out of place, and falling apart. I saw a light on inside, and knocked. Nobody answered, so I let myself in. I came across a man/boy asleep on his bed. I woke him up scaring the shit out of him.

He helped me get dressed in some mens clothing, put on a cowboy hat, and was able to clear the search party that was on the Enchanted Way Bridge (there was no way of getting out of town unless you went over that, the other was just put you directly on I-15. So, this guy dropped me off at some friends house where they had no heat, and I was hidden in a closet. They went to the store, and stole black hair coloring for me to dye my hair with. The next day my friend from Mill Creek picked me up, and took me to a house in St.George. I met these girls who went to Dixie College so they let me stay with them at their place.

So, a few weeks later I called in, and spoke with my therapist. He told me to call my folks, which I did. We worked out a situation to where they would let me live on my own. That was a very interesting year. Going from total rules, to total freedom was a blast. I have to admit I was very lost mentally. Then my Aunt and Uncle brought me to Northern California. That's where I finished out my school, and grew into the person I am today.

So, it was luck. I didn't really have a plan. I just got lucky, that's all.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2007, 03:50:30 PM
Now, the question is this:

Would you do the same for some other girl in a program or about to get sent to one?

Or would you help her parents keep her in there?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 27, 2007, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Now, the question is this:

Would you do the same for some other girl in a program or about to get sent to one?

Or would you help her parents keep her in there?


Whew! Back from lunch. Anyway, I would never do anything illegal. Me, personally....well, if I knew the girls family I would offer to help her out myself by letting her come live with us with their permission. I would never take a child from their parents without them knowing where she was.

The parents do not need to be put through that. Everybody situation is different though. My parents intended to keep me in the programs till I was 18. Totally different situation. She had been there 14 months. Due to graduate by December.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: hanzomon4 on October 27, 2007, 05:08:18 PM
Could she have feared a level drop or being sent to another program?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2007, 05:42:33 PM
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She had been there 14 months. Due to graduate by December.


Have you forgotten that this is WWASPS we're talking about here?

Due to "graduate" (again, a term they have no business at ALL using) in December from a WWASPS program might mean that she gets out when her parents pull her, some time possibly in December, or never.

And you're seriously worried about how much concern they might pretend to have? (If they actually loved her, they wouldn't have sent her to fucking Cross Creek for 14 months!) The hell with that. Those "parents"- and I use the term extraordinarily loosely- can go eat a double helping of Niles' pencil dick. I for one hope they never find her, and if I do get some information on her whereabouts, I will contact her myself and remind her never to tell her parents shit.

Are you reading this, Jessi? Everything you endured in Cross Creek for the 14 months of your life that you'll never get back was for nothing save the depradations of the people who ran it. Your parents consider you nothing but a troublesome burden, and dealing with them is a horrible gamble at best, practical suicide at worst. Your real loyalty belongs to whoever is responsible for rescuing you. At this point trusting anyone else is a fucking joke.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 27, 2007, 05:48:27 PM
If you turn this thread into a flame fest I think a certain gorilla might just have to take a dump on it.

Lets keep this on the topic of that missing young woman, shall we?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2007, 05:49:37 PM
Shut it, pencil dick.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2007, 05:57:21 PM
I'd check for her at Nile's place!
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 27, 2007, 08:32:55 PM
What about Psy? Isn't he on some kind of road trip?!! Maybe he swung by La Verkin?
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Nihilanthic on October 27, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
He hasn't gone anywhere yet...
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 27, 2007, 11:59:08 PM
Whutever...not yet.
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Che Gookin on October 28, 2007, 12:02:17 AM
RUN jessi run! head for mexico.. the Tequila is divine!
Title: Cross Creek girl Jessi Graff missing.
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 12:31:25 AM
I wonder what happened to this girl. I hope she is okay.