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September, 2006.  

http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-09-04-00350.pdf


Extract:

Hospitals failed to report to CMS 44 of 104 documented deaths
related to restraint and seclusion between August 2, 1999, and
December 31, 2004. We received information from CMS, State survey
agencies, Protection and Advocacy agencies, and the Food and Drug
Administration concerning 104 behavior management-related deaths
associated with restraint and seclusion that occurred during this time
period. Hospitals did not report 44 of these deaths directly to CMS. Of
those deaths that hospitals reported directly to CMS, fewer than
one-third were reported timely.


...And no one paid attention then.

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:wd ... d=44&gl=us

IECA Fall Conference
November 7 - 10, 2007
(Wednesday - Saturday)
Hollywood, California
Renaissance Hollywood Hotel

A huge amount of worthless hacks from programs all over the country getting together with edcons.   Keynote speaker:  Henry Winkler.  The Fonz is a programee.

Two of my favorite PV clinicians will be there, speaking of things they know not:

205
Addiction to Self-Mutilation Among
Traumatized Adolescents
Adolescents who become addicted to
self-mutilation often have been exposed
to repetitive or overwhelming single
event trauma. This session will discuss
the bio-psycho-social aspects of self-
mutilation and present case studies
that reflect both the tendency of these
patients to relapse and their potential
to recover. Co-occurring treatment
modalities such as Cognitive Therapy,
Twelve Step Model, and Relapse
Prevention will be presented.
Presenters: Robert Pegler, Manager of
Community Relations, Peninsula Village
Adam McLain, Psy.D., Clinical Director,
Peninsula Village

And a workshop Peggy and Mac should be forced to attend. If the speaker uses too many polysyllabic words, though, these boys will start drooling and nod out.

I would love to crash this gig.

109
The Parent Trap: Defusing the
Intrusive Parent
This interactive workshop will share
ideas on how to encourage and insist
that parents let go and allow you to
do your job with their children. How to
deflect their “helpâ€

There was a discussion recently about the cost of PV which got me looking for an exact figure.  This is from about a year ago, but should still be accurate, if not lower than current fees.

We appreciate your interest in Peninsula Village - an adolescent residential treatment program of international distinction.  (*SNORT*)Our fees include the following:

$162.40 per day for therapeutic & psychiatric care
$46.40 per day for educational expense
$81.20 per day for room and board
___________
$290.00

These fees include all services provided for your child by Peninsula Village.  They total $8700 per month...(Not including the additional fee for restraints)

It is our policy to collect the following deposits no later than the day of admission:  the prorated amount of fees due for the month of admission, $8700 for the first full month after admission, and $8700 to be reserved for the last month of service.

That's $104,400 per year, and for what?  PV's outcome studies are a joke - 125 questionnaires sent out, 33% were returned, and they base their "success" on the 33% who bothered to answer.  It's more telling that 67% couldn't or wouldn't respond.  

Peninsula Village - for parents long on money and short on intelligence.

http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_d ... overy.html

You gotta like anything that starts off with a quote from that Zen guy...

Really very interesting, though.  It's one of the most recent interviews I've seen Abby do.  Jesus, I hope she's blowing smoke about making a movie and needing somebody "strong" to play her.  Lindsay Lohan needs a gig and won't have to method act.

Looks like it's going to be good.  This was in my ICSA update, and I noticed ICSA has more articles than I've seen in the past on teens/psychology and the rampant abuse.  Thank you, Phil Elberg!

Also, thank you, Maia.  That was a great piece on Scheff's gaming of the media.  Excellent writing, and I need to find a copy of The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog.

What really stuck in my mind after reading this excerpt was how quickly the American public forgot the Davidian kids.  I remember watching a news program interview with a little Davidian girl no more than seven years-old.  She described how Koresh had explained the proper way to kill herself with a pistol, demonstrating with her finger.  Not straight into your mouth, she said, but with the barrel pointing toward the roof of your mouth, to be sure it kills you.
 
Another group of kids I've wondered about are the Manson Family kids - there were many of them, allegedly involved in the drug-taking and family orgies.  

Are Americans ashamed of the troubled kids they've created? Too many parents place their kids in programs not for their actions, but to protect the family's "social standing" in the community.  Based on my own experience, I saw my honor roll girl snatched away without due process and put in PV not for what she had done, but for what she might possibly do.  And yeah, the bio-parent who pulled that stunt is highly concerned with his non-existent, delusional perception of himself as a "pillar of the community".   Why do our kids suffer for their parents' mental problems, like the parent I mentioned above who victimized his own flesh and blood to maintain  his over-the-top Megalomania, alcoholism, and Delusions of Grandeur?  

Abstract

Stairway to Heaven: Treating Children in the Crosshairs of Trauma

Bruce Perry, M.D., Ph.D.

Maia Szalavitz



This article discusses the experiences, observations, and conclusions of Dr. Bruce Perry’s child trauma team, which was asked to help 21 children, ranging in age from 5 months to 12 years, who had been released from David Koresh’s compound in Waco, Texas in 1993.  Children were in constant fear of physical attacks, public humiliation, and outsiders, i.e., the “Babylonians.â€

The face of NYRA:



Nice hat, dude.

Latest Trollage from another forum, good for a hoot.  Nice one, counselor!  Stay clear of those gastrointestinal bugs out there...oh, I remember now...my step daughter said the counselors were portly fans of Scottish cuisine...they like to pig-down on bags of  McDonald's in front of the drooling kids.  I guess they know better than to eat the PV fare...

yallarefullofit
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Re:Peninsula Village - 2007/06/07 08:59

i was at P.V for a long time several years ago. they are harsh, they are not abusive.
Restraints only happen when people are hurting themselves or attack other people.
Nothing in my experience of over a year at the Village matched anything negative that has been posted.
I would without question be dead right now if I had not gone to P.V.
I went to MANY "nicer" treatment facilities and was spiraling out of control.
jails and institutions were taken care of...death was the only end left.
i am now a sober, healthy, productive member of society and i am forever grateful to the village and my staff for saving my life.
i have no affiliation with the village other than being an alumni. No one from the village put me up to this.
if any of you are reading this forum i would suggest attending an area support group or asking about the alumni retreat where there will be dozens of alumni who know what the village did for them. once you leave you can easily dissociate yourself from the program, but people who were there over a decade ago keep coming back because it is some place special.
i don't know anyone who completed treatment there who didn't love it in the end.
I do know people who didn't complete there treatment but love it just the same. I would encourage people reading this to question the validity of the majority of the outrageous statements made about the abuse, because in my experience they are entirely false.

"My staff"?  WTF?

Yeah, the "dozens of alumni"...24 girls I call the "PV Porcine Patrol", the "Rah-Rah Restraint Girls", the "Choke-hold Cheerleaders" .  One of them takes vacations with a senior clinician and his family...but I'm not implying they get perks or anything.

I'd like to bring this back up again, it's off another thread "L.C. We can take out Peninsula Village"  Read L.C.'s story, examine the style, the use of question marks. Maybe WANF was unaware of this thread, I don't know. I got in touch with WANF through another board, not Fornits.

Her story was very important to Stoodoo and I - we were unaware of PV, and this is the first thing Stoodoo read. It was up on Infoshop, and in that version, "Mokara" tied PV closely to fascism.  This was posted on Infoshop over a year ago.

WANF is not a plant, she's another survivor and a bit unfamiliar with forums. She writes quickly, and is passionate about her concerns and unfortunately didn't realize how (normally) focused we try to be on the topics of the threads. To her, it's all inter-related, with PV being another symptom of a sick society.

I could not be sure she was the same person who contacted me by email. I tried, she dodged. Eventually I became suspicious, and thought she might be tied to a PV counselor who has recently posted a very personal attack on me, mostly, but also discusses my step daughter's case, disclosing details a little too individually identifiable, resulting in my family filing a HIPAA complaint. Like I've said before, the staffers at PV aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. Professional ethics isn't something a GED covers, or four years in a community college.

The thought it was the same young lady still nagged at me, and I emailed her again and received no response. I posted a bit of confidential information I thought she'd recognize, she missed it or was afraid to address it. Then people started jumping her case, she started shooting back. I got mad, and had a go at her, and sure enough, she DID see the confidential info, and asked how I knew (blank). It was all I needed for proof. I made a bit of amends, told her we were all on the same team, and we should start over. I haven't communicated with her on Fornits since, only encouraged her to use P.M. after registering, and I would answer her questions. She had realized I was the person she had contacted, and I guess she hadn't checked her email account recently - I had told her in an email I went by Zen Agent on Fornits.

WANF and I were both victims of post-PV paranoia. She wants to help.

The person posting in all caps who wanted to chew on Niles prostrate - not WANF. Please, folks, she means no harm. She has a lot of issues she considers important, and if some words offend her, I guess we shouldn't mock her. I know I made some nasty remarks, because censorship is one of the things I despise.

Again, she means no harm, and she knows a lot about the abuses at PV. I hope she'll fill out TSW's questionnaire, she could shed a lot of light on what things were like around 1998, and what changes have occurred. Although the statute of limitations is up for her to file a lawsuit against PV for the gut-churning abuses she's described, there's still a chance she and any of the girls she attended PV with can file a lawsuit. There is an exception to the statute of limitations, the "date of discovery". I have a "discovery" she would only be aware of after I email her the info, then she has a new case with a fresh start on the statute of limitations.