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Open Free for All / Re: New Forum Policies
« on: March 29, 2010, 09:49:48 AM »
Someone predicted the traffic would slow down due to the new rules - yep, it did.

It is unfortunate that the trolls buried so much of the substance of this forum - If I came upon the forum today I don't know if I would bother digging thru the wreckage to see if there was anything of value buried here.

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Many parents were trying to keep their kids out of jail, and a psych hospital had a lot more stigma attached to it than a "rehab" - especially a non medical rehab where the time spent disappears.
It was a case of "best intentions..." combined with the drug hysteria etc.

The court (in my case) looked quite favorably on my time on the program, can't say what the outcome would have been otherwise;

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Any news on Evan Wright's book?
« on: December 17, 2009, 12:56:13 PM »
I have not seen anything by his brother in a long while;
I was on the program with both of them.
Looking forward to the book -

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: The SEED in Stow, Ohio?
« on: August 04, 2009, 02:35:51 PM »
they asked, some did not move - they were graduated;
Some parents moved to ft. lauderdale and continued to have newcomers etc. for a while.

It was not on the scale of SR 84, miami, etc. at there heyday;

there were only about maybe 40 people, some were over 18.  
Come to think of it, only a few minors made the trip without parents or older (over 18) siblings moving down with them.

It was a strange time;

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: The SEED in Stow, Ohio?
« on: August 04, 2009, 06:55:48 AM »
I was in the Cleveland location in Sept-October 78 when it closed up and moved to SR84;

Look into Ridge Tool (Made Rigid pipe wrenches) or Emerson Electric (Owns Ridge Tool) for a lead on the property;

Son of a senior executive was on the program (lived in the "apartments" with him);

PM me for more

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: This forum, Now and then
« on: July 23, 2009, 12:58:55 PM »
Thanks Greg

I found the dialog helpful in resolving many of the issues, and reconnected with several people I knew then;

Now I see what a job it must have been

Glad to hear your daughter is doing better;

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: ART BARKER'S ADDRESS IS HERE
« on: July 15, 2009, 02:02:18 PM »
My kid has it better than we did, won't be put in a position to be exposed to it.

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This ship sailed long ago;

Stolen from who?
Funds were structured as a donation to "the seed, inc."
The directors can do with it whatever they want.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: ART BARKER'S ADDRESS IS HERE
« on: July 15, 2009, 10:47:13 AM »
he's not that interested - besides, we don't want him around bad language;

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: ART BARKER'S ADDRESS IS HERE
« on: July 15, 2009, 10:20:14 AM »
My 10 yr. old can find that information and more given a few minutes and WIFI.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Class Action Filing
« on: July 14, 2009, 03:40:57 PM »
Thought so

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Class Action Filing
« on: July 14, 2009, 03:31:57 PM »
I see people selling land and cars to support the effort

It's in the works?  

Soundslike you have resources coming in based on a pretty nebulous cause - do we send money to a bank in Nigeria?

Seems to me that any effort at a class action suit has degenerated into a volley of name calling and idle threats;

can't say I didn't see that coming.

I will be interested to see where this is going.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Class Action Filing
« on: July 13, 2009, 03:37:30 PM »
In south florida, the seed is old news;

Most of the current residents weren't there when it was happening and don't care. those that were there then are done with it.

The rest of the world is blissfully unaware;  The parents of the kids that were affected are glad that chapter is closed.  

Most folks don't want any association with a rehab publicized for professional reasons (hence anonymity rules), so few of those directly affected will be willing to come forward in a public forum such as a courthouse where legal standing would need to be established.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Class Action Filing
« on: July 13, 2009, 03:18:26 PM »
The catholic church still exists as a business and a legal entity, the seed (and its bank account) is but a memory.
The inner circle may have their faults but they are not stupid.  

All of the assets have been passed to various trusts, etc. and are most likely well protected.

Any legal action would be for personal satisfaction only, there would be no jackpot.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Class Action Filing
« on: July 13, 2009, 01:28:38 PM »
Truth is, the seed, inc no longer exists; the staff, art barker, lybbie, etc. are not individually responsible for anything, only the corporation is/was responsible;  Any funds the program had accumulated have been stashed in various legal entities well beyond the reach of dissatisfied clients.

NAme calling is about all that is left.

If you were a minor, you were put there by your parents - as a minor you did not need to be informed or consulted about anything; your consent was not required.  Minors have no rights;

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