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I love your work on page four of this thread. You are great. Keep it up. I have a couple of requests.

1. Include danny dragging girl behind van
2. Include danny facilitating fights with students in the ring at elan
3. Include danny in elan pocket books
4. Include danny fucking up elan survivor groups for the last 10 years
5. Include danny having corrupt relationship with Marty


Go kick some ass, love your work.

the Benkrugnadlick has posted on 4nits 541 times
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2 have slightly exposed elan yet Bennison still revels in the GLORY of being an abuser in those 2 posts and relishes his role in the elan scheme of things
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all of   of AA Bennisons posts are are in direct contradiction of the AA twelve steps and 12 traditions  If Bennison wipes his ass like he works AA THEN he most certainly have oozing piles around the  hole that the  Krugly covets  maybe next time Bennison is recieving the Krugly he will ask the Krugly to use a lube that has antibiotics in it  
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oooooo that smell  can you not smell that smell the smell  of death that is all around you  because of you
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Most of Bennison's posts are attacks on other suvivors Bennison doesn't know the Benkrugnadlick does not care  which program the survivors was in he attacks he  siddles  up  like a crab to the suvivor plays buddy suckie and  THEN attacks with the viciousiness of a program trained abuser  and he still tries to seeks his GLORY in all of this
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Bennison is a pathological drama queen that loves gossip and hearsay he is incapable of standing on his own 2legs and being an honest human being because he likes getting on all 4s while the Krugly with his huge fuckin swollen hands double fists the vomit out of him Bennison beggs for a reach around but the Krugly says maybe next time as he thrusts his meaty mits into the place where Bennison poops.
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when Bennison farts it sounds like 2 pieces of cardboard flappin in the breeze
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Bennisons other posts ARE such nonsense that nobodee responds or replies to his lunacy  bBnkrugnadlick it is a GIVEN that Women should not die in childbirth but Bennison can not give you a reason one reason why
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Bennison is so stupid that if his brains were cotton he would not have enough to make a rag for an ANT   butta bing butta bang  butta up bennisons butt says the Krugly
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all his other posts he tries to explore his abusive training and futher his education in being an abuser by cuddling up to the whoot on the jrc thread looking for new ways to abuse former survivors
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he is a misogynist as evidenced by some of his very disrespectful posts to the various women on 4nits he will not know what that word means
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Bennison shits on this forum like he is the program director of 4nits as evidenced by his many posts out of the 541 posts of his where he angrily tells former survivors of other programs what to do
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he is so deluded that he does not see what he posts is his tell     he is a violent sociopath with severe borderline personality traits combined with exteme reaction formation mechanisms all can be found in his 541 posts
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Benkrugnadlick enjoys his position in his mind    he has no compunction ability at all    no conscience to speak of is throughly IN DRIVEN  that he can not respect other opinions also evidenced by his 541 posts
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is very angry all the time 541 posts represents this anger all because he is a true sick fuck that imprinted on the Krugly in a fashion that only birds  could understand and the Krugly will not give him the release that only TCK can give the sick fuck
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he plays childish games posting private messages in his mind he thinks it will explain something but it simply makes him out to be the untrusworthy shithaed that his 541 posts represent
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everyone on 4nits is so humbly greatful that we are not Danny Bennison and every one agrees probably even the whoot  Bennison we are so greatful we are not you
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is so deluded that he has actully posted with in his 451 posts that he has helped 4nits in exposing programs hahahahahah
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Danny Bennison tub girl called she wanted to know if you wanted a drink  go on Danny take a big ole swig you know you want to you stupid fuckin sicko
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all the survivors on 4 nits  are so fuckin happy we ARE not you and that we have love in OUR lives THAN to be an abusive program supporter like your 541 posts in 3 months prove.
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THEN to be stuck in in a time that you can not escape because you are not a SURVIVOR   so happy we all ARE that we are not you in any way shape or form you stupid sick deluded  fuck  
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tub girl is waiting she wants to know if you want a little sip go a haed Bennison have a little drink you know you want it
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Quote from: "Froderik"

Quote from: "shanlea123"

Yes, the Troubled Teen industry does tend to incite extreme degrees or anger, sadness, disappointment, bitterness, and one other thing that we tend to mask: hurt. And pain for others who will suffer the same psychic scars we did.

It is a shame that there are those blind pro-program contingency continue to throw salt on indelible wounds of abuse, and call us "extreme hate mongers." Certainly, there is a faction who are extreme.   And while I don't condone threats and maps to dissidents' homes and families (on either side), I continue to marvel at the extreme insensitivity exhibited by those who support these programs. Insensitivity at the obvious pain and abuse suffered by thousands.  I think I prefer the extremism of those that are hot blooded over those that are cold hearted.

Maybe part of the problem is that it is easy for you to disregard us when we are "angry."  To you, it shows an imbalance.   Something easy for you to cast aside.

But really, isn't outrage appropriate? After all, we have all attended programs that:

1. Use bullying, badgering, spying, isolation, and coercion to exploit true, half true, and false stories of ourselves.

2. Use demeaning verbal and psychological abuse repeatedly to break us down.

3. Fail to individuate treatment or treat the individual with integrity.  

4. Fail to use proper therapeutic boundaries in treatment. How do we trust staff members who regale us with war stories of committing rape, manslaughter, molestation, and other deviancies while we work out our own issues?  Should we have to tell a GROUP of peers our most painful stories, only to be heckled and badgered and demeaned, while possibly a staff member committed the same  trauma inflicted on us in his "other life."   It is not uncommon for staff to join these programs to work out, in effect projecting, their own shit on us. Like the staff member who insisted  on me being a drug addict, even though I never was, and had in fact, not even seen drugs in six months prior to the program. Its hardly news that he himself was a hard core coke head who lost everything prior to CEDU. I can't tell you the number of staff who projected their eating disorders, their sexual histories, their drug addictions onto us, and basically hammered us until we accepted our newly revised histories and had to work on issues that didn't exist until we believed it ourselves.

5. Did I say there was little individuated treatment?

In addition:

6. What kind of place puts the upper level TEENAGERS in control of the psychological development (or should I say, devolution) of newcomers? It was like Lord of The Flies. Whoever bullies, castigates, puts down the best, wins.  

7. How does a daily onslaught of speaking to people in a demeaning, insulting fashion (slut, nigger, etc.) build them up? How is it elevating for an individual  to talk about themselves in a desultory way, daily and repeatedly? You are actually rewarded the more you put yourself down, with the greatest histrionics.

8. How can you argue that keeping students insulated from their families to the degree many programs operate is beneficial when this insularity has been so GROSSLY misused to manipulate families, students, and keep the program in the control pit?  If families can't talk to us, and we learn quickly the ramifications of speaking up, the school can and will say anything to keep the student under their thumbs.  This was systemic. And there is no checks and balances.

9. How can you subject young developing minds to confrontational style experientials, ranging from the four hour thrice weekly raps to the week long summits, where sleep and emotions are deftly manipulated to achieve a contrived dependence on program values and ideology, and an unnatural expectation of intensity in personal relationships?  These experentials were conceived for adults in serious mind control, money schemes such as Life Spring, EST, and synanon. They are not meant for kids. I would say they aren't meant for adults either, but hey, if you want to be psychically manipulated at the age of consent... whatever.

10. Parents do NOT know what really happens in raps and profeets. The demos they do are baby versions. Bullshit demos.  In programs like Straight, you don't see the crazy arm flaps--the motivating-- in open meetings that parents attend. Hell, no.... those are for show. Everyone knows to pile on the bullshit and act according to discretion in front of the parents or there will be hell to pay. In my program, everyone freely admits to, years later, the snow job they had to deliver during parent tours, OR ELSE!!  There was always that underlying tension of knowing you are required to play a part in order to survive a brutal onslaught later.

11. How many programs really prepare you for life outside? With REAL WORLD skills, relationships, and expectations? Because if there is one criticism amongst many ex programmees is that they left the program and were at a complete and total loss for how to function in the real world.

Now, of course, there are some transition programs, but they don't transition, they extend social ineptitude. (Why? Because social boundaries, expectations, and dynamics that we learn at these programs are contrived, unrealistic, and ideological...  Not to mention they rest on the premise of coerced intimacy and exploitation.

12.  The fall out, after years of isolation, insulation, psychological manipulation, daily, repeated verbal abuse en masse, and forced ingestion of rigid cult-like ideology at a critical stage of development takes decades to unravel.  You totally lose yourself and adopt some Stepford version of reality that doesn't exist....  or you go the other way, perhaps, and become the addict, prostitute, porn star, and bully you never were pre-program to live out the cult's depiction of you.  

In any event, you can't build someone up by treating them as a criminal class. You can't build them up by promoting coercion and forcing ideology of ONE way of thinking and acting.  You can't build people up when you teach a blatant disregard for self respect by continually forcing minors to verbally degrade and humiliate themselves in a group in order to be promoted through levels.   You can't build someone up when your whole program undermines the individual and operates on fraudulent psychodynamics.

You might dismiss some people on Fornits for being too radical or angry... but personal experience is  the driving force.   Many of us, in spite of our pains, have crafted a successful life for ourselves.  Others struggle more.   But we all have scars.

If your daughter gets raped, should I say, "get over it" ?  Some of us, in fact, have been raped, and find the psychic rape of these programs infinitely more scarring.  

You know, it really upsets me to know that names and addresses are relayed in a manner that compromises any family's sense of safety. (And that is a problem experienced by BOTH sides.)

But I am also pained by the knowledge that program advocates want to take away the cathartic outlet of those who were hurt in these programs. I also feel that prospective parents should hear the flip side of the coin before warehousing their children in dubious hands.  For this purpose, splayed anger is not as constructive as surgically directed anger, BUT

I would rather spend a lifetime in box with the angriest, most imbalanced poster here, then one day in luxury with someone who condones and rationalizes the insidious abuses that occur at these programs.

/bump/

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Very good stuff, heard alot of it a million times over, it never gets old, most of what your talking about here ended years ago and some still goes on. Many programs have evolved to become more subtle in their approach to children but abuse through intimidation just the same.
Parents, boy do they get a free ride here on fornits. We just can't turn to our own parents and let them have it. No...we have to continue to stuff these unsatisfied, confused feelings of hurt and pain. Point them at a more convenient detached enemy the program. Yes as I said, "programs should get there share but the parents that have and are supporting these abusive entities should be held accountable. Your/Our problems started long before we got to our perspective program and most if not all our problems manifested at home first. Then the program took a already confused hurt kid and pretty much finished the job of scaring them.
This "Troubled Teen Industry" needs to grasp hold of the parents and start slapping some sense into their lazy selfish self-centered asses, WTF is going on.

Danny

Wake up
Call Elan School for my daily instructions
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Hit the Crack Pipe
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Jones for more
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Mug Old Lady
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Suck the Glass Dick
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Peep out Window for Police
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Smoke more Crack
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Look for rock I think I dropped on the Floor
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Find “rock” on Floor and smoke it
Rock on Floor is piece of toast  FUCK!
Clean Pipe and Jones
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Get more Crack
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FREAK OUT
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Read my AA Big Book while furiously yanking my limp ass “coke dick”
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Drink Wild Irish Rose
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it's back.... :shamrock:

Wake up
Call Elan for my daily instructions
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Suck Ken Zaretsky’s COCK
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Drink Wild Irish Rose
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Panhandle for drink money
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Suck off Marty Kruglik
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Drink Whiskey
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Put on rubber gloves
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stick finger up my anus
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Shove my whole fist up my anus
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Smell my hand
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Lick my hand
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Drink more whiskey
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Recruit new AA members to molest at later date
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Now just let me understand something here while all of you "mother hens" minimize this childs behavior like he just walked out of, "Sainthood Preparatory Divine Academy". Sergey was smoking pot, doing oxy cot, drinking, terrorizing his parents and pretty much doing whatever the hell he wanted to do, per the conversation with his parents. Now did this mean you had to kill him or in anyway abuse him, NO. I just saying lets talk about the right child here, 9403390 is talking about children you have to ask yourself why are they even there then if there so polite and gentile. Children that end up at these facilities are master manipulators and everyone knows that from our own experiences, "this does not mean they should be abused" yet you have to deal with it.

Smells Like Staff......

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