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Excerpts from ... Torture:

"Techniques described in the November 18 ABC News report?prolonged forced standing, sleep deprivation, and exposure to cold?are illegal and may possibly amount to torture. These techniques were used by Soviet and North Korean interrogators, and have been reported more recently in Egypt, Burma, Iran and Turkey. This backgrounder provides descriptions of these techniques and their effects ? both historical examples and accounts from the State Department?s own human rights reports."

"The Washington Times reported last year that ?some of the most feared forms of torture? cited by survivors of the North Korean gulag ?were surprisingly mundane: Guards would force inmates to stand perfectly still for hours at a time, or make them perform exhausting repetitive exercises such as standing up and sitting down until they collapsed from fatigue.? (?Nightmares from the North; Korean son recounts life in dictatorship,? Benjamin Hu, The Washington Times, April 30, 2004.) "

"In The Gulag Archipelago, Aleksander Solzhenitsen describes Soviet interrogations including cases of forced standing and sleep deprivation: ?Then there is the method of simply compelling a prisoner to stand there.? Among other techniques used to break prisoners was forcing them to stay in a fixed position for an extended period of time."

"Pakistan: In the country reports, the State Department noted that prolonged isolation and denial of food or sleep were common torture methods."

"Tunisia: In the country reports, the State Department said that tactics such as food and sleep deprivation or confinement to a tiny, unlit cell were commonly used in Tunisia."
 
"Turkey: The State Department stated that torture is a regular practice in Turkey. According to the 2001 country report, some of the methods of torture employed by Turkish security forces included prolonged standing and isolation."

Just an excerpt from the relevant stuff.  Sounds alot like iso at WWASPS to me!  :flame:

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-- [email protected][ This Message was edited by: trnsz on 2005-11-30 20:26 ]

Funny stumbling upon this forum, totally randomly.  I'm currently 25 and spent time when I was 17 in Paradise Cove, Samoa.  While I might have been an introvert and quite possibly an asshole I never thought I really had any problems, and I faked my way through the program.  I've honestly blocked all the shitty moments from my memory for the most part, but I felt compelled after coming to this forum to post.

I never knew of the investigations into the place, or even that they were featured on TV shows and closed down.  There are some people I remember there, and after some reading, I was shocked to some of them had committed suicide or (unsuprisingly, really) left there worse off than they came in -- and it was my experience a lot of these kids had BIG problems.

After reading a few threads, I'm tempted to find the exact date I was there, but I don't really want to think about that time so much, and at the moment - I want to be anonymous.  

For those that were there with me, you'd probably remember anyway with what I've said and how I (much) write, and knowing I was on Telefaga (sp?) Beach, can't remember the "family".

Anyway, I do remember that the crappy chicken and bread, but I have fond memories of the cocoa-rice.  That shit was great.  I remember how ironic it was that I never experimented with drugs or really did anything really too "bad" until after getting out, too!  I had some great, totally crazy insane times that I'd not recommend to anyone, but I felt like, if at moments notice you can be abducted and sent to Samoa, you better live it up. =)  I got out of that stage just fine without anyone's help.

Anyway, after PC, I disowned my parents for awhile, moved out, grew my hair back out, dated some beautiful ladies, and for the most part lived the good life in the computer industry until 2001 whenl the market crashed.  

After the dot-com bubble and some unflattering jobs, and another small attempt at management, I was in a car accident and I'm now injured, unemployed, broke, but recovering.  Hopefully I'll get some money from a lawsuit against the guy who rear-ended me at 50mph when I stopped at a light.

Anyway, anyone else out from PC have a site or a registry or any details?  Anyway, what a flood of memories.  Watching crappy movies in the schoolhouse (Anaconda comes to mind), cleaning the damn beach all the time, etc.  

Anyone remember the name of that "father" with the tatoo of the marijuana leaf on his arm?  I hate to drop a name, but does anyone know what happened to Travis?  He was from California, can't recall where.  

Also, did anyone else "steal back" all the letters that you sent your friends and your family while you were there?  I did, but in 7+ (already?!) years I've not really read any of them.  Maybe I can recall some names, dates, specific events.

Finally, anyone out there from Florida, or even South Florida?  Please reply!  Sorry for such a giant first post.  When you haven't though about chunk of your life, it's hard to think of what to say!  

PS - Parents!  Programs like these are a sham, and by supporting them, the only thing that I can see coming out of it is resentment.  I've had family which I have no spoken to since 1996 or 1997 and never plan to because of that place.[ This Message was edited by: trnsz on 2005-11-29 02:41 ]