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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Paul St. John on June 03, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
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I see a lot of Elanians still pumped. they are empowered, by the shutting down. they are looking to do something. It is all over facebook... "Core Group", etc.
I just wanted to give my thoughts on what I think would be the natural objective to pursue. Of course, you want to network with, and support those exposing other programs..
But in my view, the next natural step, is to strip Elan of it's victim-hood. They closed because of unfair internet attacks. they are playing the victim. It is a first step to shut them down, and very important one.. the bullshit stops. It is over. But full justice, in my mind, requires exposing the fact that they were the bad guys, and they were closed by the good guys.. They need to take responsibility.
Paul St. John
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Get witness statements against individual high ranking members of the staff and start forwarding them to the police. With the majority of their political clout down the crapper you are all likely to have way more luck against picking off the individual staffers one by one.
Do this privately, do not allow them the timely warning they need to lawyer up or get the hell out of town. The goal is imprisonment, not reconciliation.
These dudes are animals, they deserve to be put down like animals.
As always, ban Art, Sharon, Mark, and Leroy Jenkins on site from any such effort.
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I know that it costs money, but now it is time to write history. How do you want Elan School to be remember?
Normally history is written by those who won and if this task is forgotten the entire effort you and others have put in this case could be lost.
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You have to return the status of victim to the survivors and paint the school out in the proper light. That light being the shades of white and black that comes with old fashion prison uniform stripes. Hammer away at the facts regarding Elan's abusive actions towards the children held captive by them.
Hammer at them about this till they are viewed as the devils they are.
Now that they no longer have the collective body of staff and alumni to lean on for support you can pick off the really big time villains one by one.
Lawsuits, criminal charges, books, interviews..
You name it.. do it.
Keep the pressure on them, don't let them play the victim card, it isn't theirs to play.
Again, don't let art, mark, sharon, or the dannyspambot participate.. they'll fuck you all up eight ways to Sunday just to get a giggle at posting some bullshit text.
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Good question Paul.
Elan did not close due to the harsh internet attacks. It closed because of the truth that former suvivors posted on the internet for years and years . Elan closed because of the perseverence of survivors thru the personal attacks perpetrated by former employees of elan. Elan closed because of the truth.
Elan closed because it was a brutal ,violent ,sadistic ,soul eating hell hole, created by Joe Ricci and run by his seriall, sadistic, criminal, child abusers . Elan closed because Sharon Terry ,Martin Kruglik ,and Jeffery gottlieb were trying to escape justice that for them would be life in prison for the rest of their natural lives.
The history of elan must never be forgotten nor perverted by the henchmen that helped Joe Ricci and Sharon Terry run it. The history of elan can be found all over the internet by the postings of the former survivors of that hell hole . The history of elan must never be forgotten.
There are many people that have panic attacks ,nightmares and lead unhappy lives because of the lunacy that elan proffited from in guise of therapy. Worse still there are many good people that are dead from having come in contact with Joe Ricci ,elan and the henchmen that helped him run it . They did not survive the sadistic "tools of compliance " that elan and the cretinous bastards used to make the resident fit the program.
Elan closed to protect the Bill Diamonds and the other corrupt officials and judges that helped keep what was going on in elan from being exposed. The cretins that helped run elan were not qualified to work with at risk youth nor chronically abused children in any way shape or from. Going thru elan ,a program that ,taught you how to beat on children can not be considered as being qualified in any way shape or form to work with children.
The history of elan must not be preverted by the ones that worked there, it must be told by the survivors of elan. The history of elan must be used to show why HR911 bill must be unstalled in the United States senate and passed therefore, this history of Elan's serial criminal child abuse will never be repeated .
Justice must find elan and the henchmen that ran it. Justice must be found for the ones that can no longer speak because they are dead from just having come in contact wth this hell hole.
The history and legacy of Sharon Terry ,Martin Kruglik and Jeffery Gottlieb must never be forgotten as the serial sociopathic ,criminal child abusers ,that worked at the Elan Corporation / also known as the Elan School.
The history of elan and the henchmen that ran it must never be forgotten , and they must find justice on this earth until they die.
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This is happening also:
http://www.free-press-release.com/news- ... 08993.html (http://www.free-press-release.com/news-legislator-no-longer-admissions-director-at-abusive-boarding-school-1307208993.html)
Legislator No Longer Admissions Director at Abusive Boarding School
June 4, 2011 Human Rights news in Binghamton,New York, United States of America
An alumni-based campaign against a boarding school in New York stated an elected legislator is no longer Admissions Director at Abusive Boarding School
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Binghamton, New York, United States of America (Free-Press-Release.com) June 4, 2011 --
The Family Foundation School TRUTH Campaign, an alumni-based campaign against a boarding school in New York that has abused children for more than 30 years, is saying that they have yet another accomplishment thanks to an extensive social media campaign targeting one of the boarding school's employees, Jason Garnar. In early 2011, The Family Foundation School TRUTH Campaign learned that Jason Garnar, who has been employed at The Family Foundation School for over 10 years, was promoted to Admissions Director at the school. It was also a known fact that Garnar held a position as Broome County legislator, an elected official in Binghamton, NY.
The Family Foundation School TRUTH Campaign launched a social media campaign and published press releases exposing the elected official's new position, claiming Garnar was promoting child abuse by serving as Director of Admissions at an abusive facility. The Campaign also claims that in Garnar's ten plus years of being employed at the school as a History teacher, he has failed to report child abuse or neglect to officials, even though his position mandates him to report abuse in accordance with New York State Mandated Reporter laws.
According to the boarding school's official website, Garnar is no longer on the admissions team at the School. The Campaign against the school stated that the new 'Dean of Admissions' is Jeff Brain. Brain now holds several positions at the school, including Vice President for External Relations. The Campaign stated that Brain claimed to a news reporter in 2009 that alumni allegations of abuse are "untrue". Brain has also pleaded on the school's blogging websites for professionals in the field and parents not to believe claims of abuse.
The anti-school campaign claims that The Family Foundation School has abused children since the school's founding and that the school fails to license themselves as a youth treatment center. The campaign also stated that the school is only licensed by the New York State Education Department as a school, but that the school actually operates as a treatment facility for children with serious mental health and emotional issues that the school is not equipped or licensed to handle.
More information about the campaign can be found on their website and Facebook page.
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Some GREAT Posts on this thread, I think....
This is the shit that is real to me... Posts echoing with truth and real-world intelligence.
This is what it is all about.. They are weak now! Now is the time!
In my view, this is the good in man.. represented right here in this thread. Reading your posts make me feel good.. I thank ya for that. They inspire me... and make me proud of my fellow man.
Paul
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Nice to see you back, Danny. This site needs your voice as a counterweight to people like Paul St. John who have extreme views of treatment.
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Whatever you are, that was yesterday. I believe I have grown up a bit and don't feel so victimized. I found that early on I had a chip on my shoulder and tried to blame it on everyone else. It is 2011 and their is a new sheriff in town.
You are on your own, pal.
Bye Bye
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You know Che
I used to think you were a pretty smart guy. But you really are extra fucked in the head
Until March of last year,I hadnt been to this site in close to 5 years. My return has been only to defend myself against these asswipes who lie,cheat and steal.... Mark and Sharon.
You have no idea the amount of time,effort and energy that I, and many others, put into closing that hell hole.. And for alot of years before Marky and Sharon arrived here.. Well maybe not Marky. He has been around a long time pretending to be others
Even in the articles printed recently, I and anyone else with a brain was able to pick out 6-8 lies they told to feed their ego's. As if something they were going to say or do was different than what has been said or done before. It happened to be good timing. Elan ran out of money,and as a result,their political clout was depleted
I have learned some important lessons about people like yourself,Mark and Sharon. You cannot repair the damage done to them,or you, prior to,or after elan. You are just damaged goods. Whatever your personal experience with others here is,you dont know shit
You know nothing about me,never met me,or even had a conversation with me and you freely condemn me to be in the same catagory as these 2 idiots ?
2 words
Fuck and YOU
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And nor can I and will I spend the time or money to fix you Arty. Two key points here, you've a proven track record of back stabbing, as evidenced by your spurious and repeated DCMA requests that caused fornits to get knocked offline. You are more than likely a flaming at the mouth liar who has been stirring his own pot of personal controversy by assuming fake identifications and attacking yourself and others.
No Art, the real deal here is FUCK YOU.
Those who have taken it upon them to fight the lies pandered by Elan need to avoid Art and his little self-loathing association of losers like they are on fire and spewing toxic balls of plasma loaded with herpes. Farty Arty, Scary Sherry, Dipshit Mark, And that cunt Banny Spammy Danny have done nothing more than cause turmoil and chaos in the Elan community for years.
That's right people, FUCKING YEARS of their shit. YEARs spent sorting through the damage they've caused to their own movement. YEARS of time added onto the suffering of children trapped in Elan because grown adults couldn't grow the fuck up.
So yeah ART, and Spammy Danny, and Scarey Sherry, and Fucking Dipshit Mark..
All of you GO FUCK YOURSELVES.
I'm saying this for the people who are just fucking so tired of your shit that they won't say it themselves. They fucking know if they do say it they'll be flooded with complaints, threats, and other attacks. I'm saying it to all those heroes out there who are going at Elan's memory full tilt and not bothering with you four douchebag losers anymore.
I'm saying cause motherfucker, it needs to be said.
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And yeah that's right people, you go right on ahead kicking Elan's ass, I'll call these fuckheads out for you. Don't let these cunts waster another moment of your time.
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And nor can I and will I spend the time or money to fix you Arty. Two key points here, you've a proven track record of back stabbing, as evidenced by your spurious and repeated DCMA requests that caused fornits to get knocked offline.
I gave an ultimatum to loser a) and Loser b)...After months of being stalked,slandered,and threatened. All because I wouldnt join they're little group of hate and lies. They chose to squander the opportunity to STFU. Mark stole my personal info and after having his own website taken down (6-7 times) he brought his tantrum to fornits. There are 4 police reports with Marky's/Sharon's name attached here in Il,and one in Denver. I attempted to "reason" with the admin here numorous times,prior to,during,and after the fact. Fornits being taken down was all about Sharon and Mark
You are more than likely a flaming at the mouth liar who has been stirring his own pot of personal controversy by assuming fake identifications and attacking yourself and others.
I have never,ever had a false screen name ever. The idea that you have me figured out,only proves what a complete fucking moron you really are. Just one of the Gang here @ Cesspool USA. You make your assessment about me, based on what you read here,as opposed to the truth.
Something most people here avoid like the fucking plague
You know less than most.. but always available to run your mouth
Again,for those in the cheap seats.. You havent a clue about me,dont know me,never met me.
I will conceed that SOME of my writings have been offensive. Right wrong or indifferent.. Was only in defense of myself
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Nice to see you back, Danny. This site needs your voice as a counterweight to people like Paul St. John who have extreme views of treatment.
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Whatever you are, that was yesterday. I believe I have grown up a bit and don't feel so victimized. I found that early on I had a chip on my shoulder and tried to blame it on everyone else. It is 2011 and their is a new sheriff in town.
You are on your own, pal.
Bye Bye
I'm sorry to hear this. I was the only one to stand up for you when you had gotten exposed for dragging that girl behind your van, remember? Trying to discredit me only reflects poorly on you, Danny. You are the one who worked at Elan school and tied a girl to the bumper of your van and dragged her around the campus. Maybe it's time for you to look at yourself a little bit. Just my advise.
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There was no exposure.. At best -a lead, or suggestion. Even Whooter is too articulate to refer to that as being "exposed".
Paul
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I would just like to say that when I recently heard about the shutting down of Elan was was thrilled and emotional. I am so happy for the people who worked hard to see this happen. I never went there. I went to hyde, i'm sure you guys know about hyde from running track against us and the like. you guys made Hyde seem like a walk in the park. I havn't been on this forum in years but this has renewed my faith that positive effect can certainly come out of people organizing themselves on the internet. I am telling all my friends about this.
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I would just like to say that when I recently heard about the shutting down of Elan was was thrilled and emotional. I am so happy for the people who worked hard to see this happen. I never went there. I went to hyde, i'm sure you guys know about hyde from running track against us and the like. you guys made Hyde seem like a walk in the park. I havn't been on this forum in years but this has renewed my faith that positive effect can certainly come out of people organizing themselves on the internet. I am telling all my friends about this.
I take it that you're only speaking for yourself here, mansion dweller?
And I gather that you weren't one of those Hyde students who was sexually or physically assaulted, or who's life Hyde tried to sabotage, or who's family was ripped apart irrevocably, or who was driven to consider or commit suicide as a result of their experiences, or the myriad of other nightmares associated with that place? I wouldn't exactly call those kids' experiences "a walk in the park."
In fact, and please forgive me if I seem harsh here, it is just such a mindset which has enabled this industry not only to get a solid start, but also to continue to flourish. If people keep invalidating what others go through, no one is ever gonna really understand, let alone heal from, the mindfuckery behind it all.
People are different. What's lethally toxic for one person may be bearable for another. It takes all kinds to make a world, something these one-size-fits-all programs don't like to take into consideration.
Moreover, there will always be another program that's supposedly "not as bad" as another one, or the one before, as long as you continue to make superficial "improvements" of the ilk that Whooter recommends, which completely ignore the heart of the problem.
Just my two cents, and just sayin', fwiw... :nods:
That said (which turned into a bigger and crankier mouthful than intended), I wholeheartedly concur with the rest of your expressed sentiments, and I'm sure that many Elaners appreciate the trouble you took to come back on to fornits to post them.
And yet, there is still much to be done, as this here thread title very much implies. Perhaps you'd care to involve yourself? Your perspective on "the scene in Maine" could very likely be helpful.
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Mansion,
Hyde nor Elan was a walk in the park. Maybe a walk in the graveyard but no sunshiny park.
Ignorance allows the oppressor to thrive.... ;)
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I would just like to say that when I recently heard about the shutting down of Elan was was thrilled and emotional. I am so happy for the people who worked hard to see this happen. I never went there. I went to hyde, i'm sure you guys know about hyde from running track against us and the like. you guys made Hyde seem like a walk in the park. I havn't been on this forum in years but this has renewed my faith that positive effect can certainly come out of people organizing themselves on the internet. I am telling all my friends about this.
Mansion Dweller, your spirit is in my opinion admirable and on track! I'm not sure why your post is drawing negative responses, but I hope it doesn't hamper your inspiration..
Rock on!
Paul St. John
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I would just like to say that when I recently heard about the shutting down of Elan was was thrilled and emotional. I am so happy for the people who worked hard to see this happen. I never went there. I went to hyde, i'm sure you guys know about hyde from running track against us and the like. you guys made Hyde seem like a walk in the park. I havn't been on this forum in years but this has renewed my faith that positive effect can certainly come out of people organizing themselves on the internet. I am telling all my friends about this.
Mansion Dweller, your spirit is in my opinion admirable and on track! I'm not sure why your post is drawing negative responses, but I hope it doesn't hamper your inspiration..
Rock on!
Paul St. John
Maybe I was misunderstood but I surely agree with your post here, Paul. No negative meant.
Yes please Rock On Mansion!!!!
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I know that it costs money, but now it is time to write history. How do you want Elan School to be remember?
Normally history is written by those who won and if this task is forgotten the entire effort you and others have put in this case could be lost.
This is a very important point.
Related focus: Which politicians were most instrumental in ensuring elan's continued existence during those forty some odd years?
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That would be the ones who Sharon Terry and her maid were sending thousands of dollars to. There's a tracker for donations. I'll see if I can find it
Some more ways in which politicians or other folk of influence may have been involved or were exploited (I'm sure that there's a range of participation as well as awareness and/or understanding):
- various PR events, e.g., as in awards given out, announcements made, etc.;
- smoothing over or overriding interpretation of various complaints the Maine Dept. of Human Services (or whatever they're called) must have received over the years;
- facilitation or easement of certain zoning restrictions and/or land use classifications;
- government loans or grants;
- relationships with various law enforcement agencies, local, state, or national;
- relationships with various medical professionals who had vested interests in ensuring Elan's continued "success";
- skewed newspaper coverage; etc.
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Here are there more thoughts on where to go and where to speak out:
https://www.facebook.com/FamilySchoolTRUTH (https://www.facebook.com/FamilySchoolTRUTH)
http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/con ... 310cdc7fc4 (http://www.troubledteenindustry.com/content.php?s=cec56bf31b0a84c3a53994310cdc7fc4)
https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=gr ... 47965&ap=1 (https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_168122273247965&ap=1) (Elan The After Years)
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Hey Danny what's up your sleeve now? All it takes is some half assed apology to Wayne on facebook,and now you're one of the good guys?
just sayin'............
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BULLSHIT!!
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Ha,Ha,Ha. Come on, none-ya what other explanation is there? You really think Danny just changed his mind one day and became "anti-program"? Danny feeds off attention so he had to say what you all wanted him to say or he would be run off Fornits. Now that he's saying what you want him to say you are still attacking him, but it doesn't matter to Danny because even negative attention is fine with him, like the attention he got for dragging that girl. For weeks Fornits bashed Danny over it and Danny kept coming back for more attention that he craves.
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He's never apologised to anyone here anyway. He's been trying to play both sides of the fence since Wayne wrote that book.
First he denied everything.Then he justified everything. Now he's apologising for everything? Again I say
BULLSHIT!!
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Ok one time only, None Ya.
I am not sure just how old you are but if I had to guess you are not that far away from 60 yrs. old. Please try to at least show some of your age. Your rants above are outdated and a bit late. I haven't posted on this site for almost a year now. I just started to with any consistency about a month ago.
None Ya, I don't owe any one a apology here on this site, I don't feel sorry for anything I have written. I stopped what I was doing because there was no benefit in it for anybody. I had a chip on my shoulder and felt it was y'all fault it was there. I know crazy. So I teamed with Whooter and Max to bust balls as much as I could. Some of you made that job worthwhile, most did not.
I never led on that Elan or any type of program like Elan was good for anybody.
Don't pretend to know me or what I am doing or not doing. You have no idea, trust me on that. How I go about my advocacy is none of your business.
My relationship with Wayne is way above your bandwidth so stop trying to figure it out.
You may want to come over to the facebook group "Elan The After Years" and check us out otherwise move on.
Instead of tormenting other posters about what went on yesterday why don't you do what this thread says and post about what activity or cause you are involved with today.
Take Care
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My enemy's enemy is my friend? Through out history,that has almost never worked. Let's hear it for Danny everyone. He got Elan closed! NOT. And no. I don't understand where you are comming from,you're all over the road man. Now you want to side the victims? You tell me, is it a little too soon or just a little to late for that now? Tell me man. When you were "in the ring" at elan, did anyone ever get to you? You know ,nick you up a bit? Or have you always just been a bully? You know always picking on the little guys (and girls) just 'cause you could.I can't believe nobody took the pleasure of kicking your ass back then.Sorry man, I just can't buy into you playing the roll of the victim. You have typecasted yourself as the heavy. It's not like you to roll over.Something here stinks.Your brand of "advocacy" isn't needed.
LUV YA' DANNY!
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Danny owes me no apology. He never hurt me. But I know very well his type.He's not gonna' lay down and roll over and bark for us. Unless there's something in it for him. A piece of the next book maybe? The villian here does come with a built in audience. Perhaps parlay all that heat into maybe a reality tv show,where they put program survivors and the staff that tourtured them in the same house full of cameras. If you sell this idea I want a cut!
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My relationship with Danny is that we won't regress to the past, and try to be helpful to kids who are still tortured and abused by programs. The way I see it is that we can be helpful. I haven't figured out how yet, but I will, believe me. I'm not going to minimize anyone's feelings for him, or ask anyone to believe his intentions, but to watch his actions. So far I'm surprised by them, but not entirely. If I stop believing that people can change, then I'd give up entirely. Again, I'm not asking anyone to believe it.
The Face Book group is the only Elan group I've seen that hasn't turned into a flame war. That's progress. People from both sides are there, so it's pretty incredible to see.
Elan is closed. I know that's not enough for some people. I don't blame them. But my focus is on closing other programs like it. I don't want these kids to grow up to be me. I've done enough harm in the world because of what they turned me into that I want to try to do some good before I die.
As far as books, I'm not writing any more about Elan, and I asked Danny if he minded A Life Gone Awry going to print with the proceeds to go to CAFETY and Program Watch, and he agreed. Mitt Romney may well be the Republican candidate and he's tied in with Mel Sembler and that crew, so if the book takes off, it will bring awareness to what he and his party condoned for money and power.
I know the risks of our friendship, I'm not stupid. I was very wary at first, and the majority of our communications have been private, but I think his intentions are real. I don't believe in the "Enemy of my enemy" thing either. That's why we buried the past and found a common ground to build a friendship. No good has come from our fighting and back biting. My writer friends were completely turned off by that and started to turn away from the issue because of it. The issue is important, not me.
What I never told anyone is that after I put that book up, I started cutting myself again. That continued until a few weeks ago. I've stopped because my life has a purpose that makes sense. I wondered if my presence here has made the problem worse or better. I don't know. The thing is, I think if we work together it will make things better. It isn't stupid to try. There are kids who need our help. It would be stupid and selfish for me not to.
Now I've seen it all lol.
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Whenever there is pain, you have to tread lightly. Just a subtle touch can bring about a crippling feeling for us. I am done with pain either inflicting or being victimized by it. As I said there was never any benefit in it, really.
If there is to be amends they will be made over time, my actions will speak for me.
None Ya, please my friend lay down the sword it is over, not because I say but because we must. Time is short and valuable must we spend it this way, I say no. I would rather it be spent helping others.
Take care..
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Danny owes me no apology. He never hurt me. But I know very well his type.He's not gonna' lay down and roll over and bark for us. Unless there's something in it for him. A piece of the next book maybe? The villian here does come with a built in audience. Perhaps parlay all that heat into maybe a reality tv show,where they put program survivors and the staff that tourtured them in the same house full of cameras. If you sell this idea I want a cut!
none-ya what do you mean by "his type?" Are you referring to the here and now or when he was employed at Elan?
A front running bully who preys on the weak,beacuse it suits him at the time.Now it serves his intrest to play the victim card. Old Danny, new Danny, what's the difference? This kinder and gentler Danny came about kinda' sudden wouldn't you say?
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Pretty noble, consiering you were the one who painted us the picture of the devil incarnate himself(redundant?). I sorry It didn't seem to help you much, but exposing these people,and demanding accountability can only help the cause.You got the opportunity to confront your oppresser directly.And how you deal with that is certainly up to you and you only.But a lot of people will never get that chance,and will just have to hope to have all the "devils" outed. Danny is only 1 of many. Oh well rememberwhat they say,"Keep you freinds close........."
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The two worst abuser's fight,LOL, Fartshitsky justifies his behavior by blaming others,LOL. Mark and Sharon it's all their fault, It just goes to show how you two Ass-Holes are unable to stand up to real Power and Wisdom.No Art did nothing to close Elan and Aaron probably wanted to worked there to.But Sharon and me did work to get it closed and got our names in the paper for it.So did the rest of the people who really worked at it too.Not Art Warshawski the Abuser.Danny is big enough to admit his wrongs while Art blames everything on
someone else.Who's fault was it they fired you from Elan Art,?? I never knew that happened to anyone. Your scum Art and always will be and Sharon hates you more day by day.She know and see the monster and predator in you Art.And can't wait till your Jailed, for your crimes.
mark babitz
Hey Babbltits
Am pretty sure I would have to have committed a crime in order to be jailed. Why dont you grow up,grow a sack,and act like a man. All you have is lies and bile,and frankly Aaron isnt wrong,in that I'm pretty sure others are tired of reading your lies and temper tantrums. Are you 6 ? Am pretty sure that your blatent unhappiness can only be cured by returning to prison. Where you are home,and comfy. Dont you worry Marky,whether I have anything to do with it or not,thats where you are headed. And Sharon,well she is just the Butt of many jokes. I dont care that she hates me,in fact I welcome the hate. It is of oher own doing,upon following the advice of a 50 something, mental midget, that cannot stop himself from spreading hate and lies. Somewhere, in that pea-sized brain of yours,you think you are right with respect to all the bullshit and havoc you have caused here and elsewhere. Prison or not,you will be going to hell for eternity,this I am sure of.
Fired from elan.... Is that the very best you can do ?
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Pretty noble, consiering you were the one who painted us the picture of the devil incarnate himself(redundant?). I sorry It didn't seem to help you much, but exposing these people,and demanding accountability can only help the cause.You got the opportunity to confront your oppresser directly.And how you deal with that is certainly up to you and you only.But a lot of people will never get that chance,and will just have to hope to have all the "devils" outed. Danny is only 1 of many. Oh well rememberwhat they say,"Keep you freinds close........."
I appreciate that Elan people have been so cool about this. I think more than anything is that after 30 years it wasn't accomplishing anything to keep at it. When I stumbled in here I didn't have any idea about other programs. Then, Kelly Matthews showed the Straight Inc trailer and I was horrified. I thought this shit died in Maine.
Anyway, thanks
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I still believe that we should try to assist Sharon Terry ,Martin Kruglik, Jeffery Gottlieb and others (if they need and desire assistance) in finding justice for the sadistic ,violent ,brutal program that these people directed in their sociopathic ,psychotic ,serial child abusing predilections. Its just my opinion ,or my thoughts on where we survivors really need to go next .
Let us assist these sick bastards in finding their much needed justice for the criminal lunacy they proffiteered. We must not let the memories of those that no longer dance on this planet, die in vain, because of these men and woman's sicknesses, in their implemention of sadistic, systemic serial child abuse.
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Matt, that's a short list. These people should be hunted down(figureativly) and outed for who they are. Weather they ran and operated a program,or they were just paid staff. Remember the mantra of every captured nazi,"I was just following orders".
I CALL BULLSHIT! You first have to like abusing children. Sick bastards.
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I hear you None Ya and the list is short cause a lot of them are dead . Joe Ricci. Peter McCann, Dave Elderich, Ken Zaretzky , are the ones that I remember , These are the ones that made a career out of it zaretzky not so much ,yet he was a sick bastard., I am sure there are others like Marc rosenberg ,and of course the infamous Danny Bennison , Ronnie E. and Morris F. ....Though before bennison came along and zaretzky I kinda kept the list to those that were the directors. Yes there were many other directors and assistant directors though I didn't know them , they came after me . Jim Layman is dead.
I hear you I wonder where do you draw the line .Maybe it should be all these psychos cause you don't see any of them trying to expose and put their bosses in prison where they belong .
Maybe thats gonna be these sickos justice an early sudden death.....by Gods Hand of course . One can only pray though I still would like to see Kruglik and Gottlieb ,and Terry live long lives in prison.
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I hear you None Ya and the list is short cause a lot of them are dead . Joe Ricci. Peter McCann, Dave Elderich, Ken Zaretzky , are the ones that I remember , These are the ones that made a career out of it zaretzky not so much ,yet he was a sick bastard., I am sure there are others like Marc rosenberg ,and of course the infamous Danny Bennison , Ronnie E. and Morris F. ....Though before bennison came along and zaretzky I kinda kept the list to those that were the directors. Yes there were many other directors and assistant directors though I didn't know them , they came after me . Jim Layman is dead.
I hear you I wonder where do you draw the line .Maybe it should be all these psychos cause you don't see any of them trying to expose and put their bosses in prison where they belong .
Maybe thats gonna be these sickos justice an early sudden death.....by Gods Hand of course . One can only pray though I still would like to see Kruglik and Gottlieb ,and Terry live long lives in prison.
Well then Matt you should put yourself on the list because like most of us you worked staff in re-entry. You went down to New York City and snatched kids from home and brought them back to Elan. None ya you participated yourself as being higher resident status and hurt people. So please guys none of us get to walk away clean. None Ya you are the Germans (Nazis) actually you are the most despicable of all because you hide behind a vail of stupidity.
The only reason Matt and yourself are saying these things is because you are immature and reckless. Actually both of you kinda of prove my point about bitter 50+yr old men.
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Matt, that's a short list. These people should be hunted down(figureativly) and outed for who they are. Weather they ran and operated a program,or they were just paid staff. Remember the mantra of every captured nazi,"I was just following orders".
I CALL BULLSHIT! You first have to like abusing children. Sick bastards.
None Ya if you haven't noticed nobody really gives a shit what you call it. Maybe you should really check your motives behind all this reckless verbiage your spewing.
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Ah, good ol' Tribes of Libya. Now that you are outside, free, can you trust each other enough to build peace or must the war go on?
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What the hell are you talking about. "Higher resident status"? What the hell does that even mean?. I ran away from my program twice. The program never harmed me,but it really worked a number on a lot of other people. I was never a victim. I was "inconvienced" out of about 5 mon. of my life.Some people spent years in their programes and had to deal with bullies like you Danny.Think of guys like Stack Jones, who sat on his 10-10's on the FRONT ROW for over 2 yrs. without breaking.I never hurt anyone. Iv'e always rooted for "David over Goliath".In fact I helped someone else escape,who was about to graduate!
And by the way, some people here give you grief about AA. As far as I know, AA doesn't kidnap people from their bedrooms in the middle of the night and drag them kicking and screaming into meetings. And if it keeps you sober,then I believe addiction to AA is less harmfull than addiction to alchohol.
Danny if this is you sober...........
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What the hell are talking about. "Higher resident status"? What the hell does that even mean?. I ran away from my program twice. The program never harmed me,but it really worked a number on a lot of other people. I was never a victim. I was "inconvienced" out of about 5 mon. of my life.Some people spant years in their programes and had to deal with bullies like you Danny.Think of guys like Stack Jones, who sat on his 10-10's on the FRONT ROW for over 2 yrs. without breaking.I never hurt anyone. Iv'e always rooted for "David over Goliath".In fact I helped someone else escape,who was about to graduate!
And by the way, some people here give you grief about AA. As far as I know, AA doesn't kidnap people from their bedrooms in the middle of the night and drag them kicking and screaming into meatinds. And if it keeps you sober,then I believe addiction to AA is less harmfull than addiction to alchohol.
Danny if this is you sober...........
Well I figured if you can make up stuff about me and splatter it all over the site, why not me too. I mean who even knows what your story is None Ya nobody here can even verify if you are a lying or not. If you attacked people, beat the crap out of people or were even in a program. Who knows None Ya.
I on the other hand I have many who know me, some have one version and some like yourself like to make up another version. But the fact is people on survivor sites were there at Elan when I was there.
None Ya who gives a shit about AA it seems only you. I left that circus years ago.
The only bully here is you None Ya and you keep trying to bully me not that this is possible but verbally you try. You are such a nitwit it isn't funny, you are calling me a bully because I defend myself. What is funny is if I had never been a 17-18 yr. old staff member for Elan you wouldn't even be trying to bust mt balls about how I defended myself with these lunatics on this site. All because I spent a little over a year at Elan 35 years ago as a staff member at 17 years old. I should not ever defend myself because I will then have to face the wrath of None ya and be called a abuser.
You are a fool and the worst kind of manipulator of people. I hope this whole sick twisted game you enjoy playing here (with peoples lives) works for you.
None Ya people like yourself actually do so much more damage to survivors then you think, really I mean this. Because you continue to mindfuck survivors long after it was necessary.
What you fail to get I was a survivor for 10 years in freaking hellholes worse then you will ever know. I spent 18 months as a employee because at 17 I had no where to go and you want to bust my balls and challenge me on my abuse record.
None Ya I have read what you bring to fornits and one thing I have realized you really are a first class idiot.
Take care of yourself.
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What the hell are you talking about. "Higher resident status"? What the hell does that even mean?. I ran away from my program twice. The program never harmed me,but it really worked a number on a lot of other people. I was never a victim. I was "inconvienced" out of about 5 mon. of my life.
Then what the hell are you doing here fucking with me. I spent 10 years of my adolescence being abused, mindfucked, molested, beaten up and who knows what else.
You were inconvenienced, I really wish you were standing in front of me right now.
You are a despicable human being.
I wasted my time talking with a fucking idiot like you, I am the fool.
Good bye.
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It seems I hit a nerv. And your right,you don't know anything about me. But people here do know you, and they hate you.Love me or hate he Iv'e never waivered on my position. You on the other hand have force fed us 2 completely different stories.180 degrees apart. If anyone else here believes you I'd like to hear from them. (execpt for our moderator of course) I don't see your legions of supporters.So take your indignant act and tell it walkin' pal. Remember good Danny,bad Danny, they both can't be telling the truth. My money is on bad Danny.
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Moderator, Danny is no threat. You can back off.
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What the hell are talking about. "Higher resident status"? What the hell does that even mean?. I ran away from my program twice. The program never harmed me,but it really worked a number on a lot of other people. I was never a victim. I was "inconvienced" out of about 5 mon. of my life.Some people spant years in their programes and had to deal with bullies like you Danny.Think of guys like Stack Jones, who sat on his 10-10's on the FRONT ROW for over 2 yrs. without breaking.I never hurt anyone. Iv'e always rooted for "David over Goliath".In fact I helped someone else escape,who was about to graduate!
And by the way, some people here give you grief about AA. As far as I know, AA doesn't kidnap people from their bedrooms in the middle of the night and drag them kicking and screaming into meatinds. And if it keeps you sober,then I believe addiction to AA is less harmfull than addiction to alchohol.
Danny if this is you sober...........
Well I figured if you can make up stuff about me and splatter it all over the site, why not me too. I mean who even knows what your story is None Ya nobody here can even verify if you are a lying or not. If you attacked people, beat the crap out of people or were even in a program. Who knows None Ya.
I on the other hand I have many who know me, some have one version and some like yourself like to make up another version. But the fact is people on survivor sites were there at Elan when I was there.
None Ya who gives a shit about AA it seems only you. I left that circus years ago.
The only bully here is you None Ya and you keep trying to bully me not that this is possible but verbally you try. You are such a nitwit it isn't funny, you are calling me a bully because I defend myself. What is funny is if I had never been a *17-18 yr. old staff member for Elan you wouldn't even be trying to bust mt balls about how I defended myself with these lunatics on this site. All because I spent a little over a year at Elan 35 years ago as a *staff member at 17 years old. I should not ever defend myself because I will then have to face the wrath of None ya and be called a abuser.
You are a fool and the worst kind of manipulator of people. I hope this whole sick twisted game you enjoy playing here (with peoples lives) works for you.
None Ya people like yourself actually do so much more damage to survivors then you think, really I mean this. Because you continue to mindfuck survivors long after it was necessary.
What you fail to get I was a survivor for 10 years in freaking hellholes worse then you will ever know. I spent 18 months as a *employee because at 17 I had no where to go and you want to bust my balls and challenge me on my abuse record.
None Ya I have read what you bring to fornits and one thing I have realized you really are a first class idiot.
Take care of yourself.
* ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
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It seems I hit a nerv. And your right,you don't know anything about me. But people here do know you, and they hate you.Love me or hate he Iv'e never waivered on my position. You on the other hand have force fed us 2 completely different stories.180 degrees apart. If anyone else here believes you I'd like to hear from them. (execpt for our moderator of course) I don't see your legions of supporters.So take your indignant act and tell it walkin' pal. Remember good Danny,bad Danny, they both can't be telling the truth. My money is on bad Danny.
You hit a nerv...That is your head hitting the wall again dumbass. None Nuts you are almost 60 years of age and your mind works in this way, Really. Good Danny and Bad Danny. :rofl:
No I would almost bet my entire years worth of income that nobody I know would even bother to engage you in this moronic bullshit.
So please proceed with the condemnation...you have my blessing.
NONE YA, HEREBY STATES THAT DANIEL L. BENNISON IS A "BAD DANNY".
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It seems I hit a nerv. And your right,you don't know anything about me. But people here do know you, and they hate you.Love me or hate he Iv'e never waivered on my position. You on the other hand have force fed us 2 completely different stories.180 degrees apart. If anyone else here believes you I'd like to hear from them. (execpt for our moderator of course) I don't see your legions of supporters.So take your indignant act and tell it walkin' pal. Remember good Danny,bad Danny, they both can't be telling the truth. My money is on bad Danny.
You hit a nerv...That is your head hitting the wall again dumbass. None Nuts you are almost 60 years of age and your mind works in this way, Really. Good Danny and Bad Danny. :rofl:
No I would almost bet my entire years worth of income that nobody I know would even bother to engage you in this moronic bullshit.
So please proceed with the condemnation...you have my blessing.
NONE YA, HEREBY STATES THAT DANIEL L. BENNISON IS A "BAD DANNY".
Danny none-ya has always been nice to you. You should be thankful for that. lol :feedtrolls:
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I hear you None Ya and the list is short cause a lot of them are dead . Joe Ricci. Peter McCann, Dave Elderich, Ken Zaretzky , are the ones that I remember , These are the ones that made a career out of it zaretzky not so much ,yet he was a sick bastard., I am sure there are others like Marc rosenberg ,and of course the infamous Danny Bennison , Ronnie E. and Morris F. ....Though before bennison came along and zaretzky I kinda kept the list to those that were the directors. Yes there were many other directors and assistant directors though I didn't know them , they came after me . Jim Layman is dead.
I hear you I wonder where do you draw the line .Maybe it should be all these psychos cause you don't see any of them trying to expose and put their bosses in prison where they belong .
Maybe thats gonna be these sickos justice an early sudden death.....by Gods Hand of course . One can only pray though I still would like to see Kruglik and Gottlieb ,and Terry live long lives in prison.
Well then Matt you should put yourself on the list because like most of us you worked staff in re-entry. You went down to New York City and snatched kids from home and brought them back to Elan. None ya you participated yourself as being higher resident status and hurt people. So please guys none of us get to walk away clean. None Ya you are the Germans (Nazis) actually you are the most despicable of all because you hide behind a vail of stupidity.
The only reason Matt and yourself are saying these things is because you are immature and reckless. Actually both of you kinda of prove my point about bitter 50+yr old men.
Danny I am a very happy individual , another assumption about me that you are just wrong again....
And Danny you are the biggest pathological liar I know to man . Or you are the biggest idiot (by the way it is good to see you in your true form, the sadistic survivor abuser that you are) you maybe able to change your clothes but you are still the same deviate ,sicko that work at elan for 22 months and of those 22 months you were a freaking adult .You like apples Danny ....................................
Well how do you like dem apples ....you simply are incapable of telling the truth about anything , it is astounding man you are a freak of nature .
And as for a miserable old punk you certainly are the top ,the pinnachle of misery . do we want to commisserate with you ...lol...on your cult page devoted to yourself . No Danny I don't think I do. I don't want to Commiserate with you because you are an abuser of survivors of elan, post elan ......What a concept
Danny Bennison you were a paid adult employee. you worked there from 1-77 to 11-78 , you bitter birthday is in what march ,what the 5 of march ....Come on Danny you can add at least up to 22 cant you .I mean you may have to take off yur socks and shoes ,.....You got paid ,you got a car ,you got an appartment (house ) you got paid mutherfucker ......
I had no choice to but to be re-entry staff. I was still in the program ,after what I went thru which I know a punk like you could not have survived ,and thats just a fact ....the directors could not afford to have me go out in the real world ,I am sure that I don't have to explain why I have posted about it else where ....
I was still a resident ......you danny were an adult and an assistant director ....I was still a minor and I was still a resident dumbass. I was told that they were going to pay me 20 a twenty dollar stipend every two weeks ,whoa boy thats the same as you getting paid what was it 150 per week, its what you said ......you really are deranged ....
Now danny wrap your head around this dip lips ,I had to do this re-entry position until I graduated which was roughly 3 and half months later ....again Danny Bennison I know by your math it is the same ....in fact Danny Bennison you once posted that there were many people who never heard about re-entry staff and as far as you were concerned that position didn't exist and that I was lying about that ....ya bozo that you posted on facebook in one of your many nasty low brow attacks ...(.a little fuck you from me to you for that Danny Bennison )....Now Danny Bennison while I get 20 dollars every two weeks and I had to ask to get it ,and McCann your daddy (since you say you were hoping that elan would be surrogate parents for you {huh}....on your cult of Danny Bennison ...the after the what ever the hell it was years ) use to tell me I didn't deserve it , because I didn't do anything ....Yeah Mark Rosenberg taught me how to play spades .yeah Danny I played a lot of cards ....Hey idiot do you really think that they could give me anything to do after all I had just stabbed on of your dearest friends about 10 months earlier which you seem to have remotely witnessed and felt thru the powers of powerlessness It had to have been this since you weren't in the prograsm until almost two months after the incident did your dearest friend who you grew up with as how you seem to try to make it sound ......you really are an idiot .....it just blows my mind .
Well Danny Bennison while I am doing my forced re-entry as staff ....I had no choice in the matter .My mother is paying the elan corporation 1200 dollars a month .....until I graduated ....no Danny Bennison I am not the same as you ,I will never be the same you and you simply will be the same miserable little sadistic ,deviant , pathological lying sociopathic punk that you were before elan and during elan and after elan ..... you will take the way that you are to your grave when God comes for you , you can't change ......you have proved it ....
And Danny I never snatched kids from home and delivered them to elan . I helped pick up a kid from a mid town hotel that was going to elan in NYC. I was asked to drive to pick up this kid . the kid was from Columbia ,and he didn't speak a word of English (kinda like you , ah except its that you don't speak it as well as read either ) There was no snatching as you like to distort . I was a minor at the time and Peter Mcann told me to do this ,and Danny Bennison I did not get paid for doing this .....there fore Danny Bennison in your inept way to distort the truth , I am glad that I am happy to help you understand and clarify for you what is the truth ......
Which you just don't seem to ever grasp ....No Danny you could only wish that my hands are as dirty as yours and while you are wishing for that in one hand try pooping in the other and see which one fills up the more faster ....(just for you Danny Bennison that little redneck speak english )
One thing that is true you the queerest Georgia peach I ever did see , how you twist and turn to make your involement look like it doesn't stink is amazing . ...I walk on water compared to you Danny Bennison and you know it ..
What the fuck are you calling None Ya a Nazis ....man that is worse that low .....you Danny Bennison don't have a veil to had behind (though but I bet you secretly did wish you had one on ) you are just plain stupid and man you are so sick that you never realize just how freaking sick you truly are .....
It really sucks Danny Bennison to have to stoop to your level of crassness , it really does suck man ,its not something that I do in my everyday life of dealing with people ,its truly not how I like to relate to good people ,it sucks Danny Bennison because its the only way that you really seem to understand reality .....and man I feel sorry really freakin sorry for you ......
Yes Danny Bennison you miserable bitter old frustrated punk....
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What the hell are talking about. "Higher resident status"? What the hell does that even mean?. I ran away from my program twice. The program never harmed me,but it really worked a number on a lot of other people. I was never a victim. I was "inconvienced" out of about 5 mon. of my life.Some people spant years in their programes and had to deal with bullies like you Danny.Think of guys like Stack Jones, who sat on his 10-10's on the FRONT ROW for over 2 yrs. without breaking.I never hurt anyone. Iv'e always rooted for "David over Goliath".In fact I helped someone else escape,who was about to graduate!
And by the way, some people here give you grief about AA. As far as I know, AA doesn't kidnap people from their bedrooms in the middle of the night and drag them kicking and screaming into meatinds. And if it keeps you sober,then I believe addiction to AA is less harmfull than addiction to alchohol.
Danny if this is you sober...........
Well I figured if you can make up stuff about me and splatter it all over the site, why not me too. I mean who even knows what your story is None Ya nobody here can even verify if you are a lying or not. If you attacked people, beat the crap out of people or were even in a program. Who knows None Ya.
I on the other hand I have many who know me, some have one version and some like yourself like to make up another version. But the fact is people on survivor sites were there at Elan when I was there.
None Ya who gives a shit about AA it seems only you. I left that circus years ago.
The only bully here is you None Ya and you keep trying to bully me not that this is possible but verbally you try. You are such a nitwit it isn't funny, you are calling me a bully because I defend myself. What is funny is if I had never been a *17-18 yr. old staff member for Elan you wouldn't even be trying to bust mt balls about how I defended myself with these lunatics on this site. All because I spent a little over a year at Elan 35 years ago as a *staff member at 17 years old. I should not ever defend myself because I will then have to face the wrath of None ya and be called a abuser.
You are a fool and the worst kind of manipulator of people. I hope this whole sick twisted game you enjoy playing here (with peoples lives) works for you.
None Ya people like yourself actually do so much more damage to survivors then you think, really I mean this. Because you continue to mindfuck survivors long after it was necessary.
What you fail to get I was a survivor for 10 years in freaking hellholes worse then you will ever know. I spent 18 months as a *employee because at 17 I had no where to go and you want to bust my balls and challenge me on my abuse record.
None Ya I have read what you bring to fornits and one thing I have realized you really are a first class idiot.
Take care of yourself.
* ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
Danny Bennison you have officially earned the award for being the biggest liar known to man . I mean My God punk ,you really are totally incapable of telling the truth....You actually believe your lies .Thats the really screwed up part ....Danny Dennison your bitter birthday is what March 5 (it could be the third but for the beenyfit of it all lets just say March 5 is its bitter birth day ) Danny Bennison you have posted here there and everywhere (almost sounds like a beetles song ) that you started working at elan as a paid employee on January of 1977. when in jan ...we will never know you can count on that ........you turned 18 on March of that year (1977)either the 3rd or the 5th ...yeah I know I said the 5 for his bittebirthday and you left in 11 of 78 .A little over a year would be what 13 months .I think 14 months is stretching it .....Danny Bennison you worked at that hell hole for over 11plus twelve is really 23 months you distorted broken elan tool ...Lets see here 23 months minus 18 months ='s come on Danny you can do it ....what really ok Danny Bennison I will do it for you it equals 5 months ...seriously thats cheapening your elan cred by ALMOST HALF A FREAKING YEAR .... I mean your sadistiic ,deviant, in driven psychotic ,sociopathic ,male sexuality detecting (its in Waynes book ) god given right to abuse human beings by ALMOST SIX MONTHS ...shit Danny Bennison why all the back peddaling , is it because you are lying .....or is it because you really are a distorted sick punk who can never tell the truth ....you chose Danny Bennison .
And Danny Bennison you assume that people hate you (I don't ...I pity and feel sorry for you ) because you worked at elan as an assistant director at elan .....Please Don't Flatter Yurself ........, from what I gather from seeing (and having been the recipient )of your vicious attacks on all people from many programs not just survivors of elan but survivors of all programs (thats one thing I will give you Danny Benension you are an equal oppournistic abuser of all survivors from all programs ,you don't descrimanate WOHoo)that is partly why people hate you , you don't or cant express remose and you keep on hurting people. You refuse to apologize to the people that you haverhurt and you refuse to make ammends ......and you keep attacking and your excuse is that you are a bad man who cannot controll his impulses and it is all elans fault ...please elan was 26 years ago for some of us ........please for all of the human race please go see a doctor , get some help ,cause man that excuse really is no excuse to me . you won't though you will shake it off and simply continue to abuse if not here some where on the vast internet .
You state that you have not talked about AA in years .... BULLSHIT ....my god boy it hasn't even been a year and a half since you busted on many straight survivors right here on fornits and you were trying to recruit people to AA ....please its in the google archives if it is not on here because you might have deleted your abuse .. (it rushes to delete its trail of abuses ...lol..)..Hell it (you ) even went so far to try as to cram AA down peoples throats ....Bennison you are such a freakin liar and you really suck at lying ....just so you know .....I know I know you just cant help it .
And in your warped mind that makes it all okay . your powerlessness over your ability to controll your bad behavour .......What is so fucked up is that that so called parody of the powerlessness thing is really true as how it applies to your lamelessness to be a decent human being .....No people hate you Danny because you feel that you have some god given right to abuse people , it has nothing to do with the fact that you try so hard to massage into the nothingness , as you try to deny your culpability and deny responsibility for your actions of being an assistant director of elan Minimize your little tiny tiny involvement and then scream like the elan bioitch that your are,,,,,ooooooh everybody hates me because I was the big bad assisant director at elan .
No it has to do with the fact that you are a first class abuser of human beings who are survivors of programs . you look for what you think are the wounded and weak , the ones that you seem to deem damaged ,and you hurt ,you really try to hurt and you smile as you hurt ,you get off as you hurt .....I guess Danny Bennison people just don't like sadists ,and you are an extremly hurtful person ,that is devoid of any conscience what so ever ....you really are a freak of nature ......And thank God there maybe only 50 of your types roaming in this country, and hopefully they will catch them soon before they kill again .Elan nuetured you ,just couldn't fix the your many mental illnesses. Whether you will actually kill someone ,I can only speculate ,and I think its a 50 /50 chance ,thats just my opinion.....
no Danny Bennison you are indefensible , seriously you have no defense for what you are , you are what you is and well that is why people hate you ..... You are so demented that ,it is acTUALLY BECOMING so sureal . we ALL KNOW YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN PROGRAMS, you just like hurting people.
you know what you really should do is get yourself a copy of Abnormal psychology ,get a book for a 102 psyc class you will read about yourself and you will come to understand that the as you call dispicable names that you saw I call you are simply observations of how you treat people on the internet ,here there and really everywhere . They are in my opinion descriptive concise words of how I amd many others see you.
Here is a little secrect Danny if you didn't act this way ,then I wouldn't see you this way ....but you have attacked for since March of 2010 and you continue to attack to this day ......you are one sick pathological lying , maligant narcissistic in my opinion and you really should get a doctor to look at that for you. you prognosis in my opinion well Danny they may need to put you on meliril, Haldol , just relax Danny Bennison and enjoy that ride.
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you were NINETEEN 4 months shy of being twenty when you either were fired or quit working at elan ,dummy.
you were an adult ...and you said you made what 7500 during your "employment " at the most sadistic hell hole on the face of the continetal U.S.
Danny I might have made maybe 140 dollars for my stipend doing forced re-entry staff as part of my program experience yet my mother was linning joe ricci's pockets with $4,200 until I graduated . No Danny Bennison your guilt is yours don't try to make me carry your guilt .I will not and do not see my hands dirty like yours thats your business , not mine and thats just a fact bozo.
And Danny you broken elan tool please take your shit and just eat it , you tiresome old bully .
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Matt,
I was born 3/1/59
I started working as staff 2/77
I was Ass. Director for 2 months, from 2/78 - 4/78
I stopped working as staff 6/78.
I left Elan 8/78.
This is the best recollection and most accurate to date.
If you need any help just ask. Everything has been updated.
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Matt,
I was born 3/1/59
I started working as staff 2/77
I was Ass. Director for 2 months, from 2/78 - 4/78
I stopped working as staff 6/78.
I left Elan 8/78.
This is the best recollection and most accurate to date.
If you need any help just ask. Everything has been updated.
Wow so you are saying that you lied then when you told us those dates or are you lying now ......Danny my esteemed abuser ,why would I ask help from you. And when you say updated you mean you have gone back and deleted all your posts where you stated the other dates that thesev are the new and improved dates you now seem to spew . ....man Danny Bennison you are one hoot of a pathological liar .......You got kruglik and Sharon and Gottlieb to change your records ......It is that old "cry wolf thing " you lie so much that I can't take anything you say as true.
I don't believe you and as for your recollection ..man really are you suffering from early onset alhzsheimer disease? you might want to get that checked out also . Cheers to your powerlessness I am glad it brings you peace .
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you were NINETEEN 4 months shy of being twenty when you either were fired or quit working at elan ,dummy.
you were an adult ...and you said you made what 7500 during your "employment " at the most sadistic hell hole on the face of the continetal U.S.
Danny I might have made maybe 140 dollars for my stipend doing forced re-entry staff as part of my program experience yet my mother was linning joe ricci's pockets with $4,200 until I graduated . No Danny Bennison your guilt is yours don't try to make me carry your guilt .I will not and do not see my hands dirty like yours thats your business , not mine and thats just a fact bozo.
And Danny you broken elan tool please take your shit and just eat it , you tiresome old bully .
Matt, please consider that your hand in the affairs of the place is yours. What you did may also have been reprehensible - don't try to perpetuate the reprehensibility by trying to force the past actions into his face. It's not going to do you any good and it not going to do Danny any good. In fact, the rest of the board has to put up with this shit. Danny has conceded he has done wrong and that he is working on stopping the nasty habits he learned in his childhood. The question then becomes, what do you expect Danny to be doing now - with or without changing his ways?
And do not tell me I do not belong in this conversation because it is clear that making this publicly available, you're forcing your shit into the faces of the other users on this forum. It would be better to not play the childish bully game and admit that you might be able to rise from whatever you learned at this (Elan) place. Show that you can become that healthy human who can rise above the squalour.
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WELCOME TO Rucker Park! :feedtrolls:
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Xelebes wrote:
"what do you expect Danny to be doing now "
He can go back to facebook where people actually like him. Not to much positive reinforcement for him here.And don't worry, I won't follow you over there. I hate FB.
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Xelebes wrote:
"what do you expect Danny to be doing now "
He can go back to facebook where people actually like him. Not to much positive reinforcement for him here.And don't worry, I won't follow you over there. I hate FB.
none-ya you're still FIXATED on your master Danny? lol :twofinger:
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It was you I quoted dumbass
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It was you I quoted dumbass
Easy there ya' old fart. lol TAKE YOUR MEDS-, GO TO AA AND GO SEE YOUR THERAPIST! lol
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It was you I quoted dumbass
Easy there ya' old fart. lol TAKE YOUR MEDS-, GO TO AA AND GO SEE YOUR THERAPIST! lol
The DD Form 214, officially DD Form 214 "Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty", but generally referred to as a "DD 214", is a document of the United States Department of Defense, issued upon a military service member's retirement, separation or discharge from active-duty military.
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It was you I quoted dumbass
none-ya will back soon to troll fornits. lol :twofinger:
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Sounds like dd form 214 is code for don't ask don't tell!
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Sounds like dd form 214 is code for don't ask don't tell!
none-ya must be dreaming about men again! It is okay to come out of the closet none-ya.. lol :twofinger:
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Wayne, Willie was never I REPEAT NEVER in Elan 7 the whole time I was there.
Nice try though.
Wayne just stop, throw the shovel away. You are grasping at straws.