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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => News Items => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 15, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
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New book coming out soon which includes a lot of the early history of AARC. Is very positive.
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Who wrote the book? By that I mean, not what name is on it, but who actually sat down at their computer to write it?
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You will just have to wait and see. Should dispell a lot of the bullshit, especially when comparing AARC to KIDS.
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My understanding is it is written by a graduate of AARC, and covers all parts of their life, not just AARC. Book should be available by the beginning of 2005. It was partly written to show people how the process works at AARC, and show the success with a seriously addicted youth.
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So in other words it is another biased testimonial that is slightly more than a strategic marketing attempt made by an AARC graduate to influence the masses that they have a successful modality of treatment for the chemically addicted adolescent?
As a fresh green graduate from the cultic rehab that I graduated from years ago, I would have been equally as eager to publish such an egocentrically motivated autobiography giving all praise to my program. In hindsight, I am glad I never penned such a thing. Today, it is a very different book in which I would write regarding that whole experience.
I would like to read someone's side by side comparison as to how AARC differs from the KIDS franchise as you mentioned.
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A biased testimonial? Well, if you consider that it is from someone who actually went through the program, then yes, it is biased. Who better to write about the program than a participant? You? A person who hasn't been through it? As for being a "green graduate", the author graduated over 10 years ago, is healthy and prosperous, and does not work for AARC. But your assumptions are telling. Perhaps keeping an open mind is difficult for you, but give it a try.
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My super enhanced bionic cultvision sees through your hint of dimly shrouded program propaganda.
This compounds the difficulty of "keeping an open mind".
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touche! Finally some homour! Now that is an indication of intelligence, and perhaps some recovery as well. I hope you read the book. I think you will like it. Namaste.
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I cant wait for the book.
Sign me up for a few copies
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It has taken longer than expected, but the book should be out soon. Stay tuned to this space!
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AARC is a lot like Capitalism. It's got many problems and some people don't do well with it. Still I have not seen anything else that works better.
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"NIH Panel Finds that Scare Tactics for Violence Prevention are Harmful -- Good news is that positive approaches show promise"
The NIH study found that these are better alternatives than using scare tactics and the like:
http://www.fftinc.com/model.php (http://www.fftinc.com/model.php)
and
http://www.mstservices.com/text/treatment.html (http://www.mstservices.com/text/treatment.html)
and see this for a list of programs in different states:
http://www.mstservices.com/text/licensed_agencies.htm (http://www.mstservices.com/text/licensed_agencies.htm)
Maybe read up on some alternatives that have been PROVEN to work?? NoOtice any striking differences that could be the reason they work better??
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You have done some homework. The first web page you list http://www.fftinc.com/model.php (http://www.fftinc.com/model.php)
looks good. It seems to have a mission statement, goals, objectives, re-evaluation and re-focus with an eye to relapse as part of recovery. Hmmm...seems like AARC without any commitment but looks good.
The second one http://www.mstservices.com/text/treatment.html (http://www.mstservices.com/text/treatment.html)
I thought had a lot of big words, blamed everyone else including the system and would provide a lot of jobs for people in he social services industry on the taxpayers dollar. Would be interested to see their real success rates. The page talks around the issue of success in vague terms:
"preliminary findings from our current study evaluating MST as an alternative to psychiatric hospitalization (Henggeler, Rowland, et al., 1997) show an 85 percent reduction in days hospitalized, which should translate to considerable cost savings when the formal cost analyses are conducted for this project. Finally, these cost savings are especially noteworthy when the superior clinical outcomes and reductions in criminal activity demonstrated by MST are considered."
I guess that means they are helping those people needing help??
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Well so you're going to ignore what the research says, the research done by the National Institute of Health...OK.
And the first one is nothing like AARC. If you are confused and think this, it is because AARC has taken the vocabulary from more acceptable approaches and redefined everything in their own sick way. That would be the source of your confusion. Notice that everything also applies to the parents. The method of achieving the goals listed, I promise, are nothing remotely like what goes on at AARC. They teach then how to ask for what they need. Something severely lacking at AARC. They teach them how to communicate their feelings (no blaming) but this means their REAL feelings. This would include anger, fear, confusion, anything. AARC doesn't let that happen, it's only certain feelings. Look at the therapist skills list to see what they value. This is things like positive reinforcement, reframing things in a more positive light and things like that.
I dont' understand your last statement.
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In other words, the therapist would model the behavior the parents should, to get them to talk about their feelings, and then get them to say it to the parents. There isn't any lecturing or criticism here. It's all very affirming and based on responding positively. That's how the underlying stuff comes up...through trust. TRUST. SAFETY. You have it all backwards.
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Here's a GREAT resource for Canada family therapy:
http://www.eft.ca/ (http://www.eft.ca/)
Try that, it might be explained better but I think its very similar.
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And try this
http://www.emotionfocusedtherapy.org/ (http://www.emotionfocusedtherapy.org/)
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And one more:
http://www.gottman.com/ (http://www.gottman.com/)
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And the mother of all family therapy:
http://www.familysystemstherapy.com/ (http://www.familysystemstherapy.com/)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_systems_therapy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_systems_therapy)
Family Systems Therapy
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While I'm at it...
Read about Attachment Theory too. You can look it up.
After you've read all of this, then we can talk.
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Interesting sites. I have looked at them and here is what they advertise:
http://www.eft.ca/ (http://www.eft.ca/) deals with counselling couples and has no focus that I can see on the entire family or on addiction amoung teens.
http://www.emotionfocusedtherapy.org/ (http://www.emotionfocusedtherapy.org/) sounds cool and it would be fun to participate. It is geared again toward couples or psycho-social counsellors who deal with a client base. No mention of addiction therapy for families amoung teens.
http://www.gottman.com/ (http://www.gottman.com/) is a weekend workshop for homo or hetero sexual couples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_systems_therapy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_systems_therapy) is a very educational psychology site, thank you.
http://www.familysystemstherapy.com/ (http://www.familysystemstherapy.com/) doesn't go into much detail about it's program but does list a component related to addiction. If you have more on this site I would be interested.
I appreciate your feedback with these sites. Not much of a challenge to review though.
As for your comment on not understanding my last statement in the previous post, it was a bit of sarcasm aimed at the quote which spoke to the mission being solely about cost savings around addiction therapy and not about the rehabilitation or recovery program for the person involved.
I am confident we who visit this site will hear from you soon....
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What about attachment theory??
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Actually, each of those sites represents an entire approach or theory of yes couples, but also family therapy. A few of the sites may not explain a lot, but each one represents a distinct approach to therapy that have all been researched and proven effective. You may need to check out some of the books they've written to get more info. And here's the eft site's family therapy site:http://www.ocfi.ca/. Read the articles these places have, there's a lot more info than I think you've read. LIke this http://www.eft.ca/Abouteft/abouteft.htm (http://www.eft.ca/Abouteft/abouteft.htm) Yes it says couples but it's also applied to families, as you can see from the other site I listed, and http://www.eft.ca/Abouteft/abouteftrecentarticle.htm (http://www.eft.ca/Abouteft/abouteftrecentarticle.htm). This is the same theory used at http://www.ocfi.ca (http://www.ocfi.ca) with families (and the same people). REally, you aren't showing much initiate here...read a little, okay??
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and all this relates to severe adolescent addiction and the resulting criminal and antisocial behavior how? Addiction is not just behavioral problems or family systems problem but a severe mental emotional and physical condition.
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Well, as is explained in the NIH study for violent adolescent offenders, those therapies listed were better suited than others, and especially boot-camp or forceful type therapies. It was looking at kids who got into trouble with the law and ended up in therapy, and found FAMILY therapy at home with a positive and supportive approach the most effective. I feel like we're going in circles. I was putting those other theories up ONE because they would also help but TWO because they are similar to the ones listed by the NIH which you were having some difficulty understanding. I think that is mainly due to the fact that AARC twisted all of the vocabulary around backwards. I just wanted you to see how most people use those words.
Also, just an interesting note, in the DSM, the bible for making diagnoses....there is no such thing as addiction. There is one called dependence, however it states it usually doesnt appear until the 20s or later. It says if it shows up in the teen years, it is probably more related to a conduct disorder than anything else. Conduct disorder would be like violence etc. That takes us back to the more positive therapies, not something like AARC.
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Their take on addiction treatment
http://www.psych.org/public_info/substance.cfm (http://www.psych.org/public_info/substance.cfm)
Treatment
The first step on the road to recovery is recognition of the problem, but often this process is complicated by a lack of understanding about substance abuse and addiction or, worse, denial. In these cases, what often prompts treatment are interventions by concerned friends and family. Many health centers and other institutions offer screenings free of charge for various disorders throughout the year. For example, screening tests for alcohol abuse are usually offered in early April.
Because substance abuse affects many aspects of a person?s life, multiple forms of treatment are often required. For most, a combination of medication and individual or group therapy is most effective. Medications are used to control the drug cravings and relieve the severe symptoms of withdrawal. Therapy can help addicted individuals understand their behavior and motivations, develop higher self-esteem, and cope with stress. Other treatment methods that may be used as part of the rehabilitative process include
Hospitalization
Therapeutic communities?highly controlled, drug-free environments
Outpatient programs, including methadone maintenance for heroin addiction
Finally, in addition to treatment, self-help groups for substance-abusing individuals (Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous) as well as their family members (Al-Anon or Nar-Anon Family Groups) are useful in providing support and reinforcing messages learned in treatment. These organizations can be found in your local telephone directory and below.
A comprehensive review of treatments for substance abuse and addiction can be found in the APA Practice Guideline for the Treatment of Patients With Substance Use Disorders, available from American Psychiatric Press for $22.95 plus shipping and handling. Also available for those wishing to quit smoking is the Practice Guideline for the Treatment of Patients With Nicotine Dependence. Call 1-800-368-5777 for more information or to order.
The American Psychiatric Association is a cosponsor of the National Public Education Campaign on Clinical Depression in cooperation with the National Mental Health Association, National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, National Depressive and Manic Depressive Association and the DEPRESSION/Awareness, Recognition, and Treatment (D/ART) Program, National Institute of Mental Health.
Produced by the APA Joint Commission on Public Affairs and the Division of Public Affairs. This pamphlet was developed for educational purposes and does not necessarily reflect opinion or policy of the American Psychiatric Association.
One in a series of pamphlets designed to reduce the stigma surrounding mental illnesses by promoting informed factual discussion of the disorders and their psychiatric treatments.
© Copyright 1999 American Psychiatric Association
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On 2005-07-30 10:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
Also, just an interesting note, in the DSM, the bible for making diagnoses....there is no such thing as addiction. There is one called dependence, however it states it usually doesnt appear until the 20s or later. It says if it shows up in the teen years, it is probably more related to a conduct disorder than anything else. Conduct disorder would be like violence etc. That takes us back to the more positive therapies, not something like AARC. "
really?
The DSM was revised again in 1994 and was published as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV) (6). The section on substance-related disorders was revised in a coordinated effort involving a working group of researchers and clinicians as well as a multitude of advisers representing the fields of psychiatry, psychology, and the addictions (2). The latest edition of the DSM represents the culmination of their years of reviewing the literature; analyzing data sets, such as those collected during the Epidemiologic Catchment Area Study; conducting field trials of two potential versions of DSM-IV; communicating the results of these processes; and reaching consensus on the criteria to be included in the new edition (2,19).
DSM-IV, like its predecessors, includes nonoverlapping criteria for dependence and abuse. However, in a departure from earlier editions, DSM-IV provides for the subtyping of dependence based on the presence or absence of tolerance and withdrawal (6). The criteria for abuse in DSM-IV were expanded to include drinking despite recurrent social, interpersonal, and legal problems as a result of alcohol use (2,4). In addition, DSM-IV highlights the fact that symptoms of certain disorders, such as anxiety or depression, may be related to an individual's use of alcohol or other drugs (2).
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Now this is some funny stuff too. The book in question was of course David "John Dillinger" Grant's fabulous shim for wobbly tables and chairs. Mr. Grant of course has worked for AARC, and in fact attempts to shill for them at every opportunity. Is there a machine at AARC that allows one to transcend reality if the Leader gives the OK? Poor David! If only he admitted that rather than being a typical middle class kid who was enslaved by drugs and became a hardened criminal only to be saved by the Wiz, he was in fact the product of a bizarre home life, acted out as any teen in that situation would, and was then given to a cult leader by his indocrinated parents. That would have made a book!