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Wayne wrote:

This isn't Danny people. Marc? Jeff? Clare? Whoever.

It shows this is really going to happen. That dope couldn't write this without help. No there, they're their or Are, our, mistakes

Tell your friends they have to kill me to shut me up Dan. As I said, I'm going to show up if this shit happens, and if I do, it won't be pretty.

Wayne, you couldn't even take your ass up to Maine to get the pictures for your book. Mark had to come all the way from Illinois.  :roflmao:

Would you please do us all a favor, and STFU. You haven't done a damn thing for the TTI since you have been around unless it was self serving.

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Elan School / Re: Steven J. Kinney, veterinarian, buys Elan Property
« on: February 24, 2012, 07:16:34 PM »
I just went through everything that Poland Springs and the State of Maine has, and there is no concrete proof that Mr. Kinney has bought the property as of yet. The deal is not finalized yet. So everyone back up the ponies and unhitch the wagons we ain't headed north yet.
Quit with the undocumented rumors, and who gives a flying bats ass if this guys buys it or not. You never went there, so move on.

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Elan School / Re: Who is Steven J. Kinney new owner of the Elan Poland cam
« on: February 24, 2012, 07:10:30 PM »
I just want to know if this guy is using my name, how much am I getting paid. The man gots to be paid.   Diggidy!!!!

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Elan School / Re: Who is Steven J. Kinney new owner of the Elan Poland cam
« on: February 24, 2012, 05:06:21 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Don't any of you bums have jobs?

I have a great one. How is your roommates job. Since they support you.

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Elan School / Re: Steven J. Kinney, veterinarian, buys Elan Property
« on: February 24, 2012, 05:03:24 PM »
Wayne Elan is not opening back up. Juan is not coming into the USA to set up a program. Just think of the immigration hurdles and then we can move on to the licensing and what not. It is to much to list right now. So the property was bought by a veterinarian. Maybe he wants to use the land for raising dogs, horses, cattle. I would check the zoning laws. We already know it was zoned commercial.
Could very well be thinking of a outdoor outreach program there are several in Maine using animals.
Plus do we know how much of the land is bought or being considered for acquisition.

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Elan School / Re: Who is Steven J. Kinney new owner of the Elan Poland cam
« on: February 24, 2012, 04:13:04 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Ask Juan if he wants one thread about this, or a dozen. That's what will  happen faggot


Speaking for Elan survivors, Danny, friends and myself.......Wayne, post a hundred threads. But please stop representing Elan as if you went there. You did not go to Elan.
Stop calling people faggots. You are not gay, bi sexual or pan sexual. the only reason you even brought this shit up was because you were hanging with CAFETY and Program Watch.
They both have gay woman with in their organizations and you wanted to be special and ingratiate yourself in with them. Hey, look at me, I am just like you, does this help you like me more.
Wayne you have to be one of the most insecure guys I have ever met. Listen Danny knows you are not gay. We all fuck with you because you lie about the stupidest shit.
It is like you are constantly trying to create this traveling advocacy vechicle, "I will be whatever you want me to be".

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Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
I look forward to my constitutional right to face my accuser. That will be worth every day in jail

Wayne, listen, please do not tell us about constitutional rights here. You are a pig and have stepped all over everyone rights to be treated as a civil human being. You have marched into a community of survivors that endured and witnessed horrible crimes against humanity as young children. You don't give a shit if we have feeling, if you are hurting us or if the damage you are inflicting today will last the rest of our lives.
You don't care!!! What you care about is you want attention. Your pathetic lonely existence never had as much attention before.
No one from Elan speaks out for you, they don't support you openly and if they can they stay as far away from you as possible. You have burned, rip apart, hurt and sabotaged every person that has tried to help you here. You are not a survivor at all. Your memoir didn't come off as one, you don't come off as one and I don't believe many here think you are one. They just refuse to say it out loud because of the site we are on.
I spit in your eye, Wayne. You are a total failure as a fellow human being. A man willing to be a fraud (an imposture) concerning a most unfortunate set of circumstances any child could experience, is definitely the lowest of lows in my book.
Fuck you and go to hell.

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Wayne Kernochan wrote:

And as far as you, go fuck yourself. Not one Elan survivor say I wasn't there. But, you need to attack people, so you use Danny's false allegations to abuse me too. You're as bad as he is
Real advocate you are. You're a cunt "

Not one Elan survivor says you were there, not one, Wayne, has come forward and said, "yeah I know this guy". Your memoir has been out for how long and looked at by how many and still not one person has come forward.
You are a liar.....Danny has plenty of people. Danny has been authenticated by real people. None of them have said he was abusive.

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Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Quote from: "Xelebes"
I think what makes Élan survivors more hell-in-handbags is that it wasn't operated by shitbags with a warped sense of helping or evangelising, but just by shitbags out there to use and abuse.  Joe Ricci is something special.  Robert Lichfield instills horror and revulsion, but Joe Ricci instills horror, vitriol and anger.
None of the other programs have a piece of shit like Danny Bennison abusing them every day. You guys forget that

I appreciate the speculation, but you guys really have no idea what that's like. He's an outsider to you, just another internet troll. That fucking piece of shit raped and abused me. Think about that for a second

Now, he's trying to get a girl to commit suicide to fuck with me

Sorry I don't use soft language to deal with him. I never will. And, if I could kill him I would. That's not because of Elan, it's because of him

If Danny wasn't here, how much Elan drama would there be?

FWIW

Wayne, you have been fucking with Lee for months, she is skate 338 you know that. Do you really feel better when you lie like you do. Lee came on here complaining about you abusing her. You wrote a threatening email that we have detailing how you are stalking Lee on a blog.
 We don't don't have any idea of what it is like to be anywhere near you..... read this fucking site you piece of shit you are a out of control abusive troll!!!

WAYNE YOU DID NOT GO TO ELAN, NO ONE HAS COME FROWARD TO VERIFY THIS EITHER. IT DO0ESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM ELAN, FORNITS, STRAIGHT,REDDIT OR WHERE EVER ELSE THEY COME FROM, SAY THEY SUPPORT YOU. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE OR ORGANIZATIONS CAN CORROBORATE YOUR ACCOUNTS IN THE MEMOIR CONCERNING DANIEL BENNISON OR VERIFY YOU WERE THERE. NONE OF THEM.
YOU ARE RIDING ON BORROWED TIME, ENJOY IT.


Please enjoy all the accolades and attention. See Wayne it would not have made any difference whether you came here or not. Danny still would have acted the same way towards the same people. The out come still would have been the same. We have never cared what the assclowns thought, there was never a compelling reason to.

Is it me or does Wayne love to talk about homosexuality, suicide and murder. I wonder what order he likes them in. Or does he know yet?

We sure do wish you would grab a hold of your panny pussy and bring on your killer. Because it seems all you can do is talk this shit to your women's Jane Austins writers club.
Dude you said you were in prison, then you should know better. Stop fucking talking and do it!!!
Otherwise stick Rodrigo cock in your mouth and be happy.  
You are definitely a whackjob.

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Open Free for All / Wayne has molested young kids!!!!
« on: February 16, 2012, 08:36:04 PM »
Wayne/YV23,
you know damn well that is Lee. What is most disturbing about all of this is you know what she has been through yet you still fuck with her. Wayne you lost a lot of respect today, a lot. Using sock puppets and intentionally diverting the truth only has compounded the negative a view everyone has of you.

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Open Free for All / Wayne Kernochan making the rounds manipulating!!!
« on: February 16, 2012, 08:29:03 PM »
Wayne Kernochan has been making the rounds throughout the TTI . Since his colossal error of abusing Lee Goldman by stalking her and threatening her he has felt the need to schmooze. He got Ginger to bow and give a review about a memoir she has no idea if it is true. Even though no one that was at Elan from 1975 - 1978 has ever come forward to say anything negative about Danny Bennison, not even one person. Does anyone else find this amazing. There are 8-10 people who knew Danny while he was at Elan that have posted here and on other sites, not one Peter Arnold, Joicelyn Baer, Albert Beauchane, Margaret Devlin, John Wright, KLynn Corning, Harry Kranick, Carmella MenyHart or Wendy Fraerman have come forward and stated that he had committed any abuse. There are countless Elan survivors from the 70's that were there while Danny Bennison was there, many visit sites like this. No one has spoken this filthy fucking garbage this sexually dysfunctional abusive whackjob has said, he name being Wayne Kernochan.
 
Then we have Pixie who hands out Reddit logo's like they are chocolate chip  cookies. Pixie handed the reddit logo over to Wayne...that is how brilliant this woman is. Oh!! Wayne I love your book, you are such a good writer...here's the logo.  
Since you morons refuse to expose this abusive piece of shit then you leave it up to us. Wayne will not find a day with the public here that they don't know he is a fraud.  
Wayne would you please make up another Terry Kaito, maybe this time make it Debbie Dole, Cherly, Rick D, Julie K., Franklin J., Reginald H., come on make it a real resident that was there during the time you say you were there.

Wayne the only reason you have any support at all from Straight, Ginger, Pixie and Elan survivors.......you guessed it, please remember that. You did not earn their respect or support it was defaulted.

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http://www1.rollingstone.com/extras/RS_REPORT.pdf   This is the full PDF file.

"Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leader’s Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort"

 Rolling Stone has now obtained a full copy of the 84-page unclassified version, which has been making the rounds within the U.S. government, including the White House. We've decided to publish it in full; it's well worth reading for yourself. It is, in my estimation, one of the most significant documents published by an active-duty officer in the past ten years.

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Dereliction of Duty II:
Senior Military Leaders’ Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort
27 January 2012

Senior ranking US military leaders have so distorted the truth when communicating with the US Congress and American people in regards to conditions on the ground in Afghanistan that the truth has become unrecognizable. This deception has damaged America’s credibility among both our allies and enemies, severely limiting our ability to reach a political solution to the war in Afghanistan. It has likely cost American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars Congress might not otherwise have appropriated had it known the truth, and our senior leaders’ behavior has almost certainly extended the duration of this war. The single greatest penalty our Nation has suffered, however, has been that we have lost the blood, limbs and lives of tens of thousands of American Service Members with little to no gain to our country as a consequence of this deception.

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Introduction[/b]

These are surely serious charges and anyone who would make such claims had better have considerable and substantive evidence to back it up. Regrettably, far too much evidence does exist and I will here provide key elements of it. As I will explain in the following pages I have personally observed or physically participated in programs for at least the last 15 years in which the Army’s senior leaders have either “stretched the truth” or knowingly deceived the US Congress and American public. What I witnessed in my most recently concluded 12 month deployment to Afghanistan has seen that deception reach an intolerable low. I will provide a very brief summary of the open source information that would allow any American citizen to verify these claims. But if the public had access to these classified reports they would see the dramatic gulf between what is often said in public by our senior leaders and what is actually true behind the scenes. It would be illegal for me to discuss, use, or cite classified material in an open venue and thus I will not do so; I am no WikiLeaks guy Part II.
Fortunately, there is a provision that allows me to legally submit a classified report to Members of Congress. In conjunction with this public study I have also submitted classified reports to a number of US Representatives and Senators, both Democrats and Republicans. As the duly elected representatives of our people, they are authorized to see the classified data and empowered to do something about it. For the sake of so many who have paid with their blood – and the sake of those Service Members who have not yet had to pay that price – it is my sincere hope that Congress acts to resolve these issues expeditiously.
In the first section below I will demonstrate how numerous military senior leaders have used omission and outright deception in order to prevent the American public from knowing the truth in regards to the genuine conditions on the ground in Afghanistan. I will explain that there has been a significant volume of information available from numerous and reputable open sources that should have been effective in communicating to the American public the truth of the
DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT (As of 11 January 2012)
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situation. Owing to numerous factors (the key of which are discussed in detail in subsequent sections of the report), however, the powerful and pervasive personalities of several US general officers have been surprisingly effective at convincing even highly educated Americans to believe what the generals say and not what their eyes and evidence tell them.

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The Afghanistan Report the Pentagon Doesn't Want You to Read

POSTED: February 10, 4:25 PM ET | By Michael Hastings

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl ... z1mIg9Vkv4
 

Earlier this week, the New York Times’ Scott Shane published a bombshell piece about Lt. Colonel Daniel Davis, a 17-year Army veteran recently returned from a second tour in Afghanistan. According to the Times, the 48-year-old Davis had written an 84-page unclassified report, as well as a classified report, offering his assessment of the decade-long war. That assessment is essentially that the war has been a disaster and the military's top brass has not leveled with the American public about just how badly it’s been going. "How many more men must die in support of a mission that is not succeeding?" Davis boldly asks in an article summarizing his views in The Armed Forces Journal.


Davis last month submitted the unclassified report –titled "Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leader’s Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort" – for an internal Army review. Such a report could then be released to the public. However, according to U.S. military officials familiar with the situation, the Pentagon is refusing to do so. Rolling Stone has now obtained a full copy of the 84-page unclassified version, which has been making the rounds within the U.S. government, including the White House. We've decided to publish it in full; it's well worth reading for yourself. It is, in my estimation, one of the most significant documents published by an active-duty officer in the past ten years.

Here is the report's damning opening lines: "Senior ranking U.S. military leaders have so distorted the truth when communicating with the U.S. Congress and American people in regards to conditions on the ground in Afghanistan that the truth has become unrecognizable. This deception has damaged America’s credibility among both our allies and enemies, severely limiting our ability to reach a political solution to the war in Afghanistan." Davis goes on to explain that everything in the report is "open source" – i.e., unclassified – information. According to Davis, the classified report, which he legally submitted to Congress, is even more devastating. "If the public had access to these classified reports they would see the dramatic gulf between what is often said in public by our senior leaders and what is actually true behind the scenes," Davis writes. "It would be illegal for me to discuss, use, or cite classified material in an open venue and thus I will not do so; I am no WikiLeaks guy Part II."

According to the Times story, Davis briefed four members of Congress and a dozen staff members and sent his reports to the Defense Department’s inspector general, and of course spoke to a New York Times reporter; only after all that did he inform his chain of command what he'd been up to. Evidently Davis's truth-telling campaign has rattled the Pentagon brass, prompting unnamed officials to retaliate by threatening a bogus investigation for "possible security violations," according to NBC News.

Although Davis's critics have tried to brush off his claims as merely the opinions of a "reservist," – as Max Boot put it – his report is full of insight, analysis, and hard data that back up each one of his claims. He details the gross failure of training the Afghan Army, the military's blurring of the lines between public affairs and "information operations" (meaning, essentially, propaganda), and the Pentagon's manipulation of the U.S. media. (He expertly contrasts senior military officials public statements with the actual reality on the ground.) Davis concludes: "It is my recommendation that the United States Congress – the House and Senate Armed Services Committees in particular – should conduct a bi-partisan investigation into the various charges of deception or dishonesty in this report and hold broad hearings as well," he writes. "These hearings need to include the very senior generals and former generals whom I refer to in this report so they can be given every chance to publicly give their version of events." In other words, put the generals under oath, and then see what story they tell.

Michael Hastings is a contributing editor to Rolling Stone and author of The Operators: The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America's War in Afghanistan.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl ... z1mIghrTGh

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Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
:bump:


Yeah Wayne we do....so please provide evidence that the Sun Journal is looking into this. Don't use Judy Myers please because you would be lying. We already asked here 2 days ago. Judy doesn't even really know who you are.

So here we are again. Wayne lying about the real Juan Ferriera posting on the Elan site it was Wayne, Wayne using MuppetWhore his sock puppet to create a diversion in the conversation, Wayne still not calling IBcuy to verify that Juan did set up the Facebook account. Lies!!!!!
Yep!! Please keep bumbling the post.

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Wayne we will be coming to visit you for sure. I too personally want to see the knife of yours. You seem to be transfixed by it. You like to brag about how you stab people.
You are so funny. One moment you are this gay pride panny boy and the next you are this tuff guy macho man ready to tear apart anybody. WTF!!!
As far as your stabbing anybody that not ever going to happen. What you seem to forget we have already seen you, we have looked at you and you are not intimidating at all. Remember I told you, we had you investigated.
You wrote a book about Danny, we wanted to know who you were. When are you going to tell people your real name?? Aye.......that's right. When????? Because we are sick and tired of waiting for you to get honest.
You love to float around names Jeffrey Weintraub, Jerry Torres, Juan Ferreira, Rodrigo Fredeci, Arkom Phanaronke and then the one you don't want to say.

Wayne you called Danny out for a fight, he will be in Rhode Island in July. This is 2-3 hrs from where you are in Queens. Come on this is your big chance dude. We can take you up to Federal Hill and you can explain to the pisians how you had something to do with the hit on Paul Castellano. My man, Wayne!!!! This is in his book Street Life, this guy writes about his involvement with the hit on Castellano. WTF!!!! Where are we, where is Francis Coppella, we need a producer/director herra!!!!
What do you think because most of the peeps involved are dead and you have a fake name they can't find out who you are.
You have absolutely no common sense at all.

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