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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Many Many Programs Abuse Kids
« on: October 11, 2010, 06:06:46 PM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
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SOS wrote:
Danny, how in the world could you expect anyone here to respect you - when you've done nothing but disrespect others on these forums?  YOU ARE A FUCKING NAZI DANNY! So deal
with it!  
So you interpret disagreeing with people and calling their integrity into question being disrespectful. What I should do is just accept what everyone is saying as gold because they are survivors, then I am being respectful.
I have asked you twice now not to call me that, can you respect that.

Like I said Nazi - I don't respect you at all.  Does that answer your question?

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
My world has one standard and that is a grown man does not purposely and willfully injure another man out of prejudice.[/b]


Bullshit.  But in any event, I share this view.  I don't form my opinions of others based on predjudice, I form my opinions of them based on their actions.  In this instance,
John Reuben AKA "Whooter" lied - therefore he is a LIAR.  I have no intention to
"willfully injure" John Reuben, I only intend to speak the truth about what he's done
and continues doing.  If having the truth told about John's lies injures him, well I'm sorry,
but you really can't blame me for that.  If I didn't tell the truth about "whooter", then someone else would (and already did for that matter).

As far as I can tell Danny B II, all of your standards are double - meaning that you have one standard for yourself, and a different one for the rest of us.

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
We don't know this to be true, at all. You could have posted under the guest option. See, your expecting all of us to take you at your word. You could be a liar.
I choose not to think so in this case, I believe you. Because in this one case I think we stand side by side, we want people to know it was us speaking.[/b]

Well, unlike you're pal John Reuben AKA "Whooter" - No one has ever proven that I lied on
this forum.  Big difference there.  That's why my word is actually worth something, and
"Whooters" isn't.  Get it?  Probably not, considering that your world is defined by double standards - Danny B II.

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
SOS,
Read my posts, then read yours. You will see a difference, I am not attacking you. You asked me a question, I answered it. Part of my response included in its answer, was calling you a liar. Well that was my answer. I do believe you to be a liar.
You are angry and agitated and I do not believe in control of yourself. Which allows you to act out in a irresponsible manner.
Case in point; this topic/thread.


Huh?  So wait, you can call me names and that's Okay, but I make fun of you - it means
that I'm "irresponsible" and "regressed to 13 years old"?  Okay I get it.  Thanks for clearing that up for me.

CAN YOU SAY DOUBLE STANDARDS?  

Well what can you expect from a programmie sheep like Danny B II?  That's my answer.
I do believe that you are a programmie sheep, Danny B II.  And you're a hypocrite too!
I'm glad we understand each other.  Ciao.

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
Look at yourself, your abusing the shit out of someone and feel justified to do it.

Yeah that's right, I'm abusing the shit out of the abuser: John Reuben AKA Whooter, who not only abused his own child, but continues to be an outspoken advocate of abusing other people's children well.  Oh yeah, Mr. Reuben has also heavily invested in and continues to profit financially from at least (1) such abusive program.

You're damn straight I feel justified!  Does it hurt???  :twofinger:

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Quote from: "DannyB II"

No one here has proven Whooter lied about anything as extensive as you want to believe, I have heard no concrete evidence to back up anything that Whooter has been accused of. These are unfounded blatant lies/accusations, to try and suppress a member who does not agree with you.[/b]


Danny B II - Since according to you "I'm unable to keep myself from regressing to 13 years old"
- The please explain a few things to me:

1.  John Reuben has himself admitted to lying about having a daughter who attended a program - the posts in which he did so are linked to him and clearly available for everyone to see. If that isn't "concrete evidence" enough that Mr. Reuben lied, then please enlighten the
rest of us - what would constitute this "concrete evidence" you've mentioned?

If you would like we can go line by line through those posts so you can show all of us how he lied. You are not going to find any lies. What you will find is what you want to see.

2.  What "concrete evidence" can you provide that "Whooter" is telling the truth?  Can you provide any evidence at all?

Yes, his word. Period. He said he is not lying, you have not proved he is. He helped a women getting her ass kicked verbally. I would think you would be cheering him.

Danny B II - Instead of calling the rest of liars, and trying to suppress the FACT that your friend John Reuben AKA "Whooter" was caught lying red-handed, maybe for once, just this once - you could try actually proving what you've said.  I know it's wishful thinking on my part, but then again who knows, maybe you'll suprise me (although I highly doubt it).

You are a liar SOS, you prove this everytime you post. You take a post that had nothing to do with you, you folks asked a question why he said something that was not actually a valid point he answers the question with, this is why I did it. Is this good enough no, you have to lie, yes tell a bald face lie and say that, Whooter, "lied" to everyone about his children.
This is none of your business a mans family, whatever your reasons. Next reason your a liar, is your motivation behind embellishing this story, it is none other then to hurt him and embarrass him along with his family.
Your a sad individual, SOS, and if in fact all these accusations your hurling at Whooter are true, your no better. Look at yourself, your abusing the shit out of someone and feel justified to do it. Just like the staff, you are acting just like a staff member. Yah, lets get Whooter up in front of the room and humiliate him, make him bleed.

 :wall:

Oh man Danny B II, where do I begin?  I must really be getting to you, for you to be personally attacking me like this.  So wait, according to you - Now I'm the Liar and "A sad individual"?  Now who has regressed to name calling like some 13 year old?  

Your "concrete evidence" is John Reuben's aka "whooter's" word that he's not lying?  Are
you joking?  The word of a liar is not "concrete evidence" at all!  The first thing every liar says
after being busted is - "No I wasn't lying."   :roflmao:    

C'mon man, can't you do any better than that?  By the way dipshit - Fornits is a public forum.  I'm the public, and I have a right to respond to everything that's posted here.  Obviously, I'm not the only poster here who knows that John Reuben aka "Whooter" lies.  You know that obviously - because you're sparring with everyone on this thread who says Whooter lies, which includes everyone but yourself!  Stop trying to censor everyone because we won't agree with your nonsensical ramblings.

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
As a matter of fact there are many here which if we allowed Psy to string your posts together, we would see that you had done the same thing. Most of you probably had the same intentions as Whooter, to help someone else who was being railroaded.

Actually, as far as I'm concerned there is no "matter of fact" about it.  Unlike your friend John Reuben AKA "Whooter", I don't use sock puppets.  My posts are readily available for all to see.  Simply search posts made by the user named "Son Of Serbia", and you will find everything I've ever said on this website.  And no, I've never needed to lie in order to "help someone being railroaded."  I've always found that telling the truth is the most effective method for supporting my views.

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Quote from: "DannyB II"

No one here has proven Whooter lied about anything as extensive as you want to believe, I have heard no concrete evidence to back up anything that Whooter has been accused of. These are unfounded blatant lies/accusations, to try and suppress a member who does not agree with you.[/b]


Danny B II - Since according to you "I'm unable to keep myself from regressing to 13 years
old" - Then please explain a few things to me:

1.  John Reuben has himself admitted to lying about having a daughter who attended a program - the posts in which he did so are linked to him and clearly available for everyone to see. If that isn't "concrete evidence" enough that Mr. Reuben lied, then please enlighten the
rest of us - what would constitute this "concrete evidence" you've mentioned?

2.  What "concrete evidence" can you provide that "Whooter" is telling the truth?  Can you provide any evidence at all?

Danny B II - Instead of calling the rest of us liars & oppressors, and trying to suppress the FACT that your friend John Reuben AKA "Whooter" was caught lying red-handed, maybe for once, just this once - you could try actually proving what you've said.  I know it's wishful thinking on my part, but then again who knows, maybe you'll suprise me (although I highly doubt it).

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
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WY wrote:
Totally agree with this assessment.  I can no longer believe anything that Whooter has posted because if he'd lie about something so big and important like having a child he doesn't have then what else wouldn't he lie about?  I can see his  :shamrock: li'l sidekick :shamrock:  is getting upset when the truth comes out.  He shouldn't idolize fabricators like this Whooter guy if he doesn't want to be disappointed in the results.

Now I'm wondering about the other "success stories" here.  Are they fake?  Are they also written by Whooter?  Any way you cut it up it makes the "pro-program" cheerleaders look terrible when the head cheerleader gets her skirt pulled up to reveal her dong.  It's unfathomable why someone would fake having a child that went to a program.

The only lying and disrespect going on here is Ursus and yourself and the prejudice you have against a certain member named Whooter.
Enjoy your time here.
This type of behavior where you target a member of the group for hate, disrespect, and to censor is exactly what goes on in programs an schools as you folks attest to. This is what we talk about here endlessly.
Why Ursus and Watchful Yoeman would want to foster such behavior is troubling to members here. We have threads in a non-moderated forum called "OFFA" where people can accuse anybody of anything or take out of context anything anyone says. As a matter of fact we already have one the has Whooters name on it already.
People who read here don't be mislead by people who are selfish and persuaded by vindictiveness.

Actually Danny B II, the only "predjudice" that has been demonstrated here is that PEOPLE HATE BEING LIED TO and consequently MOST PEOPLE HATE LIARS (I say most, because apparently you yourself admire liars).

Your friend John Reuben has been exposed as the LIAR that he is.  Consequently, those of us that JOHN REUBEN LIED TO, have every right to discuss the PROVEN LIES he told, as well as
compare notes concerning what else John Reuben most likely lied about.

That's what happens when someone gets caught telling lies, Danny B II.  Naturally, everything John Reuben has said is now open to scrutiny.  You insist that we all should accept John's explaination of why he lied, and leave it at that.  Why on earth should we accept the
word of John Reuben at face value, when we've already proven that he lies?  Your logic make no sense what-so-ever.

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Quote from: "DannyB II"
THis is total fabricated BS, up inside your stupid [email protected]#$*!g head, thrown up here on a valid forum. Take this [email protected]#$*!g garbage where it belongs to the "OFFA".

Whooter gave a plausible reason as to why he said what he said, if you don't like the answer shove it up your *#s, but this gives you no right to discredit him or his family.

Your the reason this site is not taken serious and we have to have increased monitoring by deputies.
This is your first warning for abusing these threads, Site and rules. [email protected]#*&$e.

I am talking to this j*@k-off this way because this thread/topic belongs with all the other trash in "OFFA". So he will get no respect from me when he manipulates this website for his own sick reasons.

Danny, why don't you get down on your knees and suck John Reuben's dick already! Or if you don't want to appear totally gay, have your wife blow him while you watch, and instead of swallowing - she can spit John's sperm back into your mouth. That way you can claim that you're not Gay (because you didn't blow John yourself), while still being able to enjoy the taste of Mr. Reuben's sperm, which you obviously crave so much!  Or just blow Whooter yourself, which is what you really want anyways.

I'm talking to you this way Danny B II, because you're a total fucking jerk off and deserve
no better treatment from me or anyone else on this forum.  :twofinger:


No, your talking to me this way because you don't know any other way to talk. Lets just get honest here. This is how you relate to other males when you are upset at them. Funny how most of the males here go straight to homosexual acts when they are angry with you.
 
Please would someone in the house who happens to know professionally, explain this. Maybe we can all learn something.
 
My reaction is to reject the offer or the salacious remarks, as immature acts of a inadequate man.
I would think all the energy you put into those filthy comments, you could have spoke intelligently about your point or made another argument.  

I get the respect I deserve, always have. Thanks for checking on that.

Buddy, you're not even a tiny fraction of the adequaete man that I am.  Be sure of that. And you damn well know that you disrespect everyone here, everytime you make one of your ill thought out blanket derogatory  statements about fornits posters in general - calling us all liars, plagurists, and similar such nonsense.

You know absolutely nothing about me, yet you say that I "don't know any other way to tallk" ?
Please Danny B II, don't embarrass yourself.  I CHOSE to disrespect you in that matter, because I enjoyed it,  and that's the whole honest truth.  It's so funny how you catagorize me as "going to other males with homosexual acts when they are angry with me", and then end your post by calling me a "inadequate male" ( undoubtedly a veiled reference to my member size & sexual prowess).  You should hold yourself to your own professed standards, and not be such a hypocrite Danny B II. I don't respect you, and you won't get any respect from me, as  you deserve none.  How could I respect such an obvious hypocrite?

How the hell could anyone here respect you Danny B II, after you've gone through such great
lengths to defend a PROVEN LIAR like John Reuben?  There is no defense for anyone who lies like John Reuben has done and continues to do so, the guy is trash - pure and simple.
The same can be said for the sorry sap who goes out of his way to defend such devious behavior (that would be you Danny B II).

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Can people be forced to change?
« on: October 11, 2010, 03:03:34 PM »
Quote from: "Troll Control"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"


Now you're playing games MR. Reuben, without addressing the questions being put to you.
It seems to be your MO.

Mr. Reuben - I'll ask my question again, based in part  on YOUR OWN WORDS:
 
How does someone "accept" or "embrace" new lifestyles, education (I presume this means IDEAS), and routines without CHOOSING to do so?

If you are speaking to me I am not Mr. Reuben.  If you redirect your question to me I will respond.



...

So I guess you prefer "John" then?

He usually answers to "John" or "John Reuben" as you can see below:

Link to where TheWho admits he is john Reuben

Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
John must be too busy enSlavingTeens right now to answer.

Yes, he takes gubmint dollars (your tax dollars) and uses them to imprison youths privately at various quack-holes.

Why is that a crime? They use tax dollars for far worse things than imprisoning youths.  At least they are kept safe here.  Imagine if they were shipped overseas with private funding where people hate Americans.  You would see abuse on a whole new level. All my work stays within the confines of the US borders... no 2nd rate programs.


Oh, I see!  Sorry, it was my mistake.

JOHN REUBEN- I'll ask you my question again, based in part on YOUR OWN WORDS:

How does someone "accept" or "embrace" new lifestyles, education (I presume this means IDEAS), and routines without CHOOSING to do so?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Many Many Programs Abuse Kids
« on: October 11, 2010, 02:58:00 PM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Shadyacres"
Just you and the other Nazi still remaining here, how can we get you two to follow your buddy SukitMax?  Do you feel any shame at all when the programs you advocate for so strongly destroy so much potential and so many young lives that haven't even started yet?   Or is it all just concert tickets to you?

Shady calling me a Nazi, when we have Jewish people who post on this site and the fact my wife is Jewish, I find both vulgar and racist, therefore you are attacking me and I don't like it, please refrain from being a bigot. I am sure we have rules covering this disgusting behavior.
Listen I am not calling you names nor getting all crazy because I don't like what you are saying.


Well guess what Danny B II ? The founder & owner of my program hellhole (Cedu) was also
Jewish.  His name was Mel Wasserman - and you know what, I hate that motherfucker as
much as I do any Nazi, and as far as I'm concerned:  Mel Wasserman was a fucking Nazi!
There's no bigotry or racism behind that comment - just the fact that Mel's success depended
on making other people miserable - Just like the Nazis.

In my mind, the fact that you're sooo supportive of people like Mel Wasserman makes you a fucking Nazi too Danny.  There's nothing bigotted about saying that.  The term "Nazi" is not
a racial slur.  And even if it was a racial slur, logic dictates that calling someone a Nazi would imply bigotry against Germans, Austrians, Croatians, Finns, Albanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Bosnian Muslims (y'know, people who actually embraced Nazism during WWII), but certainly NOT Jews. Sadly, plenty of derogatory words exist to defame Jews - I won't repeat them here (because I despise such words), but if someone truly wanted to demonstrate racism against Jews, then they  could do it far more effectively by using one those slurs instead of calling them a "Nazi".

The bottom line is: If you act like a Nazi, then expect that someone will call you a Nazi.  Do you get it now Danny?


It was meant as a racial slur, that was inferred. I don't like it and it is not necessary. I don't care what or who Mel Wasserman is or did, that conversation has nothing to do with this one. Plus I do not need you to give me a history lesson on anything, thank you.
I made a request and asked for respect. Please acknowledge that.

Danny, how in the world could you expect anyone here to respect you - when you've done nothing but disrespect others on these forums?  YOU ARE A FUCKING NAZI DANNY! So deal
with it!   :twofinger:

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
THis is total fabricated BS, up inside your stupid [email protected]#$*!g head, thrown up here on a valid forum. Take this [email protected]#$*!g garbage where it belongs to the "OFFA".

Whooter gave a plausible reason as to why he said what he said, if you don't like the answer shove it up your *#s, but this gives you no right to discredit him or his family.

Your the reason this site is not taken serious and we have to have increased monitoring by deputies.
This is your first warning for abusing these threads, Site and rules. [email protected]#*&$e.

I am talking to this j*@k-off this way because this thread/topic belongs with all the other trash in "OFFA". So he will get no respect from me when he manipulates this website for his own sick reasons.

Danny, why don't you get down on your knees and suck John Reuben's dick already! Or if you don't want to appear totally gay, have your wife blow him while you watch, and instead of swallowing - she can spit John's sperm back into your mouth. That way you can claim that you're not Gay (because you didn't blow John yourself), while still being able to enjoy the taste of Mr. Reuben's sperm, which you obviously crave so much!  Or just blow Whooter yourself, which is what you really want anyways.

I'm talking to you this way Danny B II, because you're a total fucking jerk off and deserve
no better treatment from me or anyone else on this forum.  :twofinger:

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Can people be forced to change?
« on: October 11, 2010, 02:29:16 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"


Now you're playing games MR. Reuben, without addressing the questions being put to you.
It seems to be your MO.

Mr. Reuben - I'll ask my question again, based in part  on YOUR OWN WORDS:
 
How does someone "accept" or "embrace" new lifestyles, education (I presume this means IDEAS), and routines without CHOOSING to do so?

If you are speaking to me I am not Mr. Reuben.  If you redirect your question to me I will respond.



...

So I guess you prefer "John" then?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Many Many Programs Abuse Kids
« on: October 11, 2010, 02:26:02 PM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Quote from: "Shadyacres"
Just you and the other Nazi still remaining here, how can we get you two to follow your buddy SukitMax?  Do you feel any shame at all when the programs you advocate for so strongly destroy so much potential and so many young lives that haven't even started yet?   Or is it all just concert tickets to you?

Shady calling me a Nazi, when we have Jewish people who post on this site and the fact my wife is Jewish, I find both vulgar and racist, therefore you are attacking me and I don't like it, please refrain from being a bigot. I am sure we have rules covering this disgusting behavior.
Listen I am not calling you names nor getting all crazy because I don't like what you are saying.


Well guess what Danny B II ? The founder & owner of my program hellhole (Cedu) was also
Jewish.  His name was Mel Wasserman - and you know what, I hate that motherfucker as
much as I do any Nazi, and as far as I'm concerned:  Mel Wasserman was a fucking Nazi!
There's no bigotry or racism behind that comment - just the fact that Mel's success depended
on making other people miserable - Just like the Nazis.

In my mind, the fact that you're sooo supportive of people like Mel Wasserman makes you a fucking Nazi too Danny.  There's nothing bigotted about saying that.  The term "Nazi" is not
a racial slur.  And even if it was a racial slur, logic dictates that calling someone a Nazi would imply bigotry against Germans, Austrians, Croatians, Finns, Albanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Bosnian Muslims (y'know, people who actually embraced Nazism during WWII), but certainly NOT Jews. Sadly, plenty of derogatory words exist to defame Jews - I won't repeat them here (because I despise such words), but if someone truly wanted to demonstrate racism against Jews, then they  could do it far more effectively by using one those slurs instead of calling them a "Nazi".

The bottom line is: If you act like a Nazi, then expect that someone will call you a Nazi.  Do you get it now Danny?

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