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Facility Question and Answers / Heritage RTC Provo
« on: October 09, 2007, 06:40:11 PM »
those ARE the specific examples. if you want names you can contact me by pm or call the facility for the names of the osteopath and ed director and check dopl discipline and licenses.

i am a parent and i'm not giving my daughter's name but i will give dates by pm.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 09, 2007, 12:41:08 AM »
it could, but it doesn't.

the low quality of care, based on malpractice law standard of care, involves failing to read charts, prescribing controlled substances without regard to hx, failing to provide state of the art or even good diagnostic critieria and methods psychiatricaly, pharmacologically, educationally, medically, therapeutically. failure to regard individual or even have average knowledge of any culture, religion other than mormon. violation of religion and disability civil rights. inexperienced therapist, administration and teachers who have no knowledge of sped law, techniques, methods, strategies, implementations, assessments etc. either therapeutically or academically. inadequate staff (not a single medical psychiatrist or even psychologist) with inadequate education and training who have no knowledge of appropriate therapeutic care, treatment and case management.

want more?

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Facility Question and Answers / Heritage RTC Provo
« on: October 09, 2007, 12:15:50 AM »
the low standard of care, institutional types of mistakes, inferiority of staff (the psychiatrist is an osteopath who was only off probation for less than a year for having some pretty disgusting interaction with someone he treated and a director of education who only got out of college a year or so ago and doesn't even have a cert in special education and appears to be staggeringly ignorant) and an inability to provide appropriate education services or comply with contracts. the only important thing to them is mormonism and that is what they all are as opposed, it seems to me, to hiring people who provide an even medium level of care (which would be a huge improvement) but who are not their mormon cult. they are an arm of the lds and when they know you it gets scary.

the kids are having a blast and no one is dying and parents don't know what to ask, look for or expect or what to do about it.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / heritage rtc
« on: October 09, 2007, 12:05:13 AM »
most of their clients are from california on an iep driven placement to a nps that has to be certified by the state and have a master contract with the appropriate selpa. they are not court ordered. those children are monitored by several agencies as well as their parents. a small amount of short termers are utah juvenile justice cases. those children always have a lawyer and due process. under all of those circumstances, there is due process and facility licensing and oversight. not to say that they are not idiots in some or many capacities, all mormons with a sheltered and ignorant view and knowledge of everything possible and the standard of ALL their care is lower than a lot of professionals that are not employed by institutions.

i think you guys are talking about the for profit places, who may not be licensed, where the real abuse is going on.

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Facility Question and Answers / Heritage RTC Provo
« on: October 08, 2007, 08:48:34 AM »
Does any one have any experience with Heritage RTC in Utah?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC
« on: October 08, 2007, 08:19:45 AM »
just cannot get it to work on this computer. ARGH!

i did notice the name brinley. the new osteopath they have at heritage is named derry brinley. he just got off probation (and less than a year later he is at heritage) for bizarre and sick behavior with a former patient. he was still married! of course he had confessed to the church. this is what they bring in there, just because he's a mormon, rather than a medical doctor or someone with a clean record. a sicko himself.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 05, 2007, 03:38:15 PM »
i'm new here, but doesn't anyone monitor this? i'm afraid that this violence and hatred and disgusting talk and threats is disturbing and should not be tolerated. it thwarts honest discussion and interaction for the well being of children. this does not sound like a place where the well being of children is tolerated and in its place is violent revenge. it is sick and i must leave.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 05, 2007, 03:29:33 PM »
guest, what a horrible thing to wish for anyone. i have never heard anyone with hopes and wishes for others as you have, and we will certainly put that statement in with your others and give you the credibility you deserve.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 05, 2007, 03:22:11 PM »
guest, i didn't say they were cultish or that they were a cult. i said they "seemed cultish". that is why i am here to get more info but you do not seem to have any first hand info but a kind of circular logic and offensive manner. if my daughter was with you i would truly grab her out of there!

thank you again. we will give your statements the credibility they deserve.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 05, 2007, 03:11:18 PM »
guest, have you been there? have you spoken to anyone who has been there? have you spoken to anyone who is there? have you spoken to anyone who makes unannounced on site visits there?

i was looking for informed information not for someone to insult, bully and swear at me.

thank you for your input and we will give it the credit that it certainly deserves.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 05, 2007, 03:02:14 PM »
Who, that is absolutely hilarious. Aspen aka crc would do that except that it would interfere with them counting their money!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 05, 2007, 02:55:22 PM »
hi guest. actually i did thoroughly check this place out and continue to do so. someone i care about is there and except for the first 2 weeks i have been able to have open unmonitored telephone and off campus visits with her. it is just as silly to put a kid there as it is to go grab her back without completely checking into it. she doesn't even want to leave yet. she is making gains there. i am really spooked that they seem cultish regarding themselves and they are all, every single one of them, mormons. they had a play that was sponsored by them, staff is totally mormon and they had one parent followed around because she had complained. i heard another parent asking about the kid staying there in utah after graduation and they are going to help by doing something they aren't supposed to do. i have also caught them in lies but thats the suits. it is like a private mormon school and that is spooky. also, i think they should be told not to have the kids write all day but who should i report that to. if they are all mormons and i read that the utah state person that checks out complaints is also a biggie with mormons won't do anything.

i read an article in the mormon newspaper about skyrocketing child abuse in utah and that since 70% of the people there are mormons some of it must be happening with them and all they wanted to do about it was pray for them!!!! not call 911 or anything, just pray.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage
« on: October 05, 2007, 02:32:37 PM »
wow, i didn't mean to start a war here. heritage is not, by far, the worst. no one has died there and i haven't run into anyone who is evil, except the guy who is the psychiatrist and isn't really even a medical doctor and had had his license taken away. they just seem stupid and the right arm of the mormon church. there isn't a psychologist among them just a bunch of social workers and they aren't therapists, are they?.

they only look at mail to see if there is contraband. they assign numbers for security to make sure the wrong people don't call the kid. i am scared about putting kids in a room and making them stand with no socks or write all day without being able to lay down or have a pillow and then they do something humiliating with what was written. some staff punched kids but they were fired.

they are scary people to me because they try to control parents and kids with the mormon thing and that is spooky. no one left there has any experience and it is run by mormon robots but i'm not sure they are cruel to kids and a lot of them who are not suits and really work with kids seem to care, even if they don't know much.

its like a mormon stepford and that spooks me. do they try to get kids to stay in utah?

i'm not even sure HEAL is talking about this heritage because there is at least one other school named heritage.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC Provo
« on: October 04, 2007, 10:00:20 PM »
any other info on Heritage in provo would be appreciated....former residents or parents...anything.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Heritage RTC in Provo
« on: October 04, 2007, 06:18:25 PM »
Anyone have any experience or info on this place? Is making a kid sit and write all day with out being able to lay down or have a pillow abusive?

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