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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Seed Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 24, 2005, 08:19:00 PM
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You worthless pile of SHIT !!!! ::unhappy::
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good one, that was funny !
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::cheers:: :wave:
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John,
I wish you a very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.
God bless!
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Happy Year year John. It still hurts to say that, but YOU saved my life. You and Dennis, and Nick.Peace.
Babylon in all its desolation is a sight not so awful as that of the human mind in ruins.
-- Scrope Davies: Letter to Thomas Raikes, May 25, 1835.
"I'm just glad I ain't human too."-Nelson[ This Message was edited by: Napolean Bonafart on 2005-12-25 14:39 ]
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make up your mind Napolean
you change your mind with the tides and your meds.
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fuck you bagheads
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What is a baghead?
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Great language Anon. No wonder you don't let this site know your name. Got some issues??? You are a bag head too. :smile:
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Hey Napolean, care to tell me why you keep changing your name?
I would appreciate some continuity of name so people can tell who they are addressing.
Thanks.
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Because . This is who I am and for the baghead that stuck up for me well. They made me and broke you. I have no issues with them, Sure it hurt to be dragged through all the seedling shit. But I have no recollection of any mistreatment except from other cult members like yourself Greg. You are still a cult member Greg are you not?When ou found me you said oh good ole faithful me. Now your pretending not to be affiliated with this game except to recall the faithful. That I am. But not to the Seed. Just to my country. And of course how I managed to capitalize off you Imperialist's will remain a mystery to you.and your forums so called "Game' is for dogs. Mad dogs.
No gods, no masters.
--margaret Sanger
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woof woof.
:grin:
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I've always been a BARK er fan. :grin:
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::cheers::
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::both:: ::unhappy:: ::bangin::
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I have moved around alot during my years and went to alot of different schools and of course the Seed. And when I found this site awhile back I thought great!!!!! I can communicate with people I know...... because you lose contact with everybody once you move out of state. And it's FREE......haha
We had just left the Seed and moved to a very small farming town in northwest Ohio. There were no locks on the lockers at the school and there was never any theft whatsoever. It was a great place to finish off our teen years. But the problem was we were shunned by all of our peers and made fun of by the jocks, none of these people even knew we went to a drug rehab . So life went on and I loved living on the farm with my parents and siblings. My sister and I made ONE friend in that school, so we would pack lunches and off we'd go on the horses miles away just to picnic and have adventure.
Why am I writing this? Because I do want to communicate with my fellow Seedlings.
I spent 9months at the Seed. When I first started posting I would get the feeling that I had when I was in the Seed. Kinda like walk on eggs so you don't get attacked for saying the wrong thing or being accused of using. What crap!!!!
We are older, I'm 50. and a grandmother. I have a son who just turned 30yrs old, who in the last few months tried to take his life and ended up in some shithole drug rehab for the homeless. So I guess the question is who is he going to blame for his short commings???? anyone???? huh??? :cry:
Anyways........ Merry Christmas to John Underwood.
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Hey there, echo. Happy hollidaze. I wish we all could just burry the hatchet and hang out like fellow human beings too. Sorry to hear about your son's troubles. Hope things get better for him real soon.
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I don't get it .... bury the hatchet? I don't even know you do I?
Who are you anyway?
Well like I said Merry Christmas to John Underwood and his family.
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I think, echothis, she meant those of us who disagree about the seed experience.
Yes, we are 50 or so, mostof us. The pain of being locked up, or strung out on dope, has been replaced with the joys and disapointments of mid life. We all do share a common bond whether we agree or not.
Merry christmas/holiday season to all who read this forum. I know it has been slow lately, but that does not mean it hasn't been in our minds.
GregFL
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I was responding to this:
"Because I do want to communicate with my fellow Seedlings.
I spent 9months at the Seed. When I first started posting I would get the feeling that I had when I was in the Seed. Kinda like walk on eggs so you don't get attacked for saying the wrong thing or being accused of using. What crap!!!! "
Commisserating, really.
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To the new person who found this website and wants to reunite with people, hello and Merry Christmas. So which location were you in?
I have reunited with a few friends and have had a blast getting to know them again.
I am sorry about your son, but hopefully he will gain some strength from you and learn to live again.
Merry Christmas.
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Cassandra I want to apologize. As I read your post the second time I realized what you were saying.... then it was to late as I had already posted. Lesson learned.
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Magpie was asking what location I was at. It was in Fort Lauderdale not sure if that's what is called the Andrews location or not.
Art would talk about the one they had just moved out of because it had gotten so small for them. He told us how the old timers wrote the Seed Song. I don't remember the story. But I do remember he had fond memories of it. He was like a proud papa kinda ....
and I'm not saying that with admiration. I never admired him or anyone else there.
This place was a white two story house. If you were looking at the front of this house to the right was a rather large open yard. We had our Christmas out there, singing songs all night long or until ten. I'll never forget that night. I had to pee really bad starting around noon that day and by the time I got home I thought I was going to die!!!!! Thru the whole 9months of going to the Seed I only went to the bathroom once while there. I was sooooo shy I couldn't get up the courage to ask if i could go. The one time that I did go we were having a chicks rap meeting around the side of the house and we were walking past the port a johns and I just made a bee line to it. And I do remember people asking if they could go to the bathroom but I don't remember anyone being escorted, especially if they weren't high risk.
Now eating was right on the same level for me. I don't think I ever ate a bite or drank anything that was offered me... ever... plus I couldn't afford to because then I'd have to go....... But I wouldn't have anyways.
We didn't have a building we were in. We were outside all the time.I guess looking back at it now I'm glad we weren't in some building shut up. People would drive by and yell The Seed Suck's all the time. Anyone remember the Seed tee shirts?
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Remember the seed t-shirts? The first post in this forum mentions them...
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... seed+sucks (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=183&highlight=seed+sucks)
Being forced to wear that Seed T-shirt was always a humiliating experience for me.
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I think I was there when the shirts first came out and I think it was "72". I don't remember ever being forced to wear it though....We had a 4th of July party on Fort Lauderdale Beach with a Christmas Tree on the beach, Art and everyone was there and I remember most people wearing their Seed T shirts. I have an old picture of a group of us wearing them. I do remember feeling as an outsider at the time and a small group of us never even went close to where the party was going on. We kinda did our own thing. Which was pretty cool considering who we were suppose to be with.
I think things changed alot after the Seed moved from the old house in Fort Lauderdale cause some of the things I read in past post don't compute.
Hope ya all had a Merry Christmas.
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Sawright, echo. I've been offline for awhile and am now just starting to tear into a daunting pile of snafu's to get back to productive work. Glad you decided to stick around, hope your holydaze were wonderful. ttyl
Ginger
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Hope you and your family are happy. I never thought I would find you, I have been hanging out in the sea of humanity.
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Hope you and your family are happy. I never thought I would find you, I have been hanging out in the sea of humanity.
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Susie,
Just remember...
"You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose"
Where would we be without plastic Jesus riding on the dashboard of our cars?
"Buckle up for safety always buckle up, show the friends you care by the belt you wear buckle up for safety everybody buckle up
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Susie,
Just remember...
"You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose"
Where would we be without plastic Jesus riding on the dashboard of our cars?
"Buckle up for safety always buckle up, show the friends you care by the belt you wear buckle up for safety everybody buckle up
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:flame: :lol: 8-)
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::unhappy:: ::both:: ::stab::
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HAPPY HOLIDAYS 8)
:cheers:
:roflmao:
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::bangin:: ::both:: ::dose::
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::bangin:: ::both:: ::dose::
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:cheers: :bump: :rocker:
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Underwood is really about the only person I had a real problem with, and that was AFTER I was selected for staff. As it turned out that problem went back to the 3rd grade in upstate NY. Talk about small world! I would like to see him though. I have something for him. ;p
Warrant: Seed 12/71 - 3/73 :beat:
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Underwood ......................... :rasta:
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John was one of the more amiable jailers...
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Barker will never be my fan!
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Bump it up one more time :cheers:
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You worthless pile of SHIT !!!! ::unhappy::
:roflmao:
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John Underwood must be a lonely sad old man by now, hope he chokes on a drumstick because of Libby's dry turkey
gobble gobble ::deadhorse::
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John Underwood must be a lonely sad old man by now, hope he chokes on a drumstick because of Libby's dry turkey
gobble gobble ::deadhorse::
. :roflmao: .
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As a result of this forum I have been able to get in touch with a lot of old friends, create some new memories and have some fun with them. I even had a chance to talk to John Underwood and thank him for all he did for me and so many others. There are many of us out here that appriciate having our lives together and we know that no instiution is perfect. I am sorry that the Seed was not for everyone. Some people move on and deal with life. It was not easy, but at the Seed I learned to stop blaming others.
Merry Christmas to All,
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yes. yes. yes. by all means don't blame others.
when art barker was fucking teenage girls, don't blame him. blame those nasty bitches for being imprisoned teens, and having such cute little cunts that were just begging for him to fuck.
when barker was purchasing his shiny black cadillac, don't blame him for misappropriation of funds, and fraud, blame GMC!
don't blame lybbie for gagging on barker's nasty old dick when she was riding around nobbing him in that black hearst, blame the goo that was just begging to be released down her gullet.
don't blame the endless propaganda your parents believed, blame your parents.
and for gosh sakes, don't blame debbie del bueno's death and all the other suicides on barker. blame it on those fucking weak bastards for not facing the tough road ahead.
and when i force barker prostate, on his knees and place 7 cold .9mm slug in the back of the head, clandestine style, and giggle in glee as his entire face is blown out on the ground in front of him, and he sees the inside of his own face before he take his last breath, don't blame me for that. blame barker for not knowing i was hiding in the bushes outside of his condo.
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Well guess who's back!
Stack Jones,
merry X-mas
you misserable fucking perv!
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Love your sign-in "name"--couldn't agree with you more. What's funny about this miserable jerk is he thinks we actually give a rat's ass about anything he has to say. Just look at how many of us bothered to read his last post. Notice no one responded to it.
Dumb, miserable fuck.
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wow. it took the miserable dumb fuck less than a minute before he started flooding the board. not even this forum but almost the whole fuckin board.
at least cyndee and susan have grown up. hope they're doing ok. to them i'll wish a merry christmas. or happy holidays to be pc. lol
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HAPPY HOLIDAYS STUPID TROLL AND HIS FAKE SOCK PUPPET SISTERS!!!!
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and when i force barker prostate, on his knees and place 7 cold .9mm slug in the back of the head, clandestine style, and giggle in glee as his entire face is blown out on the ground in front of him, and he sees the inside of his own face before he take his last breath, don't blame me for that. blame barker for not knowing i was hiding in the bushes outside of his condo.
Quit making threats. "I'm going to" holds about as much weight as "I should" or "I want to". Maybe if you videotaped it and put it on Liveleak or something, we might listen to you, but it's not going to happen because you're too much of a hopeless little bitch to even buy the fucking gun, aren't you? Pussy.
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7 cold.... etc. what sidearm would that be? exactly? and, of course, when will you do this?, and where? curious minds want to know.
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As soon as he's done with the court case. You know the one he talked about when he first showed up here spouting off. Let's see--last summer, wasn't it?
All talk, no action. That's our boy, Stack.
Yes, and Happy Holidays to everyone else!
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F U Underwood
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As a result of this forum I have been able to get in touch with a lot of old friends, create some new memories and have some fun with them. I even had a chance to talk to John Underwood and thank him for all he did for me and so many others. There are many of us out here that appriciate having our lives together and we know that no instiution is perfect. I am sorry that the Seed was not for everyone. Some people move on and deal with life. It was not easy, but at the Seed I learned to stop blaming others.
Merry Christmas to All.
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i certainly blame you for being redundant and repeating yourself too often.
you copy and pasted this bullshit before. shut the fuck up you brainwashed toad.
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To paraphrase the big book in AA; those that can't get their lives together through the program are constutionally unable to be honest with themselves, thus doomed to be miserable. Look in the mirror.
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Happy Holidays John Underwood? Why not? You are just as phoney as all the x-mas hype itself. Anyone who defende J.U. is just as full of shit as he is. I hope him and big Arthur ran off to one of those gay marrage states (or countries) With Arthur pitching. Oh wait, I forgot. "NO JUNKIES SITTING NEXT TO JUNKIES"! Oh well.
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yes, oh yes none-ya. i'd be as angry as you that is four shore. its obvious that all that tyme you spent in the seed kep you from lerning how to spell, and string a coherent sentence together.
now go and get your G.E.D. it ain't never two late.
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Hey Slack (yes I spelled it right)
Since when have you got J.U.'s back? Were you and him good buddys?
I doubt it. So what's your problem? Why be hostile with people who agree with your position on the seed?
Guess what, you're not unique in that respect.
Jingle Bells!
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To paraphrase the big book in AA; those that can't get their lives together through the program are constutionally unable to be honest with themselves, thus doomed to be miserable. Look in the mirror.
Hoping that John and his family have a happy holiday and a wonderful new year. Thanks for all that you and the other staff did for everyone.
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Ashtabula, Tell us why we sing jingle bells.
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Zippidy Doo DA.....
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You know we ALL were brainwashed abused and abusers. I woke up last year and realized that The Seed changed my life in SO many ways. It has been over 30 years since my experience I have found both good and bad about what I got out of the Seed. I know the bad has outweighed the good. I had not been an abuser of drugs OR alcohol. I had used them on occasion. My sister got busted because she was the out all night with her friends drunk as often as she could and either on uppers or downers whatever she could get her hands on.
I learned to lie so I could get through the program. And now from talking to former Straight staff members all the shit we did "working" the program was all BS because they based any promotions or movement through the program on how much they liked you. SO it was still peer pressure of the MOST negative kind. I didn't fight the process I entered it and did everything they told me to do. I did not want to get started over so I capitulated and did everything they wanted me to do. I learned how to read people instantly. And you do not want to piss me off cause I am still good at coming down on you if you cross me. this is just a short list of what I learned while in the Seed.
I understand that those who fought the program had a totally different experience and were abused and even tortured to make break them. Many of them left the program only to kill themselves within a few years.
There's a saying in the Straight group on FB: we were ALL hit by the same bag of rocks.
We all know what we endured while in the program. It was FUCKED up and not right but who understands what you went through better than another survivor. I am not saying those who see their experience as a positive thing are wrong or bad. They just have not woke up to the abusiveness of the program. Or the denial of basic human rights just because they were kids. The most fearsome thing to me is that there are legacy programs that still exist in 2012 that still practice those methods that have been proven not to work. What I mean by legacy is the people who worked at The Seed and Straight are opening the same kinds of programs under different names in new states. It did not work then and it does not work now. Children are being brainwashed to think they are wrong and broken when all that is going on is the transition from child to adult. And when brain chemistry is changing the most from 12-18 years old that is when these institutions are messing with young people's brains. If you have struggled all your life or are still struggling and wondering why your life isn't working then maybe it is time to learn as much as you can.
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Where were you? Myself, '73 Morgan yacht. St. Pete. And you're right. It was completely fucked up.I knew it within my first few minutes on the front row. And I knew i had to split.
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You don't know my story yet?
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It is so nice to see the former staff posting here as seedlings, haven't you all sprouted by now into a tree or something productive?
Happy Saint Patrick's Day John Underwood and you too Lybbi, in fact Lybbi; here's a bone, now fetch because that is what you do best
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Ashtabula, I mean Lybbi, did you move back home?
http://www.wltx.com/news/article/177385 ... b-Explodes (http://www.wltx.com/news/article/177385/0/1-Dead-After-Nursing-Home-Meth-Lab-Explodes)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHxGBH6o4M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHxGBH6o4M)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tHHRpAz ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tHHRpAzGcM&feature=related)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2M6yV6mueg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2M6yV6mueg)
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