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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Triangle Choke on July 10, 2004, 09:21:00 PM
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Anyone at this wharehouse during that time period? I was 16/17 then with blonde hair and blue eyes. My name is Ken. They stopped the motivating arm flapping bullshit soon after I got there.
I wouldn't be surprised if staff members don't frequent this site or sites like this. I can only rember several of their names.
Craig- Tall caucasian male 6'1, had been on the Oprah Winfrey show with his mother as a success story. Closet Homosexual.
Mark- Black guy short 5'9 from Maryland.
Clients names I remember:
Eric- 18 or 19 mother lived in Georgetowne father was from New Zealand.
Matt Whitacker- mother was from Wheaton MD, he was bi-racial. Don't like you.
Heather Mcdowell/Mcdougell- Your crazy parents were from the same town and church as mine and intrdoced them to Straight...thanks!!
Bryce- from PA.....now deceased....suicide
Ken S- from VA got there the same day as me...he was a gang banger...liked this kid alot!
Danny- Italian short kid had been in program for a long while cop'd out like 3 or 4 times.
Eric Winsel- From Springfield VA, fat chubby kid mother lived in APT complex down the street from Straight. Mom named Carla she was a big fat bitch wanted more money from my parents for me staying at he roach infested apt....
Tim- Balding was an extra in dead poets society and was picked on mercilessly for sexual issues.
Khazema Quamrudin- Cool guy
Can't remember anymore for now will add more as I think of more. Staight is it .....Straight is it!
[ This Message was edited by: Triangle Choke on 2004-07-12 18:28 ]
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When they stopped the motivating did they just come in and make an announcement and then right away they stopped? Did they explain why? Did some people still do it out of habit and get in trouble? I wish we didn't do that shit when I was in there '82-'84. I think it caused me neck problems.
-C
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Yes they made an announcement that it needed to stop immeadiately. They cited health depatment regulations or rulings. It took a few weeks for some people to break the habit. I somewhat missed it because it was one of the only things external to my own thoughts that made me genuinely smile on the inside. I loved the way some people looked when they did it like angry retards.
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They did the same thing in Dallas in december of 1989...that is one of my better memories.. Ms. Petito (ex staff) came in and stopped group and said "no more motivating...health dept says its bad for you.." like they gave a shit...lol I have arthritis in my shoulders now and they pop constantly...because of that bullshit.
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On 2004-07-11 18:25:00, Peacepupppy wrote:
"When they stopped the motivating did they just come in and make an announcement and then right away they stopped? Did they explain why? Did some people still do it out of habit and get in trouble? I wish we didn't do that shit when I was in there '82-'84. I think it caused me neck problems.
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Me too ....(after thought- when they stopped the motivating everyone started like shaking theirhand and going "ooh oooh oooh" when they wanted to get called on." they couldnt just raise their fucking hand..
And the funny part is noone ever really wanted to get called on..
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>>And the funny part is noone ever really wanted to get called on.. <<
That is SOO true! I remember watching people squiggle and freak out all over the place with their arms, then get called on, stand up... And be completely blank, with nothing to say.
I NEVER wanted to get called on. But of course, we all had to pretend that it's all we lived for.
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Actually, I rember there were always a couple of people that always wanted to get called on. Part of working your way up in the program, at least from 1st phase, was directly related to your participation in sessions.
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I graduated from Springfield in 89 and was on staff with mark and craig. i hung out with sarah and vickie and glenn and shane and trevor and a few others until i drank again. we were so clueless about how to relate to each other and to the world after that crazy place. i went to another rehab and let go of all ties to straight.
my name is elizabeth huey.
have you kept in contact with anyone?
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Hey Elizabeth,
I remember you....you were on staff when I graduated in Nov of 89. I often wondered about you and many other people and how you were doing. I am still real good friends with Aaron Cohen and get together often. I stayed in contact with Jessica Friday on and off for years, but she just never was able to stay off the shit. It finally caught up with her in April and killed her. Sad.I hope all is going well with you. Give me a shout if you wish, would love to chat.
Scott Davis
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Hey Elizabeth I remember you...I hope your doing well. If you want to contact me feel free....
[email protected]
Gina Yetter (Fenner)
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Yeah man, I was there. This is the first I'm able to communicate with anyone else since thats been there. Mark Glover is one of the bastards you're refering to. I watched this cat go from 4th phase to being a staff member, stayed at his house when he was still a client. He's the only guy I'd still really like to kick his ass. I was there from 89' to 90', 4 days short of a year. I think they stopped, yeah, they did, motivating only a few weeks before I got withdrawn. It was funny, the staff still encouraged motivation, but a little too much you got scolded. I never really got off 1st phase the whole time 'cause nobody believed my drug list. Hell, I smoked pot for 6 months prior to going in and drank even less. I was 16, in 10th grade and played in a band. Pretty freakin normal shit. I remember Glenn, he was an asshole. Always bragging about his fish tank. I had kinda looked up to the main head honcho though, can't remember his name, but the big black guy, big time administrator. Do you remember Jonothan Dupree? Mike, uh, christ, he copped out more than anyone. Andy white? Well, I'm Tom Marshall. They called me jumpin' man for a while cause I jumped out a 3 story window when I escaped. I think I was the only one in my time there never to get restrained. I think that pissed them off more than anything, cause I never advanced either, so they took me on bomb squads. Everything toned down around the time motivation stopped. Lots of cases of infetigo. Well hell, Later bro...
Tom[ This Message was edited by: Slifer on 2004-07-31 18:38 ]
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hey what's up backlick rd. peoples.
I believe I remember all of you with
some haze that I came to know with that
shit from the hardee's across the street.
I'm matt from va beach.Wher'nt you (Heuy)
involved in getting kyle & spenc in ?
what ever , It's all water what's up yall?
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Matt from Va. Beach? I am sure I know you as I was in with all these people.
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Its amazing how as you go along on these boards memories keep popping up...Not sure if its good or bad....
G
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hey matt,
not sure which matt this is??
please don't place blame on me for the imprisonment of anyone. i barely knew kyle and spencer before rehab. my brainwashed parents ran in the same social circle with their parents. maybe some whack staff member asked if i went to a party with them. ? can't rember. Haze is a good word for that time.
I'm sure they my parental units did there part in coercing their parents into the straight institution just like other parents shared with my mom and dad the "glorious benefits" of locking your over-emontional, dramatically intuitive, rebellious kids up.
anyway backlick buddy who specifically are you?
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that was me, Elizabeth. forgot to log in.
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Shane unc knows exactly when we went, for I don't
but do not worry.I harbor no ill's for anyone
save thorpe for marrying my ex after we broke up.(ha ha )could care less about that too hope there
doing as well as most people are.
Any ways I am Native Indian and was thrust in
to the str8niss when I was 15.Later to work
in the field as some one with actual schooling.
Brain washing had taken me down a road were I
enjoyed helping people and not in negitive way
as we were taught to.
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Hi Matt,
I think I remember you. Is Shane unc an ex-staffer and native indian too? We were very good friends and I would love to know how he is doing.
That's great you're helping people. Congratulations.
I majored in Psychology in undergrad but was too scared my scarred history might affect how I related to people. It's been better for me to make art.
Soon, I may start making art with homeless and abused children. Hoping this will be therapeutic for them and me.
Elizabeth[ This Message was edited by: future.air on 2004-08-17 05:23 ]
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Hi Future,
I think the person you are thinking of is Shane Wel. and the last I heard he got married and lives in California. If I am wrong , I apologize in advance.
Scott
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That's exactly who I'm thinking about. Do you know where in Cali?
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I wish I did know as I would like to know how he is and talk to him a bit. I hope he is well.
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I felt Shane really cared about people. I would like to catch up with him. He helped me alot after I got out.
Did you ever talk to Glenn or know more specifically what happened and why he did it? You can email me if that's better.[ This Message was edited by: future.air on 2004-08-18 21:09 ]
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I felt the same way about Shane even when I was on my phases with him and when he was on staff. He was just different and it showed even back then.
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Check your private messages Future
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Shane is someone I have been searching for as well. I have tried to search for him online to no avail...do you guys know if he is
..lch or ..lsh ?
I was also looking for Jim W. who I think married Shelley S. can't find them either.
The de-programming I spoke of earlier was a long process of therapy and going to meetings. I finally made some close friends who listened to me talk on and on about my feelings and my "doubts". As I mentioned earlier I married someone from straight and something comes up EVERYDAY... whether its telling the dogs to face forward or singing some stupid song like One tin soldier or making fun of ourselves and saying that we are "awfulizing". Straight made an indellible mark on my psyche, my experience there altered the course of my life in many significant ways. I am fortunate to not have had as terrifying and demoralizing an experience as those I read about on here. It took years for me to stabilize emotionally.
After I got stable I went back to school. Now I am a social worker. I am currently working as a substance abuse counselor for the department of juvenile justice in Florida. My focus is not on diagnosing juveniles as addicts or pressuring them to pursue "recovery", these kids are referred to me and then I ask them if they want services. They are free to decline. When they do accept, my primary focus is ensuring that they have a positive "helping experience" so that when and if they need help in the future, they are more likely to seek it out. Some kids are in real trouble with drugs and I share with them what I know about substance abuse and recovery. Some are just being kids and experimenting, however they are in real legal trouble and meeting with me gives them the chance to talk about the anxiety associated with being in "the system". The way straight contributes to my work is by reminding me of how NOT to affect a childs life. I intervene with compassion and open mindedness and not unilateral disrespect and persecution.
E, I encourage you to do that work with kids, its a very real way to make a contribution to our society (and its fun too!)
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Elizabeth or anyone for that matter that knows how to get in touch with trevor please e mail me
steve knepper
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hey i'm not sure how to check private messages?
and I'm not sure how to get in touch with Trevor. last name mullican (i think) and his family was in woodbridge. maybe you could try calling them?
also craig stevens might know. his family lived in reston, virginia.
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You can check your private messages by going over to the left hand side of forum page and clicking on "private messages"
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Anyone at this wharehouse during that time period? I was 16/17 then with blonde hair and blue eyes. My name is Ken. They stopped the motivating arm flapping bullshit soon after I got there.
Ken, my name is Mindi M. and I was in Straight-Springfield from March 1990 - June 1991. I'm sorry but I don't remember you or very many of the guys for that matter, but we were in there at the same time. I do remember some of the people you mentioned...
Staff member Craig S. married a client, Angie F., in the mid-1990's... I got a wedding invite but didn't go. I have no clue where they are now or even if they are still together. I would not mind reconnecting with either of these people.
According to the Annandale AA rumor mill circa the time I left, staff member Mark G. got kicked off staff because he was seeing a client, Kathy V., while she was still on her phases. I have no way of verifying this information, nor do I know or care where either of these people are now.
I was "on my phases" with client Heather M., who was from Pennsylvania and had brown hair and a sister in the program. I have gotten this Heather confused with a different Heather, Heather R., who has posted on here. The latter Heather, who had blonde hair, probably wondered what the hell the e-mail I sent her was about... LOL, oh well. I'd like to reconnect with Heather M.
I was also "on my phases" with Danny R. and was an oldcomer at his parents' host home in Mt. Airy, MD, among other places. I found it extremely ironic that I got assigned there because his misguided but well-meaning father and domineering foreign mother were very similar to my own. I'd love to reconnect with Danny and his family.
Elizabeth H., I remember you. I got yelled at in group for brown-nosing to you because I used to send you little letters up the COC. Ha! Ha! I was bored as f!ck in that place; why not send letters? I sent them to you because you were one of the few people in that place who seemed to be based in reality. I hope you are well.
Sophie/Kecia, I remember you too and hope you are well.
Scott D., I remember you from here. Good to see you're still out there somwehere...
Shane Welsh married Julie Hodges and they moved to California. She sent me a note, c/o my probation officer, telling me this some 12 years ago, while I was either in group home or foster home after leaving Straight (long story)... I have not heard from either since but I would like to.
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Well-behaved women rarely make history.[ This Message was edited by: Cleopatra2U on 2004-11-10 16:42 ]
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On 2004-07-29 16:17:00, Scott D wrote:
"Hey Elizabeth,
I remember you....you were on staff when I graduated in Nov of 89. I often wondered about you and many other people and how you were doing. I am still real good friends with Aaron Cohen and get together often. I stayed in contact with Jessica Friday on and off for years, but she just never was able to stay off the shit. It finally caught up with her in April and killed her. Sad.I hope all is going well with you. Give me a shout if you wish, would love to chat.
Scott Davis"
Scott,
Funny you mentioned Aaron. I have popped in here a few times looking for something... what I'm not sure. I was a short timer... maybe four of five long months. I had never used drugs and had sipped a beer at a neighbors house once. At some point I think I extended my drinking experience to me getting drunk.. maybe not; it has been a long time ago. At some point I was accepted as a "dry druggie" by staff I guess. I say this because staff stopped someone from blasting me when I got T&R or something during a rap... as I said it has been a while. I also made 1st phase which was my plan to freedom.
During my stay there, if I felt I had a friend in some weird way, Aaron was one of them. At some point he told me that he actually believed me, which meant alot to me. I was pretty young at the time, like 13 or 14. I kind of buried alot of Straight, but I always thought kindly of Aaron and Andy, who was a tall red head. On a few occassions they defended me, which I appreciated. Ask Aaron if remembers some kid named David who did not have a drug problem.