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cnn/robert downey jr.drug war protest
  I did not see the protest,but as long as it was peaceful I would have been in support. The drug war is a disaster.By outlawing drugs we have created a lucrative black market that has spawned corruption all over the world. We have surrendered precious civil liberties and have made snooping a national obsession.


  Robert Downey Jr is a sick man. In his last episode he was found in a hotel room alone with a large supply of cocaine.That's pathetic,but not criminal.Downey did not harm any other person. In the same manner, I was outraged to see Daryl Strawberry brought before the court in handcuffs on a possesion of drugs charge.You would have thought he was an ally of Timothy McVeigh the way he was manacled.


  I am not in favor of the "recreational" use of drugs,but I think that war against their use is doomed to failure.Who would be most harmed by the decriminalization of drugs? Would it not be the drug cartels who bring misery and drive-by shootings to our land? Let's put them out of business.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / i feel _____ about ______ because...
« on: July 01, 2001, 05:42:31 PM »
the 3 b's
  I guess I have a different perspective. Of course I am glad that the Braves won yesterday,but Red Sox fans should not be disheartened.The team is just a game and a half behind the Yankees, and it is playing quite well despite injuries to Pedro,Nomar, Everett, Varitek and Garces. Four of that five are all-stars.Have faith, all of the injured players will return for the home stretch. The Braves were fortunate to get the Sox when they were undermanned. I hope that you feel good for Tom Glavine, who pitched so well in front of his home-town fans.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / WInston Churchill on "Sobriety"
« on: July 01, 2001, 06:29:52 PM »
Re:Parents
  Well, it's not pleasant to read the messages of this thread. I have been trying to come to grips with my decision to put my son in Straight in 1987,and what was worse, to keep him there for twenty months.

  As a young person I had often wondered how the German people could have followed Hitler,or how Castro was able to stay in power.Recent reflection on my own decisions in the late 80's have given me some insight.

  When either an individual or a nation is faced with a choice between order and chaos, the pick will be order,almost every time.Germany in the 20's was faced with unbelievable inflation,where a person's life savings would no longer buy a pair of shoes. Social breakdown was endemic and the society and culture seemed about to collapse. Into the breach stepped a man who promised a return to prosperity, an end to strife and a return to greatness for the nation.The price? The people would have to stop thinking for themselves and surrender their wills to him.

  The thousands of American parents who have turned their children over to harmful treatment programs give evidence that what happened in Germany when people suspended their own judgment in favor of "The Program" would probably happen here given a similar sense of desperation. It is a great tragedy whenever an indivdual forfeits his autonomy. I should have had the stones to get my boy out of harm's way. Never again. Never.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / WInston Churchill on "Sobriety"
« on: July 01, 2001, 06:01:31 AM »
Re:Parents
  Well, it's not pleasant to read the messages of this thread. I have been trying to come to grips with my decision to put my son in Straight in 1987,and what was worse, to keep him there for twenty months.

  As a young person I had often wondered how the German people could have followed Hitler,or how Castro was able to stay in power.Recent reflection on my own decisions in the late 80's have given me some insight.

  When either an individual or a nation is faced with a choice between order and chaos, the pick will be order,almost every time.Germany in the 20's was faced with unbelievable inflation,where a person's life savings would no longer buy a pair of shoes. Social breakdown was endemic and the society and culture seemed about to collapse. Into the breach stepped a man who promised a return to prosperity, an end to strife and a return to greatness for the nation.The price? The people would have to stop thinking for themselves and surrender their wills to him.

  The thousands of American parents who have turned their children over to harmful treatment programs give evidence that what happened in Germany when people suspended their own judgment in favor of "The Program" would probably happen here given a similar sense of desperation. It is a great tragedy whenever an indivdual forfeits his autonomy. I should have had the stones to get my boy out of harm's way. Never again. Never.


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Death at Tranquility Bay
  The snatching of this girl from her home repeats the way Straight got its clients. It is a horrible tale, rendered all the more horrible by the assertion of Mr.Kay that he was"certain" that her death was not a suicide,and that the girl was merely trying to manipulate her parents into getting them to withdraw her from the program. An intentional jump from a thirty-five foot balcony looks like suicide to me,but I don't possess the omniscience of Mr. Kay.


   How on Earth were these people able to take this girl,presumably an American, out of the country against her will? How could the authorities in Jamaica allow such a progam to exist in their nation? We must get to the bottom of this story.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / i'm still here
« on: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM »
i'm still here
   Droogs? Malchicks? Have you been hanging out with some Russians lately? I saw A Clockwork Orange some years ago, and found it violent and incomprehensible. But then I was never a client in Straight.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Escapes-Smuggled messages
« on: June 01, 2001, 04:53:05 PM »
Escapes-Smuggled messages
  Dear FaceKhan, I would strongly advise against the use of force. You have mentioned freeing your friend in a "relatively" non-violent way,perhaps by holding the staff at bay. How would you do that?with a gun or a knife or a club? Please realize that if you brandish a weapon at someone you are guilty of assault,which could land you behind bars.And if you were arrested you could end up creating public sympathy for the staff.


  The way to defeat these people is through proceedings in court and before the various state agencies charged with the protection of minors. I know that this is not always easy, and that in some states programs such as Straight have sympathizers in high places. But we must have faith that as we continue to shed the light on brutality, the citizenry will demand an end to it.We must approach the forums with clean hands.


  I realize that what I say is cold comfort to one who sees a friend in agony.But I would strongly urge you to stay on the right side of the law.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight, Boston.
« on: June 01, 2001, 01:50:43 PM »
Straight,Boston
  Well, I drove to Evans Drive about a year ago. The property that had housed Straight was abandoned and weed-choked.I found myself wondering what had happened to the many other parents I had known there.Of course, the program did everything it could to make sure that there was no communication between the parents whose children were still in Straight and those who had "copped out".Because I was so rebellious as to allow my son to leave the program before "graduation" and live in my own place, I was shunned by the Straight community.

  I can't say that I would like to meet any staff,but it would be nice to hear from some of the parents I knew. I wonder if the intervening years have rendered them disillusioned with the brutalities of Straight,as is the case with me.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Strip Searches
« on: July 01, 2001, 04:50:49 PM »
RE: Pathway Family Centers
Excellent point.Let us hope that the Bush Administration,which seems keen on faith-based initiatives, will look unfavorably at programs that cut off clients' access to clergy.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hi All, guess this may be the right place?
« on: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM »
Hi All,guess this may be the right place?
Communist nations are intolerant of alternative lifestyles. Just listen to any gays or lesbians who have managed to escape Cuba.The government there believes that homosexuality is a pathological condition caused by the free market system. While programs such as Straight are justifiably called "fascist", we should be aware that the mind-numbing self-criticism exercises that Communist party members must endure are quite like what I and thousands of other parents mistakenly consigned our kids to in Straight. A pox on every form of totalitarianism.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / A Cumbersome Board
« on: June 01, 2001, 01:30:43 PM »
A Cumbersome Board
  Kathy, thanks for your help. I am still learning the ways of the computer.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / A Cumbersome Board
« on: June 01, 2001, 01:23:23 PM »
A Cumbersome Board
  Perhaps I am a bit cranky, but I find this board more difficult to use than Coolboard.The biggest problem is that to get to the most recent postings one must click on to "previous", which means occurring BEFORE another event.Is it me, or does anyone else feel troubled by this seeming lack of logic?


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / A funny dream I had last night...
« on: September 01, 2001, 04:35:56 PM »
A Funny Dream
  I have had dreams in the last two weeks as well .Mine do not leave me chuckling. I see the inhuman eyes of Mohammed Atta and the thousands of people running for their lives. I wake in a cold sweat.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The Jamaica Observer
« on: September 01, 2001, 04:27:47 PM »
  Hopeful Sign
  Although these three postings in the Jamaica Observer are too few in number to suggest a trend, it is good to see that some people are looking at places like Tranquility Bay with a jaundiced eye.


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Five more clippings on Tranquility Bay
  Good work,Ken.Much thanks for digging these up for us. As a parent who was faced with the same circumstances as the woman from Elk Grove I can certainly empathize with her. But she is doing what I did- turning her child over to an all-knowing, all-curative program which in reality does nothing more than to deprive her child of the liberties that even Charles Manson enjoys.









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