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Thank you,

It is always nice to hear that you were understood.

Peace

Works for me. And since fuctard and newton are dumb, unimployable delusional fanatics we can put them to work cleaning up the roaches.

They can be paid by the extra cash we send to Medicaid.

Well, when they fired me for treating the kids with respect, after they demanded I "buy in" to the abuse they perpatrated on kids, which I witnessed and fought daily, I don't feel sorry except for some of the teachers, the computer guys, the kitchen ladies and the maintence workers. OK, FUCK! I do feel sorry for some of the staff and management, but very few.

This morning, I read about CEDU closing in the Spokesman Review Newspaper. YES, this is a dream come true. But, let's not forget that there are still people like "Dr Fucktard" out there and a few parents who are stupid enough to trust him.

Will you all join me in taking the remainder of these hell holes down one-by-one. CEDU was the big dog. If he could be killed then the others can too. And.  :tup:  thank you Ginger, SOS, Blown away, and the countless others who helped bring this about by exposing the "hidden facts." But, folks, it is not over, don't forget that many of those demented staff members will run out and pool their resourses to get other schools started.

Like CEDU, they will try to get rich on the backs of scared and desperate parents who trust them and believe their lies.  

And, you parents', there is a better solution. Build ultra strong relationships with your kids, so they love, care for, and trust you. It was no great deed for me to do that as a BCA therapist, and many of the kids still contact me, and I am still their father and friend. They, many of them are still going through hard times, but they are working on themselves.

Be gentle with yourselves and your kids. You are both wrong and both right. Please know and remember, "relationship is everything." The few respected and loved staff at CEDU knew this, and kids did change because they cared about their mentors - therapists, or staff and finally for themselves. That was the only "magic" CEDU ever held. CEDU died because staff forgot that very lesson about rock solid relationships.

It does not take therapy, It does not take a program, and it does not take a staff member to help a kid - just a good relationship with a father, mother, brother, sister, uncle, or, friends. All that the successful staff and therapists ever did at CEDU was build a bond and ask the kid, out of respect for that bond, to care about himself and the relationship. So, parents, It is a big investment, and it will take time, and they might not quit pot or sex. But you can still love them and teach them care for others, skills, and responsibiliy, and let them learn the hard way - out there. Just be there for them. Sure they will abuse you, they will use you, but don't sell out your love. take "the path with a heart." They are growing, and growing is hard - respect that and be empathetic. Model patience, kindness, love, care for others, and for life in your own behavior - they will catch on after many long hard years. I did when I was a kid. Have faith in your kid and yourself.
Hint my name is not Roy, but "what we do in life echoes in eternity."

Programs never worked. It was the relationships that worked.
Peace

What decade are you stuck in. Let me guess, the "Refer Madness 1950s.

I don't smoke the stuff myself, but I did way back when, and there is nothing but money to be made by calling it an addiction. It is not dangerous or addictive to any significant degree

You and fuckterd only want one thing $$$$$$$$$ not social change. You would hate if people were free of pot and drugs. What would you rant about? What would you do for an identity? You look in the mirror and you see nothing, so you go on a crusade. Well, jack off your dog, that
would be more useful.

Alcohol and tobacco are way worse than pot. It isn't even on the radar anymore in most states.

Try to get your corporate buddies and congressmen to call alcohol a problem and make it illegal you pathetic fanatic. You probably own stock in Phillip Morris and Jim Beam - you deluded hippocrite.

Fucktard. You can't be real. You have to be troll bait. Nobody could be such an asshole and so dumb unless they were fake.

This is "Troll Bait." It was a good idea for whomever thought it up, but it is time to ignore this guy and talk about real stuff. Things like ideas, values, friends, compassion and tyranny. This jerk doesn't bother me, but he is a diversion from any reasonable purpose.

How could you be a BCA student and not feel some empathy for these people? (excepting Marc T) Were they not in the same situation as you. Were all BCA students not subject to tyranny and in need of some love acceptance or just understanding from you.

Frankly, any thinking and rational human being would not believe himself so superior as to judge and crucify people who are different - and do it publically.

Let's get to the facts. You are different too, and you haven't yet admitted this to yourself, so you go around bullying people you believe are weak or faulted in some way. Clearly, you nevertheless, in your unconsious self perception, see these people as better than you and resent them instead of yourself.

Take a good long look at how you look in the mirror of your soul. What you speak is without soul, without heart, and without compassion. Is this your vision of the ideal person?

These people were unique human beings with many strengths and many faults - just like you.

I can understand why straight is regarded as a crazy, sadistic, cult.

I am a real clinician. I don't have a degree from a correspondence diploma mill. I have a real one. And, I can assure you that these two fellows are nothing more than severely mentally ill people.

If they had any credubility at all, they would not be in a worthless pissing match acting like early junior high school students from alcoholic families.

If anyone takes straight or these sick, twisted, morons seriously. And, I mean anyone at all. They need help. These fellows are clearly not educated, not trained, not experienced, and they are lacking in reasoning ability and lacking even in the ability to think.

I wouldn't take this dialouge (if you could call it dialouge - and you can't) any further. I would not waste my time on them, except to allow them the time and space to continue to advertize what these programs are, and the kind of people who run them.

"Doctor Fuctard" is clearly an appropriate name for ths fellow (excepting the doctor part). And, fig "Newton" for a brain, like fucktard, clearly belongs in a state mental health facility.

I am fine with a nasty, dark, crazy, sick, put down from these nuts that I will get, because what they have said already proves that they are simply poor, sick, injured animals in dire need of medical (psychiatric) treatment. Mean words and yelps are, of course, exactly what I would expect from them (including bites) in trying to help them. Therefore, none of you should be bothered by their comments except to feel a bit sorry for the pain they are in. [ This Message was edited by: Roy on 2005-03-17 16:30 ]

StrugglingTeens.com is owned by the ex CEDU enrollment person who was paid on comission, Lon Woodberry. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

When a Cedu escort drugged and raped a girl, his wife Denise Woodberry $$$$$$ was the Boundary County Prosecuting Attorney. Though the rapist, Armstrong, was clearly guilty. He was not prosecuted by Woodberry, Can you guess why? $$$

I think it was because Denise's husband was making a lot of money $$$$$ at CEDU, and prosecuting a CEDU escort for rape would lose the school enrollments and thus lose her husband Lon Woodberry money. $$$$$$$

These so called educational consultants are mostly ex cedu program staff. They know little about kids or education. They know a lot about money.

What are the qualifications to be an educational consultant and make referrals for cash to abusive boarding schools? A high school diploma and some experience yelling at kids in rap sessions will do.  

Thanks Ginger for starting this topic.