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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 01, 2006, 11:44:00 PM
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No they are not equipped, but they will take them anyways, so long as the parent pays.
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On 2006-04-01 20:51:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"You really can't be serious! That would put the healthy and saftey of the residents and staff at risk.
No one would in their right minds would do something like that!
It will be generally found that those who sneer habitually at human nature and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant examples
--Charles Dickens
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I'm not even gonna touch that one.... :lol:
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They kept Celece Docterman, who filed a lawsuit. She was very mentally ill and was treated inhumanely, hence the justification for the lawsuit.
They have also taken kids who are bipolar (aka manic depressive), and the low-wage staff who supervise them daily have no training or understanding of what a manic state is, how to work with someone who is depressed, what to look for in someone having a psychotic break/nervous breakdown, etc. They take many kids who are being treated by psychologists and psychiatrists, and then place them in oversees programs with no therapists or counseling of any sort. Usually, a psychiatrist drops in every few months to prescribe meds to the ones who haven't yet started to conform. Again, the low wage staff are not trained or educated at all on how to work with kids with mental illness. They are only trained to give out consequences for infractions of WWASP rules.
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Just curious as to how you think anyone can produce "evidence" that WWASPS would admit a psychotic child. I can't produce evidence that you're a douche either, but all the circumstances of your posts point to that conclusion.
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On 2006-04-02 01:09:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"Let's see some data to support this claim. I mean if a kid was so psychotic that he was not controllable by conventional means surely they would not think twice about sending him elsewhere right?Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1500 years.
--John Adams, U.S. President
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Yeah, like High Impact. While that was shut down, they just used pepper spray and dog cages. These people believe what they're saying when they say they have the only method for taming the wild troubled teen monster.
A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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Three Springs,
If only WWASP did care enough about the welfare of a child as well the welfare of the children they expose these very disturbed kids to.
zI attebnded Discovery seminar with parents who adopted son had bee at Paradise Cove for years. He wa sbeeing trafficked to SCL Montana when Paradise closed due to pending invstigation by U.S. state Dept.
The parents shared their son was very disturbed. His behavior was over the top to say the least.
My child was in work sheets with this disturbed kid. I can assure you It was never my intent to have my child exposed to such an unhealthy child. He should have been in a proper facility to meet his needs. My child too. I was led to believe he was. I could go on and on. The staff lied as usual.
A major diservcice wwasp does is hold our kids hostage in institutions not having their needs met.
Otherwise they could have been receiving proper care.
Three Springs its important that you step left and believe the truth about your precious program.
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Not only are they willing to take this imaginary psycho kid, they somehow decide that Jamaica's Tranquility Bay is the most appropriate placement? Wow.... just... wow.
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That they would enroll this boy in TB is no surprise. This is the kind of kid who would spend all day every day in OP - with frequent restraints and starvation being the daily routine.
TSW - hang on to all those emails. We might find them useful someday. Never know when wwasp will claim one of theirs, is not one of theirs. Interesting to me they are still selling Ivy Ridge for example.
Keep all that in a safe place - print out and keep a hard copy as well. You can expect to have your computer attacked - you might find it crashing or in need of a erasing to clean it of infection - so put anything you have of importance on an unrelated hard drive, or CD or something.
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3 Springs: What's sad, as well as amazing. There are kids just like "this one" that are enrolled, and probably at TB right now.
That is scary!
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I think you people are just wrong for attacking poor old Jay this way.
He is quite the cunning linguist you know![ This Message was edited by: Cheryl_Dah_Queen_of_Mean on 2006-04-03 08:31 ]
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On 2006-04-03 08:30:00, Cheryl_Dah_Queen_of_Mean wrote:
"I think you people are just wrong for attacking poor old Jay this way.
He is quite the cunning linguist you know![ This Message was edited by: Cheryl_Dah_Queen_of_Mean on 2006-04-03 08:31 ]"
You're fricken kidding me right?!!
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so what would their response be if you had described the "child" as one who...(as the "desperate parent" might allude to)
spends an inordinate amount of time in his room at his computer. He says that he is "writing programs" but as a parent that is not computer savvy...who knows what he has been doing.
said childs grades have slipped from a solid 4.0 GPA (straight A's) to a 3.7 GPA (an A- average)
said child is possibly involved with drugs.
said child claims to have only used marijuana once but didn't like it.
drug tests turn up clean...nothing in blood stream...but still...the parent is suspicious.
I think you know what I am getting at...basically...instead of posing as a parent with an extremely out of control child, pose as an extremely "paranoid/suspicious/over protective/over demanding" parent of a child that most of society would see as a "normal, good kid"
what kind of suggestions do you think that WWASPS would then offer. Would they tell the parents that they see no reason for the child to be there? Or would they suggest the same programs?
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On 2006-04-03 19:54:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"Why would it matter what WWASP suggested? Their suggestions are not important to me, and nor should they be important to any others in any way shape or form. No child for any reason deserves any time at one of their pathetic gulags.
actually my post was "tongue-in-cheek"...I found it amusing that when you described your "fictional child" that they were *more than willing to work with you.
I was just wondering what their reply might have been had the child really just been the product of blatantly unreasonable parents.
who knows...they probably think that a straight A student with no drug/relationship/etc. problems could benefit from TB...maybe even to the extent that he turns out to be a Nobel Prize Winner :rofl:
see what I'm getting at?
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Ages SEVEN to TWENTY-ONE?
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Where's my fully automatic shotgun?
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I can't believe that they did not figure out that this was a gag post! How retarded are they!!
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WOW.
You PUNKED WWASPS from Korea and then plastered this on fornits, and they'll definitely see this. :rofl: :lol:
I can't wait to see where this goes.
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How original - "I've been where you are."
Right. So because you are the parent of a troubled kid, I should trust you with making decisions about mine? I don't think so.
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They wear it like a badge of honor, completely oblivious to normal people they are just saying they are bad parents. Programmies, everyone is laughing at you.
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Exactly, they admit that they were unable to control their own child, or deter them from "wrong choices", yet they expect other parents to think they know how to handle another person's child.
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WWASP responds:
XXXX XXXXX wrote:
Do you have a psych evaluation that you can fax to me-? I need ot
see if thej schools can wotk with him-? Thorazine is not a drug
tha we can work with - I need ot have a psych eval so that my
directors can see this,
THe only option I am thinking even possible now IS Tranquility Bay-
but he may be nore than they can handle as well.
our fax is XXX XXX XXXX
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
--H. L. Mencken, American publisher
God, this is so pathetic I don't even know what to say. This thread is so crazy it needs to be bumped up again for parents and people to read. I was the second poster in this thread as guest who said of course they would. I said it with such certainty because I was transfered to a wwasps program straight from a psychiatric hospital after being diagnosed with pretty much the same thing Samuel Johnson has, and a lot fo the same behaaviors and such. WWASPS view of how to handle mental illness is to lock you up in isolation until you crack. Because in WWASPS twisted reality, there is no mental illness, any kid is faking and manipulating in an attempt to be sent to a psych hospital. Thats why they didnt send Karlye to a psych hospital when they knew she was suicidal. There were kids losing it under the stress doing weird shit every now and then and they still wouldnt get sent away. stuff that would get any of us locked up in the crazy house in ten seconds flat!
I encourage you to post your story up on the experiences thread.
What a fucking shit hole. :flame: