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General Interest => Feed Your Head => Topic started by: Xelebes on February 18, 2012, 12:25:56 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1Msg551X0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1Msg551X0)
The problem is getting worse (some cities have 20-40% of the homeless child population comprised of GLBT children) in the US. But the media is picking up on it. Let's see where this goes.
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What the hell is a transexual child?
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There are transexual children out there. Some have started the process as early as 4 years old.
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No doctor in the world would perform gender reorientation on a little kid. besides gender reorientation starts around 1,000,000 dollars. There's something fundamentally wrong with just the idea of that.
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The typical age the process starts is above 18, but there are a few children who have that opportunity. There is also the children who don't begin the process but already identify as the opposite gender.
You also have to remember that transexual operations can happen - or used to happen - when the obstetrician screws on on the circumcision or that the child is found to have both genitalia. However, procedures with consent happen as early as four or six and the end results are much better than if they started later. That is, they look more like the gender they transisted to due to not having gone through puberty.
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No doctor in the world would perform gender reorientation on a little kid. besides gender reorientation starts around 1,000,000 dollars. There's something fundamentally wrong with just the idea of that.
Actually, gender reassignment of babies and young children used to occur, and perhaps still does occur, far more frequently than you might think. In cases of intersex patients with "ambiguous genitalia," the child was sometimes surgically "adjusted," and sometimes even reassigned to be (what the obstetrician or surgeon considered to be) the "more appropriate" gender. See also: history of intersex surgury (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_intersex_surgery) (Wikipedia).
In the 1960s, John Money, a pediatric psychologist in the "Psychohormonal Research Unit" at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, was making a name for himself claiming that gender identity was primarily developed as a result of social learning in the child's environment, and that said gender identity could also be changed.
Dr. Money was perhaps ultimately most famous, or infamous, for the horribly tragic case of Bruce Reimer, reassigned to be Brenda Reimer by Dr. Money, due to a circumcision that had ended up being an essentially complete cauterization of the organ in question.
The Reimer case was of especial interest to Dr. Money, no doubt, due to the fact that Bruce had a twin brother. From a Wikipedia article on the case:
For several years, Money reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case", describing apparently successful female gender development, and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction even in non-intersex cases. Money wrote: "The child's behavior is so clearly that of an active little girl and so different from the boyish ways of her twin brother."
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"Brenda" Reimer, however, never fully adjusted nor identified with her gender assignment, a fact which John Money concealed from the scientific and medical communities and perhaps even from himself. This, despite the fact that (or perhaps even because of the fact that) ... the alleged success of his theories was having some impact on actual medical practice.
Eventually, this lack of adjustment resulted in such a degree of suicidal depression during the teenage years that young Brenda was finally informed of the actual circumstances of her anatomy by her parents. Brenda subsequently opted to become David Reimer (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer), and attempted to both surgically and hormonally undo and reverse the years of "progress" in the other direction.
Needless to say, when someone has been subjected to as much medical and psyche intervention, co-option, and coercion as this poor guy was, this story did not end well.
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Those are extreme cases. I know about the twins and the botched circumcision. But were talking about the mutilation of genetalia on kids who arent even old enough to have sex yet. For recreational purposes? Think about it your 14 years old male,and you're not legally allowed anywhere near a vagina, But a doctor will make you your very own? I'm sorry I'm as liberal as the next guy but that just don't sound right to me.
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You would get more utility using a doubling strap-on.
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X, who are you responding to? Me or the troll?
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The troll. (I know I was talking to the troll.)
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Why do ligitimate post go unnoticed and unresponded to, while flame wars and bullshit garner all the attention here?
Nobody here but trolls talking to each other.
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Because your post was a fairly stated opinion and did not warrant a response?
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Your absolutely right if there was any leadership here you'd be the one of the first ones banned.
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Come on folks,imagine a doctor informs you that your troubled teenage son is really a lesbian trapped in a male body. What good parents would think "well that makes sense". Poor people are not candidates for this procedure because no insurance company would ever pay for it. Think about it, TRANS-GENDERING CHILDREN IS ABUSE! Even in the legitimate cases, you can't cut off his weenie and tell him he's a girl. Nature won't allow it. Look at the results from the identical twin brothers, where one was given a botched circumcision and raised as a girl it no his teens. He knew he was never a girl. It's creepy enough that unscrupulous doctors get filthy rich doing this to adults, BUT TO MUTILATE CHILDREN???!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GhbVFjIaN0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GhbVFjIaN0)
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Because your post was a fairly stated opinion and did not warrant a response?
What the hell does that mean? Fairly stated opinions don't deserve a response? I suppose if I would've posted about transgendering your pets more people would've joined in. The trolls might have even dug up some gay pet porn.
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Because your post was a fairly stated opinion and did not warrant a response?
What the hell does that mean? Fairly stated opinions don't deserve a response? I suppose if I would've posted about transgendering your pets more people would've joined in. The trolls might have even dug up some gay pet porn.
Or I didn't feel like it needed to be engaged by myself. Which is probably what I should have said.
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But if you insist:
The entire sex change is a process that takes years. First the individual must realise that they are not with the right anatomy. This typically happens very early - usually before the age of two or three. The coming out process might be easy or it might be an agonising long time. There is benefits to do it early and there is benefits waiting until the age of 18. There is also costs. If one comes out early with parents not able to grasp what is being asked, the child will be up for a wide variety of abuses. If the parents accept, then that is a boon. If the parents are unable to grasp and you wait, you can avoid the worst of the abuse. However, one has to deal with living in the uncomfortable position for years and that might lead to abuse of self - self-destruction, suicide, etc.
If the hormones are given before the age of puberty, you can delay puberty until one has the resources to undergo the change. The benefit of this is that your bones don't change during puberty and once transitioned, you will have a more convincing body structure. Once undergoing the hormone therapies, you are considered to be in the transition.
I remember reading one case where a child had, with consent, undergone the surgery under the age of 10. He was happy with the situation, from the reports I've read. He had started taking the hormones at age four or five. This is very rare, however, and did not take place in the US but in Germany. So yeah. Just one successful case at such an early age.
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But if you insist:
The entire sex change is a process that takes years. First the individual must realise that they are not with the right anatomy. This typically happens very early - usually before the age of two or three. The coming out process might be easy or it might be an agonising long time. There is benefits to do it early and there is benefits waiting until the age of 18. There is also costs. If one comes out early with parents not able to grasp what is being asked, the child will be up for a wide variety of abuses. If the parents accept, then that is a boon. If the parents are unable to grasp and you wait, you can avoid the worst of the abuse. However, one has to deal with living in the uncomfortable position for years and that might lead to abuse of self - self-destruction, suicide, etc.
If the hormones are given before the age of puberty, you can delay puberty until one has the resources to undergo the change. The benefit of this is that your bones don't change during puberty and once transitioned, you will have a more convincing body structure. Once undergoing the hormone therapies, you are considered to be in the transition.
I remember reading one case where a child had, with consent, undergone the surgery under the age of 10. He was happy with the situation, from the reports I've read. He had started taking the hormones at age four or five. This is very rare, however, and did not take place in the US but in Germany. So yeah. Just one successful case at such an early age.
I'm sorry,but that's absolutely fucking sick.
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God. Is that legit? Couldn`t believe my ears
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God. Is that legit? Couldn`t believe my ears
Yes it is. I'm working on a new comedy skit about it.
it's hard working a good baby rape joke into sex change material, but I'm the king. I'll figure it out
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I'm agree with Xelebes.. It really a problem mainly for man. They are depressed for other behavior. they lost the last control of mind. Someone have the tendency. But it is too harmful.
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Uh-uh Things are getting complicated in US.