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To bring our stories into the public eye is to invite ridicule and scorn.  I think most of us here believe that to be worthwhile if it can prevent this from happening to more children.  Many of our fellow survivors may not think so, or they may have more to lose.  Or they might be dead, insane or in jail, which can be a self fulfilling prophecy after the program has convinced your parents that you are a lost cause (speaking from experience).  I only very recently got my shit together enough to have a computer and only then did I find this community of survivors.  Of course, I was a "cop-out", I ran as soon as they moved me to phase 2, after 5 months on phase 1.  I got all of the "breaking down" and none of the "building up".  I will never believe that that was healthy for anyone.  Motivating?  Beltlooping?  All those kids carving their arms?  Those goddamned songs?  Nope, we are not the crazy ones, even if it does sometimes seem that way.  Incidentally, I am not even one of those 50,000, I was in LIFE.

That sounds about right, there were alot of kids at Life from the Lakeland/Winterhaven area.  I think I even remember them talking about opening a program up there, not sure though, memory is fuzzy.

I think it is nice to see someone fighting back for a change, instead of just continuing to bend over and get screwed.  Wall Street made a killing off of the misfortune they brought onto all of us.  Nobody went to jail, bonuses were still collected.  Corporate profits soared.  Ajax is right, the financial elite started this fight and have mostly won it, at least for now.  BK, you must be one of the lucky ones who still has something to lose.  If they protest or demonstrate in my city, I'll be there.  Too bad I don't have a mortgage to not pay.

This girls parents have failed her, allowed her to be abused “emotionally, verbally, physically and sexually”.  What does her mother propose to rectify that failure?  Punishment for the abused girl.  Of course.  It almost sounds like her mother really just wishes that she was allowed to just kill her.  I spent over an hour yesterday perusing that forum, it was like being back in the program.  What a vile collection of self righteous hypocrites.  

“Hello, notoriously abusive residential treatment center?  I have a daughter who has been horribly abused and now I view her as broken.  No matter how much I punish her she absolutely refuses to pretend to be happy and problem-free.  Also, as her mother I should tell you that I think my daughter is a murderer who will probably try to kill you in your sleep.  She is also a master manipulator and con artist so you should not take anything she says seriously.  Keep her as long as you have to, I don’t want to have to be bothered with her problems at all.”

I found Whooter to be a useful tool, a stand-in for my mother as I formulated and rehearsed the conversation with her that was 25 years overdue.  He was also a shining example of the kind of people who work in and champion this industry; sadistic, self-righteous, cold-hearted opportunists who have nothing but contempt for the people they claim to want to "help".  On the other hand, he caused many people here a great deal of emotional distress and tarnished the credibility of everyone who posts here, ESPECIALLY with all that disgusting porn, which he consistently blamed on one of us.  Fuck him, good riddance.

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I CANNOT believe Kris Kennedy's "testimonial" is still up there! Her son, Patrick, went to HLA (not Ridge Creek School) and HE COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER HE LEFT!!! What kind of success story is that??

It seems that he did well at HLA, he graduated and went on to college after HLA and was involved in his community.

Actually it was not suicide he died a couple of years after he left HLA peacefully at home:

KENNEDY,, PATRICK WAYNE Passed away peacefully at his home on October 16, 2006. Patrick was born July 8, 1987 in Tulsa, Oklahoma and brought much joy and happiness to all who were blessed to know him. He is survived by his parents Michael and Kristi Kennedy and sisters Alex and Erin all of Dallas, Texas. Maternal grandparents are Bob and Marg McElroy of Comanche, Texas. He is also survived by his aunt, Mitzi Patin, precious cousins Jake and Luke, his nanny of 19 years Ester Rich, all of Dallas, Texas, and many other aunts, uncles and cousins from Dublin, Texas. He was predeceased by his paternal grandparents, Joe and Pat Kennedy of Dublin, Texas. Patrick loved life and always had a huge smile for those around him. He truly loved his family and friends to the fullest and was loved by the many people he touched in return. He was so kind to all and his compassion for those he met each day was unsurpassed. Patrick had a zest for life and a passion for music. When he sang, his voice produced such a celebration of life and today we rejoice that he is singing with the angels at the throne of God. Patrick was active in the Boy Scouts and a member of the Order of the Arrow. He was involved in choir and received several awards during high school. Patrick graduated from Hidden Lake Academy in Georgia and was attending Collin County Community College. He was a member of The Heights Baptist Church. Services will be held Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm at The Heights Baptist Church, Richardson, Texas. Graveside services and burial will be at the Gardens of Memories in Comanche, Texas at 1:00 pm on Friday, October 20, 2006.

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That obit was probably written by the same parents who sent him to HLA.  I couldn't help but notice that there is no cause of death mentioned at all.  No "heroic struggle against cancer or MS or whatever".  So what was the cause of death Whooter?  And where is the link to that obit?

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Then state it as your opinion instead of stating it as fact. "They tend to use drugs and alcohol more often to cope and have higher incidences of suicide and suicide attempts."  requires a citation to support the claim if you're gonna state it  like that.

Well, it isnt really my opinion.  Its based on reading I have done on the subject.

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You can't be a real person.  I mean, no one is this obtuse.  You've got to be some kind of super spambot.

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Whootbot!

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The list of companies who have given up on the United States as a viable place to successfully run their business’ both small, medium and large is mind numbing.


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Neither Obama or his current administration have a clue on how to create jobs in the private sector and equally important driving them out of the country.
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You can give birth at home in your bathtub instead of going to a hospital, it is much cheaper, but is it wiser?  For that matter, is it morally acceptable to profit from the lack of human rights in less developed nations?  Many companies have moved to China because the common people there are basically slaves who work for pennies an hour and have no rights.  We have taxes and regulation and permit procedures for a reason.  Maybe there would be more U.S. citizens with technical and engineering degrees if the government had the money to provide grants for them to people who otherwise could not afford college.  But of course the government does not have money to do much of anything because the super rich corporations DO NOT PAY TAXES.